You think black people need a certificate/marriage license in order to be married?Highly disagree
You think black people need a certificate/marriage license in order to be married?Highly disagree
Seriously? You know damn well it's easy as fuck to get pussy for SOME cats. Ain't no fucking false narrative. It's a reality. We going to compare MARRIED cats on BGOL to women who probably weren't even married to one of the people they had children by? You talking about marriage when more than 1/3 of black children under the age of 18 live with UNMARRIED mothers. FACTS. Just stop.you do know relationships end right? Are you still with the same woman you loss your virginity to? A person having two or more diff partners that they have children with doesn't means it was a reckless situation...could be a long term relationship ended and they found someone new who they eventually have kids with...ya believe this false narrative that these people with multiple child bearers are one night stands , reckless fucking, etc ...there are dudes on this board that's been married twice..you think after the first marriage they might not want to start a new family with the new wife? How many dudes on this board got multiple baby mothers? Do you think it was shorty told me she was preggo and I ran for the hills ? Or a long term relationship that juss end up not working out? Yeah there's a demographic of reckless fucking but who said that dominates the numbers of multiple partners with children
facts there are lots of people that have different baby mamas and baby fathers cause their long term relationships ended and they found a new long term relationship... They wouldn't dare post that cause it destroys there narrative of the reckless unprotective sex black female they are trying to push...they won't dare post lots of white women having abortions at a high rate to eliminate the percentage of them having multiple baby fathers...or they won't post the fact that new paternity test are showing some guys are taking care of children that aren't theirs aka the increase infidelity in white relationships...them two or 3 children in that white marriage might not all be the husband..but that awh ole another topicSeriously? You know damn well it's easy as fuck to get pussy for SOME cats. Ain't no fucking false narrative. It's a reality. We going to compare MARRIED cats on BGOL to women who probably weren't even married to one of the people they had children by? You talking about marriage when more than 1/3 of black children under the age of 18 live with UNMARRIED mothers. FACTS. Just stop.
Just eliminate the BUT on the second bolded statement. Modern women in the west are encouraged to engage in reckless fucking. Why try to cop pleas? Can't solve a fucking problem if you don't admit there is one. Pussy is extremely easy to get. Women getting busted in raw by cats who are sport fucking OR aren't really committed to them. Government supports the woman. That's not every case, but it's more often than not.
And when I say government supports the women, I"m not suggesting the women are lazy or not working. I'm saying a women ain't got to worry about shit. The prenatal taken care of if she ain't got the funds. Everything the baby needs when it's born is taken care of. All she need do is give up the baby daddy to Sam.
There are no consequences like there have been throughout human history and we have some people actually trying to cop fucking pleas. We go from 10s of thousands of years of women having to be careful who they have babies by to Sam paying for everything AND feminists claiming women can't be hoes. It's damn near an acknowledged fact that these cacs have used the war on poverty to extract the black man from the family and folks running around here coppin' pleas. It's unreal.
Women have shown throughout history that they can be selective with mates. This reckless shit started in the 1960s. FACTS.
RAW.Here comes the black women hate while trying to avoid the fact that black men have just as much to do with this
Bro those reality court shows be fake b
If white America did a paternity test of all their children they would prob find out that white women do have multiple baby fathers...the sucker at home will find out all them kids in his home ain't actually his.. America ain't gonna touch that topictruth is that white america would love this problem since thier numbers are going down , and need more children
Come on man. You work around women, right? You get pussy easily, right? How many of those women begging you to strap up. If they do, that shit goes completely out the window after the first time. Anyone who is being fucking honest about this knows that there is a lot of reckless shit going on with WESTERN women.facts there are lots of people that have different baby mamas and baby fathers cause their long term relationships ended and they found a new long term relationship... They wouldn't dare post that cause it destroys there narrative of the reckless unprotective sex black female they are trying to push...they won't dare post lots of white women having abortions at a high rate to eliminate the percentage of them having multiple baby fathers...or they won't post the fact that new paternity test are showing some guys are taking care of children that aren't theirs aka the increase infidelity in white relationships...them two or 3 children in that white marriage might not all be the husband..but that awh ole another topic
Some of y’all just hate black women
Well if you actually want to use my bizz as an example...well they def want to strap up cause getting preggo fucks up their money due to they use their visual appearance to make money... Lot of them have rubbers on deck as well as i.. Maybe you deal with a lot of reckless females.. I'm not caught up in narratives I juss know what they want to push as an agenda...wa snt you the 1 talking about the sky is falling in the prostitution thread thinking that tricks gonna get football numbers cause you believe some propaganda piece thinking John's are gonna be charged with human trafficking...you fall for these narratives and propaganda pieces very easily in a lot of threads...that's why you in here thinking multiple baby daddies mean some 1 night stand went wrong, some chick that never had the child father in its life, some chick choosing the wrong guy...when in actuality it could be long term relationships that ended and another life was started with a diff individual... You want to strongly believe the negative stereotypes that cacs pushed instead of what I'm actually saying...that's why I brought up bgol members with multiple babymothers... They will literally tell you a relationship didn't workout and They started a new family with another chick...that's to positive for you , you like the ca c narrative of reckless black women depending on welfare fucking mad drugdealer storyline..congratulations you fell for the bullshitCome on man. You work around women, right? You get pussy easily, right? How many of those women begging you to strap up. If they do, that shit goes completely out the window after the first time. Anyone who is being fucking honest about this knows that there is a lot of reckless shit going on with WESTERN women.
