T-Pain Exposed! Dude can't sing
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Cause it looks like peeps from the south took offense when trash was called out.Pussy Krook said:How did this turn into a hating on the south thread
Then dudes talking about UGK. For some reason it doesnt seem to creep into the heads of some southern folk that Niggas are tired of the trash. NOT ugk . NOT luda, NOT oukast, NOT scarface. Tired of the D4L, Frachise Boyz, Yes TPAIN. that is all. weed out the trash.
My little sister swears up and down that the nigga was singing good at the TI concert last night.
You just contradicted yourself. How can you not co-sign him as a vocalist but do co-sign him as a simger? That makes no sense.Andeyhollawho said:
They are one and the same, just different terminology. You like that he is one of the many people with no skill in the game? No wonder music is so fucked up. You like what he's doing for the game.
Music is not a hustle, well at least it wasn't. Now you got people who don't care for music or have a passion for it but they got FL Studio so now they are producers with no musical training. I hate those people.
I like talent and ability, period. I don't care where you come from if you have skills I will support you. As it should be. These artists don't have to prove themselves anymore because of idiot fans not demanding more from them.
Leeeeeee said:
damn, that dude tore it up!
This is part of what happens when you take music out of the schools. These kids don't know jack shit about music and they try to argue their way or make excuses for their lack of knowledge instead of just LEARNING. If you can't play an instrument, YOU ARE NOT A MUSICIAN. Period. End of story. It has nothing to do with sensitivity. Its your own lack of knowledge. You can't pilot a plane if you don't know how; you can't play music if you don't know how. The whole industry is full of fakes who try to cheat and make music instead of learning the right way and in the end, these kids are just cheating themselves. White folk will take over rap/hip-hop, R&B and everything else and dumb ass nigga will have nothing.
Mutha fuckas learn just enough to get by and the millisecond they ask for more money, they get replaced by some other dumb mutha fucka that knows just enough to get by.
I grew up in the 80s and the one thing I can say about my generation's artists - the great ones were great FOR REAL. Stevie, MJ, Prince, Whitney, etc. Their music speaks for itself. Nowadays most niggas just get on the mic and launch a marketing campaign on how great they are to hype everybody up into believing it. Weak ass no-talent BUSTERS. That's why a CD won't last till the end of the year anymore.
Mutha fuckas learn just enough to get by and the millisecond they ask for more money, they get replaced by some other dumb mutha fucka that knows just enough to get by.
I grew up in the 80s and the one thing I can say about my generation's artists - the great ones were great FOR REAL. Stevie, MJ, Prince, Whitney, etc. Their music speaks for itself. Nowadays most niggas just get on the mic and launch a marketing campaign on how great they are to hype everybody up into believing it. Weak ass no-talent BUSTERS. That's why a CD won't last till the end of the year anymore.
The people who you just mentioned such as Whitney, Stevie, MJ, Prince had someone write all of their music. They were place holders more then anything and you call that talent? MJ and Whitney could not produce or write a song to save their life. Most of the acts that you guys say made good music never wrote any of it or produced any of the music The music that you say is good is dated by todays standard.Mo Pizorn said:
Times have changed. The days of being a place holder artist are gone. You can't afford to allow someone to write all of your music because of publishing deals. How many successful artist are out now that can't produce or write their on material. You will not find many. One of the few that are around that can not write or produce is Usher and guess who writes for him......T Pain does. T pain has written 6 songs on his new album along with Whitney, Bow wow, Britney Spears, Charlie Wilson, Chris Brown, Joe, k West. R kelly
and alot more.
Playing and instrument does not make you a musical producer.
You have just confirmed that you don't know shit about music. Why did you even come back to post this dumb shit?BrownTurd said:
Your opinion on music is invalid from here on.
MJ or Prince didn't produce their own music? Place holders? Stop it man you're killing me.
All hail the President of the T-Pain fan club.
BrownTurd said:
Dude, you're a musical dumbass.
Prince wrote and produced ALL of his music. So has Stevie. They are REAL musical geniuses, not silly ass so-called "self-proclaimed" geniuses like P-Shiddy and R Kelly. Your generation doesn't have ANYONE that can compare to them - NOBODY. NONE. MJ plays on his HIStory and Blood On The Dance Floor albums and has produced a lot of his own songs as well as written his lyrics and vocal arrangements. Fuck proving it to you - google it, schoolboy. There's a video of Mike singing and playing "Ben" on piano when he was younger. If you want to see it, go find it. I'm not going to work for you. That's what's wrong with you lazy brats. The reason I mentioned Whitney is because this whole thread was about T-Pain's weak ass voice. Now are you stupid enough to sit here and compare Whitney to T-Pain? I thought not. How about Mariah? She writes all of her lyrics and sings the shit out of them.
