One question...who are they selling poison to?
Who are the making their money off of??
You guys act like they're selling crack to aliens or something.
They were/are destroying the black community and cats seem good with it![]()
You wanna sell poison..fine sell it to people outside of your community.Yea I know in your lil disney world with rainbow gumdrops, and unicorns,
there are no junkies, no drugs, just fluffy lil rabbits and puppies that never grow old.
but in the REAL WORLD there are junkies from ALL walks of life,
do I like it.. it doesnt matter what I like, the FACT there were junkies before we were born,
and there is a great chance they will be here when we transition.
My point was, if you are going to do it, at least do it in a way more people can benefit and then
use that money to go legit, INSTEAD OF trying to be drug kingpin of the world, live great for ten
to fifteen years, spend double that time in jail, and come out with nothing to show for it....
you are not supposed to be dealing drugs till death, make your bag go legit, in thirty years,
the hood will be poppin with legit businesses...
Im just saying if you gonna do shit, do it right...
Just like being a criminal sure its fucked up, but my philosophy is, if you gonna go that route..
GO SMART think big, so if you HAVE to do time, when you come out, you have something to come back to...
Join me in the real world, its not really that bad bruh....
It's funny how the majority of media projects dealing with organized crime always show how the criminals have a code of ethics when it comes to selling drugs into THEIR communities.You wanna sell poison..fine sell it to people outside of your community.
"Sell it to coloreds...they're animals anyway so let them lose their soles..."
Killing your own for personal gain is fucked up.
Niggaalso if u think about the show name is snowfall
franklin was the snow that fell
look at godfather of harlem....a black man battling italians over the right to sell drugs to black neighborhoods. At NO POINT does Bumpy ever even discuss opening territories in other ethnic groups neighborhoods. But cacs, latinos and asians can sell in the black neighborhoods no problem.It's funny how the majority of media projects dealing with organized crime always show how the criminals have a code of ethics when it comes to selling drugs into THEIR communities.
Black media/media geared towards blacks always seem to glorify the kingpins that completely destroy their communities with their poison, and we seem to eat it up even if we have seen the destruction first hand in real life.
im cryin
I dont like how that part came together either. By her decision making were supposed to see it as a mother protecting her son by sacrifice because despite being ruined he’ll still be alive.I don't understand why if Cissy don't fuck with Franklin anymore anyway, why would she sacrifice and throw her life away to so called protect him.
Franklin is ruined anyway so it would be better to be ruined with 37 mil than be ruined dead broke. So she really didn't save him from anything.
It seems to me she did it to spite Franklin for choosing the money over her, when she told him once he gets the money that will be the last time he will see her, and he agreed.
She could have waited until the money was transferred if she wanted to kill him.
I always say this about American drug dealers. But the king of the hill mentality is what always kills them off. Everyone wanted to be on top forever but never adapt or graduate from that lifestyle (go legit). Had all that money and didnt know what to do with it. But they never cut loses or segway into a better lane greed eats them up until they lose it all.nah frank with thirty plus milly, too many innocent people wouldve been going down with him....
You seen what he did to the locksmith... he was too junked out with money...
with that little bit of money he had in the safe, if had his soul back, he couldve easily flipped a couple
of birds he wouldve never been what he was, but he would at least be able to afford a roof over his head
and some clean clothes. I always hated how greedy street drug lords are..... the Hoods across america would be much different.
if muthafuckas just made their fifteen to twenty milly, then in five years move over and let the next team come up...
there was more than enough money to go around .. but the fuckin greed, snowfall did a great job displaying,
how that greed eats you up from the inside.... and leaves you a soulless shell.. All hoods in America
have their own version of Snowfall... See Alpo for New york Citys version...
Loved this series... but the ending of season four I think when he put down the cane and walked off without a limp..
on some keyser sosa shit.. that by far was the best season!!!
He is able to redeem himself but after carrying all of that for so long and losing it all would do that to anybody. Franklin was burnt out, a fall from the top like that is hard. Besides the type of business he was in never ends happy he was in too deep he was on the cusp of a happy ending but he wasnt gonna get that. This ending was as happy as it was gonna get.TV and its moral policing of stories with Black People in them. I'm tired of make-believe always telling us that we can never win no matter what. I feel like Franklin was young enough to be able to redeem himself if given a chance in some kind of way. Loen was able to redeem himself, why not Franklin? To be quite honest I know people that flipped the game into legitimate businesses as I'm sure some of you do as well. That's what I was hoping for and wanted to see.
Remember one important thing, Franklin was finished with the game for good. He was going to take his 70 mil, go legit and ride off into the sunset with V. At that moment he was clear headed, focused and precise.
He could have kept the downtown property, V would still be with him and once the baby was born he would have been even more focused.
The issues for Franklin didn't arise until he lost his money. As long as he had his money he was on point.
So if he would have had the 37 mil, his trajectory would have been in line with past seasons as far as business goes.
