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Naw I disagree. Everybody was selfish. Everyone. His chic was selfish all she gave a damn about was the money for the real estate. His momma for sure selfish as FUCK. She could've waited until Teddy gave that pin and then killed him. But naw.....she wanted to hurt Franklin and Teddy at the same time because she was fucking but hurt Franklin chose his wife over her bitter ass.he the one that f up.
they all told him what they will do
all he saw was ego
chick was ridin with him til he put hands on here
start messing up the business
mom did what she needed to do
with htat money franklin was a dead man walkin
I'm mad as hell. 
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SIMPLEI can't believe how many people on here and social media are stuck on the “Verinique rode with him until he put his hands on her and then she did what's best for her child“ and “Cissy sacrificed herself to free him because knew the money would ruin him when none of that was even remotely true based on the events of the show and they just block out the part where Franklin wanted the millions so he could get out of the game. In the Veronique case she went behind his back trying to sell the property and when he confronted her and put his hands around her neck for it she took ALL the money he had left and dipped. It's clear as day that Cissy shot Teddy for revenge for killing Alton, if she had killed Teddy after Franklin got the money, Teddy would have been dead, Franklin would have his money, he would have gotten out the game and became a legit businessman
Disagree completelyI can dig all that. But in the eyes of the Saint, it was ALL OR NOTHING when it came to this real estate thing. He saw that downtown property as the ONLY WAY to get out from under the influence of 'the game'. Losing the property was a 'sign of weakness' to his 'ENEMIES'. This is the ONLY reason he was trying so hard to get the money. ANY money (just like a crackhead). The reality is that he still could have found his way out of it (as has already been pointed out by D24OHA) with the lesser properties that he ALREADY OWNED and was free and clear of any debts with. It just would take longer than he previously planned. In the drug game, Saint was the King. But in the real estate, they were PARTNERS. She might have been a minority partner but her knowledge was equal to that of Saint.
I contend that Franklin Saint became ADDICTED (as I said in my previous post) to the allure of fast money and that is what drove him completely insane. To the point of every act he committed in the last two episodes. Alcohol was the crutch that actually brought him back to a little reality.
*Evidence that he lost his mind* He wanted Leon to give him ALL THE MONEY he had (3 mil) for the downtown project (even though it wouldn't even be enough) leaving him high and dry in the business that he was already in. If Leon gives all that money, he is DEAD, he has nothing to pay for anything to his people. But Saint ain't give a rat's ass about that. He really would have tried to rob his best friend (his brotha really) if all them cats were not there. CRAZY
She came back and agreed to burn it all down to avenge her husband's deathShe was evil and selfish and they trying to make it seem like she wanted to save Franklin....TOO LATE he was selling crack for the government. Too late to be moral police now. At that stage he wanted the money to fund his real estate. The best case scenario. And this bitch couldn't see that. She got me hot. Her intentions were selfish as fuck because SHE couldn't live with herself.
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it was selfish savior complex bullshit
She only cares about the money scamming hoeNaw I disagree. Everybody was selfish. Everyone. His chic was selfish all she gave a damn about was the money for the real estate. His momma for sure selfish as FUCK. She could've waited until Teddy gave that pin and then killed him. But naw.....she wanted to hurt Franklin and Teddy at the same time because she was fucking but hurt Franklin chose his wife over her bitter ass.
How was he a dead man walking? Shit he a dead man walking now he a whole crackhead drunk who's been broken. And his chic betrayed him so he was hurt. I aint' saying put your hands around his neck but she ain't innocent man y'all tripping. Since the beginning Franklin been putting everyone on even at times putting his happiness to the side. Leon got the nerve to not want to give him the money? He made Leon a millionaire and saved his life. Saved his momma life. Louie was watching soap operas and shit and hanging up under Jerome before Franklin. Disloyal fucks.I'm mad as hell.
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Don't do that we having a conversation about a show. Nobody is hurt.Who hurt you fam? Hahaha
You've got like 3 or so people who refute this point of yours, but this is your hill.....
I damn near quoted V verbatim with what she told her mother.....she was a rider, until Franklin showed her, that momma was right.....
If she was really just a con artist or waiting for the big score she would've have been siphoning off money instead of letting $73 Mil stack up. She helped Franklin legitimize his business and have the accounts to back it up....she had his back until he showed he didn't have hers.
The $800k she "took" was the last available amount on his line of credit = overleveraged.....
it wasn't even $800K liquid, Franklin was truly trying betting the house on that downtown project with IOUs.....
dude was GOOOOONNNNNNEEEE!