Also, I didn't say shit about being a producer. That term is bullshit. Anybody who can pay musicians and put a record together can call themselves a producer. Being a producer does NOT mean you have musical knowledge. Being a musician does because you have to know how to PLAY SOMETHING. See, if you knew any damn thing about music aside from how to steal from greater songs (sample) and ride true hits with a beat or write shitty songs that go out date faster than open milk can spoil then we wouldn't even be having this conversation. There was no Autotune back in the day. Singers had to sing FOR REAL. Musicians had to play and producers usually knew as much about music as the musicians playing. You are right about one thing - those days are gone. Music is suffering for it.
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OWNED!!!!!!!!!Mo Pizorn said:Dude, you're a musical dumbass.
Prince wrote and produced ALL of his music. So has Stevie. They are REAL musical geniuses, not silly ass so-called "self-proclaimed" geniuses like P-Shiddy and R Kelly. Your generation doesn't have ANYONE that can compare to them - NOBODY. NONE. MJ plays on his HIStory and Blood On The Dance Floor albums and has produced a lot of his own songs as well as written his lyrics and vocal arrangements. Fuck proving it to you - google it, schoolboy. There's a video of Mike singing and playing "Ben" on piano when he was younger. If you want to see it, go find it. I'm not going to work for you. That's what's wrong with you lazy brats. The reason I mentioned Whitney is because this whole thread was about T-Pain's weak ass voice. Now are you stupid enough to sit here and compare Whitney to T-Pain? I thought not. How about Mariah? She writes all of her lyrics and sings the shit out of them.
Also, I didn't say shit about being a producer. That term is bullshit. Anybody who can pay musicians and put a record together can call themselves a producer. Being a producer does NOT mean you have musical knowledge. Being a musician does because you have to know how to PLAY SOMETHING. See, if you knew any damn thing about music aside from how to steal from greater songs (sample) and ride true hits with a beat or write shitty songs that go out date faster than open milk can spoil then we wouldn't even be having this conversation. There was no Autotune back in the day. Singers had to sing FOR REAL. Musicians had to play and producers usually knew as much about music as the musicians playing. You are right about one thing - those days are gone. Music is suffering for it.
You really are a BROWN TURD. GOTT-DAMN YOU A DUMB ASS!!! Prince produced all of his albums from the FIRST ONE on! Stevie had someone writing all his music??????????BrownTurd said:
Please kill yourself...PLEASE!!!
DjMorpheus said:
JD slow down man. They don't know any better. I was done when some fool compared this clown to Cameo. WTF?????????? Ain't nothin you can explain to a mufucka after that.
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BrownTurd said:
You really need to educate yourself on our music. Music is like anything else, education matters.
Prince not only wrote and produced all his music, he was the youngest ever to have complete artistic control over the final album. That's a big deal.
When MJ did Thriller with Quincy Jones, MJ had many songwriting credits on the album...and if you think record sales matter more than the music, then check this out:
According to the Guinness World Records, Thriller is the world's best-selling album of all time, with sales estimated at 104 million copies.[3] The album is also notable for being one of only three albums to remain in the Top 10 of the Billboard 200 for one full year (along with Falling Into You by Celine Dion and Jagged Little Pill by Alanis Morissette), spending 80 consecutive weeks in the Top 10, 37 of which were at number one. "Thriller" is also the first album of only three in history to produce seven Billboard Hot 100 top-ten singles, and the first and to date only album to be the best-selling album of two years (1983 and 1984) in the United States, according to Billboard. The album continues to sell an estimated 60,000 units in the United States per year [4].
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
Main article: Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
* Written and composed by Michael Jackson
"The Girl Is Mine"
Main article: The Girl Is Mine
* Written and composed by Michael Jackson
"Beat It"
Main article: Beat It
* Written and composed by Michael Jackson
"Billie Jean"
Main article: Billie Jean
* Written and composed by Michael Jackson
I don't even know what the fuck you mean by place holder, but I guess that's because the artist I admire weren't that.
There is so much more for those willing to expand their minds and search.
PacMan said:
Leave Cameo out of this!
Those Brothers are/were musicians and sang.
