Pacquaio lost $100 mil by not fighting Mayweather in 2010
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smiffnwessun said:
He made $34 million for the 2nd Marquez fight. He made $20 million for the previous fight with Marquez.
Now...in 2010, when he supposedly "lost" $100 million...he made $35 million by fighting Antonio Margarito.
Those three fights...we have his meter running at $90 million. Let's add the $35 million for fighting Miguel Cotto in 2009, the $20 million for Shane Mosely in 2011, and the $20 million for Bradley in 2012.
He's one of the few fighters that don't have to kiss Mayweather's ass for a payday. His net worth is estimated at around $85 million...and that's being spent in the Phillippines, where a dollar is worth 42 Philippine pesos.
The difference is Mayweather is a boss. Pacquiao is an employee. So you can spit out numbers but after paying taxes, support team, promoter etc..How much does he actually end up with.
So he chose not to make 15 million dollars more than his entire net worth because he didn't want to kiss Floyd's ass and take drug tests... That sounds like a good decision.
Hell fuckin' no.
Sorry you seem to be dealing from a position of have-not versus have. Have-Nots succumb out of NEED. Rich muthafuckas don't do ultimatums. They've been catching fools left and right for performance drugs....Manny? Crickets. Yet here we are in 2013 and folks still talking about THAT SHIT? I'd rather ask the logical question...Why would a superior fighter leave $100MM on the table? Answer? They don't.So he chose not to make 15 million dollars more than his entire net worth because he didn't want to kiss Floyd's ass and take drug tests... That sounds like a good decision.
Floyd leaving $100MM on the table for a fighter he can supposedly dominate sounds better?
Ya'll trippin. You don't pass up EASY money. Floyd clearly sees shit MOST people don't see. That's why he's successful. The question is easy...WTF does Floyd see that most of his "fans" clearly don't? He clearly ain't rushing to collect that $100MM plus check is he?I dont think pacman is fucked as much as Arum truth be told I dont think floyd has any real beef with pac and would take care of him..
but he wants to get at bob arum goooood and rightfully so.....
Floyd leaving $100MM on the table for a fighter he can supposedly dominate sounds better?
Floyd' thought Manny was on the juice, that's why he asked for the testing. Manny on juice has KO power, Manny without juice gets KO'd.
Floyd leaving $100MM on the table for a fighter he can supposedly dominate sounds better?
He made more money fighting canelo than he ever could with Manny....and he doesn't have to rush - he's about to sit on his ass and collect 100 million right now
Nonsense and wishful thinking. What you (and it seems like everyone else) is doing is trying to avoid the obvious. If a dude can ultimately earn over $20M (more than Canelo has ever earned) after TWO losses (one brutal knockout no less) THAT MUTHAFUCKA has PPV power. Ain't NO WAY IN HELL Floyd earns LESS than $100MM fighting Pacquio. What's ironic is Manny doesn't even command the kind of guarantees Floyd gets naturally. He has to rely on PPV to make his money special. It seems a lot of brothas don't want to see Floyd collect his EASY MONEY. (Neither does Floyd and he clearly has his reasons.)
That's wishful thinking on your part. Marquez was asked about the punch he landed and HE SAID he was throwing everything he had because HE WAS ABOUT TO GET KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT. He was getting hit and still TORTURING Marquez yet YOU THINK it's because of the lack of juice...Well guess what...He's agreed to testing. WHY hasn't Floyd taken this EASY MONEY. Is that or is that NOT the logical question?
But didnt Pac leave the 100mill on the table when he refused to agree to olympic style testing??Hell fuckin' no.
Floyd didnt leave it on the table, he merely went and got it off another table. Pac can and will NEVER see that kind of payday ever again and needs May to even come close.
Menawhile Floyd has proved he is the cash cow and can make a 100mill payday off of the likes of a Canelo. Manny.... not so much. These are facts bro.
Some of y'all hate that nigga Mayweather's guts. 
They are still actually making arguments that he somehow ran from Pac or needs/needed Pac for a colossal payday. Craziness man.Some of y'all hate that nigga Mayweather's guts.
He hasn't taken the easy money because Manny wouldn't agree to testing or the percentage of payment for the fight.
If I remember the fight correctly Marquez was winning the fight schooling Manny again.
Also Floyd calls every fight EASY MONEY.
But didnt Pac leave the 100mill on the table when he refused to agree to olympic style testing??
Floyd didnt leave it on the table, he merely went and got it off another table. Pac can and will NEVER see that kind of payday ever again and needs May to even come close.