Who hurt you fam? Hahaha
You've got like 3 or so people who refute this point of yours, but this is your hill.....
I damn near quoted V verbatim with what she told her mother.....she was a rider, until Franklin showed her, that momma was right.....
If she was really just a con artist or waiting for the big score she would've have been siphoning off money instead of letting $73 Mil stack up. She helped Franklin legitimize his business and have the accounts to back it up....she had his back until he showed he didn't have hers.
The $800k she "took" was the last available amount on his line of credit = overleveraged.....
it wasn't even $800K liquid, Franklin was truly trying betting the house on that downtown project with IOUs.....
dude was GOOOOONNNNNNEEEE!
He was wrong for putting hands on herHow did she have his back when she went behind his back and tried to sell the property, y'all act like he put his hands around her neck for no reason. Even if he was fucking up it was HIS MONEY, she helped him but it was still HIS MONEY so she had no right to try and sell the property and sure as hell didn't have a right to steal the 800k
I'm getting the sense that people believe that Teddy took that $70+ mil to fight for democracy. No, I don't believe that. Teddy took that money cause he wanted it. Saint was living lovely off the dope Teddy was selling him. Saint had a girl that was down for him and a baby on the way. What did Teddy have? A failed marriage that produced a son that he hardly ever spent time with because of his dedication to the job. I believe he felt a certain way about that and took the money in order to create a similar life with his old fling. Good old fashion greed, plain and simple. His current girlfriend to him he should give Saint the money back. His ex-wife said the same thing. Saint should have never trusted Teddy. He also should not have put his money in Puerto Rico cause it's too easy for the Gov. to get their hands on it.. Swiss bank account was the move he missed and it cost him. As they say in chess, Saint got mated on the board.
How did she have his back when she went behind his back and tried to sell the property, y'all act like he put his hands around her neck for no reason. Even if he was fucking up it was HIS MONEY, she helped him but it was still HIS MONEY so she had no right to try and sell the property and sure as hell didn't have a right to steal the 800k
joe wasnt even there fuck u talkin bout?How y'all listen to this shit man? Joe just scum man I don't get how he got a platform. Its something I'm missing. I Didn't even like him as a rapper but I at least get why people did.

who is to say teddy was telling the truthNaw I disagree. Everybody was selfish. Everyone. His chic was selfish all she gave a damn about was the money for the real estate. His momma for sure selfish as FUCK. She could've waited until Teddy gave that pin and then killed him. But naw.....she wanted to hurt Franklin and Teddy at the same time because she was fucking but hurt Franklin chose his wife over her bitter ass.
How was he a dead man walking? Shit he a dead man walking now he a whole crackhead drunk who's been broken. And his chic betrayed him so he was hurt. I aint' saying put your hands around his neck but she ain't innocent man y'all tripping. Since the beginning Franklin been putting everyone on even at times putting his happiness to the side. Leon got the nerve to not want to give him the money? He made Leon a millionaire and saved his life. Saved his momma life. Louie was watching soap operas and shit and hanging up under Jerome before Franklin. Disloyal fucks.I'm mad as hell.
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I don't remember Franklin marrying Veronique so again NO it was his moneyTeddy was offered a way back "in" the CIA if he delivered on his side of the "war."
That $73 mil was already earmarked for the CIA hence why the handler was there. They were NEVER going to let Franklin take that money and ride off into the sunset.
Teddy said it himself, "do you know what $73 million can buy? How many...(and begins to list guns and other weapons I believe.)
The CIA n"eeded" the money.....
As soon as Franklin thought about using it for anything it would've been seized again
WRONG!
Once you get married and bring a child into this world "the money" became more than his......
Someone had to protect the child's future, because he wasn't even protecting himself
Teddy was offered a way back "in" the CIA if he delivered on his side of the "war."
That $73 mil was already earmarked for the CIA hence why the handler was there. They were NEVER going to let Franklin take that money and ride off into the sunset.
Teddy said it himself, "do you know what $73 million can buy? How many...(and begins to list guns and other weapons I believe.)
The CIA n"eeded" the money.....
As soon as Franklin thought about using it for anything it would've been seized again
WRONG!
Once you get married and bring a child into this world "the money" became more than his......
