***Official 2010 FIFA World Cup Thread***

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and here I was judging Ashley Cole for going for a white chick...GOD DAMN!!!:lol:

and yes I found the lowest picture I could...:lol:

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What is the future for US Soccer?

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For those of you fans, whether new or old, who are still curious about the future of US Soccer, and what needs to be done in order to succeed as a heavyweight in world football, Jurgen Klinsman hit it right on the money after the loss to Ghana. I've echoed his sentiments on numerous occasions, and will continue to do so until there is change in that US Soccer needs to come down off it's suburban only high, and allow the inner city kids, the working class kids, the kids with maybe not the highest GPA's, but the hunger, drive and dedication to play, to begin balling at the serious levels. Until we collectively make this stride within our footballing roots here, we will always be a middle of the pack country.

Our population alone should allow us to choose from a pool of worthy atheltes who can play ball in this country, but the way US Soccer is set up, only the rich are allowed to play. This is wrong on so many levels, I never know where to begin. Check out Klinsmans reaction.

Transcript and link below.

From 1:20 to 3:34 mark.
ESPN analysts on the future of US Soccer

Mike Tirico: Are we good enough? Do we have enough good players? Do we have enough good quality stock to get to where people want to be, round of 16 every year?

Jurgen Klinsman: Oh I think that's gonna be a major discussion point for U.S. Soccer now… what is the quality of our players really? You know I think, looking at the game yesterday you had three really quality players that actually didn't live up to their expectations, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, and Tim Howard. They were not there. It was not their game last night. And if they don't step up to the World Cup stage you know, you cant expect now, Michael Bradley, and the other ones to pull it all off. I think it's really important that they lay out a philosophy for U.S. Soccer and say you know, "where do we want to go…"

(speaks on World Cup 2018, 2022 bid for a moment)

… so you need to know how develop your players, and it's very difficult within the American culture to talk about that topic because you are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside down. :yes: It means you pay for having your kid play soccer because your goal is not that your kid becomes professional soccer player, because your goal is that the kid gets a scholarship, in a high school or in a college, which is completely opposite from the rest of the world.

Mike Tirico: And you're seeing this firsthand this living the States?

Jurgen Klinsman: 12 years now, and it's a tough one because soccer is very similar to Basketball, you need it out of the lower class environment. In soccer, worldwide, is a lower class environment sport. You know we all got up from you know, moderate families, and fought our way through, so you need to keep this hunger throughout your life, and I compare to Basketball because looking at all of these guys, they're coming from the inner cities. So you need to find ways, however that could be, to connect with the hispanics, to connect with everybody in the soccer environment in the U.S., and get the kids that are really hungry, to get the kids on a technical level that are able to perform… what I mean with technical level is the first touch… and the first touch yesterday, was not there. There were far too many mistakes, and you can't afford those mistakes in a World Cup unfortunately.

This is spot on from Klinsman. :yes:

Your thoughts.
 
What is the future for US Soccer?

Screenshot2010-06-28at100213PM.png


For those of you fans, whether new or old, who are still curious about the future of US Soccer, and what needs to be done in order to succeed as a heavyweight in world football, Jurgen Klinsman hit it right on the money after the loss to Ghana. I've echoed his sentiments on numerous occasions, and will continue to do so until there is change in that US Soccer needs to come down off it's suburban only high, and allow the inner city kids, the working class kids, the kids with maybe not the highest GPA's, but the hunger, drive and dedication to play, to begin balling at the serious levels. Until we collectively make this stride within our footballing roots here, we will always be a middle of the pack country.

Our population alone should allow us to choose from a pool of worthy atheltes who can play ball in this country, but the way US Soccer is set up, only the rich are allowed to play. This is wrong on so many levels, I never know where to begin. Check out Klinsmans reaction.

Transcript and link below.

From 1:20 to 3:34 mark.
ESPN analysts on the future of US Soccer

Mike Tirico: Are we good enough? Do we have enough good players? Do we have enough good quality stock to get to where people want to be, round of 16 every year?

Jurgen Klinsman: Oh I think that's gonna be a major discussion point for U.S. Soccer now… what is the quality of our players really? You know I think, looking at the game yesterday you had three really quality players that actually didn't live up to their expectations, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, and Tim Howard. They were not there. It was not their game last night. And if they don't step up to the World Cup stage you know, you cant expect now, Michael Bradley, and the other ones to pull it all off. I think it's really important that they lay out a philosophy for U.S. Soccer and say you know, "where do we want to go…"

(speaks on World Cup 2018, 2022 bid for a moment)

… so you need to know how develop your players, and it's very difficult within the American culture to talk about that topic because you are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside down. :yes: It means you pay for having your kid play soccer because your goal is not that your kid becomes professional soccer player, because your goal is that the kid gets a scholarship, in a high school or in a college, which is completely opposite from the rest of the world.

