They ended unemployment especially in the red States and yet….

[BKF]

When he said food he didn’t say $100 a week he said $100 a month… a monthly metrocard in nyc is $127 which still takes you to $1,524 a yr which is considered cheap compared to some places.. but mta was built for certain areas, not the same when you go to other states.. as far as these $15 an hr apartments that there are so much of, many retail job workers would love to know these mass housing you speak of that’s available to them

He seems to think that those below prices for rent are in abundance. Housing cost that low would be snatched up by people making more than $15 an hour and leaving the higher cost to those on section 8 and those who make too much or just don't qualify for section 8. Even deep in the hood in many places in this country rent is too damn high.

 

[Famous1]

 

[tallblacknyc]

Actually, you are the plant put here to persuade brothers and sisters that all is lost and that there is nothing they can do to make their lives better. You have hundreds of threads where you tell black folk to wait on the government particularly the democrats to save us. Remember you told everyone..."vote Biden!! He will make things better."

Check my record, most of my posts are geared towards awareness for black folk. Your posts all have the same theme..............don't do anything that will help yourself. that's for CACs only.

Why? Because I tell people what their dads should have told them. If you don't work, you don't eat. We are not owed anything. Get up get out and get something, don't let the days of your life pass by.

Lmaoooo everyone knows you a straight fucking liar now.. I’m in no political threads..you never heard me say vote for anybody..that’s how everyone know you full of shit.. than your lie number 2 said rely on government assistance is what I preach get all the fuck way outta here with that lie..people know I preach entrepreneurship, relying on your capabilities, alternative money.. diff careers that’s not college needed.. people on here know I spit that alternative money… so you officially a fucking fraud.. know you on my radar and I’m going to troll the fuck out of you cac..foot on your neck now bitchhhh

 

[tallblacknyc]

He seems to think that those below prices for rent are in abundance. Housing cost that low would be snatched up by people making more than $15 an hour and leaving the higher cost to those on section 8 and those who make too much or just don't qualify for section 8. Even deep in the hood in many places in this country rent is too damn high.

Exactly dude is a fraud anyway I been telling people that

 

[tallblacknyc]

You implied Black people were lazy in this thread. You keep pushing GOP talking points in this thread.

Notice the fraud calling people plants cause everybody know he full of shit..notice he claimed you can get all these cheap housing everywhere..when I asked him to post all these cheap housing areas he never replied.. but let you say something negative about black people and that nig will post 10,000 diagrams trying to co-sign negatives about black people.. time to get rid of this clown once and for all

 

[SPECTRE1]

They need to bring unemployment back, I enjoyed the social distancing I was getting from white supremacists, Asians, and Indians. I could sit in my house for months without having to interact with anybody. Now they are all in my face 24/7, I am about to use chemical weapons.

The Kroger mass shooter was on unemployment and forced to go back to work.

The remote work is good for us and would love a job like this. I have become so used to their toxicity that when I stepped away now it is too much. I would normally not chose to be around them naturally, a job forces us

 

[Tito_Jackson]

The reason I don't trip off of the insults is because it's a defense mechanism used by those who do not have any real rebuttal. I say if $15 is not enough, get a different job, I'm called a GOP plant. I say spending $1100 on housing when you earn $15/hr is not being financially savvy, I'm called a GOP plant. I gave numerous alternative job suggestions that do not require a college degree, I'm called a GOP plant. I say, "Hey, if you earn $15/hr and you are not working a full 40 hours a week, then get an additional job, I'm called a GOP plant.

For everyone reading this. Please do not allow this group of black Judas' to distract you and keep you from becoming the best you. I post stock advice, career advice, relationship advice, among other things that are geared towards uplifting black folk. The black Judas mob only sit around like old ladies complaining and trying to trick you to remain below average as they are. Not once have they offered solutions. Why? Because they have none. Their lives are in shambles and miserable people want company. The solutions are there, but they refuse to do the work. Every single solution I gave is spot on. They cannot deny that. So, instead, they flood the thread will BS hoping that the helpful information is lost. But, we see right through them. Remember, this same group of grumpy grannies tried to tell you and I that going to college is a waste of time. But, fighting for a $15/hr job is a good use of your time?

So, go ahead Black Judas gang, call me GOP or republican. Call me a clown for telling you, "you can do better if you want to." What I do know is that I will continue to help my people, changing lives one at a time.......in real life.

