I give pac possibly 4 rounds, no more. Marquez countered and right hooked pac to death. By the ninth and tenth it was clear that if pac didn't score a ko, he was going to lose by decision
Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez..Predictions and Streams
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I give pac possibly 4 rounds, no more. Marquez countered and right hooked pac to death. By the ninth and tenth it was clear that if pac didn't score a ko, he was going to lose by decision
That was mad gay of you.
But then again, that pic of you on the couch ...
damn
Only on BGOL would me saying I'd put my dick in ya girl asshole be "gay" but godofwine posting tranny porn is fine as long as he does it on gay messageboards and not here...no wonder your logic is flawed in this thread...fuckin idiot
That was mad gay of you.
But then again, that pic of you on the couch ...
damn
Oh wait...hold up...you thought you was the bitch...!????
If you were to actually watch the fight again and do the scoring round by round, you might be surprised at the result. There were a couple even rounds in there.
manny said it the best
"its up to my promoter bob arum"
bradley coming in march
"manny is a much different fight now than he was back in 08" lmao
Thats bullshit son.
I watched the fight, scored it round by round and had Marquez winning easily.
In fact I gave Marquez 4 of the first 6 rounds. I thought Pac only won rounds one and six.
I agree that this is one of the keys to beating Pacquiao. But i also think that Pacquiao has to respond appropriately when a fighter moves this way. In this fight, Pacquiao was so anxious to KO Marquez he chased Marquez moving left so he could have an angle to land his straight left. If Pacquiao consistenly moved to his right instead, he would have sacrificed landing his powerful straight left (at least initially), but he would be able to land his right jab without getting easily countered (Pac would only have to check for Juan's counter left hook, Marquez would have to reach way to far and across his body to land the counter right.)
After putting in four rounds of out jabbing Marquez, Marquez may have been forced to become more aggressive, stop retreating and turning left and Pacquiao could have started landing his straight left.
Watching the fight again, and almost every time Pacquiao moves off to his right (Marquez's left) he wasn't touched.
Oh wait...hold up...you thought you was the bitch...!????
Nope. Just like I know I'm not into male fellatio
go read your original post you purple smurf
it read, and I quote, "your bitch asshole"
you meant to say your bitch's asshole. but your homo fanatsy would not alow that.
And to think, you teach kids
No wonder of education system is gay/fuckedplease refrain from typing to me until you quit your gayness/faginess/whatever you guys call it.
Pacquiao didn't even believe that shit. He thought he lost the fight.
I guess he doesn't need power pellets (as Floyd would say) anymore he's got the judges juicing fights for him now.
Oh ok so you KNEW I was referring to your bitch but you went ahead and said some gay shit anyway...I see
Nope. Just like I know I'm not into male fellatio
go read your original post you purple smurf
it read, and I quote, "your bitch asshole"
you meant to say your bitch's asshole. but your homo fanatsy would not alow that.
And to think, you teach kids
please refrain from typing to me until you quit your gayness/faginess/whatever you guys call it.
@ the scrolling excuses...this was a major fight that exposed Manny and boxing...I don't understand why dumb idiots is geeked up to be talking about Packiow/Mayweather after this bullshit fight...the shit is fake
Same reason they gave him props for a wack performance against shane...
Amir khan didn't whip Pacman ass He was helping pacman with his defense, believe me, this is done in the boxing gym all the time. For example, the first 3 rounds your trainer might tell you to throw nothing but jabs and body punches. Than the later rounds, he might tell you to don't throw any punches and move away from punches to help your footwork and defense...etc
I'm wondering if I saw a different fight then some of you guys did because you'll are talking landslide victory for Marquez. However, I'm having a hard time finding any news sources to support that. Most say a draw.
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-iole_pacquiao_marquez_decision_111211
Judge Robert Hoyle had it a draw, 114-114, as did Yahoo! Sports. But judge Dave Moretti favored Pacquiao 115-113 and Glenn Trowbridge had Pacquiao winning 116-112.
Same reason they gave him props for a wack performance against shane...
I don't even remember that fight...doesn't matter now...dude is crossed off my list...I will not watch another fight of his again
And niggas said Manny evolved....Motherfuckers don't know shit about boxing...
On the feeds we saw, it really looked like Marquez whipped him. It really does seem to be two different fights from what I am reading on some of these sites.
That does make a lot of sense
What does that mean?
I should adjust what I saw and change my opinion because of what someone else said they saw?
Look at the reaction in this thread and throughout the internet at various sights they saw the same shit I saw.
Matter of fact watch the UK feed of the fight posted here, listen to what Freddie Roach was saying to his fighter as early as the 7th round, listen to the commentators including Manny's stable mate Amir Khan trying their hardest to give the fight to Manny only to finally have to concede he lost, with his co-commentator giving Marquez credit for a virtuoso performance.
