when i heard her mom say in that one episode for her to do just that ......that "this is what we do"......i knew she was gonna burn him.
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Read this ^^^^^
Then read it again.
Once Teddy showed that while backed into a corner, facing permanent disfigurement, threats to his child's life and even his own death that he lied, YET AGAIN!
Teddy would NEVER honor any agreement with Franklin. He killed his father and still sat in his face and forced him to do business. Then once business got good, enough he took all of Franklin's money, every last fucking penny......he never respected Franklin and would never.
Teddy had to go and as long as Franklin didn't get the money the government would have no reason to chase Franklin in Teddy's "absence." She saved him and yet he was sooooo obsessed with the power play and short term money ("to get out") he couldn't see it.
If Franklin even sniffed at that money, just returning that KGB dude wouldn't be enough and he would never get to do that big "downtown" deal.
Got your wish
You can't "run the block" from the suburbs.....
Leon was still burgeoning as a dboy /king pin. He just beat up ole boy for control of the hood a few weeks back. He still needed time to get a trusted "right hand man" to hold shit down if he were to move away from the block.
Exactly......he could.never be trusted......fuck a "deal"......it would never be over if he were left alive
Franklins mom is the new Florida Evans!
Florida was to the Evans family what Gilligan was to the castaways..maybe not the reason they got there but was DEFINITELY the reason they stayed longer than they had to..
She just shot to the number 3 in WORST BLACK TV MOTHERS OF ALL TIME!!
Up there with....
1. Delonda... Namond's mom from The Wire
2. Cookie Lyons from Empire
3. Franklin Saints mom
4. DeAngelo Barkdale's mom Brianna from The Wire!!
Actress Michael Hyatt, has played TWO of the top 5 Worst Black TV MOTHERS OF ALL TIME!!!
^^^^ WRONG, all y'all
She went to keep Leon away from it. They bonded this past season, she saw the monster her child became, but saw the good and potential left in her adopted son.....
This part.
Never would have happened.
The CIA already discredited / killed Alton when he spoke out. They brushed that shit under a rug. As long as Franklin didn't have "their" money and handed over "their" prisoner ( the KGB dude).....they would leave him alone. He was already a "thug in the ghetto," he had no money and no more potential......"shoo fly" not worth killing.
In the 1st season we see Alton as a strung out man defeated in life by the government.....and Franklin looked at him with all the disdain and revulsion in the world......
What's the quote about knowing your history....?
Franklin became Alton.
BTW Cissy was keeping to her word. In the second to last episode she told Franklin if you pick the money this is last time I'll speak to you.
Franklin kept visiting, but obsessed with the money.......
She didn't speak. It had to tear her up inside to see what he became. The CIA/ drug game cost her a husband, brother AND son.......and then ultimately her freedom
If Teddy had stuck with his story of Alton still being alive do you think she would have still shot him?
When V chose Franklin over her mom, when momma said "come on let's go," "you see who he is," "you know how this ends...."
V said. "What I do know is that he never hurt me and he has put me and our family first."
Once Franklin choked her,(not sure if he hit her) and then sold off the properties (future stable income) in an insane downward spiral.......she had to be out......her mom was right and Franklin disappointed her like so many other people in her past. As much as I hate to say, she was right ultimately.....
That could've be interesting.........
I do not know.
As was shown before Teddy had shown so much revulsion and lack of respect towards Franklin and Cissy in that last scene......
Just out of spite and again to "save" Franklin she may have still done it.
I agreed with everybody who said she did it out of emotion because for one her whole reason for coming back to the U.S. and working with the KGB was to kill Teddy for killing Alton, then when Teddy lied to her and said Alton was still alive you could see how that affected her.
Yeah I Didnt' see it man....that boy hit rock bottom damn.
He did it to himself tho.....
He sold off all his residential properties to Cissy's old boss trying to keep the downtown power play alive.....
Veronique was trying to help him/ them out. Sell the stake in the downtown project while it was still worth something and avoid getting forced out ($0) or a firesale a pennies at the dollar.......
But now he is "free"
8 years of work flushed down the drain
Suddenly Leon is her son
Glad oso ok glad Louie ok with the horses
He's a homeless alcoholic
They'll try and make a connection between his dad and himself with what they were then turned into
Lazy shit
Just lazy disgraceful shit
I'm out of here
Mom in jail for life
He don't know his son
And he is doomed
Great job
Suddenly Leon is her son
Glad oso ok glad Louie ok with the horses
He's a homeless alcoholic
They'll try and make a connection between his dad and himself with what they were then turned into
Lazy shit
Just lazy disgraceful shit
I'm out of here
Mom in jail for life
He don't know his son
And he is doomed
Great job
If he had 37 million dollars he would've been just fine
She stole 800k from him next day and left
Suddenly he's a woman beater
Never aggressive toward a woman then wanted to choke out his bm
"Oh it's the madness"
No it wasn't
It was a lazy ending
Everything they did right up to that point
They failed at the end
Honestly her shooting teddy should've been the finale if they were gonna turn him into a homeless alcoholic in the next episode and vaguely mention they making Boyz n the hood down the street from his house
Then end it with "for jon"
Disgraceful ass shit
I disagree, but it's your opinion fam
Understood.
It honestly would've ended better if he got shot by peaches never to be heard from again
And everyone wondering where he ended up building a myth about how saint got away with it
I didn't think he needed to win.
He definitely deserved better as a character
They let oso go full circle
Franklin started off a square going to college
A square going to college that looked down at his father, a man that let the government break him down and turn him into a junkie........
Crime shouldn't pay and Franklin didn't deserve to ride off in the sunset unredeemed. But I get how could see NQRs in it.
