If you cant "call" them as a movement or not you kinda lose credibility on the topic bro.No Limit and Cash I can't call cause I wasn't in those streets - but both are primarily labels!
If you cant "call" them as a movement or not you kinda lose credibility on the topic bro.No Limit and Cash I can't call cause I wasn't in those streets - but both are primarily labels!
That's what you know Cam for?
I'll do you and mainman a favor and not even include anything before 1985...uh oh lol...who are your top 10?
This is what i call doubling down on stupid.i stand behind it 1000% and don't even consider myself a huge dipset fan currently.
im speaking strictly to influence on culture... influence that grows to be larger than the individuals who started things...
dips is there. top 5 maybe.
Props to Rell, his flow is underrated and he was always one of the realest in the crew.
I'll do you and mainman a favor and not even include anything before 1985...
Native tongue
Hitsquad
Wu
Bad Boy
Roc
NWA
Luke Records
Rap ALot
So So Def
Organized Noise
Death Row
Dre (post NWA Aftermath etc)
Cash Money
No Limit
both...I don't see why the words have to be mutually exclusive...it takes a crew/click to start a movement...but they were definitely a movement tho more than anything else
honorable mention = boot camp clik...nowhere near bigger than dipset tho...and I fuck w/ BCC music all the way...but I gotta be truthful about it
JD is Atlanta music bro.. HIGHLY underrated in that regard.damn niggas really like so so defgreat list otherwise...except dre on aftermath tho I don't see how that's a movement
Funny.
JD is Atlanta music bro.. HIGHLY underrated in that regard.
Aftermath brought you these guys......
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What you mean you wasn't in those streets? No Limit and Cash Money? Their shit was worldwide.I wasn't in those streets - thats where all movements start
and from what I do know about how both labels started - I'm not sure it would be much different than Rush DefJam or Violator or Ruthless
SUC too...that's what I liked about dipset...NYC had its movements before but dipset imo brought that down south hustling style to NYC...I'd argue that rocafella was a movement but it felt manufactured whereas the no limits the cash moneys etc felt "organic"...that's how dipset came across to me...like it was birthed in the streets and not in an exec's office or a studio
I ain't gonna lie I must've missed that So So Def run. I got respect for JD career but his label wasn't really that good. He had like 4 good artist in a span of 20 years lol.damn niggas really like so so defgreat list otherwise...except dre on aftermath tho I don't see how that's a movement
G Unit is under Aftermmath.. I consolidated as a favor to you nigga. Show some appreciation.. And So So Def essentially but an entire region (region which now OWNS hip hop) on the map bro... Please stop..the addition of soso def and the omission of g unit is a problem here... outside of the dipset issue.
somebody explain how soso def was a movement.
niggas in atlanta didn even like soso def. it was like "ah this spoiled ass nigga jermaine is getting a few checks"
GUnit wasnt a movement? Surely you jest.ehh I think this is where the definition of movement gets muddled...I totally see where you're coming from tho
Yea.. you were shittin pampers.I ain't gonna lie I must've missed that So So Def run.
this.
they even expanded to uk and had dipset euro gang. remember SAS.
GUnit wasnt a movement? Surely you jest.
Ask Black folks what they know Cam'ron for and see what they all answer with. We all know he is a rapper but folks gone say he played Rico. Cam is a meme that is viral from that movie.
jim jones=starscreamfrom the bits and pieces of both sides...sounds like cam and jim got cool...cam brought the music...jim brought the muscle (not himself but niggas he knew)...jim got in on the music and started smelling himself...cam removed himself from the bullshit
Yea.. you were shittin pampers.
Come on man you know they movement wasn't shit man. Jd had a good run but I don't know about the whole brand.
Top 10 in what way?that's pure hate fam.
i clown nyc on the regular but the diplomat movement was a top 10 movement in hiphop. top 10 = legendary.
yeah- and maybe my pov on it is stuck in 1983-82Yo, @ViCiouS don't you think a clique has to get the community involved first, like the BPP?
If you cant "call" them as a movement or not you kinda lose credibility on the topic bro.
