Black Women Have Highest Rate of Children with Different Fathers Study says:
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So many men are not willing or want to get married .
What are women supposed to do just only get pregnant by the men that wanna get married?
That would be fine if the ratio of women that want kids and men that want to get married to women in their child bearing years was 1:1
But that just aint the case. It is more women wanting children then men that want to be married
This is false. Statistically American black women get married less than any group on planet earth, including American black men. There are roughly 500,000 more married black men in the states than black women. Black women also have a higher divorce rate than black men, but thats another story. Black men are not nuclear family adverse, American black women are and always have been since slavery.
That isnt false. Yes black women get married less. But even the ones that are not married want to get married.
If there are 20 people in a room. 10 black women and 10 black female. Lets assume they all of child bearing years.
If 8/10 bw want to get married and have kids. The only way it will work is the men 8/10 of them want to get married and have kids.
If 7/10 wanna get married and have kids that leaves 1 woman or 10% of the women unable to get married and have kids. So what is she to do? Not get married and not have kids?
She would have to hope the other 2/10 at least want kids/or marriage. And if the 2/10 men only want kids she gonna settle just for that
Here's my quote from the thread "The single mother cycle-is this true?
Each situation is different.
- One situation could be a woman who went thru the bad boy/thug phase and then cleaned up their shit and had another baby with a man who had his shit together.
- Another situation could be a bitch who is just a slut and is popping out kids quicker than her vagina can heal.
Each situation is different.
- One situation could be a woman who went thru the bad boy/thug phase and then cleaned up their shit and had another baby with a man who had his shit together.
- Another situation could be a bitch who is just a slut and is popping out kids quicker than her vagina can heal.
Most do not want to get married. They are lying. They want to get pregnant and have children. They define themselves by motherhood not by how great of a wife they could be. American black women set themselves up for marriage worse than any group of women in Earth and the stats show that. Black women are pro swirling so why arent other groups of men wifing them up since you say its not enough black men to go around? Because they see them as "un wifeable" like many black men are starting to wake up and see. You actually have black women opening "wife schools" now tryna teach these strong masculine career types how to be lady like and soft again.
No most of these women do want to get married. I understand you aknowledge they say that but think they lying. But consider how many women pressure men into marriage or give men ultimatums that you got a year to marry me or im out . Or women that think that it is ok for her to have a side nigga if the main nigga aint tryin to wife or until he wifes her.
How many of these women want to live with their partner but want the safety net in the event of a divorce....
They want the social status of being married now that black society isnt propping single moms up no more. But they have no desire to be a wife. There is a difference. And their urgency for marriage usually doesnt come until after they laid down and created babies with other men, stacked a bunch of bodies, packed on lbs and are closely approaching the wall in their late 30s. They not giving or saving they absolute best for they men and we starting to see that. If you a black men that wants marriage but have standards, youre fucked!
Also never said there aint enough black men to go around said there arent enough black men that want to get married .
White men dont wanna marry their fetish
This. And they understand that society wont give them that social status unless they are married. And they understand that if they want that they have to me married . Never said they wanted to get married for the right reasons
If black men didnt want to get married there wouldnt be half a million more black men married in this country than black women. Black men like every other man on this planet, dont want to marry women who have no business being married. Unfortunately that describes alot of worldly women in the west. Black women in Africa tend to be more traditonal so they dont have the putrid marriage rates you see here.
We arent talking about the men that are married. We talkin about the men that dont wanna get married. At least i am.
The men that dont wanna get married rather they see no benefit in it or they m.g.t.o.w they have a big affect on the dating market. Huge. It causes or drives hypergamg actually.
Women are socialized from lil girls about being married and playing with barbie dolls and thinking bout they wedding dress and prom.....men aren't.
Men play with action figures that fight each other. We think about prom the year of prom. We 2 different animals
Compare the numbers of men that dont eanna get married vs the numbers of women that dont wanna get married.