Yall ain't fooling anyone. Malcolm told us to watch out for yall. We see right through your charade.

 

[tallblacknyc]

The reason I don't trip off of the insults is because it's a defense mechanism used by those who do not have any real rebuttal. I say if $15 is not enough, get a different job, I'm called a GOP plant. I say spending $1100 on housing when you earn $15/hr is not being financially savvy, I'm called a GOP plant. I gave numerous alternative job suggestions that do not require a college degree, I'm called a GOP plant. I say, "Hey, if you earn $15/hr and you are not working a full 40 hours a week, then get an additional job, I'm called a GOP plant.

For everyone reading this. Please do not allow this group of black Judas' to distract you and keep you from becoming the best you. I post stock advice, career advice, relationship advice, among other things that are geared towards uplifting black folk. The black Judas mob only sit around like old ladies complaining and trying to trick you to remain below average as they are. Not once have they offered solutions. Why? Because they have none. Their lives are in shambles and miserable people want company. The solutions are there, but they refuse to do the work. Every single solution I gave is spot on. They cannot deny that. So, instead, they flood the thread will BS hoping that the helpful information is lost. But, we see right through them. Remember, this same group of grumpy grannies tried to tell you and I that going to college is a waste of time. But, fighting for a $15/hr job is a good use of your time?

So, go ahead Black Judas gang, call me GOP or republican. Call me a clown for telling you, "you can do better if you want to." What I do know is that I will continue to help my people, changing lives one at a time.......in real life.

Yall ain't fooling anyone. Malcolm told us to watch out for yall. We see right through your charade.

Where’s those cheap housing situations you were talking about for the $15 an hr people ..we’re waiting

 

[Famous1]

Lmaoooo everyone knows you a straight fucking liar now.. I’m in no political threads..you never heard me say vote for anybody..that’s how everyone know you full of shit.. than your lie number 2 said rely on government assistance is what I preach get all the fuck way outta here with that lie..people know I preach entrepreneurship, relying on your capabilities, alternative money.. diff careers that’s not college needed.. people on here know I spit that alternative money… so you officially a fucking fraud.. know you on my radar and I’m going to troll the fuck out of you cac..foot on your neck now bitchhhh

No lies told...

 

[BKF]

The reason I don't trip off of the insults is because it's a defense mechanism used by those who do not have any real rebuttal. I say if $15 is not enough, get a different job, I'm called a GOP plant. I say spending $1100 on housing when you earn $15/hr is not being financially savvy, I'm called a GOP plant. I gave numerous alternative job suggestions that do not require a college degree, I'm called a GOP plant. I say, "Hey, if you earn $15/hr and you are not working a full 40 hours a week, then get an additional job, I'm called a GOP plant.

For everyone reading this. Please do not allow this group of black Judas' to distract you and keep you from becoming the best you. I post stock advice, career advice, relationship advice, among other things that are geared towards uplifting black folk. The black Judas mob only sit around like old ladies complaining and trying to trick you to remain below average as they are. Not once have they offered solutions. Why? Because they have none. Their lives are in shambles and miserable people want company. The solutions are there, but they refuse to do the work. Every single solution I gave is spot on. They cannot deny that. So, instead, they flood the thread will BS hoping that the helpful information is lost. But, we see right through them. Remember, this same group of grumpy grannies tried to tell you and I that going to college is a waste of time. But, fighting for a $15/hr job is a good use of your time?

So, go ahead Black Judas gang, call me GOP or republican. Call me a clown for telling you, "you can do better if you want to." What I do know is that I will continue to help my people, changing lives one at a time.......in real life.

Yall ain't fooling anyone. Malcolm told us to watch out for yall. We see right through your charade.

Here's the thing. That may be unwise but doing so more than likely isn't an option. I'm sure if someone making $15 an hour has the choice they rather pay under a thousand but they are not the only people out there looking for low priced apartments.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Here's the thing. That may be unwise but doing so more than likely isn't an option. I'm sure if someone making $15 an hour has the choice they rather pay under a thousand but they are not the only people out there looking for low priced apartments.