I always knew he could not sing I mean most of the singers these days lip sync anyway that's why I don't buy albums I'll download them though but I'm not spending my hard earned money on weak singing.
BrownTurd said:
"Most rappers are wack, just like the people, they attract" - Afroman
BrownTurd, shitstain, you piece of shit, you are proving our point.
You're a fucking nimrod. You are stupid, and I mean low IQ stupid.
Idiots like yourself are the ones buying this T-Pain bullshit. Why? Cuz you are idiots that really don't know any better. You don't realize how dumb that shit you wrote really is, Why? Cuz you are too dumb to understand what dumb is.
Don't reply in this thread anymore.
If a million people believe in a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. This analogy pretty much sums up how I feel about today's music consumer. These zombies just hop on what's hot. No one cares about skill and talent. No one cares if they make shit that is dated and not classical(meaning years from now people will still be say "that's that jam"). No one cares about the genius that came before them or the sacrifices that they made.
This thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that money = quality to these braindead idiots. The fact that an industry that is not controlled by the musicians themselves. Ofays and Yehudis on the record label board of directors are calling all the shots and they are selling you a musical culture which has become stagnant/repetitive/uncreative and some of the shit they peddle is pure mind mush and self-destructive.
This thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that money = quality to these braindead idiots. The fact that an industry that is not controlled by the musicians themselves. Ofays and Yehudis on the record label board of directors are calling all the shots and they are selling you a musical culture which has become stagnant/repetitive/uncreative and some of the shit they peddle is pure mind mush and self-destructive.
What you just stated was a personal opinion and nothing was factual about your statements. Going by your logic a person would have to be an actual programmer to be considered great in using Photoshop. You don't have to have extensive knowledge of being a programer to be great at using photoshop. Playing an instrument has NOTHING to do with being a musical producer. The arrangement of different sounds and rhythms is what makes a great producer.Mo Pizorn said:Dude, you're a musical dumbass.
Prince wrote and produced ALL of his music. So has Stevie. They are REAL musical geniuses, not silly ass so-called "self-proclaimed" geniuses like P-Shiddy and R Kelly. Your generation doesn't have ANYONE that can compare to them - NOBODY. NONE. MJ plays on his HIStory and Blood On The Dance Floor albums and has produced a lot of his own songs as well as written his lyrics and vocal arrangements. Fuck proving it to you - google it, schoolboy. There's a video of Mike singing and playing "Ben" on piano when he was younger. If you want to see it, go find it. I'm not going to work for you. That's what's wrong with you lazy brats. The reason I mentioned Whitney is because this whole thread was about T-Pain's weak ass voice. Now are you stupid enough to sit here and compare Whitney to T-Pain? I thought not. How about Mariah? She writes all of her lyrics and sings the shit out of them.
Also, I didn't say shit about being a producer. That term is bullshit. Anybody who can pay musicians and put a record together can call themselves a producer. Being a producer does NOT mean you have musical knowledge. Being a musician does because you have to know how to PLAY SOMETHING. See, if you knew any damn thing about music aside from how to steal from greater songs (sample) and ride true hits with a beat or write shitty songs that go out date faster than open milk can spoil then we wouldn't even be having this conversation. There was no Autotune back in the day. Singers had to sing FOR REAL. Musicians had to play and producers usually knew as much about music as the musicians playing. You are right about one thing - those days are gone. Music is suffering for it.
A great producer has an ear for piecing together arrangements and sounds along with melodies to make a hot song. Because a person can play an instrument does not make them a hot music producer. It take talent to hear sounds and place them together to make them sound good.
Without a doubt Prince and MJ where very good at what they did. Prince during his time was considered a musical genius....but prince time has PASSED and we now have a new generation of musicians and producers. Producers don't have to spend tons of money for musicians and live bands anymore because technology has advanced so much to the point where a person can create a track that would normally take weeks to make...in about 10 minutes. Music is music. The only thing that has changed is the way music is made and produced.
BrownTurd said:
Are you calling Prince a hack.........You have got to be kidding me. Seriously though man, how old are you?
I'll admit I am no fan of his feminine dressing style and will say it in any Prince's fan face without holding my tongue but to say he had people write all of his hits is very misleading and suspect. Also Prince's catalog is large enough with timeless hits that he can perform anywhere in the world and pack a stadium. He does not ever have to make another hit in his life. T-Stain and the rest of today's posers could only dream of having 10% of Prince's success.
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