Mike Tirico: And you're seeing this firsthand this living the States?

Jurgen Klinsman: 12 years now, and it's a tough one because soccer is very similar to Basketball, you need it out of the lower class environment. In soccer, worldwide, is a lower class environment sport. You know we all got up from you know, moderate families, and fought our way through, so you need to keep this hunger throughout your life, and I compare to Basketball because looking at all of these guys, they're coming from the inner cities. So you need to find ways, however that could be, to connect with the hispanics, to connect with everybody in the soccer environment in the U.S., and get the kids that are really hungry, to get the kids on a technical level that are able to perform… what I mean with technical level is the first touch… and the first touch yesterday, was not there. There were far too many mistakes, and you can't afford those mistakes in a World Cup unfortunately.

This is spot on from Klinsman. :yes:

Your thoughts.

Nigeria has 160 million black people

Ethiopia has 80 million black people

Zaire has 70 million black people

Each of these countries have more black people than the USA. Why should the US be football superpower before they are?
 
What is the future for US Soccer?

Screenshot2010-06-28at100213PM.png


For those of you fans, whether new or old, who are still curious about the future of US Soccer, and what needs to be done in order to succeed as a heavyweight in world football, Jurgen Klinsman hit it right on the money after the loss to Ghana. I've echoed his sentiments on numerous occasions, and will continue to do so until there is change in that US Soccer needs to come down off it's suburban only high, and allow the inner city kids, the working class kids, the kids with maybe not the highest GPA's, but the hunger, drive and dedication to play, to begin balling at the serious levels. Until we collectively make this stride within our footballing roots here, we will always be a middle of the pack country.

Our population alone should allow us to choose from a pool of worthy atheltes who can play ball in this country, but the way US Soccer is set up, only the rich are allowed to play. This is wrong on so many levels, I never know where to begin. Check out Klinsmans reaction.

Transcript and link below.

From 1:20 to 3:34 mark.
ESPN analysts on the future of US Soccer

Mike Tirico: Are we good enough? Do we have enough good players? Do we have enough good quality stock to get to where people want to be, round of 16 every year?

Jurgen Klinsman: Oh I think that's gonna be a major discussion point for U.S. Soccer now… what is the quality of our players really? You know I think, looking at the game yesterday you had three really quality players that actually didn't live up to their expectations, Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey, and Tim Howard. They were not there. It was not their game last night. And if they don't step up to the World Cup stage you know, you cant expect now, Michael Bradley, and the other ones to pull it all off. I think it's really important that they lay out a philosophy for U.S. Soccer and say you know, "where do we want to go…"

(speaks on World Cup 2018, 2022 bid for a moment)

… so you need to know how develop your players, and it's very difficult within the American culture to talk about that topic because you are the only country in the world that has the pyramid upside down. :yes: It means you pay for having your kid play soccer because your goal is not that your kid becomes professional soccer player, because your goal is that the kid gets a scholarship, in a high school or in a college, which is completely opposite from the rest of the world.

Mike Tirico: And you're seeing this firsthand this living the States?

Jurgen Klinsman: 12 years now, and it's a tough one because soccer is very similar to Basketball, you need it out of the lower class environment. In soccer, worldwide, is a lower class environment sport. You know we all got up from you know, moderate families, and fought our way through, so you need to keep this hunger throughout your life, and I compare to Basketball because looking at all of these guys, they're coming from the inner cities. So you need to find ways, however that could be, to connect with the hispanics, to connect with everybody in the soccer environment in the U.S., and get the kids that are really hungry, to get the kids on a technical level that are able to perform… what I mean with technical level is the first touch… and the first touch yesterday, was not there. There were far too many mistakes, and you can't afford those mistakes in a World Cup unfortunately.

This is spot on from Klinsman. :yes:

Your thoughts.

It was great to see Klinsman access the situation for what it is, Our best Athletes are from the Inner-city and most of those kids growing up have dreams of playing in the NFL or the NBA. IDK what it going to take for kids to change their mindset but it can be done.
 
Nigeria has 160 million black people

Ethiopia has 80 million black people

Zaire has 70 million black people

Each of these countries have more black people than the USA. Why should the US be football superpower before they are?