Bad Boy? Death Row? Dre? SoSo? NWA? HitSquad? Roc? these are labelmates groups and clicks - thats like claiming Violator is same as WuI'll do you and mainman a favor and not even include anything before 1985...
Native tongue
Hitsquad
Wu
Bad Boy
Roc
NWA
Luke Records
Rap ALot
So So Def
Organized Noise
Death Row
Dre (post NWA Aftermath etc)
Cash Money
No Limit
This is what i call doubling down on stupid.
its still a label nothing more.JD is Atlanta music bro.. HIGHLY underrated in that regard.
Aftermath brought you these guys......
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popularity or commercial success of a label or management by its self doesn't equal a movement... but I'm not saying they aren't a movement - I'm saying I couldn't see their roots - cause I know NOTHING about NOLAWhat you mean you wasn't in those streets? No Limit and Cash Money? Their shit was worldwide.
hmm; thats kinda pushing it fam; I dont know about that one; what would you say the impact from dipset was?? and if thats the qualifications, I would think there would be more than 10 hiphop artist and/or groups that had bigger impacts; and does this include all things hip hop, in terms of record labels, clothing lines, etc??? I think you need to be a little more specific...impact on hiphop culture globally
having the streets love you so much that ur popularity forced the industry to take notice and push u.. they(well duke the god) made a shitload of bread off them og dipset mixtapes, they made a shitload of bread off them stop snitching shirts and other clothing items, they got heavy rotation in a lot of clubs in ny, had a huge street fanbase in ny and other places...they eventually all had hits.. even lil wayne took notice and formed a friendship with juelz which many believe that elevated lil wayne skills..than they had hood movies that moved a lil something/something... it's pretty much an underground situation that elevated into a bigger project.. crazy thing is it could've gotten bigger but ego's, juelz bad habits and laziness, and a few other things got in the way of itTop 10 in what way?
I can feel that; but I think we need to qualify top 10; because do we throw in clothing designers or record labels; or are we talking about groups only?? I mean there are alot of different aspects to it; but I do think they had a substantial mark; im not sure top 10 though...having the streets love you so much that ur popularity forced the industry to take notice and push u.. they(well duke the god) made a shitload of bread off them og dipset mixtapes, they made a shitload of bread off them stop snitching shirts and other clothing items, they got heavy rotation in a lot of clubs in ny, had a huge street fanbase in ny and other places...they eventually all had hits.. even lil wayne took notice and formed a friendship with juelz which many believe that elevated lil wayne skills..than they had hood movies that moved a lil something/something... it's pretty much an underground situation that elevated into a bigger project
And yes Gucci has influenced atl hip hop more; but Outcast had way of a bigger impact on ATL then anyone or anything in the south; to me...GUnit didnt start out under aftermath. In fact, Aftermath may mark the END of Gunit as a movement now that I think about it.
G Unit had the world buzzing w/ those mixtapes.
Gucci influenced Atlanta hiphop more than Jermaine Dupri ever did. What?
i was trying to be nice cause i kno how sensitive nigs get on the situation/subject..i was gonna say wayne was def influenced by juelzwayne stole juelz ENTIRE style during that era (walletchains, skull and bones tees)...
No. Im consolidating movements.. If it makes you feel better remove Aftermath and insert GUnit.. But then you'd have to add Eminem as he was a movement in and of himself... Enjoy your sunday dinner.I never said that...I don't agree that aftermath is a movement tho just bcuz 50 signed to dre under that imprint...I understand your premise...just don't agree w/ it...you're doing some "by proxy" type shit
No. Im consolidating movements.. If it makes you feel better remove Aftermath and insert GUnit.. But then you'd have to add Eminem as he was a movement in and of himself... Enjoy your sunday dinner.
I think The Dungeon Family... was super influential. So much talent but something I can't really describe makes that different than DipSet and WuTang MOVEMENTS.
Let me be clear. More talent came out of Dungeon Family than came out of DipSet. But a movement... is something else...
I think NYC had the advantage because its the birthplace of hiphop so a place people naturally looked to follow for a long time.