Martinez has been fighting world class fighters who were actually a threat to him and he's been fucking them up straight up and down.
yep..dude is my favorite boxer right now
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Martinez has been fighting world class fighters who were actually a threat to him and he's been fucking them up straight up and down.
I agree with everything except Hopkins. I think Hopkins believes he can beat everyone (and damn near has) so I don't really think he cherry picks. I just think he's trying to be smarter about the fights he does pick since he has so few left.
If you look back he was calling out Roy after he beat Trinidad and it was Roy who was ducking him.
He fought Taylor when he had no real name and there was no real call for him to fight him, nobody would have said shit if he didn't.
He fought Calzaghe, which stylistically would always be a tough fight, when he didn't have to. He fought Tarver and Pavlik when nobody in the world gave him a chance in hell to win (Particularly against Pavlik).
The same with this last Pascal fight, nobody gave him a shot and he took a kid 20 years younger to school and I expect him to do it again in two weeks.
On a completely different note, for all those who dont think Manny's fight have been cherry picked something that has to be remembered that I haven't seen mentioned here in this thread is that all of Manny's post DLH fights have only been against Top Rank fighters with the exception of Ricky Hatton. You would be foolish to believe that Top Rank has all the best fighters at 147 and has put them against Manny.
When was the last time Pacman fought a defensive-minded counterpuncher.
Fuck outta here...you casual boxing mans make me when to jump through the screen and choke you. Arum is spoon-feeding Pacman right now.
And that fight wasnt at no damn 106..Pacman came in at 130 and they shit was only 3 years ago and Pacman actually lost both of them...bullshit decisions...since the marquez fight in 2008 and hasnt fought anyone who has been known as a defensive fighter...must less a counterpuncher
They don't want to hear that. The video of Shane pulling a serious duck of Floyd has been posted here many times. Again, you are talking to a cat who thinks Floyd called out Manny then pulled the "Olympic drug testing" move as a "smoke screen" because he didn't want box anymore...![]()
Look anyone with sense understands like the baseball argument it won't give you the hand/eye coordination to hit a baseball, but it is possible that good player with that coordination can get on the shit, train harder and become stronger... to become a great home run hitter... Not that it will turn a bum into Superman.
At this point, anyone that doesn't see it is an idiot...
It's a damn shame that the only 'relevant' comment that can be made in reference to floyd is to constantly bring up him calling out fighters from years ago...Please, until he does something that is relevant in 2011 please... cut this shit out... Ancient irrelevant history at this point man... Until he fights, and fights consistently, he is really irrelevant...
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If you didn't follow... they were talking about Floyd NOT wanting any parts of Shane in his prime.
Funny how dudes want to bring up a phoney hypothetical to make a point, but actual history can't be used to counter that point.![]()
FYI, Shane does this glove touching thing with every fighter he respects... He's done it multiple times throughout his career. Reading all these posts there is one common theme... You guys are hilarious as you God Floyd is not giving you anything to crow about or to lean on since he obviously has not desire to or more than likely will every fight Manny or any other fighter which will create some intrigue. What he will do, and you idiots are too stupid to see it, is he will have these 'layoffs', do stupid shit here and there to try to keep his name relevant (i.e. fight ex girlfriends or beat up security guards), then build up a 'return' by fighting a decent 'tuneup', make a few bucks off of you idiots, and then when it comes time to fight a real fighter he will make a whole lot of excuses and let you clowns wait by baited breath while he basically tells you and the rest of the boxing world to go fuck yourselves, because he's made enough money off of your asses to go trick off for a few until he needs his next fix.
Pick apart Manny's performance all you want, and some of you are reaching like hell, but the reason a lot of the recent fights he's had have had fighters running and fighting out of character (Cotto, Clotty, Shane), has everything to do with the wood he was laying on them and the fear of what was coming back, and absolutely nothing to do with the fight being 'fixed'!!! You sheep ass niccas want SOOO much for your little Idol Floyd to come in and save the day, but ultimately you remind me of a Dude that wants a chick who doesn't want him, so after being dissed so much you start trying to pick him a part, especially when Floyd continues to lift you up, get your little juices flowing, only to let you down with another bullshit 'layoff'!
Regardless of your whining critique of Manny's performances, the bottom line is he is doing what fighters do, he fights, and doesn't sit on the sidelines playing games, acting a damn fool, and making an ass out of himself and his fans at every possible opportunity....
