Pacquaio lost $100 mil by not fighting Mayweather in 2010

[HeathCliff]

So Manny has integrity for turning down 100mill that he can never make back because hes offended someone accused him of cheating (even though testing would have cleared his name).

Yet Floyd is "scared" because he "turned down" 100mill when a guy suspected of cheating refuses to be tested olympic style (even though Floyd continues to prove he can get that money elsewhere)?

Do you not see the idiocy in your "logic"? You make absolutely no fucking sense. And it makes even less sense when we consider Floyd is still seeing similar paydays while Manny struggles to see 20-30million paydays and is rumored to be broke because of his spending habits, debt, Bob Arum, and entourage.

You sound silly as fuck bro.

Hilarious

 

[PDQ21]

"Can you hear me now?"

 

[Lower9Nupe]

So Manny has integrity for turning down 100mill that he can never make back because hes offended someone accused him of cheating (even though testing would have cleared his name).

Yet Floyd is "scared" because he "turned down" 100mill when a guy suspected of cheating refuses to be tested olympic style (even though Floyd continues to prove he can get that money elsewhere)?

Do you not see the idiocy in your "logic"? You make absolutely no fucking sense. And it makes even less sense when we consider Floyd is still seeing similar paydays while Manny struggles to see 20-30million paydays and is rumored to be broke because of his spending habits, debt, Bob Arum, and entourage.

You sound silly as fuck bro.

I'm silly yet you're spouting off about Manny turning down $100MM when that was NEVER on the table. When you start an argument without the RIGHT information you sound stupid as fuck but I will allow it. Let's be clear....Telling someone their argument doesn't make sense because YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND it isn't a good look and it sure as hell doesn't qualify as a good defense. Add the fact that you can actually use the word "struggle" when describing an individual who is capable of earning $20-$30MM in one NIGHT pretty much sums out you're "ability" to judge the intellect of others.

The fact is you don't have an answer why Floyd (who can supposedly walk this little dude from here to the ends of the Earth) doesn't want any part of a SUPPOSEDLY EASY PAYDAY. All those other excuses (PEDs, forced dates, venue, etc.) are just that excuses.

 

[Lower9Nupe]

Why are people talking as if Pac beating Rios means anything? Marquez took that man's head off and he isn't giving that clown a rematch so it's over. Shit Rios, might fuck around and beat Manny if he is really off the juice.

Maybe it's because most boxing fans who saw the fight saw Manny walk into a punch and get knocked out. You know...the kind of muthafuckas who saw Lennox Lewis get knocked out twice yet are smart enough to realize he was still bad muthafucka. Right? Or is this one of those occasions where we CHANGE our rationale because even with those losses he's still considered a threat to the hero of a few men.

 

[Bigskinn2]

Manny Pacquiao Lost $100 Million By Not Fighting Floyd Mayweather


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A few years back Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao were negotiating terms of a fight that would could have been the most lucrative boxing match of all time. It never happened because Pacquiao would not agree to Olympic-style drug testing.
GENERAL SANTOS, PHILIPPINES - SEPTEMBER 27: Manny Pacquiao Manny Pacquiao in seen during a training session at Golingan Gymnasium on September 27, 2012 in General Santos, Philippines. Pacquiao will take on Mexican Juan Manual Marquez on December 8, 2012 in Las Vegas. (Image credit: Getty Images via @daylife)


Pacquiao’s decision cost him dearly.
Showtime Networks announced Thursday that the previous Saturday’s fight between Mayweather and Saul “Canelo” Alvarez generated a record $150 million in pay-per-view revenue, breaking the record of $136 million for Mayweather’s 2007 fight against Oscar De La Hoya. The Mayweather-Canelo fight at the MGM Grand Arena also set a record for largest gate for a boxing match at ($20 million) and and Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, says the fight will exceed $200 million in total revenue when all revenue streams are counted.
Three years ago the split between Mayweather and Pacquiao would have been roughly 50-50 for a fight that would have grossed an estimated $200 million to $250 million.
<aside class="vestpocket" data-position="6" style=""> Floyd Mayweather Jr. on the Forbes 400? Maybe Someday.
</aside>Since then, Mayweather has remained undefeated by beating Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz with a controversial knockout, Miguel Cotto, Robert Guerrero, and Alvarez. Meanwhile, Pacquiao defeated Jaun Manuel Marquez, but then lost to Timothy Bradley in a controversial decision, and got knocked out in his rematch with Marquez.
Pacquiao has never come close to earning what he could have made fighting Mayweather. His biggest payday: $25 million for his last Marquez bout. And Pacquiao’s brand has taken a hit with his recent losses. He is guaranteed to earn just $18 million from his next fight in November against Brandon Rios.
There have been some recent rumblings again recently, like there were in 2012, of Mayweather fighting Pacquiao. Mayweather recently told the Wall Street Journal he would consider such a bout if Pacquiao signed a promotions contract with Mayweather’s company. Who knows? What we do know is Pacquiao has already lost out on one $100 million payday.

