Anal don't count neither to some of these new generation chicks. They save their virginity for whoever in their mystical fantasy minds they plan to marry.
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Very interesting thread.
No, she has an argument but definitely not a good one. He needs to type that shit out so he can visually see it and read it for himself.
I hear ya, but for me that’s a clear sign of incompatibility. I will not start hanging out with female friends because my lady wants to hang out with male friends. Unnecessarily arousing her competitive nature will just bring unwanted drama and anxiety into your relationship. For sanity, you’re better off with a woman that has a similar perspective on relationship to yours.
There’s too many fly sista’s out here with old school values to be fuckin wit these new aged chicks that have no boundaries.
Shit I got a damn good idea. I've had a married "work wife" before. Chick was sweet toward me, but overall very nasty and sneaky towqrd her husband.
Was at a party and asked a woman to dance. She said that she does not dance with men other than her husband! I understood and went on about my business. Women know the rules. They just want to push boundaries!
Sheiiitttt, same chick has a nigga at the office begging to be her work husband.
I dont play around in the office like that these days. If I did, the chick would have to be on the complete opposite side of the building from me.
Whooole other story that I'll add later when I'm in front of a keyboard
...after I hit the gym fellas I ain't forgot
Yea this topic came up in one of the very first disagreements me and my most recent ex had. This was the first time she floated the idea of me inviting her to happy hour with me and my boys, which led to a stupid-ass hypothetical conversation about dancing with other dudes. I told her if she's out with her girls she's free to dance with whoever (this is something I got out of my system through my experience with my ex-wife, who was a part time dance instructor), but that if me and her are out TOGETHER I expect to be a unit and I would not be cool with her "working the room" (I didnt use those words). She saw nothing wrong with it if my boys wanted to dance with her since "we all friends". Then I was like "If we're out as a couple, I expect to be out as a COUPLE. I wouldn't be cool with that, and if that's something that would bother me or cause any hurt feelings, than that should matter to you.." Her response: "Well what if you not letting me dance with your friends hurts MY feelings?"
So not only did she want to come be one of the guys, but she saw nothing wrong with dancing with other dudes in front of me and couldn't fathom why it would bother me. And again, I already know the answer in hindsight, but this was a chick that I was trying to give it a go with, a professional chick (for what its worth, Director of Finance at her place of employment), that thinks very highly of herself as far as being relationship material.The argument ended with her saying something like "If you feel that way in that situation, than maybe you have a problem with your BOYS, not me.." Always tryna make it seem like a jealousy thing (its not). Its a play your position thing. What do YOU want to be? My homegirl, or wife? You can get tossed up, but you'll be treated like what you ARE, not who you want to be. I'm cool with peoples decisions, but you ain't gonna take advantage of ME to have your fun and then talk your way out of your behavior.
The ultimate silencer came when I said: "Ok so you see nothing wrong with dancing with one of my boys if asked, right?"
Her: "No nothing at all. Guys and girls should be able to dance .."
Me: "Even if I was there, you wouldn't care?"
Her: "Guys and girls should be able to dance .."
Me: "So what if we're all having a good time, and one of my boys asks you to dance. But HIS GIRL is there too just chillin..you gonna dance with this dude right in front of his wife?"
Her:
Yea this topic came up in one of the very first disagreements me and my most recent ex had. This was the first time she floated the idea of me inviting her to happy hour with me and my boys, which led to a stupid-ass hypothetical conversation about dancing with other dudes. I told her if she's out with her girls she's free to dance with whoever (this is something I got out of my system through my experience with my ex-wife, who was a part time dance instructor), but that if me and her are out TOGETHER I expect to be a unit and I would not be cool with her "working the room" (I didnt use those words). She saw nothing wrong with it if my boys wanted to dance with her since "we all friends". Then I was like "If we're out as a couple, I expect to be out as a COUPLE. I wouldn't be cool with that, and if that's something that would bother me or cause any hurt feelings, than that should matter to you.." Her response: "Well what if you not letting me dance with your friends hurts MY feelings?"
The argument ended with her saying something like "If you feel that way in that situation, than maybe you have a problem with your BOYS, not me.." Always tryna make it seem like a jealousy thing (its not). Its a play your position thing. What do YOU want to be? My homegirl, or wife? You can get tossed up, but you'll be treated like what you ARE, not who you want to be. I'm cool with peoples decisions, but you ain't gonna take advantage of ME to have your fun and then talk your way out of your behavior.
The ultimate silencer came when I said: "Ok so you see nothing wrong with dancing with one of my boys if asked, right?"
Her: "No nothing at all. Guys and girls should be able to dance .."
Me: "Even if I was there, you wouldn't care?"
Her: "Guys and girls should be able to dance .."
Me: "So what if we're all having a good time, and one of my boys asks you to dance. But HIS GIRL is there too just chillin..you gonna dance with this dude right in front of his wife?"
Her:
Yep.
