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My parents met at a concert 'chuck was performing at.Saw it over 35 years ago. Btw, thank you for making me feel old!![]()
It's obvious that some on BGOL are not fully plugged into the "real" world or the corporate world that a tally makes the decisions.
Businesses ALWAYS adjust to the climate. When unions got too greedy what happened? Jobs were outsourced a d automated. When call centers became difficult to staff what happened? Jobs were outsourced and automated. Most McDonald's have eliminated most front counter ordering in favor of in lobby kiosk. Some eliminated all lobby service due to Covid and have no plans on reopening.
What the public doesn't see:
Some hospital specialties are being computer automated such as radiology.
Schools are importing teachers to combat shortage.
Asian countries are already implementing FULL service fast food vending machines using people only to refill the machines.
EVERY plant manufacturing sector has shrunk its work force and has increased automation and robot use.
Online ordering has increased by 33% since Covid which has negatively effected in person sales at most retailers. Go to Walmart and see only two cashiers.
Lastly, people incorrectly state that "$15/hr ain't ish!" Let's break it down. $15/hr is $31,200/ yr. If a couple both work these "low paying" will be a household earning $62,400/ yr. The median household income in the US is $67K. This is a 9% difference. If this couple earned $1.25 more they would be at the median. Or, just imagine if a person decided to work two jobs??
We have become a country of lazy and entitled underachievers who make poor financial decisions. Black folk are capable of so much more. We have to get back to the mentality of doing whatever it takes.
I don't really understand how what I said went over your heads. I'm talking about my son working while at home with me between now and going to college. I'm talking about him getting a job where he can learn how to take pride in his work, in his uniform, and learn how to deal with people.
He also needs to learn that the more he wants in life the more it will require from him. Higher paying jobs require self-investment or education and/or training and more often than not come with more responsibility.
So what I keep hearing you and others say is there should not be a pay difference between jobs that require nothing but you to show up and no experience no training and require no responsibility or accountability and those that do? What do you think compels most people to push themselves to get skills training or education? Not making enough money makes folks do more or settle for this is enough.
If a teacher wants to make more money they get their Master's, if they still want more they go get their Doctorate.
If an IT person wants to make more money they get more Certs or learn a new skill.
Do you think folks working in Plants and Mines choose those jobs because they love it? Not because they want more money to take care of their families. But too many people want the money but don't want to put forward any effort and I am not about relieving them of the consequences of those choices.
Man this shit is also fucking with white people pretty hard in New York they were showing a 4 bed room condo where 12 people lived and two of them live in a damn closet of the condo….that’s the bullshit I want to avoid. This is why I can never stay in New York nor LA because of the price of rent and housing.Nah nothing went over my head
And you certainly didn't specify that he'd be at home
You adding other stuff after the fact.
And there should be a difference between jobs and pay
You're not addressing the fact that everything is going up in prices but the wages for the jobs
So
Rent goes up
Food goes up
Everything goes up
Wages stay the same
Just do better?
Ok and in the mean time while you're trying to do better get on welfare correct?
Because that's what people will have to do to survive
But then it'll be they're leeching
Nah they're not
It may sound radical but the entire point of the government is to take care of its people.
Imagine that?
You're supposed to take care of us and give us a great quality of life
That's what they're tasked with doing
But they skated on it for so long that this boot straps shit is all we hear
Man this shit is also fucking with white people pretty hard in New York they were showing a 4 bed room condo where 12 people lived and two of them live in a damn closet of the condo….that’s the bullshit I want to avoid. This is why I can never stay in New York nor LA because of the price of rent and housing.
As much as I hate going back and forthNah nothing went over my head
And you certainly didn't specify that he'd be at home
You adding other stuff after the fact.
And there should be a difference between jobs and pay
You're not addressing the fact that everything is going up in prices but the wages for the jobs
So
Rent goes up
Food goes up
Everything goes up
Wages stay the same
Just do better?
Ok and in the mean time while you're trying to do better get on welfare correct?
Because that's what people will have to do to survive
But then it'll be they're leeching
Nah they're not
It may sound radical but the entire point of the government is to take care of its people.
Imagine that?
You're supposed to take care of us and give us a great quality of life
That's what they're tasked with doing
But they skated on it for so long that this boot straps shit is all we hear
But when my son, who is 13, goes and gets his first job to get some movie money or save up to take a girl out he doesn't need to make $50,000.
There’s also work smarter not harder.. thanks to advancement , options, and ability to search your son shouldn’t have to find some low paying job where he putting mad energy into getting crumbs.. he should find something that fits him and pays decent or use his capabilities and fig out how to generate money on his own.. time to throw away those ancient concepts and start using the brain more to better navigate this system ..especially a system that aims at giving out crumbs to workers while making even bigger cakes for big bizAs much as I hate going back and forth
You thought when I said save up some movie money or take a girl out meant "after graduation" and once he leaves the house? Once he leaves the house he needs to be saving to buy a house and for his future not movie and date money. I'm specifically talking about young kids and as I said introduction to the workforce.
