Why Aren't More Young Brothers Into Mathmatics?
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Most are scared of it. Teachers rarely makes the connection of mathematical logic to real life. It can be truly uninspiring if not made fun to do because most do not see the point of it.
You should see some of these so called "tough" female/male students talking big until you place they ass on front street in front of the class trying to work out a problem. Its sad man. I have the hardest time getting students to practice independently. Some truly don't care no matter how hard you encourage them...
You should see some of these so called "tough" female/male students talking big until you place they ass on front street in front of the class trying to work out a problem. Its sad man. I have the hardest time getting students to practice independently. Some truly don't care no matter how hard you encourage them...
same here.......I recently went back to college(yes in my mid 30's, but that's another story) and I'm getting a Computer Science BA, Mathematics Minor.............
I have never found math to be hard, numbers are numbers.....there aren't verbs, nouns, adjectives, past, present, past participle.....none of that bullshit..........the numbers are there, they are what they are, work out the math and you will always get to the right answer
Hard Work! Plain and Simple.
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The one thing 14-year-old Moshe Kai Cavalin dislikes is being called a genius.
All he did, after all, was enroll in college at age 8 and earn his first of two Associate of Arts degrees from East Los Angeles Community College in 2009 at age 11, graduating with a perfect 4.0 grade point average.
Now, at 14, he's poised to graduate from UCLA this year. He's also just published an English edition of his first book, "We Can Do."
The 100-page guideline explains how other young people can accomplish what Cavalin did through such simple acts as keeping themselves focused and approaching everything with total commitment. He's hoping it will show people there's no genius involved, just hard work.
"That's always the question that bothers me," Cavalin, who turned 14 on Tuesday, says when the G-word is raised. "People need to know you don't really need to be a genius. You just have to work hard and you can accomplish anything."
And maybe cut out some of the TV.
Although he's a big fan of Jackie Chan movies, Cavalin says he limits his television time to four hours a week.
Not that he lacks for recreational activities or feels that his parents pressured him into studying constantly. He writes in "We Can Do" of learning to scuba dive, and he loves soccer and martial arts. He used to participate in the latter sport when he was younger, winning trophies for his age group, until his UCLA studies and his writing made things a little too hectic.
Indeed one of the key messages of his book is to stay focused and to not take on any endeavor half-heartedly.
"I was able to reach the stars, but others can reach the 'Milky Way," he tells readers.
It was a professor at his first institution of higher learning, East Los Angeles City College, who inspired him, Cavalin says. He didn't like the subject but managed to get an A in it anyway, by applying himself and seeing how enthusiastic his teacher, Richard Avila, was about the subject.
Avila, he says, inspired him to write a book explaining his methods for success so he could motivate others.
It took four years to finish, in part because Cavalin, whose mother is Chinese, decided to publish it in Mandarin, and doing the translation himself was laborious.
Han Shian Culture Publishing of Taiwan put the book in print, and it did well in Taiwan, Singapore and Malaysia, as well as in several bookstores in Southern California's Asian communities. He then brought it out in English for the U.S. market.
Because of his heavy study load, Cavalin has had little opportunity to promote the book, other than a signing at UCLA, where he also lives in student housing with his parents and attends the school on a scholarship.
After earning his bachelor's degree, the math major plans to enroll in graduate school with hopes of eventually earning a degree.
After that, he's not so sure. He points out that he's still just barely a teenager.
"Who knows?" he says, chuckling at the thought of what lies ahead in adulthood. "That's a very distant future, and I'm pretty much planning for just the next few years. That's too far into the future for me to see."
they need a foot put in their asses and learn responsibility at a young age. stop giving everything to kids and make them earn it. i have a bs is math. my prime motivation was to get the hell out of the hood and not stuggle the way my mom did. well i'm living better but i'm struggling just as hard as she did to maintain. i wouldn't change that though because my children see that and they will learn.
Maybe, because we should 1st start with mastering the english language...i.e. learning how spell mathEmatics correctly...
And, to answer the OP's question, unless you're an Engineer or something, it's useless to know fucking Calculus, and even Algebra because you will never use it...
And, to answer the OP's question, unless you're an Engineer or something, it's useless to know fucking Calculus, and even Algebra because you will never use it...
shit. I got. My son doing great. In math he's in the 4th grade and his test scores were in the 95 percentile of the state so I just got to keep him focused and he should be good
chip off thee ol block if I say
and I think parents should be more hands on with their kids school work in our community
most of the time parents talk shit when a child brings home bad grades like its the teachers fault but in realty its their own
for not being their to help their child do better
chip off thee ol block if I say
and I think parents should be more hands on with their kids school work in our community
most of the time parents talk shit when a child brings home bad grades like its the teachers fault but in realty its their own
for not being their to help their child do better
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Maybe, because we should 1st start with mastering the english language...i.e. learning how spell mathEmatics correctly...