He was lying about the abundance of low rent locations.. why would so many people be paying high rent if there were so many cheap options available.. notice he still hasn’t posted any of this information supporting his claims… he’s an habitual liar and he loves shitting on black people… for months I been pointing out his act.. he usually post hundreds of diagrams trying to prove negatives about black people..whenever I call him out on it he claims he points out black negativity to open our eyes..whenever I ask for his solutions he disappears better than keyser soze.. he hates that now more people are seeing his trolling and now he’ll go missing until he can find a new thread to find a way to shit on black people. This is who he is

 

[SPECTRE1]

There is a million dead people not working due to COVID-19. There are old fuckers that finally retired opening up opportunities. They need to get rid of the discrimination laws protecting them, it should be based on retirement income. If you have millions saved up, with a pension and social security; you can be fired from your job.

In my sad profession, I am not seeing any labor shortage. I have transition to other work and get jobs more readily without any of the hassles.

What gets me upset is an old fucker with hair color trying to look younger with a pension and abundant retirement assets working another job that I could have had interviewing me.

Seeing these greedy old timers getting wiped out from COVID is sweet justice. Corporate America promotes this garbage.

 

[BKF]

What gets me upset is an old fucker with hair color trying to look younger with a pension working another job that I could have had interviewing me.

Seeing these greedy old timers getting wiped out from COVID is sweet justice. Corporate America promotes this garbage.

So what you saying is you're mad ass hell those old timers still have hair to dye, while you're balding at an early age.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

Where’s those cheap housing situations you were talking about for the $15 an hr people ..we’re waiting

Here's the thing. That may be unwise but doing so more than likely isn't an option. I'm sure if someone making $15 an hour has the choice they rather pay under a thousand but they are not the only people out there looking for low priced apartments.

He was lying about the abundance of low rent locations.. why would so many people be paying high rent if there were so many cheap options available.. notice he still hasn’t posted any of this information supporting his claims… he’s an habitual liar and he loves shitting on black people… for months I been pointing out his act.. he usually post hundreds of diagrams trying to prove negatives about black people..whenever I call him out on it he claims he points out black negativity to open our eyes..whenever I ask for his solutions he disappears better than keyser soze.. he hates that now more people are seeing his trolling and now he’ll go missing until he can find a new thread to find a way to shit on black people. This is who he is

Within 2 minutes of searching, here is a 2br apartment in NYC for $1000. Get a roommate and you are paying $500/ mo. Exactly what a $15/hr earner in New York should be doing.

I also found studio apartments for $650.

162 3rd Ave Apartments | New York City, NY Apartments

162 3rd Ave Apartments in New York City, NY 10003 | See official prices, pictures, current floorplans and amenities. Check availability!

www.apartmenthomeliving.com

In other places (other than California) it would be much easier.

Again, for those reading this, check his posts. He is the same person telling you not to go to college and thing you to not send your kids to college. This is the same dude that wants you to gamble on finding a job putting out chairs and tables where you will supposedly make 70 -90K before overtime. This is the dude that what's you to bet your life on get rich quick schemes instead of real solutions.

He says that I do not offer solutions. But, my posting record says otherwise. This dude has never posted anything that a person can apply to their lives today that would put them in a better place in the future.

Bro, you all cap. We see through you. You like to curse and call people names like a lil school girl when you have no facts or rebuttal. We see through you. You are exposed Black Judas.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Within 2 minutes of searching, here is a 2br apartment in NYC for $1000. Get a roommate and you are paying $500/ mo. Exactly what a $15/hr earner in New York should be doing.

I also found studio apartments for $650.

162 3rd Ave Apartments | New York City, NY Apartments

162 3rd Ave Apartments in New York City, NY 10003 | See official prices, pictures, current floorplans and amenities. Check availability!

www.apartmenthomeliving.com

In other places (other than California) it would be much easier.

5 hrs later you answered… there’s prob 10,000+ retail workers in nyc.. can you post 10,000 cribs for under $1000… you remember you said it’s an abundance of them so we need many examples… I could have posted a complex that had various below $1000 apts but that dosent mean it’s a shitload of them available for all the retail workers

 

[tallblacknyc]

• First, if you are earning $15/hr, then you absolutely do not need to be living in housing that costs you $1100/ mo. That's just dumb. There is plenty of housing for people who earn $15/ hr.
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• 
  Your words

 

[Tito_Jackson]

5 hrs later you answered… there’s prob 10,000+ retail workers in nyc.. can you post 10,000 cribs for under $1000… you remember you said it’s an abundance of them so we need many examples… I could have posted a complex that had various below $1000 apts but that dosent mean it’s a shitload of them available for all the retail workers

• 
  Your words

Moving the goalposts are we?