Franklin ended up the way he did because of his own greed. Dude still couldn't be cool with selling a stake in that new development and living comfortably off of rent from that South Central LA real estate.
Nigga really thought he was gonna skate away scot free with that $37 million.
The second Teddy healed up he was gonna go medieval on Saint and his family.
No Vaseline!!!
Bruh, Saint poured hot crisco on this man's chest. Best believe Teddy was going to get PAYBACK and with Government assistance.
No way Saint goes off into the sunset with that money while Teddy's still alive.
Franklin was good as dead with that money. Everyone knew it but Franklin.
A lot of Snowfall fans really miss the point of who Teddy is and the power he has, Franklin would never get that money back soon as Teddy would have pulled off Franklns account would have been in the negative again and Teddy would come at him extra hard for torturing him Cissy Jerome and Leon were the only ones that seen the big picture you never win against the Feds or CIA
She hated Teddy for Alton. She blames him/CIA for Franklin becoming who he was. She blames Teddy for bringing crack to black neighborhoods. IMO, she was going to kill Teddy before he made that transfer whether Alton was really alive or not. She saw what the money did to Franklin and she didn't want him to have it.I hate I missed the last 3 episodes and just now catching up because there's been some really good discussions in here BUT I can't believe people are really saying Franklins mom was right for shooting Teddy before Franklin got his money because my question is would she have shot Teddy if he had said Alton was in a prison, if the answer is no then that means the shooting was all about her hate for him killing Alton
She hated Teddy for Alton. She blames him/CIA for Franklin becoming who he was. She blames Teddy for bringing crack to black neighborhoods. IMO, she was going to kill Teddy before he made that transfer whether Alton was really alive or not. She saw what the money did to Franklin and she didn't want him to have it.
Just my theory. She had doubts he was telling her the truth, but had doubts on killing him too. His answer was just the push needed for her.If that was the case then why would she even ask about the whereabouts of Alton. In the scene her response and then action of her shooting Teddy was all based on his response to her after he said he shot Alton two times. When she was guarding Teddy he knew Alton was weak point so that's why he lied to her and told her he was still alive
Hot grease had Teddy in that chair doing vocal runs and everythingBruh, Saint poured hot crisco on this man's chest. Best believe Teddy was going to get PAYBACK and with Government assistance.
To step away from the finale for a minute.
Most of, if not damn near all of that cast was not from Los Angeles, and early in the series in interviews, Damson talked about having WC as a dialect coach while I'm not trying to take the shine off of Damson's skills as an actor, I want to highlight WC's work as a dialect coach. If you hear Damson in interviews, it's obvious that WC did a great job with him and did a great job with the rest of the cast.
It's a whoever dies with the most toys win mentality..ego I used to always ask why not get out the game after bringing in millions or stashHere's the full post in its entirety from LSA member "Hot Water"
Franklin had many opportunities to get out of the game but he didn’t want to stop. I will say that Teddy really fµcked him though. I would say Louie started this mess but, honestly, Teddy was going to end up betraying Franklin one way or another.
Franklin got way too greedy and lost his soul. Some of y’all say that Leon should’ve given him the money but ultimately that wasn’t going to help him. He needed to be cut off just like addicts need to be cut off. Franklin’s mind was gone and he was only going to destroy himself and others further. You could see that just by the lack of introspection and ability to pivot when he got desperate.
The only people that showed true intelligence and flexibility in the end were Leon, Wanda, and Skully. They accepted the reality of the situation, surrendered (in a sense), and made some real changes. They’re the only ones that truly remained free.
I also like how they didn’t give us the “dead or in jail” ending for Franklin. I feel like that ending would’ve time-stamped Franklin’s life and he would’ve always been remembered as a king pin. It was realistic to watch him unravel due to his demons…. and he did it right in his own community. It allowed for everything to come full circle. And it’s even worse because there is literally nobody coming to save Franklin. The people that could’ve kept him sane are dead or in jail. Even Leon had the sense to leave and the best he can do for Franklin is put his ass in rehab… but he’s so far gone that he probably won’t be able to rebound fully. When people are “gone” like that, they’re pretty much gone.
All in all.. I’m satisfied with the finale. Everyone acted their asses off. Awards need to be won
so, we’re supposed to pretend like saint didn’t drink whole, mfn series, then turned into a liquid junky the last few episodes
mf turned up a random bottle he found at the dope-fiend spot peaches was at![]()
those things can definitely amplify any current vicesStress, despair and feeling hopeless has made mfkrs do worse things
definitely NQRso, we’re supposed to pretend like saint didn’t drink whole, mfn series, then turned into a liquid junky the last few episodes
mf turned up a random bottle he found at the dope-fiend spot peaches was at![]()
Had thought her final scene would be of her at either the airport,bus terminal or train station..Louie. Damn girl, you hiding in horse shit in a stable now? About to be on the run for the rest of life. But as fine as she is she better be trying to get into another country on the other side of the world, then try to fine a sponsor before she gets too old.