You're so caught up in supposed narratives and coppin' pleas that you won't address the facts that you know. Women have become reckless. That's why you try to bring up white women and abortions. Well, if black women had abortions like white women then we wouldn't be discussing this, right? You making my point for me.
You bringing up paternity like it only affects cacs. Come on man. Step back. Stop worrying about cacs. Address the facts about what is affecting the black community.
Black women have very lax attitudes about government dependency. The laws are set up that the more children they have, the more resources are available to them.
why aren’t men committing and marrying women they have kids with or relationships they’re in with single mothers? Why isn’t marriage working? Deduce all the stereotypical examples and what’s left?
You not with your first wife right? 2nd marriage right? Well if you had a kid with your first than you had a kid with your 2nd wife that means you would literally have 2 babymamas... Well flip the script and say a female had 2 diff marriages and had at least 1 kid in each she now has 2 baby fathers... Well that could actually be the case with these alleged numbers...take away marriage and put long term relationships instead...that could be why the numbers are like thatThis ain't got nothing to do with hating on black women, I love black women and have proclaimed my love for sisters on BGOL since day one. Still, we can talk about issues affecting our community amongst ourselves though right?
You not with your first wife right? 2nd marriage right? Well if you had a kid with your first than you had a kid with your 2nd wife that means you would literally have 2 babymamas... Well flip the script and say a female had 2 diff marriages and had at least 1 kid in each she now has 2 baby fathers... Well that could actually be the case with these alleged numbers...take away marriage and put long term relationships instead...that could be why the numbers are like that
I juss said replace marriage with long term relationship... That doesn't defeat my theory... Some people aren't into the commercial celebration of two individuals togetherness aka marriage...some people like long term relationship/life partners or don't believe in marriageI'm not doubting that. Except for the fact that 70% of black women have children out of wedlock and never see a wedding day. That defeats your theory.
I juss said replace marriage with long term relationship... That doesn't defeat my theory... Some people aren't into the commercial celebration of two individuals togetherness aka marriage...some people like long term relationship/life partners or don't believe in marriage
Again, what fucking narratives?Well if you actually want to use my bizz as an example...well they def want to strap up cause getting preggo fucks up their money due to they use their visual appearance to make money... Lot of them have rubbers on deck as well as i.. Maybe you deal with a lot of reckless females.. I'm not caught up in narratives I juss know what they want to push as an agenda...wa snt you the 1 talking about the sky is falling in the prostitution thread thinking that tricks gonna get football numbers cause you believe some propaganda piece thinking John's are gonna be charged with human trafficking...you fall for these narratives and propaganda pieces very easily in a lot of threads...that's why you in here thinking multiple baby daddies mean some 1 night stand went wrong, some chick that never had the child father in its life, some chick choosing the wrong guy...when in actuality it could be long term relationships that ended and another life was started with a diff individual... You want to strongly believe the negative stereotypes that cacs pushed instead of what I'm actually saying...that's why I brought up bgol members with multiple babymothers... They will literally tell you a relationship didn't workout and They started a new family with another chick...that's to positive for you , you like the ca c narrative of reckless black women depending on welfare fucking mad drugdealer storyline..congratulations you fell for the bullshit
Now this is a conservative talking point. You're assuming all sisters are on public assistance, they aren't. The only issue I see is cultural where having multiple children for multiple men isn't stigmatized. Having kids out of wedlock isn't stigmatized either.
Black women abort less. Period, point blank. White women and Asians abort at a way higher rate.
They did the studying in the 1960s. Right now, they just reviewing the results of the policies they implemented.Interesting "studies" they're doing these days.