Look at the body language at the end of the fight where Manny, a usually animated fighter after fights, went to his corner without raising his hands, dropped to his knees and prayed. No one in his corner told him he won the fight or congratulated him, they just simply consoled him.
Listen to the majority of the crowd booing angrily at the decision.
No "experts" are going to tell me what I saw. I've been a big boxing fan since a child, I know the sport, know the rules, know how to judge and look at a fight to determine a winner and I can say without even a tiny bit of doubt that Manny Pacquiao not only lost tonight but he got schooled and exposed.
And to be clear I'm not one of these Floyd Mayweather/ Manny Pacquiao stans that flood the board. I'm not saying this because of some hatred for Manny or getting caught up in that silly Floyd vs. Manny bullshit. I could give a fuck about either of them but truth is the truth.
Motherfuckers don't know shit about boxing...
Basically......
Manny's legs always cramp when he has a poor performance and thats not even a joke
Motherfuckers don't know shit about boxing...
BTW Manny did evolve.
He evolved to become a huge draw, one of the biggest in the sport. Once that happens you evolve, in the eyes of the media and people who sell you, into an unstoppable freak of nature without a flaw to be seen who can stop speeding locomotives with one straight left
I know that shit is crazy. Must have looked different from ringside because there is no way we all watched the same fight.
You know what this was? Pacquiao's camp game plan to play a conservative fight, similar to a Mayweather fight, which ain't Pacquiao's style. Trying to demonstrate that Pac can win like Mayweather. That's why Pac looked strange and by the end of the fight he thought the experiment failed.
Is this sarcasm?You know what this was? Pacquiao's camp game plan to play a conservative fight, similar to a Mayweather fight, which ain't Pacquiao's style. Trying to demonstrate that Pac can win like Mayweather. That's why Pac looked strange and by the end of the fight he thought the experiment failed.
BTW Manny did evolve.
He evolved to become a huge draw, one of the biggest in the sport. Once that happens you evolve, in the eyes of the media and people who sell you, into an unstoppable freak of nature without a flaw to be seen who can stop speeding locomotives with one straight left
He evolved into a cautious boxer which prevented him from getting rocked all around the ring as much as the previous fight and it also prevented him from catching Marquez off guard.
Anyone who was saying he evolved into a better boxer doesn't have valid point of view. They were either bias or don't know shit.
The last part is but I think that's what they wanted to do.
In the same way the Ortiz fight was a demonstration in showing Mayweather can handle a south paw in Ortiz.
My nig was at the fight and said even one of Pac's training partners had pac losing.
BS there was no experiment.
Man so many people have JMM winning and dominating its crazy.
And they say punch stat #'s favor Pac
I just don't see it.As one of the UK in studio analysts said I believe Pac's star power and how people view him pulled this fight out for him because I and a lot of people saw a straight clinic put on by Marquez.
Man so many people have JMM winning and dominating its crazy.
And they say punch stat #'s favor Pac
As one of the UK in studio analysts said I believe Pac's star power and how people view him pulled this fight out for him because I and a lot of people saw a straight clinic put on by Marquez.
Its gonna be interesting hearing from the Pacman defenders from here on out.
Manny has been winning his fights lately by showing speed, and unpredictable angles, not skill. That worked against fighters that were past there prime, or ones who tried to trade with Pac.
But if a fighter survives the initial shock of Pcman, then skillfully counterpunches him, Pac is toast.
FYI Pac got beat up and schooled last night. Even the people who think he won know that. Almost all the meaningful punches were landed ON Pac. I had Pac winning 3 rounds, and one even. I was heer laughing with friends when I'd see Harold Letterman giving Pacman every round where he didn't get his head cracked, even though he did absolutely nothing.
But if a fighter survives the initial shock of Pcman, then skillfully counterpunches him, Pac is toast.
FYI Pac got beat up and schooled last night. Even the people who think he won know that. Almost all the meaningful punches were landed ON Pac. I had Pac winning 3 rounds, and one even. I was heer laughing with friends when I'd see Harold Letterman giving Pacman every round where he didn't get his head cracked, even though he did absolutely nothing.
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I'll watch that boxing clinic again tonight
That was beautiful boxing.
That was beautiful boxing.
Its gonna be interesting hearing from the Pacman defenders from here on out.
Can't wait till PBF drops his take of the fight...I wonder if he will taunt him and say what everyone knows. Props to JMM and if i were him i wouldn't take the rematch.
@ the clowns even thinking Pac and May are in the same class
Yep. His corner probably shouldnt have told him he had the fight won....because losing the last round on the scorecards is what lost it for him. For the last round, he probably should have come out of counterpunching mode and been a bit more aggressive to seal the deal.....because he of all people should have known that leaving anything on the table would give the judges a chance to steal it from him again.
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