Fuck bitch azz pac !! .. Sincerly emanual stewart

 

[Lower9Nupe]

Because he didn't leave money on the table..lol. Bigger fight - probably, less money made becuase of the split. 50/50 looks different than 80/20. It definitely would generate more money for mayweather than a pacquaio fight.

Point in case - Floyd vs Canelo generated maybe $15 million more in PPV than Oscar vs Floyd. Oscar made 52 million - FLoyd is probably going to see 90 to 100 million.

You do realize that the PPV numbers for Floyd and Oscar were because of Oscar and NOT Floyd? Since then Floyd has obviously become a PPV draw. Should we PRETEND (because that's what it's going to take) that Pac didn't earn his PPV numbers by killing muthafuckas who actually had resumes in the ring? C'mon man...ya'll reaching your asses off trying to EXPLAIN something that can't be explained. You TAKE that kind of money if the dude on the other side of the ring AIN'T shit. Can't have it both ways. Either the dude ain't shit and all those knockouts were fuckin' mirages or he's a good fighter who clearly still commands interest. Getting $20-$30MM for a fight pretty much gives you your answer.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

The delusion and denial is deep up in this bitch.

 

[Lower9Nupe]

You are getting it wrong - Manny made the venue request and the unprecedented 10 million per pound over the WW limit. These are requests. Arum wanted to build a new stadium for the fight.

AND LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT Manny having to heal depending on when Mayweather went to jail.

Here I'll let this link explain it: http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7433886/blame-bob-arum-no-manny-pacquiao-floyd-mayweather-fight

I remember all of that shit and that still doesn't address the obvious question....If Floyd was a killer in the ring and willing to trade (like Marquez) he'd knock Pac the fuck out in three. The problem is he ISN'T. While he wins fights because dudes don't throw enough punches or run out of gas he KNEW and KNOWS that won't happen with Manny. It will go to the judges and the judges would have to decide which "style" won more rounds. Floyd's defense and ring generalship versus the perpetual aggressive energizer bunny shit that Pac brings to the table. While all you dudes think it's OBVIOUS I argue Floyd is smarter than all of you and knows that shit is a toss up and isn't going to have any part of that shit. The fight will never happen. The could guarantee Floyd $100MM and he won't take it. Yeah I know...Floyd stans are going to call blasphemy. Fuck 'em.

 

[Lower9Nupe]

The delusion and denial is deep up in this bitch.

So says once of BGOL's smarter posters.

 

[Spectrum]

.If Floyd was a killer in the ring and willing to trade (like Marquez) he'd knock Pac the fuck out in three:

Marquez is a defensive-minded counterpuncher. He's not a brawler. He doesn't sit and trade punches with fighters. Also, considering he's a bit slower, it's more difficult for him to stick and move. You should have used a different example. That's probably the worst one you could have used. Furthermore, Marquez KOd Pacman with the same punch that Floyd KOd Hatton with (just with a different hand).

It would make no sense for Floyd to trade punches with a brawler who is an average "boxer". He would just outbox him.

It's kind of stupid to sell a boxer of Floyd's caliber as afraid of Pacman at this point. He lost to an average Bradly and got KOd by Marquez (who in my opinion who had already beaten him two other times before anyway).

In my opinion, take Arum out of the picture and this fight would have happened. I don't think Pacman was scared by bullshitting on the blood tests either and there is ample reason to make that argument. I think he had bad counseling (Arum). Arum has a history with Floyd and they'll also have problems.