How can you commit to someone "you aren't with and just fucking"? The MYTH that black men take off is bullshit. People are meeting, fucking (no strings) she gets pregnant and the dude (who never planned on being with her outside of a quick nut) bounces. The question is, why does a woman want to have children with a man she's
1. not with
2. Barely knows?
The question is, why does a woman want to have children with a man she's
1. not with
2. Barely knows?
Actually I know a shitload of individuals who have long term relationships/marriage with more than 1 individual...that's exactly why I'm sharing this viewpoint... I know various dudes with more than 1 babymother and no they are "low lives of drug dealers or losers" they are college graduates, career men, bizz owners that happen to have a long term relationship and than found another 1...same goes with females... 1 of my boys bout to have his 4th kid next month... He had 2 from a previous marriage and now his 2nd from his current marriage...1 of my boys juss had his first child a few days ago with his girl who had a previous child in her marriage to someone else... This s hit been happening... People breakup after 10, 15, 20 yrs than find somebody else... Been happening and will continue to happen... All these people have careers or are bizz owners... But nobody wants to believe that narrative cause it's to positive... By the way all black people aren't from the hood and successful people do breakup with 1 anotherBro, be real. If you've been in the hood like I have and ran the street like I have. How many women with multiples (and this goes for men too) were in "long term" relationships? Very few bruh. I'll keep saying, a lot of this is cultural. There is no stigma for having multiple children for multiple people (both for men and women) in our communities.
I don't know why this study focused "just on black women" but it did.
long term relationship dosent necessarily means marriage...there's a reason why terms called common law marriage exist is because not everybody believes in marriage but a lot of people do believe in long term commitment... When I say long term relationship I know people that have been together for decades no marriage..people that been together 8 yrs or longer and have kid or kids..so yes lots of these type of situations exist... It's why the propaganda machine likes to use terms out of wedlock cause it's points a negative picture but doesn't necessarily mean a women is not in a committed relationshipAgain, what fucking narratives?
You keep harping on the fact about long-term relationships. Why? The fucking marriage stats don't support your argument. These women aren't getting committed to and are having children. Again, not a fucking narrative, it's a fact supported by data.
You keep going on and fucking on about long-term relationships. Post the numbers for percent of children by married people by race. I'll wait.
In fact, I challenge you to come up with any fucking SOURCED numbers/facts to support your argument. Not your anecdotal clams of random BGOL members. Post some sources are just stop. You haven't even posted shit to refute the OP's numbers. Just fucking conspiracy claims.
I don't fall for propaganda pieces. Unlike you, I think objectively and deal with facts no matter if the results are something I don't like. lol @ you bringing up human trafficking. They pass more laws each year and need to fill up their prisons. Keep thinking it's all sweet.
This isn't a HATE BLACK WOMEN post. It's a discussion of a study (faulty or not)
Who's at fault in these situations? And if it's BOTH, then how do we turn it around?
https://wzakcleveland.com/2665761/black-women-have-highest-rate-of-children-with-different-fathers/
A new study shows that the rate of American women who have children with multiple fathers, also called “multiple-father family structure,” is “pervasive.”
According to the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth, 1 in 5 American Moms has kids with different birth fathers.
And you probably already know what’s next.
Black Mothers lead the list: 59 percent of us have children with more than one father, while Hispanics come in second place at 35 percent and whites come in last at 22 percent.
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According to the study’s author Cassandra Dorius, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Michigan Institute for Social Research, “[Mothers with multiple fathers for their children] are more likely to be underemployed, to have lower incomes and to be less educated.”
According to the study, families with multiple fathers are stressed out, with issues often arising about how to consistently raise a child in different households:
“Everyday decisions are more complex and family rules are more ambiguous,” Dorius says. “Families need to figure out who lives with whom and when, who pays for things like clothing, who is responsible for child support.”
The most unsettling theory about the high rate of children with different fathers is when the study considers what the outcome will be for the children involved:
“It’s possible that some of these kids will be multiply disadvantaged.”
Esteemed psychologist of the “Today Show” and resident psychologist of VH-1’s “Daddy Day Camp” Dr. Jeff Gardere, talked with BlackVoices.com about this issue:
“In the past, multiple fathers was more of a product of poverty and the ravages of racism in the black community. And we do know that it caused more conflict and confusion for the kids and a harder time for mom’s to manage.”
Unlike study author Dorius’ assessment, Dr. Gardere doesn’t see a bleak picture for the majority of children who are brought up in households with multiple fathers:
“Kids can still thrive psychologically when there has been more than one father in the lives of their families.”