And, to answer the OP's question, unless you're an Engineer or something, it's useless to know fucking Calculus, and even Algebra because you will never use it...
that's the thinking I deal with on the regular basis....Come on bruh, mathematics is the language of the universe. Its a direct correlation to logic, reasoning and rationality. It provides order and foundation to human survival. Don't be so narrow minded on its capabilities.....
Maybe, because we should 1st start with mastering the english language...i.e. learning how spell mathEmatics correctly...
And, to answer the OP's question, unless you're an Engineer or something, it's useless to know fucking Calculus, and even Algebra because you will never use it...
All calculus is applicable in real life. Differential equations is another story.
among other reasons, I can honestly say that everyone isn't a math person. I'm reasonably intelligent, hard studying, etc... but I'll never be a math person. Given a good teacher and/or tutor, or enough time to sit and study it on my own, I can learn it, but I'll never be a math head; it's just not my lot in life, although I wish it was. So I can learn it, but I could never be "into it". Shit makes my head throb.
shit. I got. My son doing great. In math he's in the 4th grade and his test scores were in the 95 percentile of the state so I just got to keep him focused and he should be good
chip off thee ol block if I say
and I think parents should be more hands on with their kids school work in our community
most of the time parents talk shit when a child brings home bad grades like its the teachers fault but in realty its their own
for not being their to help their child do better
He is already better than 50% of the students at my university. real talk
Maybe, because we should 1st start with mastering the english language...i.e. learning how spell mathEmatics correctly...
And, to answer the OP's question, unless you're an Engineer or something, it's useless to know fucking Calculus, and even Algebra because you will never use it...
so in your simplistic mind, a typo is tantamount to not mastering the english language?
and u can't BECOME an engineer w/o going to college first, which is what that immigrant kid is doing. and what tha fuk does that have to do with the thread topic anyway? dayum, some of u mutha fukas have the most difficult time following a thread topic or even using basic logic. idiotic mutha fukas
Diff EQ IS calculus. Its mainly used in science especially physics based sciences.
But in regular life?
What he said. But it's a very sad thing. But kids have to be taught things 1st. Parents are failing their kids, it's that simple. And in some cases the parent's parents have failed them.
I could go on and on
1) Lack of role models. The most prominent Black Mathematicians are not well known (may be due to the subject more than any conspiracy)
2) The textbooks are over loaded. Simply too much topics. For example in grade 3 you should do fractions until you puke.
Yes everyone has the same books in the US , but the overloading affect those who have less access for help.
1) Lack of role models. The most prominent Black Mathematicians are not well known (may be due to the subject more than any conspiracy)
2) The textbooks are over loaded. Simply too much topics. For example in grade 3 you should do fractions until you puke.
Yes everyone has the same books in the US , but the overloading affect those who have less access for help.
Many 3rd world nations are better off in a lot of ways than us blacks. For one they don't view poverty the same way we do. For us its associated with shame and failure something that is embarrassing and shameful and we often spend more time hiding it instead of addressing it or improving our conditions.
In 3rd world nations poverty is looked at as where you are at right now not where you are heading. Instead the emphasize is placed on what are you doing to improve your situation. With them they, for the most part dont have drugs, music, hitting the lotto and sports as false hopes to get them out their situation, they know that the only way to really make it out, is to use their brains and learn science, mathematics and the other subjects the Americans are too lazy to study themselves.
what u just posted is due its own thread, but it has absolutely nothin to do with what i posted to start this thread off. it's not about social/economic standings between 3rd world countries and its citizens.
japan isn't a 3rd world country. china isn't a 3rd world country. it's about how a 12 year old immigrant kid from china came to this country w/o knowing the language and his parents made sure dude threw himself into his public school work. imo there's no reason why lil man ends up in honors mathematics courses in high school and on par to get academic scholarship to dayum near the university of his choice and majority of black dudes not earning the same accolades.
Come on bruh, mathematics is the language of the universe. Its a direct correlation to logic, reasoning and rationality. It provides order and foundation to human survival. Don't be so narrow minded on its capabilities.....
So, how do they learn it correctly? What are the best, most correct methods outside of trial and error to being taught math? I'm talking about procedural methods on how to, and not so much philosophical (if he's this type of learner). Just the straight-forward best steps to learn mathematics. Curious.
I came in here to say this.
You points are good ones but...
Shouldn't the parents be that role model and if the parents start with placing value on education, math and sciences to be specific won't the child respond ? Of course this has to be started early.
Do others that do well in math do so because they have mathematicians who look like them ? Or does it have more to do with the expectations set by their parents?
I also agree that the volume and speed in which it is taught can be daunting and they often don't spend enough time on a certain discipline to allow the child to not only understand but develop a comfort.
