Once again Republicans are assholes

An undeveloped fetus has rights? You weird as hell, you like those evangelical weirdos
Yes, because a fetus is simply a stage in continuous human development.

You are ignorant to not realize that a human that is in the fetal development stage already has rights and protections. The fetal stage of human development lasts until birth. I could go on, but my point is made.
 
It is interesting that everytime I present scientific facts regarding human development, the conversation gets redirected. Nonetheless, I will answer your questions.

Actually, most insurance companies do provide coverage for the child in the womb.

I believe fathers should be obligated to begin providing financial assistance as it pertains to prenatal care. However, logically, the cost of an unborn child is significantly different than the cost of a child that has been born. Our current child support system is more "mom" support than child support.

Thanks for answering instead of running. While I agree abortion is horrible. It's still up to that person to decide. If a woman or child is raped, there's no way we as a society should force that person to carry that child to birth if they don't want it. Women aren't baby incubators. You should be adopting babies into your home if to really care about children like ya'll say you do.
 
If a female have sex willingly and gets pregnant she should not be allowed to get an abortion. But if she was raped she should be allowed to get one.
So if someone makes a foolish mistake they should be stuck living with that mistake for life no matter how early it is in the pregnancy?
 
I'm just keeping it real. I don't believe in abortions if you willingly get pregnant even if it's a mistake be smart and don't have sex without a condom if you don't want to screw up.
Abortion should be a last resort but you shouldn't be punished for having one. People have sex for pleasure also not just procreation.
 
Abortion should be a last resort but you shouldn't be punished for having one. People have sex for pleasure also not just procreation.
Exactly also so when we get raped and get pregnant and some women have a severe medical issue where they may need a abortion this is why Republicans are on a huge slippery slope with this. Also this is not going to save the white race that bus long ago left the station.
 
Exactly also so when we get raped and get pregnant and some women have a severe medical issue where they may need a abortion this is why Republicans are on a huge slippery slope with this. Also this is not going to save the white race that bus long ago left the station.
All true and I've said this before awhile ago. Republicans want to limit abortion but also want to limit sex ed and access to contraceptives. Tell me where that makes sense? I think many people are right about birth rates is one of the reasons they want it illegal.

I also think many people want women in a very restrictive box because they think women are out thoting and they want to stop it. I personally have no desire to control who a woman wants to fuck I guess that's why this seems so crazy to me.
 
People can have sex for pleasure but just be protected if you don't want to slip up and get pregnant.
That's unrealistic people taking the condom off they just are. But that's ok these conservatives getting so crazy y'all about to cause a civil war. Keep on with the regressive social policies to fit your so called morality.
 
That's unrealistic people taking the condom off they just are. But that's ok these conservatives getting so crazy y'all about to cause a civil war. Keep on with the regressive social policies to fit your so called morality.
How about make sure the condom stays on and we wouldn't be having so many people having kids that don't need to be having them. Stop making excuses for these people that's the problem now they are not being accountable for their actions.
 
YOU make no sense.
There should be no difference if you are going to use your original logic that a life is a life.


If a female have sex willingly and gets pregnant she should not be allowed to get an abortion. But if she was raped she should be allowed to get one.
 
How about make sure the condom stays on and we wouldn't be having so many people having kids that don't need to be having them. Stop making excuses for these people that's the problem now they are not being accountable for their actions.
You can hold someone accountable by teaching them better ways improving sex ed not by making them deal with an unwanted child for life. This country doesn't learn from past mistakes but that's ok y'all gonna see the results.
 
Yes, because a fetus is simply a stage in continuous human development.

You are ignorant to not realize that a human that is in the fetal development stage already has rights and protections. The fetal stage of human development lasts until birth. I could go on, but my point is made.

So you're for raising taxes on the wealthy to pay for them then.
 
Abortion should be a last resort but you shouldn't be punished for having one. People have sex for pleasure also not just procreation.
Exactly also so when we get raped and get pregnant and some women have a severe medical issue where they may need a abortion this is why Republicans are on a huge slippery slope with this. Also this is not going to save the white race that bus long ago left the station.
First, we have to stop with this false narrative that the only people against abortion are Republicans and white men. There are many democrats against abortion. There are many women against abortion. There are many black people that are against abortion.

Although most pro-abortionists will state that abortion should be used as a last resort, we know from the data provided by the cdc and hrsa that this is not the case. Over 80% abortions are initiated simply because of convenience.

Most pro-abortionists state that a woman should not be forced to carry a baby due to a mistake. But, no pro-abortionist can explain why one life has to end to prevent inconveniencing another due to a mistake.
 