Because we have the most Money :lol::lol::lol:
 
Nigeria has 160 million black people

Ethiopia has 80 million black people

Zaire has 70 million black people

Each of these countries have more black people than the USA. Why should the US be football superpower before they are?

Because while Africa may have numbers in Black people, they otherwise would lack in Asian, Spanish, French, Italian, Portuguese, Brazilian, English, Irish, German, and any other nationality you can think of. We have a vast population that is not predominantly one race, but rather several. This mix of various cultural backgrounds can offer many different aspects of football in the United States if the right talent is found, and pieced together properly.

In this country, we have a tendency to only pick from one pool of players. Biggest mistake.

This pool of players are predominantly college bound, educated, 4.0 GPA having kids. Not only do they excel on the pitch, but in the classroom as well. However, too much of anything is a bad thing, and this is no different. We don't select from the millions of other pools we have here in this country which is waste.

Whether it be Latinos, Blacks, Whites, Europeans, it's all here. We just need to start looking at these kids as options now if we're ever going to build the right way.
 
It was great to see Klinsman access the situation for what it is, Our best Athletes are from the Inner-city and most of those kids growing up have dreams of playing in the NFL or the NBA. IDK what it going to take for kids to change their mindset but it can be done.

Well for the longest time in this country there was never an outlet for these kids. The only option to be a professional athlete was to go overseas. But with our own league, (yes as mickey mouse as MLS maybe) kids still have something to aspire to. Something to dream to. Gone are the days where these kids are now snagged up by high school american football coaches, basketball coaches to play their sport.

Tim Howard got his first start in MLS, and he's the prime example of what i'm talking about. Going from MLS Goalkeeper of the year, straight to Manchester, and now the Everton #1, and arguably one of the best keepers in the world.

This is a brotha that had mad hops cause he played goalkeeper and was good with his hands. How hard would it have been for his high school coaches to notice his talent and pull him aside on some, "you really gon play soccer son!?"

I'm willing to bet it happened. :cool:

But with MLS as an outlet now, kids are now given the option to make themselves into professional athletes. There's a way out for them, and when there's that option to leave, kids will stick with it.

I've seen it first hand fam. :yes:
 
Agree with Klinsman, see below.

The thing is is that the building of athletes is so different here in the US than anywhere. For majority of the sports here, the sort of minor league/feeder system is @ the college level. From there you get scouted and viewed and then move on to the professional level. By that time a person could be in their mid-20s starting out as a pro.

Then you look @ foreign countries and they are being viewed and scouted at a much younger age. Where they could be in their teens playing professionally.

Honestly I think if you want to build the sport here, you need to start @ the youth level. How many of us played b-ball, baseball, football (american) and a child? And how many played football (soccer)? If we can get more kids into the sport then the participation will grow and the viewing audience.


Now how do you get the youth involvement higher? That's the trick, in theory it shouldn't be hard b/c like basketball, baseball, and football it doesn't cost much just to play, to be involved. All you really need for each (relatively) is space (area to play), a ball, and a goal of some form. And those can just be makeshift items, apart from the space.

I know growing up my friends weren't fond of soccer and my siblings didn't play so that's why it was mainly basketball/baseball for me. Really it's a matter of not just getting the kids involved physically but also exposing the parents/guardians to it. If they grow up following or just occasionally watching it then I could see the participation increasing, even in the inner city. Not to make this a racial issue, but I've heard that participation of black children in baseball has been going down. So with that I feel soccer will have a tough time b/c baseball has a larger sports presents.
 
Another problem for football in the US is when people who are so ignorant of the game but have access to Microphones on the ESPNs and the various Sports Talk show will quit shitting on the game every opportunity they get. As I speak, the talk now is the controversy of goal line technology.
You have people who in their mindsets and fear think FOOTBALL when popular will take away from their AMERICAN SPORTS so they will do and say any and everything to "scare' other ignonrants into not accepting it
another point, if they'd have people who know the game announce/call the game and make it interesting for people to watch. eg, one time on tv there was an MLS game and if I wasn't watching the screen, I'd have thought that I was listening to a mix of football(American) and basketball. So boring
A spectator/fan's viewpoint anyway
 
Another problem for football in the US is when people who are so ignorant of the game but have access to Microphones on the ESPNs and the various Sports Talk show will quit shitting on the game every opportunity they get. As I speak, the talk now is the controversy of goal line technology.
You have people who in their mindsets and fear think FOOTBALL when popular will take away from their AMERICAN SPORTS so they will do and say any and everything to "scare' other ignonrants into not accepting it
another point, if they'd have people who know the game announce/call the game and make it interesting for people to watch. eg, one time on tv there was an MLS game and if I wasn't watching the screen, I'd have thought that I was listening to a mix of football(American) and basketball. So boring
A spectator/fan's viewpoint anyway


cosign
Lalas sounds at times like a retard and a number of those commentating are just not knowledgeable about the game, yet they have mics and are really turning people off.