I don't agree so mush with our children having access to the help. Its obvious that every member here has a computer and internet access..And for those who don't that access is available for free in every public library.
One of the biggest problems is that parents don't carve out a time and schedule for their children to study.
Often you can walk into a home and the child is laid out on the bed or floor with so mush shit going on that distraction is inevitable.
Study habits are developed and taught .They should be constructed with as little else going on as possible.There should also be a minimum time so they child doesn't just try and rush through to get done and to go on to something fun. If you have 2 hours after school and if your homework is finished then you read or something else study related they have no incentive to rush.
Whatever the problems are with school systems or tectbooks the solution starts in the home.
Being involved at the school. And being responsible for your child at home as well. Make the time and sacrifice to assist in the importance of your childs education.
Others use the same books and have the same teachers.
Don't let your children feel the peer pressure to be dumb. being intelligent isn't lame.Shortchanging yourself isn't cool.
The best way to learn math is visually through examples. Most problems require a 1-2-3 type process (meaning logical order), so the teacher must be clear in what the student is trying to understand. Also the student must practice (over and over again) until understood.
A lot of kids missed the foundation of mathematics (such a basic arithmetic of adding, subtracting, dividing and multiplying). Without a solid foundation of those things, math become a mess for a lot of people.
Math doesn't become abstract until proof based calculus courses, so everything before that is a straight-forward procedure. You just have to remember the steps and concepts.
Yep I'm waiting because all I hear is excuses... Should we teach black kids math through rap music or something?
I try and relate it them anyway possible....
But excuses is one of the main reasons black kids are not good in math. For every reason you give them to learn math, they have one more excuses why they suck at it.
I always said if parents allow their kid to have a TV in his or her room before the age of 14, they are setting them up for failure.
Even though they are not a 3rd world nation, many of the Asian nations are more disciplined and even their government places greater emphasis education as ways of keeping their country strong. Over here they view our students as people they can capitalize off of and make a profit off of.. The board of education consider it a success if they are able to graduate a student with remedial mathematics and English levels. The board of education aim is to produce obedient workers with the capability of following basic task, with very little emphasis placed on critical thinking which can lead to independent thinking. In order to fill the positions that require critical thinking, we often import them from countries like China, Japan, India as well as 3rd world nations who place great emphasis towards learning subjects that require critical thinking..
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Came into say this. Our educational system sucks ass. Truly does. Formal education has plenty of vague directions and wrong steps.
Nothing like sitting in a class with a proffesor or teacher in a lower income section of the city that's just there to get a check and rush through the work.
Math is something that should be self educated not formally educcated with sorryful ass teachers that half ass teach it. Never loved math until I relied on myself to educate myself.
I used to hate math also growing up, and I barely put enough effort to pass, this was largely due to the was it was taught to me, basically it was nothing but memorization of a few formulas and a few abstract concepts that even the teacher had very little to offer about its significance.
However later on I had a professor who placed a greater value on explaining the concepts and importance of the formulas and taught me how to reason the equations rather than rely on blind memorization, and right away a light bulb turned on and mathematics became less abstract and something I could fully grasp.
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Another problem with math is you can't truly practice it. Teacher can give you homework assingments, but the beauty is in the trial & error. You won't know your error until after you hand in the paper. I love khanacademy so much because when u doing math on khanacademy.org the moment you get a problem wrong you know it. And you have to get so many in a row right before you g to the next step.
Our educational system was designed by horace mann.....our educationa system is designed fr those that excel the fastest not for who will excel the furthest. It's designed fr those that don't question it, it's designed for those that condition themselves to believe what is in the text is as true as gold.
A lot of smart people and genius questioned what they were taught......it is allways good to question what you are taught. If we didn't we would still think te earth was flat and you can't harnass or take someone's energy through reikie
Our educational system was designed by horace mann.....our educationa system is designed fr those that excel the fastest not for who will excel the furthest. It's designed fr those that don't question it, it's designed for those that condition themselves to believe what is in the text is as true as gold.
A lot of smart people and genius questioned what they were taught......it is allways good to question what you are taught. If we didn't we would still think te earth was flat and you can't harnass or take someone's energy through reikie
This is an unacceptable excuse!!!
Fuzzy_McNut
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It's not just math, we are taught to believe sub conciously to rely on school to educate us and our children. It sickens me to know some parents don't teach their child shit it terms of school. They do the work for them or just whoop them for getting a bad grade. If you aren't inolved in your child's education and they getting bad grades maybe it's not the student but rather you or the teacher.
Indigo children are smart but do not do well in a formal educational enviorment. If your child is an indigo (also diagnosed as ADD/ADHD) then you need to work with tthem personally because that is truly a gift to have that.
Indigo children are smart but do not do well in a formal educational enviorment. If your child is an indigo (also diagnosed as ADD/ADHD) then you need to work with tthem personally because that is truly a gift to have that.
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