People like you used to pitch that Floyd was scared of Cotto. As soon as he got away from Top Rank, the fight with Floyd was made.

It's really silly to pitch Floyd as "scared" of Pacman.

 

[unknownsoldier]

Marquez is a defensive-minded counterpuncher. He's not a brawler. He doesn't sit and trade punches with fighters. Also, considering he's a bit slower, it's more difficult for him to stick and move. You should have used a different example. That's probably the worst one you could have used. Furthermore, Marquez KOd Pacman with the same punch that Floyd KOd Hatton with (just with a different hand).

It would make no sense for Floyd to trade punches with a brawler who is an average "boxer". He would just outbox him.

It's kind of stupid to sell a boxer of Floyd's caliber as afraid of Pacman at this point. He lost to an average Bradly and got KOd by Marquez (who in my opinion who had already beaten him two other times before anyway).

In my opinion, take Arum out of the picture and this fight would have happened. I don't think Pacman was scared by bullshitting on the blood tests either and there is ample reason to make that argument. I think he had bad counseling (Arum). Arum has a history with Floyd and they'll also have problems.

People like you used to pitch that Floyd was scared of Cotto. As soon as he got away from Top Rank, the fight with Floyd was made.

It's really silly to pitch Floyd as "scared" of Pacman.

 

[Spectrum]

The last two years have illustrated that Floyd understood his position. He is the MUCH bigger draw than Pacquiao and things will be done on his terms. He also made no unreasonable offers to Pacquiao.

This was more of a battle between Arum and Pacquiao over "control" and ego. Arum can stand that Floyd left him and became one of the biggest draws in the history of the sport. The only "scared" talk that has ever been associated with Floyd has been with Top Rank fighters because Arum doesn't want to do deals with Floyd. People use to say the same shit about Cotto. As soon as he got away from Top Rank... deal done and floyd went UP in weight to fight him.

Floyd is the highest earning ATHLETE in the entire world(not just fighter). People are smoking that good dope if they think he's going to do business on someone else's terms when he clearly doesn't have to.

i would be willing to bet anything if Pacquiao could get away from Top Rank, he would have a fight deal with Mayweather.

Floyd is going to make 80 million on his latest fight. He doesn't need Arum or Pacquiao. They need Floyd to even remotely do anything near those types of numbers.

No one even gives a shit about this fight with Rios.

 

[Ninja05]

You do realize that the PPV numbers for Floyd and Oscar were because of Oscar and NOT Floyd? Since then Floyd has obviously become a PPV draw. Should we PRETEND (because that's what it's going to take) that Pac didn't earn his PPV numbers by killing muthafuckas who actually had resumes in the ring? C'mon man...ya'll reaching your asses off trying to EXPLAIN something that can't be explained. You TAKE that kind of money if the dude on the other side of the ring AIN'T shit. Can't have it both ways. Either the dude ain't shit and all those knockouts were fuckin' mirages or he's a good fighter who clearly still commands interest. Getting $20-$30MM for a fight pretty much gives you your answer.

I have no idea what you are trying to say...I stand by my original statement playa...Mayweather made more money off this fight than he ever could with a Pacquaio fight. Why?

Because Pacquaio demands more money (% split) which overwhelms any increases in PPV revenue. Once again I have already shown you why they would need to hit 4 million ppv to even get close to hitting 100 million each. Of course Pacquaio is a draw...lol. That's not a problem - the problem is - does he realize he has lost his luster and needs to take a 70-30 split or 65/35

Finally - Pacquaio is a great fight - that's not even an issue. It's just that his last three fights has gone like this:

- Controversial win against Marquez
- Controversial loss to Bradley
- Knocked the fuck out after a good fight

It would be very interesting to see Floyd vs Pac. Pac just needs to realize that he can't fight Mayweather unless he humbles himself and takes a significantly lower percentage.

 

[Spectrum]

It would be very interesting to see Floyd vs Pac. Pac just needs to realize that he can't fight Mayweather unless he humbles himself and takes a significantly lower percentage.

I agree, but I think this has even more to do with Arum than Pac. If Arum doesnt "like" a deal for whatever reason, he's not going to make a deal. He's done this for years with Floyd. Pacman is submitting to random tests now. I would wager that even that was more Arum than Pacman because it always gave Arum an out.