Menawhile Floyd has proved he is the cash cow and can make a 100mill payday off of the likes of a Canelo. Manny.... not so much. These are facts bro.
The answer to your question is NO. That kind of money was NEVER on table for Manny. The assertion that a guy who can earn $20MM or more per fight NEEDING ANYONE is pretty crazy...It's like Jay-Z believing it's an insult telling a dude with $20MM in the bank that he has baby money.
Street dude logic at its finest. By the way...you DO REALIZE Floyd DIDN'T make $100MM off of Canelo? Right? Your facts are WISHFUL thinking. They are what you need to believe (and it seems a LOT of folks need to believe that shit as well) to EXPLAIN the obvious.....If Manny is a CAKEWALK and is supposedly NO LONGER on the make-believe juice WHY ISN'T FLOYD TAKING THE EASY MONEY? Question asked? Answer? Crickets.
The answer to your question is NO. That kind of money was NEVER on table for Manny. The assertion that a guy who can earn $20MM or more per fight NEEDING ANYONE is pretty crazy...It's like Jay-Z believing it's an insult telling a dude with $20MM in the bank that he has baby money.
Simple. He's not relevant to anyone outside of his diehard fans.
Your eyes were deceiving you. ANY TIME the actual FIGHTER says he was on the verge of getting KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT I think it's safe to say you can BELIEVE him RIGHT? First it was drugs. Then it was venue. Then it was whatever the fuck it was....FLOYD has a MILLION and one requests for this $100MM EASY MONEY FIGHT. Concession after concession and then the gift...a guarantee of $30MM-$40MM with NO PPV revenue.
Only in our world does that make sense because far too many of us have to deal from a position of being a have-not and NEED. I tend to liken Manny's response to a dude who HAS A JOB being offered another one for a little more money that he would normally get and being told he would ALSO HAVE to kiss his employers ass. Something tells me YOU wouldn't accept THAT job so why would you think some RICH DUDE would accept bullshit terms? C'mon bruh....FLOYD is smart. Floyd KNOWS WHY he doesn't want to fight Manny and he's hoping his "fans" buy into the bullshit instead of asking the LOGICAL question....If Manny ain't shit. If he's no longer on the juice. You know your fans would LOVE to see you punch a hole in the muthafucka and you can ALSO get paid over $100MM to beat his ass WHY do you LEAVE THE EASY MONEY ON THE TABLE?
What you make means nothing. Its more about what you spend. Pac has insane expenses and spending habits. According to Freddie Roach, Pac is broke. Again, these are facts. Your opinions wont change them.
These are factual reports. His payday guarantee combined with his PPV cut is reportedly near, at or over 100million. Again, these are facts. What you are talking is biased opinion.
No crickets, its been answered over and over. You just ignore it. Manny isnt the draw. Manny refused the offer when it was on the table. May makes insane paydays with whoever he fights.
Heres a more logical question though: If you dont have anything to hide and arent on the juice, why turn down 100mill and refuse testing???
I just broke down what the PPV would have to look like for Floyd to get 100 million - that means Pac would also have to get 100 million or 80 million. The highest PPV fight ever (Oscar vs Mayweather - did 2.5) and Oscar got 52 million and Floyd got 25. Meaning both got to split 77. Can you imagine what the PPV would have to look like for both of them to get that much? The reason Floyd got 100 million for this fight is because Canelo had the story and pull - but didn't demand 50/50 - so Floyd got the bulk of the money.
In all honesty - if it was 50/50 they both would have probably gotten 60 million tops for that fight. Shit would have to be damn near 4 million ppv at 70 a pop to get 100 million. Not gonna happen - no one is able to explain how floyd could get 100 million. The fighters usually get 50% to 55% of the gross. 3 million at 70 is 210 milllion. Add $90 million in outside revenue and they both would get 75 million.
Floyd played the game - stuck to his guns and had a vision. Allowed Canelo to be on hsi undercard, helped build him up and then cashed in on his ass for a record pay day. What's crazier - he waited until he got a higher percentage of PPV with showtime so he could get even more. He is about to make more in two fights than Pac has made in like 6.
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While I appreciate the effort the question is does it matter? We could get lost in the whole $100MM number because it's an insane amount of money. No matter how you slice it the fact is Manny versus Floyd would be BIGGER. Floyd easily defeated Canelo and had not problems taking that EASY MONEY. Ain't no way a Canelo vs. Floyd fight generates more than Manny. That's just common sense....So again....Why leave that kind of money on the table?