This dude wants me to post every listing in NYC.

Also, in case you are unaware, the whole world is not NYC. A person who works in NYC who earns $15/hr can also live in Jersey.

A person who earns $15/hr wl not have luxurious options, but they do have options.

Lastly, QUOTE me correctly, you are purposely augmenting my original statement to fit your false narrative and claims.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Moving the goalposts are we?

This dude wants me to post every listing in NYC.

Also, in case you are unaware, the whole world is not NYC. A person who works in NYC who earns $15/hr can also live in Jersey.

A person who earns $15/hr wl not have luxurious options, but they do have options.

Lastly, QUOTE me correctly, you are purposely augmenting my original statement to fit your false narrative and claims.

You said there were many..I didn’t ask you to specifically post nyc.. you decided to post nyc.. so I asked you to post many like you claim existed.. you can post many in diff states it’s on you.. you claimed it now I’m asking you to prove it

You lucky I didn’t ask you to prove them hundreds of Biden threads you claimed I made that show you’re full of shit..I’m just asking you to post many 1000 apts.. shouldn’t be hard liar..since it’s so many as you claimed

 

[cocobeauty]

They need to bring unemployment back, I enjoyed the social distancing I was getting from white supremacists, Asians, and Indians. I could sit in my house for months without having to interact with anybody. Now they are all in my face 24/7, I am about to use chemical weapons.

The Kroger mass shooter was on unemployment and forced to go back to work.

The remote work is good for us and would love a job like this. I have become so used to their toxicity that when I stepped away now it is too much. I would normally not chose to be around them naturally, a job forces us

I felt all of this with my whole existence. The video I mean, because I never stopped working

 

[BKF]

Moving the goalposts are we?

This dude wants me to post every listing in NYC.

Also, in case you are unaware, the whole world is not NYC. A person who works in NYC who earns $15/hr can also live in Jersey.

A person who earns $15/hr wl not have luxurious options, but they do have options.

Lastly, QUOTE me correctly, you are purposely augmenting my original statement to fit your false narrative and claims.

What's the average rent in NJ?

 

[Darrkman]

Within 2 minutes of searching, here is a 2br apartment in NYC for $1000. Get a roommate and you are paying $500/ mo. Exactly what a $15/hr earner in New York should be doing.

I also found studio apartments for $650.

162 3rd Ave Apartments | New York City, NY Apartments

162 3rd Ave Apartments in New York City, NY 10003 | See official prices, pictures, current floorplans and amenities. Check availability!

www.apartmenthomeliving.com

In other places (other than California) it would be much easier.

Again, for those reading this, check his posts. He is the same person telling you not to go to college and thing you to not send your kids to college. This is the same dude that wants you to gamble on finding a job putting out chairs and tables where you will supposedly make 70 -90K before overtime. This is the dude that what's you to bet your life on get rich quick schemes instead of real solutions.

He says that I do not offer solutions. But, my posting record says otherwise. This dude has never posted anything that a person can apply to their lives today that would put them in a better place in the future.

Bro, you all cap. We see through you. You like to curse and call people names like a lil school girl when you have no facts or rebuttal. We see through you. You are exposed Black Judas.

You didn't read what you posted. It's a sublet apartment and no couples so no roommates. So one person alone for $1,000 rent on a year to year basis cause the owner of the place can drop out of grad school and now you gotta move. THAT'S why it's $1,000/mnt.

 

[Darrkman]

Moving the goalposts are we?

This dude wants me to post every listing in NYC.

Also, in case you are unaware, the whole world is not NYC. A person who works in NYC who earns $15/hr can also live in Jersey.

A person who earns $15/hr wl not have luxurious options, but they do have options.

Lastly, QUOTE me correctly, you are purposely augmenting my original statement to fit your false narrative and claims.

The cost to travel from NJ to NYC is WAY MORE. In NJ you'll have to take NJ Transit into Manhattan for work. You won't be able to afford any of the places that are close to NYC, so Hoboken, Weehawken etc are out of the question. Additionally NJ Transit is EXPENSIVE.