 

[unknownsoldier]

He also made no unreasonable offers to Pacquiao.

Floyd is the highest earning ATHLETE in the entire world(not just fighter). People are smoking that good dope if they think he's going to do business on someone else's terms when he clearly doesn't have to.

i would be willing to bet anything if Pacquiao could get away from Top Rank, he would have a fight deal with Mayweather.

That was always the thing about those threads, dudes lose their mind hating. Pac had some ridiculous demands that Floyd agreed to, but for PBF to not negotiate from his given position would be horrible business. He's always had more leverage considering he was the undefeated boxer, as I use to ask dudes...if you were Floyd, would you defy logic & sound business just to prove "I'm not ducking" to some fans who will always hate you?

Dude has proven to be a clever businessman in & out the ring, how he handled that entire situation shows that. Didn't he offer to fight Pac if he left TR & joined TMT?

 

[REDLINE]

I'm all up for hypothetical suggestions but does anyone really want to see a fight between Pac & Floyd?

 

[ShortyCumStain]

I'm all up for hypothetical suggestions but does anyone really want to see a fight between Pac & Floyd?

Personally, I really don't care at this point.

 

[D-TOWN REP]

I'm all up for hypothetical suggestions but does anyone really want to see a fight between Pac & Floyd?

I still want to see it

Plenty of people still want to see it and would buy it

Floyd need to whoop his ass once and for all and end all of this and make record breaking money again to top it all off

 

[Alaskanredman]

Maybe it's because most boxing fans who saw the fight saw Manny walk into a punch and get knocked out. You know...the kind of muthafuckas who saw Lennox Lewis get knocked out twice yet are smart enough to realize he was still bad muthafucka.

These same fans also seen Marquez out box Pac every single time they fought and also land the same punch that dropped Pac several times.

Right? Or is this one of those occasions where we CHANGE our rationale because even with those losses he's still considered a threat to the hero of a few men.

I haven't changed my rational because I never thought he beat JMM.

Nor did I ever think he beat Floyd short of a lucky punch.

Pac has been on a clear decline since the Cotto fight so logic would only reaffirm that statement.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

I still want to see it

Plenty of people still want to see it and would buy it

Floyd need to whoop his ass once and for all and end all of this and make record breaking money again to top it all off

I'd save up & buy months in advance to ensure I'll have a ticket. I'd want to see him gettin' his ass beat REAL GOOD. I'd be in da audience actin' just as niggarish as hell w/a liver full of tequila.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I'm all up for hypothetical suggestions but does anyone really want to see a fight between Pac & Floyd?

I think it is pointless unless you are a deranged Pac fan or Floyd hater hoping for a miracle punch to land.

Honestly, I used to think Pac had the best chance of landing the lucky punch but we have seen lesser boxers neutralize Pac multiple times.

The only thing that will come out of the fight is people like me saying "I knew Floyd would beat him" while on the retarded side they will say "Floyd waited till Manny wasn't in his prime but Pac would have beat Floyd in that stadium that was never built."

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

I'm all up for hypothetical suggestions but does anyone really want to see a fight between Pac & Floyd?

At this point, no. After listening to BHop the idea of Floyd fighting Danny Garcia is interesting to me.

 

[Alaskanredman]

At this point, no. After listening to BHop the idea of Floyd fighting Danny Garcia is interesting to me.

Garcia... Bradley, if he can beat Marquez... The winners of Khan v Alexander and Maidana v Broner all make sense.

Pac v Rio isn't even relevant to me. Pac would have to beat one of the guys listed above just to enter the discussion again.

 

[Rollie_Fingaz]

Garcia... Bradley, if he can beat Marquez... The winners of Khan v Alexander and Maidana v Broner all make sense.

Pac v Rio isn't even relevant to me. Pac would have to beat one of the guys listed above just to enter the discussion again.

I can't see Bradley fighting Floyd.

If Pac gets past Rios I think he'll fight Bradley again and probably Maidana.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I can't see Bradley fighting Floyd.

If Pac gets past Rios I think he'll fight Bradley again and probably Maidana.

Bradley isn't marketable so any money Arum can get off of him might be appealing.