Picasso said:So he chose not to make 15 million dollars more than his entire net worth because he didn't want to kiss Floyd's ass and take drug tests... That sounds like a good decision.
You are speaking from the perspective of someone who probably doesn't have a net worth of $85 million...and, if I may be so bold, a million bucks would be a life changing occasion.
Pacqiauo said it best when he talked to Stephen A. Smith on the phone and told him that once he agreed to all the testing, a 55/45 split...Mayweather replied, "But what if I lose?"
Pacman...pocket your $30 million from the Rios fight, and go back to being a senator in your country. Leave Mayweather out here with Scrappy's baby momma.
Your eyes were deceiving you. ANY TIME the actual FIGHTER says he was on the verge of getting KNOCKED THE FUCK OUT I think it's safe to say you can BELIEVE him RIGHT? First it was drugs. Then it was venue. Then it was whatever the fuck it was....FLOYD has a MILLION and one requests for this $100MM EASY MONEY FIGHT. Concession after concession and then the gift...a guarantee of $30MM-$40MM with NO PPV revenue.
FLOYD is smart. Floyd KNOWS WHY he doesn't want to fight Manny and he's hoping his "fans" buy into the bullshit instead of asking the LOGICAL question....If Manny ain't shit. If he's no longer on the juice. You know your fans would LOVE to see you punch a hole in the muthafucka and you can ALSO get paid over $100MM to beat his ass WHY do you LEAVE THE EASY MONEY ON THE TABLE?
You are getting it wrong - Manny made the venue request and the unprecedented 10 million per pound over the WW limit. These are requests. Arum wanted to build a new stadium for the fight.
AND LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT Manny having to heal depending on when Mayweather went to jail.
Here I'll let this link explain it: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7433886/blame-bob-arum-no-manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-fight
What you make means nothing. Its more about what you spend. Pac has insane expenses and spending habits. According to Freddie Roach, Pac is broke. Again, these are facts. Your opinions wont change them.
These are factual reports. His payday guarantee combined with his PPV cut is reportedly near, at or over 100million. Again, these are facts. What you are talking is biased opinion.
No crickets, its been answered over and over. You just ignore it. Manny isnt the draw. Manny refused the offer when it was on the table. May makes insane paydays with whoever he fights.
Heres a more logical question though: If you dont have anything to hide and arent on the juice, why turn down 100mill and refuse testing???
It's been answered INCORRECTLY and that's why I ignore it. As far as your question. If you don't have much (including integrity) you will pretty much accept ANYTHING. Why would anyone sign an agreement to line the pocket of a muthafucka who accused him of cheating ESPECIALLY when he's rich? This is like an human resources lesson...Dude needs a job. Needs a job fuckin' BAD. Get's a job offer BELOW his market value and decides to take it because of NEED. He fails to negotiate his worth and is NEVER on par with his peers because he allowed his NEED to dictate his worth. Shit happens everyday. It doesn't happen as much among rich muthafuckas because they have the luxury of PRIDE.
I'm gonna drop this for you: shit is brutal man for ya boy. Arum and Roach were talking cash shit, catchweights, fighting at 140 - everything. Mayweather had some fuck ups to - but this looks bad (and its unbiased with links)
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/mayweather-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-1.html
Take this one with you as well
http://www.fighthype.com/pages/mayweather-pacquiao-negotiations-timeline-1.html
Because he didn't leave money on the table..lol. Bigger fight - probably, less money made becuase of the split. 50/50 looks different than 80/20. It definitely would generate more money for mayweather than a pacquaio fight.
Point in case - Floyd vs Canelo generated maybe $15 million more in PPV than Oscar vs Floyd. Oscar made 52 million - FLoyd is probably going to see 90 to 100 million.
Why are people talking as if Pac beating Rios means anything? Marquez took that man's head off and he isn't giving that clown a rematch so it's over. Shit Rios, might fuck around and beat Manny if he is really off the juice.
So Manny has integrity for turning down 100mill that he can never make back because hes offended someone accused him of cheating (even though testing would have cleared his name).
Yet Floyd is "scared" because he "turned down" 100mill when a guy suspected of cheating refuses to be tested olympic style (even though Floyd continues to prove he can get that money elsewhere)?
Do you not see the idiocy in your "logic"? You make absolutely no fucking sense. And it makes even less sense when we consider Floyd is still seeing similar paydays while Manny struggles to see 20-30million paydays and is rumored to be broke because of his spending habits, debt, Bob Arum, and entourage.
You sound silly as fuck bro.
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