Final thoughts: in 2006 Ghana kicked out the U.S. In 2010 Ghana has done it again. A key reason for this is that Ghana has better players. In addition those who do their homework would know that Ghana is very passionate about soccer; approaching the Brazilian passion. Ghana has a better team than the U.S.

Before losing to Ghana the U.S. soccer analysts clearly indicated that they were confident about beating Ghana. After losing they are now crestfallen and wondering what is wrong with American soccer.

First and foremost the U.S. soccer powers are too arrogant. Secondly they did not do their homework to get the resume of Ghana. Also, bad calls are part of every single sport; including the NBA when the Lakers beat the Celtics recently. Yet we do not obsess over referee decisions. We all move on; except the American soccer experts who do not know and understand soccer and think that if the rules are changed then they can win and beat everyone. That is a lie. It is not changing the rules that will help the U.S.

Soccer rules have been around a long time and with time they will be modernized with time, just like many other sports. The U.S. has to develop the game the way other countries have. The U.S. has been in the soccer scene for 80 years! With all the money. still no results. Of course money is not the key to soccer.

Perhaps we can start by studying the history of the game and beginning to gain a new found respect for those who succeed in the game. World Cup success is not about the size of a nations GDP or the land size.
 
I've always stated that 'Soccer' is the US needs to move on from the 'soccer mom' perspective of how it should be run. To improve from a grass roots level, the level of coaching must improve.
 
cosign
Lalas sounds at times like a retard and a number of those commentating are just not knowledgeable about the game, yet they have mics and are really turning people off.

Final thoughts: in 2006 Ghana kicked out the U.S. In 2010 Ghana has done it again. A key reason for this is that Ghana has better players. In addition those who do their homework would know that Ghana is very passionate about soccer; approaching the Brazilian passion. Ghana has a better team than the U.S.

Before losing to Ghana the U.S. soccer analysts clearly indicated that they were confident about beating Ghana. After losing they are now crestfallen and wondering what is wrong with American soccer.

First and foremost the U.S. soccer powers are too arrogant. Secondly they did not do their homework to get the resume of Ghana. Also, bad calls are part of every single sport; including the NBA when the Lakers beat the Celtics recently. Yet we do not obsess over referee decisions. We all move on; except the American soccer experts who do not know and understand soccer and think that if the rules are changed then they can win and beat everyone. That is a lie. It is not changing the rules that will help the U.S.

Soccer rules have been around a long time and with time they will be modernized with time, just like many other sports. The U.S. has to develop the game the way other countries have. The U.S. has been in the soccer scene for 80 years! With all the money. still no results. Of course money is not the key to soccer.

Perhaps we can start by studying the history of the game and beginning to gain a new found respect for those who succeed in the game. World Cup success is not about the size of a nations GDP or the land size.

I feel you on this one. Soccer here is too technical here, watching kids play is pathetic, the coach tries direct every thing they do, from passes to shots. LET THE KIDS PLAY and find out what skills they have. In countries I've been to, kids more or less develop unique skills from playing among themselves with no interruption from meddling adults, that goes for parents too.

In Ghana, they have this thing called gutter to gutter and (4-3 corners), basically every open space is game so kids learn to hold the ball (midfield) and defend very well. When they grow up, it's about harnessing those skills. It was more about bragging rights than anything. Due to the way they develop, Africans have more renowned midfielders and defenders than strikers. Europe also have a similar system but due to a more developed system, they are able to harness and develop kids skills as soon as they are identified.

Maybe we should eat the humble pie and learn from these rather than thinking we're up to par with the rest of the world. We're too technical, makes US soccer really boring. The beauty of soccer is not only the goals, it's the skills exhibited that makes it beautiful. This pass, pass, push, pass, shoot is not helping the popularity of soccer in this country. It's just like basket ball without dunking or individual "styling" of another player.

Touching on your last points, Landon Donovan kept saying Ghana wasn't a team the US should have lost to. Really? Well you lost to them twice in a row, idiot! The other dude with the jerk Lalas also kept pointing out the Ghana was the size of Oregon, yet they ended our world cup dreams, smfh @ that stupid statement.
 