Bro how can you push this "men dont want to be married" narrative when the stats show men do and are married more than women. MGTOW and red pill is new to the black community. Its just now catching on. I agree that black women fucked themselves and red pill will be kicking their ass the next 30 years, but that hasnt taken effect yet. Black men are still socialized to have a women lord over them thru marriage and children. Black men are still told they NEED a woman in they life to be whole. It is black women whove been told for 3 decades they dont need no man and to throw themselves into job titles, degrees, sexual liberation, etc over traditional family structure. Since the 70s when laws changed, theyve had free reign to do just that. Theyve been WGTOW, theyve been checked out. Now the brothers are starting to do the same. Black men have options, some will opt out of marriage completely others will wife black women in other parts of the diaspora, others will swirl. I just dont support the notion theres this abundance of black women dying to be married that black men just wont for no good reason. No one should feel entitled to marriage, its grueling work that not everyone is built for.
Like the man said, nobody in his right mind wants to marry a toxic bitch unless he's a worthless fuckboy. If you have a poor attitude and misbehaved children nobody worth anything will come into that situation and save her. Doesn't matter the color of the woman. If she has fewer children and the ones she has are well behaved many men will step to her especially if he has children of his own. However the women I see on WSSH and the gram acting a fool and thinking that having a pussy makes them valuable to men, in general, have a rude awakening coming to them.
The part in bold ^^^
There are tons of videos like these. You not gonna see "why are women avoiding marriage".
Men are. And your stats dont factor in men that got married simply cuz they was nagged into it or men that are married that dont want to be married anymore.
And i dont know how you saying blac men are socialized to have black women rule over them.....when i grew up it was bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks, fuck bitches get money. That is how i was socialized. We may have been socialised to have sex with multiple women as we often would insult each other with "thats why you dont get no pussy". Never "thats why you dont have a wife".
Only people peer pressuring men to get married are women. Only people peer pressured men to have kids is women. And usually single mothers ironically.
Because women understand they receive most of the benefits from marriage. Wedding day is about the bride, not the groom. Socially being married is validation for women, but we cant pretend there are no social pressures for men. As a Wilt Chamberlain fan and single man myself I can tell you society at large is more trusting and sees married men as more mature than those that arent. We havent had a single non married President in over 150 years and wont anytime soon.
We cant qualify that. There are women that married beta males they dont respect just to say they married. There are women who are married and miserable. Works both ways. Fact is, more black men stand at alters than black women for whatever reason. And theyre more willing to stay married, black women initiate 80% of their divorces.
Because women understand how the laws benefit them and understand how much more they get out of legal marriage then men. They also arent able to procreate as long as men can so there is more sense of urgency at times on their part. Growing up none of us said "I wanna wife a bitch wit 2 kids" or "i wanna marry a fat bitch with mouth" but that's exactly what alot of black men do. Black men have no issue with marriage or having that 1 ride or die, they just understand its slim pickings out here.
Woman has a baby before marriage, that relationship doesn’t work out.
Woman finds a new man, gets married and has a baby. Now she’s a woman with children with from different fathers.
Or
Woman gets in a relationship and has a baby, that relationship doesn’t work out.
Woman moves on, has a baby a few years later with a new man.
She’s now also a woman with children from two different fathers.
It happens.
Women know how babies work. If you don’t want them, take the steps necessary not to have them.
Men should do the same.
Woman finds a new man, gets married and has a baby. Now she’s a woman with children with from different fathers.
Or
Woman gets in a relationship and has a baby, that relationship doesn’t work out.
Woman moves on, has a baby a few years later with a new man.
She’s now also a woman with children from two different fathers.
It happens.
Women know how babies work. If you don’t want them, take the steps necessary not to have them.
Men should do the same.
If you have more than.one baby mama, then YOU are the problem. We promote a culture of smash the coochie and dash than stay and build a family and wealth. A lack of fathers in homes is one of the primary reasons why black household wealth is so far behind everyone else. This ain't on black women, this is on brothers. We need to be better.
You don't even have to use race to talk about the male/female situation in this country. Since the 60s and white feminism, western women in general been told they don't need men. Sam and the family courts(contrary to what some misguided men on bgol claim) back them. Meanwhile, men have been told to put up with it and have been reduced to the role of just ATMs.
Now as with most bad shit in this country, the situation seems to be amplified in the black community.
As for marriage, why is it that white women know white men don't want ready-made families and let that dictate their choices even during their wild years? They are more likely to use birth control AND use a form that doesn't rely on the man to participate. They are more likely to have abortions. So when everyone gets serious in their mid to late 20s, white women are less likely to have children.