 

[PDQ21]

I'm all up for hypothetical suggestions but does anyone really want to see a fight between Pac & Floyd?

feel like I outgrew this fight

 

[HeathCliff]

I can see Floyd fighting <s>Headie Monster</s> Bradley before he fights Broner. I don't think him and Broner will ever get in the ring. Adrian has a lot to work on first.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I can see Floyd fighting <s>Headie Monster</s> Bradley before he fights Broner. I don't think him and Broner will ever get in the ring. Adrian has a lot to work on first.

I think Maidana is going to beat Broner but if Broner stays at welter and remains undefeated... I can imagine Floyd going in for the kill. I see Floyd selling it to Broner as a torch passing if they remain friendly or as apart of the game if they have a falling out. Broner has charisma, star power and can sell tickets. Floyd isn't stupid about the sport of boxing and I know he saw dollar signs when this nigga popped up but I would also bet that Floyd clearly sees a lack of discipline which makes him ripe for easy money fight instead of of trying to manage him or anything like that.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

You do realize that the PPV numbers for Floyd and Oscar were because of Oscar and NOT Floyd? Since then Floyd has obviously become a PPV draw. Should we PRETEND (because that's what it's going to take) that Pac didn't earn his PPV numbers by killing muthafuckas who actually had resumes in the ring? C'mon man...ya'll reaching your asses off trying to EXPLAIN something that can't be explained. You TAKE that kind of money if the dude on the other side of the ring AIN'T shit. Can't have it both ways. Either the dude ain't shit and all those knockouts were fuckin' mirages or he's a good fighter who clearly still commands interest. Getting $20-$30MM for a fight pretty much gives you your answer.

Bullshit from the first sentence.
Of his last two ppvs before he fought Mayweather, Oscar didn't come close to 2 million buys so it's more than fair to say the public wanted to see both fighters, not just Oscar.
Pacquiao did fight some guys with great resumes but he fought them outside their real weight class (Erik Morales) or when they were beat up and well past their primes (was the second Barrera fight even necessary?). And he stocked up on lesser lights like David Diaz, Oscar Larios, and Josh Clottey. Plus, he stays fighting guys coming off losses including his next fight with
Brandon Rios. Why not fight Alvarado since he beat Rios in their last fight?
You can not like Floyd Mayweather but don't act like Pacquiao is some magnificent warrior that was just killing this awesome competition.

I think it is pointless unless you are a deranged Pac fan or Floyd hater hoping for a miracle punch to land.

Honestly, I used to think Pac had the best chance of landing the lucky punch but we have seen lesser boxers neutralize Pac multiple times.

The only thing that will come out of the fight is people like me saying "I knew Floyd would beat him" while on the retarded side they will say "Floyd waited till Manny wasn't in his prime but Pac would have beat Floyd in that stadium that was never built."

Like they do with everyone Mayweather beats, often the very opponent they were saying he was ducking or wouldn't be able to handle.

I can't see Bradley fighting Floyd.

If Pac gets past Rios I think he'll fight Bradley again and probably Maidana.

Most likely. If Bradley loses to JMM, then we can expect them to fight again, Pac and JMM that is.

Why are people talking as if Pac beating Rios means anything? Marquez took that man's head off and he isn't giving that clown a rematch so it's over. Shit Rios, might fuck around and beat Manny if he is really off the juice.

I don't know. Rios, a good fighter, is coming off a loss and is moving up.
I'm rooting for Rios personally. I'm enjoying watching Manny and Freddie Roach's little matchup games come back to bite them in the ass. People talk about Floyd's matchmaking but when was the last time Manny fought the best available comp? Or even a top ranked opponent? I think Bradley might be the best, highest ranked guy he's fought in years and he lost. Controversially? Yes. But if a dude with a broken foot on one leg and sprained ankle on the other is still standing when the fight ends, he deserves to win because his opponent wasn't shit.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I think Maidana is going to beat Broner but if Broner stays at welter and remains undefeated... I can imagine Floyd going in for the kill. I see Floyd selling it to Broner as a torch passing if they remain friendly or as apart of the game if they have a falling out. Broner has charisma, star power and can sell tickets. Floyd isn't stupid about the sport of boxing and I know he saw dollar signs when this nigga popped up but I would also bet that Floyd clearly sees a lack of discipline which makes him ripe for easy money fight instead of of trying to manage him or anything like that.