Once again you're proving what I said. You don't actually know what you're talking about. You're not even factoring in the cost to commute and don't give me that bike to work BS that isn't an option the majority of the time. NJ Transit will run you $300 a month minimum if you live in areas you're saying are affordable. Also you need to understand the closer you live to a train station in and J the more expensive your rent becomes. Because as I stated before this isn't just about rent, everything is tied together and when you look at everything tied together, which is what happens in the real world, all your comments and examples fall apart. You're trying really hard to come across like you know what you're talking about but you're doing it to people that actually do know what we're talking about and all you're doing is making yourself look like a fool.

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

My dad worked a full time and a part time job just to make 60k for a large portion of his life.

But, a person shouldn’t have to work 60 hours a week to live. A lot of people will never make over the 50k salary working two job most of their life.

An Uber driver told me not long ago I should consider Uber because he pulled in 84k while working over 60 hours a week. That ain’t it for me. People should be able to live without having to slave to make ends. Of course, that’s the Uber driver’s choice to do so. But my pops was the classic blue collar American black man from the south born in 1950. Hard work is what he did to provide. I wish it could have been easier for him and black men like him.

If life were to be easier for him it would be easier for you. The system isn’t meant for your success.

Do you know why catholic schools have had to shut down? It isn’t the fact that people aren’t religious. They are. It’s the fact that non public schools only came about because of brown v board of education. And for a good while a union guy could afford to keep his children away from coloreds. Because those union jobs don’t exist anymore, those cacs are stuck. The same substandard education they’ve been giving to us they too are forced to consume.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

You said there were many..I didn’t ask you to specifically post nyc.. you decided to post nyc.. so I asked you to post many like you claim existed.. you can post many in diff states it’s on you.. you claimed it now I’m asking you to prove it

You lucky I didn’t ask you to prove them hundreds of Biden threads you claimed I made that show you’re full of shit..I’m just asking you to post many 1000 apts.. shouldn’t be hard liar..since it’s so many as you claimed

OK, I will give you one of the scenarios that I present to many of my mentees. Many of them can afford $600/ mo in housing. So, we tend to look for homes that are $80K or lower. I am a firm believer in purchasing vs renting. I generally assist my mentees with FHA mortgages as well as general home searches. This assumes 3.5% down, 4.1% interest rate, and associated PMI.

All of the following homes could be bought paying approximately $650 per month. I found all of these with less than 5 minutes of searching.

Virginia

540 Mingea St, Petersburg, VA 23803 - realtor.com®

View 11 photos for 540 Mingea St, Petersburg, VA 23803 a 2 bed, 1 bath, 720 Sq. Ft. single family home built in 1952 that sold on 09/25/2007.

www.realtor.com

Georgia

639 Sapp St, Macon, GA, 31204 | realtor.com®

View detailed information about property 639 Sapp St, Macon, GA, 31204 including listing details, property photos, open house information, school and neighborhood data, and much more

www.realtor.com

Florida

1739 Ella St, Jacksonville, FL 32209 | realtor.com®

1739 Ella St, Jacksonville, FL 32209 is for sale. View 7 photos of this 2 bed, 1 bath, 824 sqft. single family home with a list price of $118900.

www.realtor.com

Alabama

347 3rd St, Montgomery, AL 36110 - realtor.com®

View 33 photos for 347 3rd St, Montgomery, AL 36110 a 3 bed, 2 bath, 1,261 Sq. Ft. single family home built in 1965.

www.realtor.com

Ohio

1629 Henry Ave Sw, Canton, OH 44706 - realtor.com®

View 6 photos for 1629 Henry Ave Sw, Canton, OH 44706 a 4 bed, 2 bath, 1,450 Sq. Ft. single family home built in 1917 that sold on 07/25/2000.

www.realtor.com

Illinois

1226 W 73rd St, Chicago, IL 60636 - realtor.com®

View 12 photos for 1226 W 73rd St, Chicago, IL 60636 a 5 bed, 2 bath, 1,698 Sq. Ft. single family home built in 1915 that sold on 01/21/2005.

www.realtor.com

North Carolina

1227 N Lafayette St, Shelby, NC 28150 - realtor.com®

Browse photos and price history of this 2 bed, 1 bath, 1,498 Sq. Ft. recently sold home at 1227 N Lafayette St, Shelby, NC 28150 that sold on November 1, 2021 for Last Sold for $55,000

www.realtor.com

With everything, there are caveats and context. Washington, DC (the entire DMV), NYC, LA, San Fran, and a few others are exempt for obvious reasons.