Someone had to protect the child's future, because he wasn't even protecting himself
Exactly. Her husband was dead and gone. So she saw fit to ruin her sons life who’s alive and well. Selfish. She ain’t no hero.She came back and agreed to burn it all down to avenge her husband's death
AND DID
and people out here talking about saving Franklin
Nothing she did was to save Franklin
I’m trying to figure out what do people think Franklin was gonna do? Was he not in real estate? He wasn’t gonna use it on drugs….he was on to a more legit shit….im not seeing how it was gonna hurt him to get his 37 million.She only cares about the money scamming hoe
Stole 800k bright and early never to be seen again
It wasn't cause he put hands on her she knows the nigga ain't a woman beater after all he's been through she would've been got her ass beat if he was the type
Took off on the nigga
With his son
Called him later to rub it in his face told him take solace
Oh yea? Cool
Everyone a hoe
Teddy died good all he had was drugs not an empire Franklin built that
Louie was sucking pussy in the back of a night club
Rome was hitting sets on the porch nigga even tried to open a boombox store
Leon was nowhere
Cissy had a stroke collecting rent
Oso would be MURDERED
I'll give the writers credit last scene he said "women, I just don't understand man"
You damn right you could say that man
I know for a fact my momma wouldn't leave me hanging out to dry with 37m on the line for revenge
I’m talking about his podcast in general….with Melyssa Ford and the chunky loud boy….joe wasnt even there fuck u talkin bout?![]()
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How was he a dead man? That fool dead now shit. Can’t be any worse.who is to say teddy was telling the truth
lets even say mom selfish
with that money frank was dead man regardless
again u watch the show every thing was foreshadowed
all the way to him being a drunk
And was still aliveHow this nigga Peaches smoke up $5 million in crack tho?
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It's just not true.who is to say teddy was telling the truth
lets even say mom selfish
with that money frank was dead man regardless
again u watch the show every thing was foreshadowed
all the way to him being a drunk
It's so fuckin stupid because his entire quest is to get his damn retirement moneyI’m trying to figure out what do people think Franklin was gonna do? Was he not in real estate? He wasn’t gonna use it on drugs….he was on to a more legit shit….im not seeing how it was gonna hurt him to get his 37 million.
Pretty good for TeddyALL OF THIS!
Want to talk about speculations!! Imagine if Saint hadn't gotten the upper hand. If Oso hadn't turned on Teddy. Teddy making plans with that other chic to elope with that money. They would have had to KILL his handler, then disappear. But I don't think Teddy was in love with that chic anyway. Probably would've ended up killing her too. His wife and child would never be safe. Even in 1986, CIA had damn near UNLIMITED resources (Reagan era, George Bush in charge I think). They had eyes and ears all over the world. Even in countries that weren't 'friendly'
How's THAT for speculations??!!
I’m trying to figure out what do people think Franklin was gonna do? Was he not in real estate? He wasn’t gonna use it on drugs….he was on to a more legit shit….im not seeing how it was gonna hurt him to get his 37 million.

teddy told franklin the truth when he was tied up. he took because he "felt" he deserved it and not franklin. franklin made most of that money when teddy was kicked out the agency. he hated that the operation was flourishing with the other dude as franklin's handler. once he seen how much saint made he wasn't feeling that. tried to control him like the agency controlled him.I'm getting the sense that people believe that Teddy took that $70+ mil to fight for democracy. No, I don't believe that. Teddy took that money cause he wanted it. Saint was living lovely off the dope Teddy was selling him. Saint had a girl that was down for him and a baby on the way. What did Teddy have? A failed marriage that produced a son that he hardly ever spent time with because of his dedication to the job. I believe he felt a certain way about that and took the money in order to create a similar life with his old fling. Good old fashion greed, plain and simple. His current girlfriend to him he should give Saint the money back. His ex-wife said the same thing. Saint should have never trusted Teddy. He also should not have put his money in Puerto Rico cause it's too easy for the Gov. to get their hands on it.. Swiss bank account was the move he missed and it cost him. As they say in chess, Saint got mated on the board.
Teddy was gone. They weren't tripping after they got the kgb agent
Everything wrapped in a bow
Franklin with money didn't mean anything to them and their games all he was gonna do is own some "ghetto" property as far as they're concerned
imI’m talking about his podcast in general….with Melyssa Ford and the chunky loud boy….

cause the money was ciaHow was he a dead man? That fool dead now shit. Can’t be any worse.
teddy was not going to let him rideIt's just not true.
They didn't know how much he had or didn't have
Only teddy who was not in the CIA knew
Once teddy gone and kgb agent captured they were done with the entire situation
The results of the show proved that because if they weren't he'd still been murdered they don't leave loose ends period
Either Franklin was a loose end because of all he knew or NOT
Money didn't change shit
also to be fair once franklin said he would talk he would be deadI’m trying to figure out what do people think Franklin was gonna do? Was he not in real estate? He wasn’t gonna use it on drugs….he was on to a more legit shit….im not seeing how it was gonna hurt him to get his 37 million.