To Dr. Gardere, this latest study actually exposes a positive development in society:
“I believe that instead of just seeing this as a deficit issue, I want to look at it from a strength base view point. It now seems this phenomenon may be based not just on poverty and racism, but more on the issues of lower marriage rates, higher divorce rates, less available men who are willing to totally commit and women who can either go it alone or manage the situation with multiple fathers.”
Honestly, I think we do ourselves — and our children — a disservice by trying to put a positive spin on these findings. It is no secret that many of our children are not only growing up with multiple fathers but without fathers.
And we see how far that has gotten us.
I think I can speak for most black women that no one plans to have children by different men. For many of these women, the children produced with different men occur in unplanned pregnancies.
Now sure, many will argue that black women definitely need to be more discerning about the men that they sleep with and use birth control — and they are right.
But it isn’t as though some black women haven’t been able to come up with this on their own. There are, albeit not as many, a number of black women, who I know personally, who refuse to have a child out of wedlock. Some of these women are still waiting to conceive deep in to their 40s with no suitor in sight.
So there is a problem.
And the other side of that problem is indeed some black men.
For some of those hardworking Mothers with different baby daddys, there is a major discrepancy between what they and their significant other want. I don’t know how many black men I’ve seen who will date the Mother of their children for years.
These men love their children and more often than not take care of their responsibilities, but when it comes to making the relationships they have with their women official, there’s a lot of backpedaling.
When I have asked jokingly (no pressure) when they are going to put a ring on their lady’s finger, they are quick to say that they aren’t the marrying type — too bad they didn’t realize that they also aren’t the father type.
And when said woman gets tired of waiting, she often breaks it off with her child’s father and starts the next relationship anew, hoping that this relationship will be the one that finally elevates her from “girlfriend” and “baby’s mama” to “wife.”
And for many, their day hasn’t come yet: the last wasted relationship is followed by yet another and another, and children are unfortunately created in between.
Black women need to shoulder their share of the responsibility about using birth control until a man has proven that he wants to be in a committed relationship (read: married). But there is an equally troubling issue with some black men: why are they comfortable “dating” their baby mama for 10 years and never making it official, causing many of these kids to be born out of wedlock?
This question — and so many others — needs answering.
We owe it to our children.
Here comes the black women hate while trying to avoid the fact that black men have just as much to do with this
THE EASY ANSWER IS THIS...THERE IS NO BENEFIT OF MODERN MARRIAGE FOR MEN. WITH THE DIVORCE LAWS AND COURTS BEING NOTORIOUSLY UNEQUITABLE FOR MEN, MEN ARE AVOIDING MARRIAGE. YOU DONT NEED A MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE TO DO RIGHT BY YOUR WOMAN, PROVIDE FOR YOUR CHILD OR HAVE A FULFILLING RELATIONSHIP.
***NOW WATCH SOME ONE COME IN HERE TRYING TO HATE ON THE FACTS.
Men are logical creatures and usually do what makes sense not what some romantic comedy or fairy tale book told them they should do. All of this femnism and mee too and i am woman hear me roar stuff is going full circle. no man would sign up for any deal where there is a 50% chance of failure and he gets to lose his life's assets and childrens relationships at the end of the deal.
My man, you keep talking anecdotes. You jump from 'know' to 'lots of these types of situations exist' off just anecdotes. While I'm not disputing these cases and know of some myself, this is not the norm for American society.long term relationship dosent necessarily means marriage...there's a reason why terms called common law marriage exist is because not everybody believes in marriage but a lot of people do believe in long term commitment... When I say long term relationship I know people that have been together for decades no marriage..people that been together 8 yrs or longer and have kid or kids..so yes lots of these type of situations exist... It's why the propaganda machine likes to use terms out of wedlock cause it's points a negative picture but doesn't necessarily mean a women is not in a committed relationship
I think the more appropriate question would be “why does a woman have sex with a guy that she’s not with or barely knows?” And same question for guys. Why have sex with women we’re not with and barely know?
It’s not like people are too dumb to realize that if your have sex, then you could possible get preganant.
People just don’t want to practice self control or take accountability for their actions and behaviors when it comes to pregnancy. People will do whatever’s possible to alleviate their part in poor decision making on their end.
The irony is that there are almost 500,000 more black men married in this country than black women. Men are still told they need women and marriage in our community. Women are told to get a "good job", education so they "dont need a (black) man". Conflicting idelogies for sure, and this is the result. Hypersexual (mostly overweight) masculine minded women wit packs of kids that will never walk down an aisle. And upwardly mobile black men checking out pursuing black women from and in other countries.