So you're for raising taxes on the wealthy to pay for them then.
No, I'm for common sense taxes. I believe people need to be more responsible. People would be more careful if the abortion safety net wasn't so readily available.

Raise taxes for everyone. Then everyone would be invested in the number of out of wedlock children being procreated.
 
You can hold someone accountable by teaching them better ways improving sex ed not by making them deal with an unwanted child for life. This country doesn't learn from past mistakes but that's ok y'all gonna see the results.
All I'm saying is having protective sex needs to be the first and foremost thing that needs to be done. If more people practice protective sex you wouldn't have so many unwanted kids. I see it now in schools teachers having to pretty much raise someone else's kid cause the parent don't wanna raise them or can't raise them cause they are unfit.
 
All I'm saying is having protective sex needs to be the first and foremost thing that needs to be done. If more people practice protective sex you wouldn't have so many unwanted kids. I see it now in schools teachers having to pretty much raise someone else's kid cause the parent don't wanna raise them or can't raise them cause they are unfit.
Fine people should use protection but I think that's a trash argument for restricting access. People are going to fuck up we are human I don't believe that's a strong enough argument to restrict abortion. Just because it's an option doesn't mean the right should be taken away.
 

Upon researching this, there is no money actually going towards getting more formula. It's a bill to expand government.

Throwing money at a problem is rarely a long term answer. We saw this with the stimulus checks.

Most people have no idea what the causation of this problem is.

Voting against the bill was bad optics for Republicans. They are always making moves that make them look like devils. They simply could have put out information why they disagree.

American politics is so idiotic.
 
Fine people should use protection but I think that's a trash argument for restricting access. People are going to fuck up we are human I don't believe that's a strong enough argument to restrict abortion. Just because it's an option doesn't mean the right should be taken away.
Be smarter make better choices when having sex that's all I'm saying and you wouldn't have to worry about a decision like abortion then.
 
No, I'm for common sense taxes. I believe people need to be more responsible. People would be more careful if the abortion safety net wasn't so readily available.

Raise taxes for everyone. Then everyone would be invested in the number of out of wedlock children being procreated.

You claim the fetus is a separate life and you want the state to step in and determine it's fate. So the state them takes on full responsibility.

The poor and middle class shouldn't have to bear the burden of your extremism. If you care so much about the fetus, why won't you just raise taxes on the rich to take care of them.

Or are you saying you don't really care about the fetus at all, you're more so wanting to punish behavior.
 
Be smarter make better choices when having sex that's all I'm saying and you wouldn't have to worry about a decision like abortion then.
Obviously but banning it in some situations in all cases or severely restricting access to it nah that's regressive bullshit.
 
Obviously but banning it in some situations in all cases or severely restricting access to it nah that's regressive bullshit.
Like I said be smarter with your decisions and you wouldn't have to worry about anything. When I fuck my girlfriend I wear protection because I'm not looking to have kids right now, if more people had that same mentality then they wouldn't be bringing unwanted kids into the world that they don't wanna raise.
 
All true and I've said this before awhile ago. Republicans want to limit abortion but also want to limit sex ed and access to contraceptives. Tell me where that makes sense? I think many people are right about birth rates is one of the reasons they want it illegal.

I also think many people want women in a very restrictive box because they think women are out thoting and they want to stop it. I personally have no desire to control who a woman wants to fuck I guess that's why this seems so crazy to me.
True but the main thing with that statement also is that some of these white men don’t want white women pussy Poppin in front of black men. With the changing demographics thats going to be hard to stop.
 
You claim the fetus is a separate life and you want the state to step in and determine it's fate. So the state them takes on full responsibility.

The poor and middle class shouldn't have to bear the burden of your extremism. If you care so much about the fetus, why won't you just raise taxes on the rich to take care of them.

Or are you saying you don't really care about the fetus at all, you're more so wanting to punish behavior.
You assume that only rich people are against abortion. Many poor and middle class people are not in favor of abortion.

A human in the fetal stage of development is ultimately the responsibility of the parents, the same as a human in the toddler stage of human development.

I care about human life. I never celebrate the death of anyone including cops. I do not support the death penalty. I believe social safety nets need improvement so that these children have a better chance at being successful.

Abortion does not deal with the real problem, which is the increased number of children being created out of wedlock, particularly in the black community. We have to recognize that 75% of children being born out of wedlock is a problem. But, we have to also recognize that killing more black babies is not the solution.

It's a sick and twisted logic if you think about it.
 
True but the main thing with that statement also is that some of these white men don’t want white women pussy Poppin in front of black men. With the changing demographics thats going to be hard to stop.
Hopefully for once we can stop this bullshit which only has like 30-35% support. I hate this country smh.
 
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