I feel you on this one. Soccer here is too technical here, watching kids play is pathetic, the coach tries direct every thing they do, from passes to shots. LET THE KIDS PLAY and find out what skills they have. In countries I've been to, kids more or less develop unique skills from playing among themselves with no interruption from meddling adults, that goes for parents too.

In Ghana, they have this thing called gutter to gutter and (4-3 corners), basically every open space is game so kids learn to hold the ball (midfield) and defend very well. When they grow up, it's about harnessing those skills. It was more about bragging rights than anything. Due to the way they develop, Africans have more renowned midfielders and defenders than strikers. Europe also have a similar system but due to a more developed system, they are able to harness and develop kids skills as soon as they are identified.

Maybe we should eat the humble pie and learn from these rather than thinking we're up to par with the rest of the world. We're too technical, makes US soccer really boring. The beauty of soccer is not only the goals, it's the skills exhibited that makes it beautiful. This pass, pass, push, pass, shoot is not helping the popularity of soccer in this country. It's just like basket ball without dunking or individual "styling" of another player.

Touching on your last points, Landon Donovan kept saying Ghana wasn't a team the US should have lost to. Really? Well you lost to them twice in a row, idiot! The other dude with the jerk Lalas also kept pointing out the Ghana was the size of Oregon, yet they ended our world cup dreams, smfh @ that stupid statement.

This is exactly what I have been saying....The US has money and people, and all these things can be important factors...However, before you get to that point, people have to develop certain natural instincts; they have acquire the skills of Andre Ayew, Assamoah Gyan who can hold the ball and create something out of it. The US players who can best to manifesting these skills was the Argentinian Claudio Reyna....

The rest of the US team often looks as if it is made of well drilled machines. They know where to be on a cross; they know where to run on a corner or a free kick. As as result, even when they are not playing particularly well in midfield, the knowledge of where to be and when to be there, during a scoring moment, allows the US to score goals which have made them think the are a good team. Brazil realised this in the Confederations Cup; the US had gone up 2-0, were beginning to Celebrate on MSN and such other forums. However, the half time adjustment that Dunga made, convinced me once and for all, that even though the motherfuckers had eliminated South Africa in a game in which yet one more African team had outplayed them in midfield, he was a great coach. Dunga simply threw out the tactics and asked his team to take individual skills against the Americans. He realised that the American had studied the tape, and were anticipating the movements of the Brazilians, and finding success in cutting off passes or running into open spaces.

Natural football is unpredictable because the players simply figure things out by themselves...They adjust according to the situation on the ground; it is the old way of playing that Brazil endeared themselves to world with before Carlos Alberto Perreira made them a more tactical team in the mid 1990s.

The Americans were lost when Brazil imposed Jogo on them. Brazil roared back and scored 3 goals in the second half and won the trophy. Here is what is interesting; when Brazil played South Africa, Jogo got them in trouble as the smallers and faster South African buzzed in and out of them. When they played Egypt (with Mohammed Zidane in the line up), they were under pressure; when played Ivory Coast, Ivory Coast was dominating the game, taking Kaka out of it. Granted we do not know what Brazil might have done had they gone behind, the fact of the matter is that Brazil scored and won using tactical football against the Africans, and scored using technical football against the Americans..

Clearly, the future is clear, in stead of teaching 4 year olds tactics, teach them how to stop, turn and dribble the ball. Sometimes, just let them play and do not interfere. When they get a natural feel, then you can do all the other stuff...
 
This is exactly what I have been saying....The US has money and people, and all these things can be important factors...However, before you get to that point, people have to develop certain natural instincts; they have acquire the skills of Andre Ayew, Assamoah Gyan who can hold the ball and create something out of it. The US players who can best to manifesting these skills was the Argentinian Claudio Reyna....

The rest of the US team often looks as if it is made of well drilled machines. They know where to be on a cross; they know where to run on a corner or a free kick. As as result, even when they are not playing particularly well in midfield, the knowledge of where to be and when to be there, during a scoring moment, allows the US to score goals which have made them think the are a good team. Brazil realised this in the Confederations Cup; the US had gone up 2-0, were beginning to Celebrate on MSN and such other forums. However, the half time adjustment that Dunga made, convinced me once and for all, that even though the motherfuckers had eliminated South Africa in a game in which yet one more African team had outplayed them in midfield, he was a great coach. Dunga simply threw out the tactics and asked his team to take individual skills against the Americans. He realised that the American had studied the tape, and were anticipating the movements of the Brazilians, and finding success in cutting off passes or running into open spaces.