When I worked at Shoney's at 14 and made $3.15 an hour I knew I couldn't survive on that or when I worked at a cardboard place for $5 when I was 17 I knew I couldn't have the lifestyle I wanted making that kind of money and did something about it.
One of my favorite quotes is " Don't wish it was easier wish you were better!"
Man, folks don't understand the game. Yes, people should strive to do better, but at the same fucking time realize the game is fucking rigged. Purchasing power has been going down the drain for decades. Saving account interest was about 10 percent in the boomer heyday of the 80s. Now Chase will give you .05 percent. But hey, just 'do better"But just figure it out is what people here are saying
Work hard yes
Have growth yes
How can you do either if you can't even survive through no fault of your own?
I have respectfully disagree with you on this. If we are going to have this conversation we have to continue to compare apples to apples.Yeah $15 an hour aint shit these days when the (((average))) rent is about $1100 a month.
shorty say working at Amazon ain't for her... wonder what she doin next?
I never said 15 an hour is an average job. I said 15 dollars an hour aint shit considering the average rent is $1100 a month.I have respectfully disagree with you on this. If we are going to have this conversation we have to continue to compare apples to apples.
A $15/hr job is not an average job. It's a low paying job. The median salary in 2021 is $51K. Which is more than enough to pay for what you provided, an average cost of rent of $1100.
The problem is, people want to live an "average" lifestyle, but don't earn average money. Your lifestyle is dictated by your earnings. There will always "poor" people. There will always be a workforce. Unless you own the company, businesses will pay CEOs whatever they want, particularly if they are increasing profits.
The sad thing is, all the people complaining about $15/ hr are 100% capable of improving their situations.
The roadblock is themselves. Are they willing to do what is needed and necessary to improve their lives?
As much as I hate going back and forth
You thought when I said save up some movie money or take a girl out meant "after graduation" and once he leaves the house? Once he leaves the house he needs to be saving to buy a house and for his future not movie and date money. I'm specifically talking about young kids and as I said introduction to the workforce.
When I worked at Shoney's at 14 and made $3.15 an hour I knew I couldn't survive on that or when I worked at a cardboard place for $5 when I was 17 I knew I couldn't have the lifestyle I wanted making that kind of money and did something about it.
One of my favorite quotes is " Don't wish it was easier wish you were better!"
What people fail to understand is that the Micky D jobs used to be mostly for teenagers. Yet because good paying low skilled jobs were cut and outsourced.
Such service jobs became places where adults now seek employment.
Warehousing, manufacturing, etc.....jobs that paid good and brought people into the "middle class" were shipped to China. Now we are a country of cheap goods but make almost nothing.
Yeah $15 an hour aint shit these days when the (((average))) rent is about $1100 a month.
It's obvious that some on BGOL are not fully plugged into the "real" world or the corporate world that a tally makes the decisions.
Businesses ALWAYS adjust to the climate. When unions got too greedy what happened? Jobs were outsourced a d automated. When call centers became difficult to staff what happened? Jobs were outsourced and automated. Most McDonald's have eliminated most front counter ordering in favor of in lobby kiosk. Some eliminated all lobby service due to Covid and have no plans on reopening.
What the public doesn't see:
Some hospital specialties are being computer automated such as radiology.
Schools are importing teachers to combat shortage.
Asian countries are already implementing FULL service fast food vending machines using people only to refill the machines.
EVERY plant manufacturing sector has shrunk its work force and has increased automation and robot use.
Online ordering has increased by 33% since Covid which has negatively effected in person sales at most retailers. Go to Walmart and see only two cashiers.
Lastly, people incorrectly state that "$15/hr ain't ish!" Let's break it down. $15/hr is $31,200/ yr. If a couple both work these "low paying" will be a household earning $62,400/ yr. The median household income in the US is $67K. This is a 9% difference. If this couple earned $1.25 more they would be at the median. Or, just imagine if a person decided to work two jobs??
We have become a country of lazy and entitled underachievers who make poor financial decisions. Black folk are capable of so much more. We have to get back to the mentality of doing whatever it takes.
These fools thought it was all about stopping those extra benefits and people would come running back and begging to work the GOP is finding out that wasn't the case. A lot of people found way better paying jobs started small at home businesses and others took the extra benefits and went to trade schools/online courses. These MFs are mad no one wants to come back to those slave wage jobs like the good old days. My god son and his friends got laid off so him and his friends took their unemployment benefits and used them to get his CDL Class A License. The people that are hurting are the Cac MAGA who are still blaming immigrants for taking jobs these MFs won't even do causes they don't want to learn a new skill or are still waiting for coal to come back![]()
100k aint shit. look at the skillset and hours worked. look at the COL. making the same amount u are.It costs me $20 to fill up my lawn tractor...