My point is this, finding housing within a person's price point isn't the difficult part. Getting people to accept what they can afford is the difficult part. I see this every week. Someone contacts me and is ready to improve his or her life. We talk about their financials and we put it all on a spreadsheet so that there is no confusion. Women, more so than men, look sideways when you tell them that they cannot afford the four-bedroom home in the good neighborhood with their current financial situation. Then they, both men and women, start presenting all types of scenarios. What if I did this? What if I did that?

At the end of the day, a person is either going to make a decision to take control of their life and do whatever is needed to improve themselves or a person is going to accept their life as is and do nothing. I will continue to assist those who chose that they want more right now.

 

[SPECTRE1]

So what you saying is you're mad ass hell those old timers still have hair to dye, while you're balding at an early age.

You got companies promoting how productive retirees are as workers, these companies should be boycotted.

Age discrimination should be a protected class after proving the lack of retirement assets. You should have to apply and submit documentation. If you are paid over a million dollars in salary and benefits, you are not a protected class based on age, you are at will.

Many of them gamble and blew their money on garbage, they want to occupy a job that a younger worker could be doing with their pension from another job.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

You got companies promoting how productive retirees are as workers, these companies should be boycotted.

Age discrimination should be a protected class after proving the lack of retirement assets. You should have to apply and submit documentation.

Many of them gamble and blew their money on garbage, they want to occupy a job that a younger worker could be doing.

I agree. A person shouldn't be forced to retire nor should a person capable of doing a job be denied an opportunity to because of their age.

 

[black again]

@Tito_Jackson

"If I missed your post, give me a moment to reply"

Just a reminder that YOU typed that...

At first, I was curious as to how you'd attempt to respond. Now...not so much.

Don't bother, bruh. Lots of folks on here disappear, when they can't support their claims.

Somehow you can see every other post, but when it's one with overwhelming evidence to prove my point, you ain't Tito Jackson, you're Stevie Wonder.

 

[Dr. Truth]

“HEY N WORDS PULL UP THOSE BOOT STRAPS AND WORK!!”

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Restaurant industry is fucked cause they had a culture of treating workers like shit AND Covid was killing them at a greater rate and they realized that it's just not worth it.

I can personally attest to this. I've bowed out last month and promised myself that I'll NEVER work in another kitchen again or have any dealings with da culinary field unless on some Anthony Bourdain shit, personal chef services or meal prep. Da culinary field is in shambles, especially. For years, folks were told if you don't like it, go find a gig somewhere else & that's exactly what many did. Now they bitchin' about not being able to find employees. But what they won't tell you is they overwork their employees, treat 'em like shit, allow da patrons to treat 'em like shit and pay in peanuts for many. Most kitchens maintain a perpetual culture of toxicity (these peckerwoods think being exploited makes 'em tough), being overworked & stress levels through da roof on top of pandemic woes. @killagram assisted me with da steps for my career change ambitions and they'll be coming to fruition shortly.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Lol @ niggas in here shilling for corporations.

 

[killagram]

Lol @ niggas in here shilling for corporations.

Bitch niggaz nuts been cut out...and don't have a spine...and can't walk on they on two feet....you hang in there...and don't be led astray...my nigg

 

[Darrkman]

I can personally attest to this. I've bowed out last month and promised myself that I'll NEVER work in another kitchen again or have any dealings with da culinary field unless on some Anthony Bourdain shit, personal chef service or meal prep. Da culinary field is in shambles, especially. For years, folks were told if you don't like it,, go find a gig somewhere else & that's exactly what many did. Now they bitchin' about not being able to find employees. But what they won't tell you is they overwork their employees, treat 'em like shit, allow da patrons to treat 'em like shit and pay in peanuts for many. Most kitchens maintain perpetual culture of toxicity (these peckerwoods think being exploited makes 'em tough), being overworked & stress level through da roof on top of pandemic woes. @killagram assisted me with da steps for my career change ambitions and they'll be coming to fruition shortly.

Man listen. Here in NYC line cooks were dying left and right from covid and front and back of the house workers were saying fuck that and never going back.