Natural football is unpredictable because the players simply figure things out by themselves...They adjust according to the situation on the ground; it is the old way of playing that Brazil endeared themselves to world with before Carlos Alberto Perreira made them a more tactical team in the mid 1990s.

The Americans were lost when Brazil imposed Jogo on them. Brazil roared back and scored 3 goals in the second half and won the trophy. Here is what is interesting; when Brazil played South Africa, Jogo got them in trouble as the smallers and faster South African buzzed in and out of them. When they played Egypt (with Mohammed Zidane in the line up), they were under pressure; when played Ivory Coast, Ivory Coast was dominating the game, taking Kaka out of it. Granted we do not know what Brazil might have done had they gone behind, the fact of the matter is that Brazil scored and won using tactical football against the Africans, and scored using technical football against the Americans..

Clearly, the future is clear, in stead of teaching 4 year olds tactics, teach them how to stop, turn and dribble the ball. Sometimes, just let them play and do not interfere. When they get a natural feel, then you can do all the other stuff...

cosign; you truly understand the game!!!! That is the beauty of football; the individual play. That is why Maradona and the great Pele are so respected! Their football IQ was ridiculous! They could make one simple move and change the game!

For the record, Andre Ayew is the son of Ghana's Abedi Pele. He was one of the greatest players on the continent as well as the world and played in the French League where he led his team to a number of championships. I remember the guy (Andre) when he could barley walk and would sit on the sidelines watching his father train in Ghana during the off season. Not only is the game in his blood, he has been watching the game since he could talk!!

This is the kind of history that the American coaches and Lalas as well as that arrogant cockroach Donavon should have found out before assuming that they could easily beat Ghana. It is stupid to underestimate your opponent once. I am not sure what you would describe underestimating your opponent twice!!!!
 
Blatter is talking about bringing replay cameras into games.. Bullshit; I hope the Africans say no. The motherfucker is trying to run for another term in office, and without the the African block, he will not get it. Just like Joao Havelange paid attention to us on account of our numbers, Blatter will hopefully see the light and stop introducing ideas that could hurt the game. Why is that some people bitch when it happens to them, and pretend as if the world has ended. Who said anything when Fabiano handled the ball 2x against Ivory Coast. Who said anything when Suarez dived against South Africa.. We have suffered all these things, and the only time when Fifa actually changed the rules to address an injustice perpetrated on Africa was in 1982 when a Germany which had already been beaten by Algeria colluded with the other Nazi speaking country, Austria, to reach a result that benefitted and allowed both Austria and Germany to proceed at the expense of Algeria..


The reason why technology cannot be allowed in the game is that not everyone can afford it. It is the reason why it has not been allowed. The English may be bitching now that the were on the suffering end of a call. Since we have video evidence, I wonder if they would like us to review the dubious World Cup they won at the expense of Germany in 1966. Jeff Hurst's shot was not a goal. But we live and have moved on...

The English and Americans are the most bitching countries in the world. To this day, the motherfucking English still cry about the hand of God, though their selective amnesia allows them to forget the two Gary Lineker flops by which they eliminated Cameroon in 1990. The Americans have come and begun their own bitching, rumbling against the penalty justly given to Ghana in 2006. If they would learn football, they would know that that goon, Onyewu is a penalty waiting to happen... He think he is playing American rugby (known within the USA as football), where he is free to use his size to manhandle people...

Recently, they pilloried and vilified Mr Coulibaly, until it was shown that, he was no different form most of the refs in the game. Football moves fast and refs must make judgement calls without the benefit of hindsight..That is how it is, and that is how it should be...All you can ask for is fairness.
 
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Goal line video tech should have been brought in the day after Roy Carrol went 3 yrds over the line to scoop out Pedro Mendes' shot :yes:
 
Blatter is talking about bringing replay cameras into games.. Bullshit; I hope the Africans say no. The motherfucker is trying to run for another term in office, and without the the African block, he will not get it. Just like Joao Havelange paid attention to us on account of our numbers, Blatter will hopefully see the light and stop introducing ideas that could hurt the game. Why is that some people bitch when it happens to them, and pretend as if the world has ended. Who said anything when Fabiano handled the ball 2x against Ivory Coast. Who said anything when Suarez dived against South Africa.. We have suffered all these things, and the only time when Fifa actually changed the rules to address an injustice perpetrated on Africa was in 1982 when a Germany which had already been beaten by Algeria colluded with the other Nazi speaking country, Austria, to reach a result that benefitted and allowed both Austria and Germany to proceed at the expense of Algeria..