His hoe ass mama ruined him. All the women in his life did. Must be karma for making that little fine one with the green eyes turn into crack head because his bm wasn’t shit, momma fucked him over and Louie got him too….
I mean, he was losing everything. His money, his businesses. That's twice, not counting V, where someone stole a large sum of his money. Then to be on the verge of getting some of it back and seeing your mom kill the dude and get arrested, yeah, I think a drink is needed. Then V turns on him, Leon won't give him shit. What options does he have but to lose his mind and end up in the predicament he found himself i . See the way he laughed when he opened that safe and only found 10k?
Only issue I had was him being drunk as fuck but still being able to make it to 5 different places safe.
Who didn't even KNOW his father. Not the full story. Alton was a warrior. Gov't used CHEMICAL WARFARE on the BPP to derail their movement
Saint (and Cissy) helped bring him back to life. With his history, he could have blown the whole thing up. That's why he had to go
Give Damson ALL the awards for that performance.
Thanks for listening to my TedTalk.
Thanks for listening to my TedTalk.
he the one that f up.
they all told him what they will do
all he saw was ego
chick was ridin with him til he put hands on here
start messing up the business
mom did what she needed to do
with htat money franklin was a dead man walkin
The government broke Alton down for sure. The government didn't break Franklin down his mom did.
In her selfish vengeful act she took her entire legacy with her
Like her son is evil but because Leon reads books to counteract him selling dope hes the son she never had??
Lolololololololllolololollllool
Did the government break him down?
Or did not having 37m dollars break him down?
You do know nobody got that money right? The only person that knew the account and code was teddy he died
That money is still there if the bank exists
Teddy wasn't even in the cia
They were off Franklin once he handed over the kgb agent
And Franklin didn't want to sell drugs anymore he wanted the property and legit business dealings
See how they didn't seize his property? How they didn't seize his house?
They didn't give a fuck about Franklin or any of them. Not a single fuck
Leon is still out here selling drugs and thriving as a known associate and franklin's best friend
The only reason they after Louie is because she "smarter" than everyone and got on the dea radar
Dea didn't even know about Franklin they knew about Teddy lol
The facts as the show laid it out proves that if he had his 37m everything would've been GREAT
He'd be alive out of the game where he tried to be until his family betrayed him and someone stole 73 million dollars from him
I have a huge issue with it because he should've been drinking the entire season that wasn't even the most stressful situation he was in.
I don't think he should have "won"
I believe his character deserved better
Way better
The father yes.
Franklin had no interest in blowing it up
Cissy tried at her trial and failed.
She ain't save Franklin from SHIT
Nothing
Why didn't the government seize any of his property? They don't know how much he had or didn't have.
Teddy wasn't in the cia
They don't know anything about the account. Numbers access code nothing it's gone forever
They could have seized everything right after and sent him to jail
Or
Maybe
Once he turned in the kgb agent everything was square and he could do what he wanted
Remember kgb agent said he recorded Franklin and if he doesn't check in it gets sent to the newspapers and news stations?
Looks like that was a lie too
Lol
The only person who fucked up the business was cissy for some revenge
Selfish revenge
Got y'all believing she did it for the greater good lololol
Is what he is now better than what he could have been with 37m dollars?
At least she got her greatest triumph in Leon right?
My actual drug dealing son reads!
If Franklin read books would he not be tragic anymore?
Like what part of don't go behind my back don't you understand?
My partner murdered my father and stole 73 million dollars
My aunt and uncle stole my source of income and conspired with the person that stole 73 million dollars
But it's ok if you just go behind my back for anything.
ITS NOT OK.
And if you had WAITED and then said this is what we need to do he'd listen
Franklin gave oso the cash and passports his entire family safe
Told Louie the dea was raiding her she's living with horses free now on a ranch
Leon business as usual
Bm in Europe with the mom with franklins 800k
Scamming
Lol
My partner murdered my father and stole 73 million dollars
My aunt and uncle stole my source of income and conspired with the person that stole 73 million dollars
But it's ok if you just go behind my back for anything.
ITS NOT OK.
And if you had WAITED and then said this is what we need to do he'd listen
Franklin gave oso the cash and passports his entire family safe
Told Louie the dea was raiding her she's living with horses free now on a ranch
Leon business as usual
Bm in Europe with the mom with franklins 800k
Scamming
Lol
I'd have to agree. The CIA wasn't really interested in Franklin. They wanted Teddy before the DEA and FBI could get to him. Cissy did them a favor cause if she hadn't put hot lead in Teddy, he would have jumped in the car with the other agent and end up missing. There is a big difference between Franklin telling people the CIA was dealing drugs and an actual agent at the head of the operation saying that the CIA was selling dope. Teddy would be way more believable than Franklin so Teddy was gonna die one way or the other. That's why the other agent slid to the left after the shots were fired. The last loose end was the KGB agent and they took care of that quickly. Franklin didn't even have a chance to have a drink to calm his nerves before he got beeped by the feds.
I can't believe how many people on here and social media are stuck on the “Verinique rode with him until he put his hands on her and then she did what's best for her child“ and “Cissy sacrificed herself to free him because knew the money would ruin him when none of that was even remotely true based on the events of the show and they just block out the part where Franklin wanted the millions so he could get out of the game. In the Veronique case she went behind his back trying to sell the property and when he confronted her and put his hands around her neck for it she took ALL the money he had left and dipped. It's clear as day that Cissy shot Teddy for revenge for killing Alton, if she had killed Teddy after Franklin got the money, Teddy would have been dead, Franklin would have his money, he would have gotten out the game and became a legit businessman