Line cooks have the highest risk of dying during pandemic, plus other riskiest jobs: study

Line cooks had a 60% increase in mortality associated with the pandemic, compared to a 22% increase overall.

www.cnbc.com

 

[thismybgolname]

I can personally attest to this. I've bowed out last month and promised myself that I'll NEVER work in another kitchen again or have any dealings with da culinary field unless on some Anthony Bourdain shit, personal chef service or meal prep. Da culinary field is in shambles, especially. For years, folks were told if you don't like it,, go find a gig somewhere else & that's exactly what many did. Now they bitchin' about not being able to find employees. But what they won't tell you is they overwork their employees, treat 'em like shit, allow da patrons to treat 'em like shit and pay in peanuts for many. Most kitchens maintain perpetual culture of toxicity (these peckerwoods think being exploited makes 'em tough), being overworked & stress level through da roof on top of pandemic woes. @killagram assisted me with da steps for my career change ambitions and they'll be coming to fruition shortly.

You can apply what you're saying to the wireless industry too.

We've had people in mass either quit or go out on leave.

It got to the point where they raised the starting pay for certain departments and they're begging people that quit to come back.

"Just be happy to have a job" used to be the mantra now they're kicking themselves.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

Man listen. Here in NYC line cooks were dying left and right from covid and front and back of the house workers were saying fuck that and never going back.

Line cooks have the highest risk of dying during pandemic, plus other riskiest jobs: study

Line cooks had a 60% increase in mortality associated with the pandemic, compared to a 22% increase overall.

www.cnbc.com

When they imposed new restrictions here last fall, while I was still on furlough at my primary resort (my restaurant permanently closed in July), I worked at a spot where they were willing to let those that were COVID positive still come to work. I wasn't witit. These folks don't give a fuck like they make it seem like. Maybe some, but damn sho' not all.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

My apologies for the late reply. I had a few afternoon meetings at work and then I had to go to practice as I coach both my sons' football teams.

You have 7 different posts, I am not sure which ones I did not address. But let's dissect them all one by one.

For some reason, people still hold onto the idea that $15 hr is alotta money. It was when I was a kid. Mid level managers of Fortune 500 cos. were making that.

Now, it should be the minimum wage.

When a Big Mac debuted in 68, it was 40..45 cents. Now it's $4.

Minimum wage was $1.60 then vs $7.25 now.

Big Mac can't ketchup

$15/hr is $31,200/ yr. This is not a minuscule amount. As with all things, there is nuance and context, which you will see me state periodically.

In Akron, OH, $31,200 is considered middle class. Why? Because the average individual income for the Akron metropolitan population is $23,320 USD (2019). This figure and comparison is akin to numerous other cities and regions across the United States. I assure you that a person who is earning $23,320 would not agree with you that $15/ is not and I quote, "alotta money."

"So what I keep hearing you and others say is there should not be a pay difference between jobs that require nothing but you to show up and no experience no training and require no responsibility or accountability and those that do?"

Not to speak for anyone else, but I don't think that's what the argument is at all.

What I'm saying is the scale is all screwed up.

Those people with skilled jobs need to be paid more also! Much more.

$15 min wage..and that's not a liveable wage for alotta adults.

Skilled labor, professionals need to be in the $50k-ish and up bracket...and that's on the low end.

It used to be that way, but companies found they could reduce wages.

Your position that basically everyone should be paid more is very juvenile in general logic and reasoning. Why? Because it completely ignores elementary economics. Quite simply, if there is more money in the economy, prices of goods and services will increase. In business and in economics we call this phenomenon Wage Push Inflation.

A recent report from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimated 1.4 million jobs would be lost (0.9 percent of employment) by the time the federal minimum wage reaches $15 in 2025 and would increase the federal deficit by $54 billion over the next 10 years due to increased spending on federal programs, such as Medicaid.

It's kinda hard to set scales in a free market, but totally agree that you shouldn't be making 35k after graduation, in alotta jobs.
But there are no absolutes.

If it was just kids making min wage, I'd agree more, but there is a large segment making the minimum or just over it. Their situation is more dire. And those people ARE the lower middle class.

It's simple economics. Our wages need to better reflect the price of things.

Again, the logic you are using is nonexistent and 100% rooted in emotions. If a person earns a BA in Art or Fashion Design or Tourism And Hospitality or Creative Writing or Sociology or Philosophy, Psychology or a number of other degrees concentrations, they cannot expect anything, but what the market deems they are worth. For most, it is little to nothing. Wages are largely based upon skillset, need, and scarcity, not as you put it, "the price of things."