The reason why technology cannot be allowed in the game is that not everyone can afford it. It is the reason why it has not been allowed. The English may be bitching now that the were on the suffering end of a call. Since we have video evidence, I wonder if they would like us to review the dubious World Cup they won at the expense of Germany in 1966. Jeff Hurst's shot was not a goal. But we live and have moved on...

The English and Americans are the most bitching countries in the world. To this day, the motherfucking English still cry about the hand of God, though their selective amnesia allows them to forget the two Gary Lineker flops by which they eliminated Cameroon in 1990. The Americans have come and begun their own bitching, rumbling against the penalty justly given to Ghana in 2006. If they would learn football, they would know that that goon, Onyewu is a penalty waiting to happen... He think he is playing American rugby (known within the USA as football), where he is free to use his size to manhandle people...

Recently, they pilloried and vilified Mr Coulibaly, until it was shown that, he was no different form most of the refs in the game. Football moves fast and refs must make judgement calls without the benefit of hindsight..That is how it is, and that is how it should be...All you can ask for is fairness.

What's sickening is the hypocrisy involved with FIFA. If you fear technology, that's fine. I have no gripes about this. If you're scared, you're scared. But don't in turn allow Nike, and Adidas to revolutionize the sport because that's what's happened and it's removed any consistency from Blatter's argument.

Nike and Adidas have revolutionized the game. Lighter boots, aerodynamic footballs, all equal technology. If the heads at FIFA fear this so much, stop allowing players to wear $400 boots that are scientifically engineered by Nike. Stop allowing Adidas to revolutionize their footballs. Let the world play in old leather boots, and allow goalkeepers no gloves.

This would be consistency.

Blatter's argument is hypocrisy. :smh:

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the world's most popular sport is suffering at the hands of traditional values and living in the dark ages.

There was a time where there were no penalty kicks. No substitutions were allowed. The ball could be played back to the keeper, and he was allowed to use his hands. Things change, life changes, and football changes.

But for the moment the argument is pointless because Blatter has world football in a stronghold. People like him who are set in their ways have a limited view on things, and that's that.

The beautiful part about this is that nobody lives forever. His reign will end sooner or later, and football will at least be given the chance to open it's door to newer ideas.
 
What's sickening is the hypocrisy involved with FIFA. If you fear technology, that's fine. I have no gripes about this. If you're scared, you're scared. But don't in turn allow Nike, and Adidas to revolutionize the sport because that's what's happened and it's removed any consistency from Blatter's argument.

Nike and Adidas have revolutionized the game. Lighter boots, aerodynamic footballs, all equal technology. If the heads at FIFA fear this so much, stop allowing players to wear $400 boots that are scientifically engineered by Nike. Stop allowing Adidas to revolutionize their footballs. Let the world play in old leather boots, and allow goalkeepers no gloves.

This would be consistency.

Blatter's argument is hypocrisy. :smh:

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the world's most popular sport is suffering at the hands of traditional values and living in the dark ages.

There was a time where there were no penalty kicks. No substitutions were allowed. The ball could be played back to the keeper, and he was allowed to use his hands. Things change, life changes, and football changes.

But for the moment the argument is pointless because Blatter has world football in a stronghold. People like him who are set in their ways have a limited view on things, and that's that.

The beautiful part about this is that nobody lives forever. His reign will end sooner or later, and football will at least be given the chance to open it's door to newer ideas.

Good post
 
What's sickening is the hypocrisy involved with FIFA. If you fear technology, that's fine. I have no gripes about this. If you're scared, you're scared. But don't in turn allow Nike, and Adidas to revolutionize the sport because that's what's happened and it's removed any consistency from Blatter's argument.

Nike and Adidas have revolutionized the game. Lighter boots, aerodynamic footballs, all equal technology. If the heads at FIFA fear this so much, stop allowing players to wear $400 boots that are scientifically engineered by Nike. Stop allowing Adidas to revolutionize their footballs. Let the world play in old leather boots, and allow goalkeepers no gloves.

This would be consistency.

Blatter's argument is hypocrisy. :smh:

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the world's most popular sport is suffering at the hands of traditional values and living in the dark ages.

There was a time where there were no penalty kicks. No substitutions were allowed. The ball could be played back to the keeper, and he was allowed to use his hands. Things change, life changes, and football changes.