Men have/can ascend to six stages of moral develpoment; the top 3 stages is what creates a "justice based" morality. Stage 4 being "it's the law" Stage 6 being "It's the just thing to do."
Women rarely if ever venture passed stage 3. Stage 1-3 is what makes up a "care based" morality. Stage 3 being "because that person is good to me." with Stage 1 being "Because I'll get in trouble.". All three are based on one's FEELINGS about a situation.
In hindsight the only time I've seen a woman act on principle is when her feeling coincided with said principle. Her feelings being paramount.
Apply the stages to your story pimp and thank me later.
*two cents*
This is a great thread...I asked my lady today this question"In your opinion, what does a person have to do to NOT get cheated on?" She was like where is this coming from? and i said...oh well, just wanted your opinion...but reading this thread got me thinking about it...im of the opinion that you can do everything perfectly...and STILL get cheated on...if a person wants to cheat bad enough...they will do just that...thats why, as some of the bruhs in this thread have already said...you have to be a good picker initially and be on your toes with all of the signs and act accordingly..
I'll add this: One of my admitted flaws is that very rarely does a female "grow" on me over time. The 4 or 5 serious relationships I chose to have, there's been that spark from jump and I treat it serious, even when beginning with cautious optimism. Said another way I'm quick to categorize chicks VERY early in our relationship: potential wife material, dateable, bird or just friends.
I know it might seem like I'm simpin cuz Im complaining, but just being honest about a real relationship gone sideways in this instance.
I know it might seem like I'm simpin cuz Im complaining, but just being honest about a real relationship gone sideways in this instance.
This is true.
Chicks like that was either raised by a hoe or a mother that had them at a very young age sometimes it is one in the same. I already knew what they would say but I asked my sisters about the scenario and both of them said they cut off other chicks in their life that like to have male friends. My baby sister said them hoes always trying to influence you to be down too as a justification for their fuckery. My parents done good with them. Both are successful and have been married over 15 years to some good dudes. You some it up nicely, you can't have it both ways. Either you are wifey or other fill in blank, jump off, side piece, etc.Yea this topic came up in one of the very first disagreements me and my most recent ex had. This was the first time she floated the idea of me inviting her to happy hour with me and my boys, which led to a stupid-ass hypothetical conversation about dancing with other dudes. I told her if she's out with her girls she's free to dance with whoever (this is something I got out of my system through my experience with my ex-wife, who was a part time dance instructor), but that if me and her are out TOGETHER I expect to be a unit and I would not be cool with her "working the room" (I didnt use those words). She saw nothing wrong with it if my boys wanted to dance with her since "we all friends". Then I was like "If we're out as a couple, I expect to be out as a COUPLE. I wouldn't be cool with that, and if that's something that would bother me or cause any hurt feelings, than that should matter to you.." Her response: "Well what if you not letting me dance with your friends hurts MY feelings?"
The argument ended with her saying something like "If you feel that way in that situation, than maybe you have a problem with your BOYS, not me.." Always tryna make it seem like a jealousy thing (its not). Its a play your position thing. What do YOU want to be? My homegirl, or wife? You can get tossed up, but you'll be treated like what you ARE, not who you want to be. I'm cool with peoples decisions, but you ain't gonna take advantage of ME to have your fun and then talk your way out of your behavior.
The ultimate silencer came when I said: "Ok so you see nothing wrong with dancing with one of my boys if asked, right?"
Her: "No nothing at all. Guys and girls should be able to dance .."
Me: "Even if I was there, you wouldn't care?"
Her: "Guys and girls should be able to dance .."
Me: "So what if we're all having a good time, and one of my boys asks you to dance. But HIS GIRL is there too just chillin..you gonna dance with this dude right in front of his wife?"
Her:
“Relationship is a man's domain, I can explain that to you high level or low level. I'll just say we agree to disagree.”
Let’s just start here first, you’re not explaining anything at a high level, rather, you’re explaining things at a cac level, ignoring half of history and calling women “bitches.” It lacks deep thought!
“TITLE. A woman can ask, inquiry, hint, demand, assume, about the status she has in a man's life but it all comes down to that man must GIVE THE TITLE to her. You told your future wife what she was to you. All she could do is accept or reject it but she couldn't acquire it in her own power.”
As you acknowledged a woman has the power to accept or reject a man’s proposal, so we can also conclude that a man can’t acquire the title “husband” on his own power. Correct?
“This world and all worlds were built on the brains, brawn, and blood of men. Queens? What is a Queen but the King's bitch? Seriously, throughout history what kingdom has a woman built? Ruled, yes but at the death of the king. HER KING had to die.”
In regards to your understanding of history, *sigh* you’ve been schooled very well in Western “Civilization.”
In KMT alone I can name several Female Rulers whom declared themselves the “Niswt Bity,” so who did these women bow to? Furthermore, several of these Female Rulers initiated and participated in scientific expeditions that advance the nation. Outside of KMT in Africa we can look at other areas in which women played pivotal roles in its flourishment. For instance, in the Songhay Empire, a wealthy Wangara Lady financed the construction of the University of Sankore in Timbuktu. Till this day, no school starts without a woman blessing it.