Office workers sitting at home safely & making 100+K a yr, while the people that do the grind making $15 an hr in the plants & warehouses.
30 day tags at a all time high hereI see so many people “stuntin” with their government checks. Obviously the gouvernement gave them so much that they were able to save a good amount.
The vast majority of Americans buy things they don’t need and will use all that money by Christmas. They’ll be out looking for a job again soon. Give it 3 months lol.
Well that depends on where you live and 100k is not the new 50k though because the average person (singular) isn't making that amount.100k aint shit. look at the skillset and hours worked. look at the COL. making the same amount u are.
100K is the new 50k
never felt so poor in my life.
Too many entitled folks out there that don't want to work hard and don't want to make the necessary self-investment to get better jobs. There are plenty of folks busting their asses for $20 an hour.
I guarantee you when the stimmy money, tax refund money, rent moratorium, and unemployment run out they'll be stepping over each other to get the jobs they're thumbing their noses at.
Folks want to make $50 60 thousand dollars a year with zero experience or education.
I didn't say that you did, my brother. What I said was a person earning $15/hr should not be expecting to live in housing that is for the average earning population.I never said 15 an hour is an average job. I said 15 dollars an hour aint shit considering the average rent is $1100 a month.
The point I made was not about people making $15 an hour expecting anything.I didn't say that you did, my brother. What I said was a person earning $15/hr should not be expecting to live in housing that is for the average earning population.
Additionally, that $1100/ mo average is skewed due to places like NY and Cali. There are thousands of cities in the US where a person can rent an apartment for much less than $1000.00. I would even add that for $1100, I could find anyone on this board a decent 2 or 3 bedroom home to buy in which your mortgage would be approximately $1100 in any state (NY and California excluded).
A nation of low intelligence workers is a nation of cheap labor.Let the people speak, jobs that don’t want to pay decent wages needs to go out of business anyway. It’s another tool for white supremacy anyway, keep parents working two jobs while the kids run the streets getting hymned up by 12
100k aint shit. look at the skillset and hours worked. look at the COL. making the same amount u are.
100K is the new 50k
never felt so poor in my life.
How is that mug holding enough drink for Shaq?![]()
BGOL Millionaire Land, where 100K ........ even $31K ain't shit.
If anyone is paying over $1000 in rent is doing it wrong. Over $1000 is a mortgage for a $150K home.The point I made was not about people making $15 an hour expecting anything.
My point is some people think $15 an hour is a lot of money when it is not.
You yourself stated $15 an hour isn't a lot of money. So I don't understand your disagreement. You seem to be arguing against a point I did not make.
Btw I just took a look at the average rent in the poorest state in the country (aka Mississippi) and it's $1150.
0-BR | 1-BR | 2-BR | 3-BR | 4-BR |
---|---|---|---|---|
$553 | $590 | $727 | $941 | $1,073 |
People haven't figured out that 100k is soon to be the new 50k. Up here, in low cost Ohio, price to live in the 'hood' went up 30 percent last year.100k aint shit. look at the skillset and hours worked. look at the COL. making the same amount u are.
100K is the new 50k
never felt so poor in my life.
It’s not just higher pay workers want.
They want better and affordable health insurance, affordable childcare, pensions and safe work environments.
This pandemic got folks thinking. And a lot of folks have realized they don’t need these crappy jobs.
Yeah that’s why you get an education. A warehouse worker job or a job flipping burgers at McDonald’s is suppose to be a way to remind you that you fucked up.
You think you deserve all the things listed above while working at a below entry level job?
Let’s put it this way society wouldn’t be able to function without blue collard workers.. unless you grow your own crops and raising cattle/chickens/etc..your food comes from some type of store and it got there cause a truck driver.. unless you build your house/ apt yourself some construction worker built it.. you taking a shower or using a toilet wouldn’t happen without plumbers.. that electricity and gas you receive is thanks to them workers in that field.. garbage would be everywhere without sanitation.. so everyday life would not go on without those essential personal..so all that degree shit nigs talking , without them nigs that don’t have degrees life as we know it would look completely different and almost wouldn’t be livableNot everybody is educational material.
Not everybody can sit in a classroom listening to somebody talk and talk.
It’s why you see some people work in offices/indoors and some folks outside in the environment. Or they get jobs that have them moving around indoors like in a warehouse or security guard.
I am one of those people. That’s why I drive a semi as a OTR driver.
Lots of folks don’t like being indoors. High paying jobs that require a education usually are indoor associated jobs.
I hated school and high school for me was like prison. After getting out the military I tried a office job and almost lost my damn mind being cooped up in there. I spent majority of the time staring at the clock.
Trade jobs (blue collar) like in construction, the railroad, etc appeal to a certain type of folks.
All these people working service sector/ warehouse work were the type of folks who gravitated toward factory work. All the factories shutdown and were exported overseas.