But for the moment the argument is pointless because Blatter has world football in a stronghold. People like him who are set in their ways have a limited view on things, and that's that.

The beautiful part about this is that nobody lives forever. His reign will end sooner or later, and football will at least be given the chance to open it's door to newer ideas.

Candle, yes you're right. The only thing we could wish for is that in 10, 20 years from now, there will be a new hierarchy within FIFA and someone with some good common sense will see this through. Football still does need its human element, but where there's a call where the referee is unsure, technology can help him make a decision. It works for most other sports so why not for football? What are they afraid of?
 
Candle, yes you're right. The only thing we could wish for is that in 10, 20 years from now, there will be a new hierarchy within FIFA and someone with some good common sense will see this through. Football still does need its human element, but where there's a call where the referee is unsure, technology can help him make a decision. It works for most other sports so why not for football? What are they afraid of?

It's funny cause like you said, FIFA fear the "elimination of the human element."

FIFA are apparently under the ridiculous impression that if you allow one thing in, there will be a domino effect, and soon the game will be ran by robots.

:cool: :smh:

Tennis is not robotic. American Football still has it's passion. Rugby, Cricket, Hockey, all these sports have maintained their fanbase with video technology implemented.

Replay would only help the human on the field that makes the decisions, make the most informed decision. How that would make him a robot is beyond me. Last I checked, he still has to make a decision.

All these blunders from the USA's and England's disallowed goals, Mexico's offsides, the handballs goals allowed against the Ivory Coast in a bind, all these things need to be addressed with more than just, "I apologize."

It's truly embarrassing to watch on FIFA's part.
 
What's sickening is the hypocrisy involved with FIFA. If you fear technology, that's fine. I have no gripes about this. If you're scared, you're scared. But don't in turn allow Nike, and Adidas to revolutionize the sport because that's what's happened and it's removed any consistency from Blatter's argument.

Nike and Adidas have revolutionized the game. Lighter boots, aerodynamic footballs, all equal technology. If the heads at FIFA fear this so much, stop allowing players to wear $400 boots that are scientifically engineered by Nike. Stop allowing Adidas to revolutionize their footballs. Let the world play in old leather boots, and allow goalkeepers no gloves.

This would be consistency.

Blatter's argument is hypocrisy. :smh:

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the world's most popular sport is suffering at the hands of traditional values and living in the dark ages.

There was a time where there were no penalty kicks. No substitutions were allowed. The ball could be played back to the keeper, and he was allowed to use his hands. Things change, life changes, and football changes.

But for the moment the argument is pointless because Blatter has world football in a stronghold. People like him who are set in their ways have a limited view on things, and that's that.

The beautiful part about this is that nobody lives forever. His reign will end sooner or later, and football will at least be given the chance to open it's door to newer ideas.


It is not a fear of technology, but a fear of inequality and unfairness. This is a world wide sport, not a sport for the rich and powerful. Up to this point, FIFA has abided by a philosophy that ensures fairness; the changes to which you refer, such as the offside rule, the prohibition by the defence to kick the ball back to the keeper, did not confer and advantage to the rich leagues. As for the boots, what you wear on the legs makes no big difference; however, there are specifications for balls that those who engineer technology cannot manipulate at will. If they came up witha ball which cost $500, Fifa would not mandate it. So Nike is fucked, and the less of their money they waste, the better for every one.

This game is doing just fine. It popularity is unrivalled throughout the planet. It does not need anymore changes, it is just fine.
 
will this one be decided by PK's

It may well go to penalties... Personally, I hope the Japanese lose for eliminating Ivory Coast from the tournament. Early in the second half, they attempted to take out the Paraguayan goalie the same way, but the Nazi survived.
 
It is not a fear of technology, but a fear of inequality and unfairness...

How do you figure this?

If you can broadcast a match, you have replay. It's not rocket science. Every country in the world has the ability to broadcast matches, even the poorer countries like an El Salvador, or a Madagascar. Two countries I have been to myself, they have the ability to broadcast football with full on replays for their audiences.
 
Nigeria has 160 million black people

Ethiopia has 80 million black people

Zaire has 70 million black people

Each of these countries have more black people than the USA. Why should the US be football superpower before they are?
easily

the american black is bigger, faster, and stronger due to unfortunate events of our past
 
It may well go to penalties... Personally, I hope the Japanese lose for eliminating Ivory Coast from the tournament. Early in the second half, they attempted to take out the Paraguayan goalie the same way, but the Nazi survived.

When did Japan play the Ivory Coast :confused:
 
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