You guys are really pitiful.....![]()
It's a damn shame that the only 'relevant' comment that can be made in reference to floyd is to constantly bring up him calling out fighters from years ago...Please, until he does something that is relevant in 2011 please... cut this shit out... Ancient irrelevant history at this point man... Until he fights, and fights consistently, he is really irrelevant...
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It was just one year ago that Floyd took apart a Mosley coming off a great win. Last night Manny struggled to find a Mosley coming off a loss and a shitty performance. That's all I know. If Manny could make the type of money Floyd is making without having to give Arum about half of it - you'd prolly only see him once a year as well.
Ok, your right.... that's EXACTLY why Floyd only fights once a year... and Your right, the only one making any kind of money in boxing is Floyd or people who fight him... Boxing is really suffering since Floyd is not fighting... I think I am going to start a petition to bring Floyd back so that he can 'save' boxing once again... Manny, I do believe he is on a budget... I'm sure he is struggling to make ends meet so he can stretch that 100k he made last night..
And God forbid he has something else to fall back on after boxing... since he's not done anything to secure any type of career after he finishes boxing... And he must be an idiot not to blow his earnings on dick extension materialism, and then psuedo flaunt it to make himself look like a 'baller' to his legion of blind sheep idol worshippers, but in reality there will come a day where he will more than likely fall into the same line as his other 'flossing' homeboys and possibly need to file bankruptcy... Yeah, he must not have any money since we don't have any videos of him making rain, etc. Poor broke ass Manny, with no street credit to prove he has anything... I feel real sorry for his economic state since the savior of the financial well being of boxing won't come and bless him with the chance to make at least SOME money before he retires to a career in congress and as a national icon... What the fuck is Manny thinking...
Being Delusional must be a terrible place to live, thankfully I have yet to purchase my plane ticket to visit that place...![]()
Did you really type all of that to make such a goofy point? Floyd is an idiot for the way he spends his bread... like a dummy, he made his persona all about getting money and jacking it off. We all get that.
I think its odd that dudes get mad at a boxer's boxing schedule... what kind of shit is that? Or should I say they get mad at Floyd cause Winky Wright pulled that same move and no one gave a fuck.![]()
Ok, your right.... that's EXACTLY why Floyd only fights once a year... and Your right, the only one making any kind of money in boxing is Floyd or people who fight him... Boxing is really suffering since Floyd is not fighting... I think I am going to start a petition to bring Floyd back so that he can 'save' boxing once again... Manny, I do believe he is on a budget... I'm sure he is struggling to make ends meet so he can stretch that 100k he made last night..
And God forbid he has something else to fall back on after boxing... since he's not done anything to secure any type of career after he finishes boxing... And he must be an idiot not to blow his earnings on dick extension materialism, and then psuedo flaunt it to make himself look like a 'baller' to his legion of blind sheep idol worshippers, but in reality there will come a day where he will more than likely fall into the same line as his other 'flossing' homeboys and possibly need to file bankruptcy... Yeah, he must not have any money since we don't have any videos of him making rain, etc. Poor broke ass Manny, with no street credit to prove he has anything... I feel real sorry for his economic state since the savior of the financial well being of boxing won't come and bless him with the chance to make at least SOME money before he retires to a career in congress and as a national icon... What the fuck is Manny thinking...
Being Delusional must be a terrible place to live, thankfully I have yet to purchase my plane ticket to visit that place...![]()
What did ANY of that rant have to do with what I said? Face it, Manny failed to whup a 40 year old Mosley who was even more shot than when he faced Floyd. You can talk about Floyd not fighting all you want, and you're 100% right. You know I'M not the one who's gonna disagree with you about Floyd. But this doesn't change anything about what happened last night and at least when Floyd does fight, it's usually against guy coming off a good performance or a big win. Manny's camp has been picking from the loser's circle.
Did you not read my apology to you earlier in the thread Nicca!!!I'm having a real bad day so all this shit is transference of anger!!!! Gotta vent somewhere so fuck it... What a better play than a BGOL thread talking about FLOYD!!!
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Man leave me alone and stop quoting my post Nicca!!!
Wife got me over here feeling like that dude from that movie 'Falling Down' and shit!!!![]()
Man leave me alone and stop quoting my post Nicca!!!
Wife got me over here feeling like that dude from that movie 'Falling Down' and shit!!!![]()
real shit as always.
Bullshit you obviously aren't a real fan of boxing because you wouldn't have just said this shit.