“What is a Queen but the King's bitch?”
I agree with you, when you examine kingdoms (cac stuff), those Kings treated there Queens as bitches. I believe one of the King Henrys was beheading his Queens wholesale based on rumors.
However, under Black Rulership (different from kingdoms), the Male Ruler has respect for the Female counterpart.
Idk i hate the type of chicks ur talking bout that wanna take ALL my available time, I'm trying to spend time with other ppl I can't spend all my time with any single person
I agree. I had to boil all of the shit can happen down to one principle. The only thing you can control in your relationships is what you are prepared for. I learned a long time ago that you don't have to hit chick over the head with your preparedness because she rarely needs that level of preparation just to get her foot in the door of what could be a healthy relationship or personal success. Except for when she wants to big bigger than her pussy. Which is rarely the case. They normally get escorted out of that, "Your pussy is all you ever need club." And usually it's by force. That can be wasted energy going back forth unless you enjoy the verbal jousting. And chick's biggest beef is that mother nature and father time are undefeated for a reason.
Naw. I'm not saying they are needy and absolutely DEMAND all your time. I'm not talking about that type. I'm saying they would rather be with you than be out with random ass people.. especially some other nigga. Like they're cool if you go out and have some brings with the boys and watch a game, but they aren't trying to go with their girls for the weekend to the NBA all star game or go to see Keith Sweat with some random nigga and you at home on bgol
Truth be told he should assume she's either a) cheating on him or b) will cheat on him. (lol) She ain't a ride or die chick by any stretch of the imagination.
Co-Sign and very true! And double up on "Never" if she doesn't have any female friends, nothing but male!
I’ve had ten thousand conversations about married and serious couples maintaining relationships with the opposite sex, but even though I have never had to regulate that, it seems that when people are into each other and spend quality time together they naturally gravitate away from those outside relationships.
Chicks demand honest men, yet, they can’t even admit fault or accept responsibility. I’ve met only a few women who admitted their fuck ups in the relationships. Most become masters at spinning the blame back onto you. The claim they want honesty but in reality refuse to match yours. They lie like we lie and even better. We lie to em because deep down they don’t want the truth just the truth they need to hear to go on and do the shit they was planning to do.
Most women peak at stage 3.
Once you understand that- that in 95% of cases you are talking to a woman who doesn't apply/live be principles, because she doesn't understand them- the better off you'll be.
Look at my previous posts in this thread....
*two cents*
I agree, but why? What's the commonality amongst them in development that causes this stunt in morality and logic?
It may seem like juvenile explanation, but it's their inability to not be the star of the production. Especially when it comes to relationships. If they can't make it about them, then what is their purpose. Parents, friends, and kids be damned. A situation is only bigger than them when they have been ultimately defeated and their is nothing left to exploit. That's when you will see what they are truly made of. Any time you have a male friend, sibling, or associate exhibit this behavior, it's easier to deal with. "Do that fuck shit over there my nigga." A woman has access to the peak of your vunerability, they can be right by you when you sleep. When they know that they are supposedly your counterpart and they will always be needed, even at their lowest, where is the motivation to evolve beyond level 3? Personal success is for them to achieve. Deep down they know that they don't need to excel at the highest level in any field to be treated like they were created to be a grand prize. That's why there's much more space for them to roam in a world of comfortable chaos. Shit is all fucked up. Even when they are compliant, agreeable, or even downright submissive, it could just be a sleeper cell in the making. But since there is no alternative to women for me, I've learned to work around it. Any time you've come across one that knows that there is more to life then what they want to do, the dumb shit doesn't last long for them.
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IMHO and within my understanding...
As a whole women do not have an effect on their enivorment. Their enivorment has an effect on them. Stages 1, 2, and 3 to a certain extent.
Any effect they do have on their enivorment is allowed via a higher power. The right to vote was not 'won' by women but given to them by men.
Stages 4, 5, and 6 are constructs/ideas built on the person having the ability to effect their environment. These are our laws, social contracts, and principles. These will always be in the stewardship of men because to effect your environment you must have the ability to do so and at the rudimentary level that base is physicality.
In essence, men can have the capacity for higher moral understandings and musings because we have the heft to bring it into action and keep it in play. The first or last quarter mile of foreign policy is the military.
No grown woman can make any grown man do anything within her own power. Any power she has was given to her by other men...
...to keep those men in line. Women's right to vote had nothing about granting women the right to vote because they wanted it but expanding the voting pool in efforts to get certain men who wanted political power elected. That's why it happened. Seriously, look it up.
Women are not beholden to principles the way we are because they have no ability to enforce them. Any principle a woman claims to have is either lock-set with what she is literally feeling at the moment or forced upon her by an external force. Either way, she's not married to them.
That's why women sound baseless at times...they don't operate on one.
*two cents*
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