From CNBC

EXECUTIVE COMPENSATION
CEOs see pay grow 1,000% in the last 40 years, now make 278 times the average worker
PUBLISHED FRI, AUG 16 2019 12:27 PM EDTUPDATED FRI, AUG 16 2019 1:47 PM EDT

Jeff Cox
@JEFFCOXCNBCCOM@JEFF.COX.7528

Those damn lazy, underachieving, greedy workers forced the CEOs to outsource those jobs and THEN made those bosses increase their salaries disproportionately...

I would argue that how an individual spends their salary has nothing to do with the earnings of a CEO.

Additionally, according to an article in TIME magazine "Overall, the 256 CEOs who responded to this survey—working in a range of fields from agriculture to utilities—reported working a mean of 58.15 hours per week, which shakes out to around 10–11 hours per day, not including weekends.

Most CEO are on call 24 hours a day and only take working vacations. No breaks.

By contrast, most $15/ hr workers average less than 35 hours per week.

However, hypothetically, if that $15/ hr worker was to work the same average as the CEO, then they would earn $45,357/ yr. Does this absolutely change things? This also begs the question, is the solution more hourly pay or more hours?

Bruh, you're wasting your time. You called it the same way I did yesterday.

Tito wants you to believe that the millions of manufacturing jobs lost, in the past, and the current 300k jobs a year lost are all the result of lazy, greedy people and not greedy CEOs.

The stat below shows where the greed lies...

CEO's comp up 1300% vs 18% for avg worker!

So basically the avg guy got only a couple percent annual raise OVER 40 YEARS!

But, "The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.43% per year between 1978 and 2018, producing a cumulative price increase of 285.32%. This means that prices in 2018 are 3.85 times higher than average prices since 1978, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics consumer price index."


The CEO-to-worker pay gap has expanded exponentially over the past several decades.

The Economic Policy Institute (EPI) estimates that CEO compensation has grown 1,322% since 1978, while typical worker compensation has risen just 18%. In 2020, CEOs of the top 350 firms in the U.S. made $24.2 million, on average — 351 times more than a typical worker.

There's your greed. It don't take an ivy league education to see that.

However, if Tito still feels so strong about how greedy and lazy these blue collar workers are, I invite him to go to a bar or restaurant in a rust belt town and tell those people, whose jobs were outsourced, about their lazy work ethic.

I can give him a heads up, though...

It won't end well for him.

This can be easily addressed by making you aware of how a corporate business operates.

Ask yourself this......If CEOs are so "greedy" as you stated, who actually determines the CEO's salary and packages? Do you really believe that a person becomes CEO and then gives himself or herself a raise? Of course not. CEOs do not set their salaries, CEO salaries are based upon the recommendations of the board of directors of the company. Also, guess who gets to approve the recommendations? The shareholders. So, why do CEOs get paid so much? Because they are the individuals tasked with steering the ship to maximum profits. If a person can increase the total profit by 500 million, giving them 10% which is 50 million is nothing because you wouldn't have had it anyway if it wasn't for that person.

@Tito

"A non-educated worker who is easily replaceable should not be paid the same as a CEO. Period."

Possibly the worst argument I've ever seen.
I write CEOs are paid a thousand times the avg worker (I wrote it at least TWICE, so you couldn't have missed it) and this is your response?

I literally stopped reading, because if you can't quote me accurately, and debate those points, what's the point of the discussion?

Hella weak comprehension for a supposed ivy leaguer.

My position is the same. A talented CEO is much more valuable than someone working the fries or and ringing up my order. As I stated earlier, salary is based upon the value one brings to the shareholders.

@Tito_Jackson

"If I missed your post, give me a moment to reply"

Just a reminder that YOU typed that...

At first, I was curious as to how you'd attempt to respond. Now...not so much.

Don't bother, bruh. Lots of folks on here disappear, when they can't support their claims.

Somehow you can see every other post, but when it's one with overwhelming evidence to prove my point, you ain't Tito Jackson, you're Stevie Wonder.

As you can see, everything that you have stated has been proven false. You have shared nothing that justifies why any person deserves to be paid more just because prices are high. I will say it again for the people in the back.....Wages are largely based upon skillset, need, and scarcity, not as you put it, "the price of things."

Now, morally, the minimum wage has not kept up with inflation nor has it kept pace with executive salaries. I have no problem acknowledging this fact. However, there is no law that states that a company has to increase all worker's wages equally.

CEO are fiduciaries of companies and their number one job is to increase profits. That's it. That is their job.