Did you see when Broner visited Floyd's camp and had a big ass belly? Can you imagine Floyd ever letting himself get that far out of shape? Dude was taking a year off at a time and never got out of fighting shape.
He and Broner are friends but it's more likely he fights Broner than he fights Bradley because Bradley is a Arum fighter and as I've said before, Arum would rather make a nickel than split a dollar with Floyd Mayweather and/or Golden Boy.

 

[Alaskanredman]

I don't know. Rios, a good fighter, is coming off a loss and is moving up.
I'm rooting for Rios personally. I'm enjoying watching Manny and Freddie Roach's little matchup games come back to bite them in the ass. People talk about Floyd's matchmaking but when was the last time Manny fought the best available comp? Or even a top ranked opponent? I think Bradley might be the best, highest ranked guy he's fought in years and he lost. Controversially? Yes. But if a dude with a broken foot on one leg and sprained ankle on the other is still standing when the fight ends, he deserves to win because his opponent wasn't shit.

I'm not a Rios fan but being objective dude just lost and is from a lower weight class. I consider this a tune up for Pac, not some stepping stone to a big fight. Unless he beats the breaks off of one of the people that are really in the mix, I view this as Pac's retirement tour.

I think Bradley loss to Pac, but if there is a better sign of Pac's decline and that PAC can't beat Mayweather... I don't know what it could be. Pac couldn't put away a legless man that he already rocked up. Pac didn't even dominate the fight. If legless, flawed boxer can hold his own... How can any rational person think Floyd could possibly lose?

 

[Alaskanredman]

Did you see when Broner visited Floyd's camp and had a big ass belly? Can you imagine Floyd ever letting himself get that far out of shape? Dude was taking a year off at a time and never got out of fighting shape.
He and Broner are friends but it's more likely he fights Broner than he fights Bradley because Bradley is a Arum fighter and as I've said before, Arum would rather make a nickel than split a dollar with Floyd Mayweather and/or Golden Boy.

I saw that shit. Broner mimics the wrong elements of Floyd. He has the cocky character part down but Floyd backs it up with discipline. Floyd eats fatty foods to maintain his weight because he burns ridiculous calories. I wouldn't be surprised if he can go back down to 140 with ease.

Broner's defense looks similar to Floyd but is weak as hell in comparison. I think he will fuck around and get that wake up call when Maidana drags him into a war.

 

[PDQ21]

i don't see any money in Floyd fighting Bradley

I don't think JMM will ever fight Pacman again

Floyd n B.Hop are very disciplined fighters no way they'd ever let themselves go like Broner overrated ass did

If Gracia was alil bigger that would b the Floyds obvious next opponent bottomline he has to fight sumbody tho around Cinco De Mayo so why not Gracia

 

[Alaskanredman]

i don't see any money in Floyd fighting Bradley

I don't think JMM will ever fight Pacman again

Floyd n B.Hop are very disciplined fighters no way they'd ever let themselves go like Broner overrated ass did

If Gracia was alil bigger that would b the Floyds obvious next opponent bottomline he has to fight sumbody tho around Cinco De Mayo so why not Gracia

Floyd is really the draw in all these fights. If Bradley beats JMM convincingly... then it makes enough sense to tune in to watch Floyd work. There aren't any real money fights that make sense right now anyways.

Garcia isn't that far from welter.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

I saw that shit. Broner mimics the wrong elements of Floyd. He has the cocky character part down but Floyd backs it up with discipline. Floyd eats fatty foods to maintain his weight because he burns ridiculous calories. I wouldn't be surprised if he can go back down to 140 with ease.

Broner's defense looks similar to Floyd but is weak as hell in comparison. I think he will fuck around and get that wake up call when Maidana drags him into a war.

Exactly. He's got a wake up call coming.

i don't see any money in Floyd fighting Bradley

I don't think JMM will ever fight Pacman again

Floyd n B.Hop are very disciplined fighters no way they'd ever let themselves go like Broner overrated ass did

If Gracia was alil bigger that would b the Floyds obvious next opponent bottomline he has to fight sumbody tho around Cinco De Mayo so why not Gracia

If it's not Garcia, I'd be surprised. I don't see anyone else left that's a makeable fight.