There have been great boxing fights all year.
I'll name a few:
Sergio Martinez destroying Sergiy Dzinziruk
Nonito Donaire vs Fernando Montiel
Victor Ortiz's upset of Andre Berto
Brandon Rios vs Miguel Acosta
Orlando Solis's upset over Juanma (who was one fight away from a mega fight with Gamboa)
Vic Darchinyian as always putting on a great and entertaining fight against Yonnhy Perez
Yuriorkas Gamboa vs Jorge Solis.
Maidana vs Morales, another surprising and entertaining fight.
Khan vs Maidana was a cliffhanger (not this year but at the end of last year and within the last 6 months)
Cotto vs. Mayorga was even a surprisingly good and entertaining fight.
And these are the fights only with the names you may know and this is only the 5th month of the year, we're not even halfway through.
Novice boxing fans will watch a fight like this with two huge names that disappoints and suddenly condemn the whole sport when in reality the sport is fine (Outside of the Heavyweight division) guys like you just aren't watching unless its a real popular fight. You completely miss rise of up and comers and don't pay attention until there already on top.
What did ANY of that rant have to do with what I said? Face it, Manny failed to whup a 40 year old Mosley who was even more shot than when he faced Floyd. You can talk about Floyd not fighting all you want, and you're 100% right. You know I'M not the one who's gonna disagree with you about Floyd. But this doesn't change anything about what happened last night and at least when Floyd does fight, it's usually against guy coming off a good performance or a big win. Manny's camp has been picking from the loser's circle.
What did ANY of that rant have to do with what I said? Face it, Manny failed to whup a 40 year old Mosley who was even more shot than when he faced Floyd. You can talk about Floyd not fighting all you want, and you're 100% right. You know I'M not the one who's gonna disagree with you about Floyd. But this doesn't change anything about what happened last night and at least when Floyd does fight, it's usually against guy coming off a good performance or a big win. Manny's camp has been picking from the loser's circle.
I missed this earlier... but you do realize, Merce, when you used the truth in regards to Floyd... some how people can't accept that shit. Of all the legitimate complaints that could be used when talking about Floyd... regardless how you feel about Floyd yourself, niggas get mad when you try to insert some truth into shit.
It is what it is fam. You wanna know how Floyd could embarrass Manny's camp right now? Forget the drug testing and go on a full media blitz about how he want Pacman next, 50/50 split, they can choose the venue and anything else they want. Call his bluff. I guarantee you Manny's team will come up with some outrageous demands or post some type of road block so the fight can't be made. They'd rather fight Marquez than fight Floyd, since they'll be making JMM move up to 147.
I haven't followed this thread just clicked on this last page.
The fight didn't live up to the hype only because Mosley was shook, I'm a Mosley fan and wanted him to win but after he got knocked down, he was gun shy.
Manny couldn't gun blazing because Mosley can bang, so he had to have full control of his offensive game and not go throwing crazy 8 punch combos, this was a strategy that they probably worked on.
Manny wanted to fight but Shane was being defensive, unlike Clottey that held his guard up and stayed within Manny's range, Shane was skilfully running.
I even remember Manny urging him to fight but Shane wouldn't, Manny's the real deal and trust me I want someone to put out his fire so all these Youtubers and people that think he's god can go away.
The fight wasn't a set up like some are saying, but Mosley needs to retire now, his last fight with Mora stank too but I thought he probably couldn't get up for someone like Mora.
It is what it is fam. You wanna know how Floyd could embarrass Manny's camp right now? Forget the drug testing and go on a full media blitz about how he want Pacman next, 50/50 split, they can choose the venue and anything else they want. Call his bluff. I guarantee you Manny's team will come up with some outrageous demands or post some type of road block so the fight can't be made. They'd rather fight Marquez than fight Floyd, since they'll be making JMM move up to 147.
While I agree to certain point... but that approach would just make Floyd look stupid and let Pac off the hook for his bullshit excuses. Pac beating everyone that is easy is hurting his brand and he needs Floyd more than Floyd needs him...
Floyd retired that first go round and came back solely for that Pac payday. I think he was content before that and the only reason he fought Mosley was for a quick check. Floyd is so hated that he is at Tyson status... He can always come back and get paid off his name regardless of who he fights... really he has admitted that he is about the business more than the sport.
Pac on the other hand wants to prove he is the best and there is no other fighter that he can fight that will allow him to make that claim with the masses.