White men aren't told they have to accept ready-made families to be real men. Black men are basically told they have to settle for ready-made families. Obviously, that ain't happening. And since we know by the numbers that white women are taking most of the responsibility of preventing ready-made families in the white community(by using birth control and abortion), why is it black men catch so much heat?
Why is it 'takes two to have a baby' in the black community but white women handling most the birth prevention burden in their world?
You don't even have to use race to talk about the male/female situation in this country. Since the 60s and white feminism, western women in general been told they don't need men. Sam and the family courts(contrary to what some misguided men on bgol claim) back them. Meanwhile, men have been told to put up with it and have been reduced to the role of just ATMs.
Now as with most bad shit in this country, the situation seems to be amplified in the black community.
As for marriage, why is it that white women know white men don't want ready-made families and let that dictate their choices even during their wild years? They are more likely to use birth control AND use a form that doesn't rely on the man to participate. They are more likely to have abortions. So when everyone gets serious in their mid to late 20s, white women are less likely to have children.
White men aren't told they have to accept ready-made families to be real men. Black men are basically told they have to settle for ready-made families. Obviously, that ain't happening. And since we know by the numbers that white women are taking most of the responsibility of preventing ready-made families in the white community(by using birth control and abortion), why is it black men catch so much heat?
Truth
We are expected to save raggedy broads and smile about it.
You don't even have to use race to talk about the male/female situation in this country. Since the 60s and white feminism, western women in general been told they don't need men. Sam and the family courts(contrary to what some misguided men on bgol claim) back them. Meanwhile, men have been told to put up with it and have been reduced to the role of just ATMs.
Now as with most bad shit in this country, the situation seems to be amplified in the black community.
As for marriage, why is it that white women know white men don't want ready-made families and let that dictate their choices even during their wild years? They are more likely to use birth control AND use a form that doesn't rely on the man to participate. They are more likely to have abortions. So when everyone gets serious in their mid to late 20s, white women are less likely to have children.
White men aren't told they have to accept ready-made families to be real men. Black men are basically told they have to settle for ready-made families. Obviously, that ain't happening. And since we know by the numbers that white women are taking most of the responsibility of preventing ready-made families in the white community(by using birth control and abortion), why is it black men catch so much heat?
Because White society like every society on Earth is patriarchal. Women understand and value their mens protection. They have their issues too, but overall, men lead. Because of chattel slavery, black patriarchy has never truly existed here. But black matriarchy has and it has always been ALLOWED dominion over black family structure culturally. Post slavery, when laws were super strict and said you get no social services for "illegitimate children" and being unmarried, our marriage rates were thru the roof. It behooved our women to be married at least on paper. When the divorce laws changed and the great programs incentivized single parent homes, marriage and nuclear family structure was abandoned by black women to the point they are now the least married group.
Black men take care of other mens children more than any group of men on earth. They also pay out more to the US child court system than any other group of men. As well as are jailed for it more. You have an abundance of black single fathers as well who go hard for their kids. Yet the prevailing stereotype of "absentee fathers" is perpetuated many times even by our own women and the wimps they control to justify their supposed "independence" from black men. And their over reliance on white (and asian) patriarchy.
So a woman has a child....so what.
Would you help a child that needs help?
Would you help a child that needs help?
First bold: that's why that sinister plan from the 60s worked so well. They shouldn't have called it 'war on poverty' it should have been called 'war on family'
Second bold: I don't think people realize that. It goes to the 60 something percent of these women have children through medicaid. What kind of committed relationship puts men on OFFICIAL child support out the gate?
60 something percent of black kids have fathers that are basically officially on child support when kids are born. It's money not for the child, but to pay back Sam. Meanwhile, women don't pay Sam back shit. So much for equal responsibility, right? Since most white kids born through marriage, white men ain't put on support until after a divorce. And it's REAL child support. Meaning, money for the children. Black men are the ones being jailed because government is coming for their money back.
It's sinister.
And people don't see a problem with this? They want it buried?A lot of the times they on child support not cuz the baby mama spite them but because for her to get benefits she has to put him on child supportFirst bold: that's why that sinister plan from the 60s worked so well. They shouldn't have called it 'war on poverty' it should have been called 'war on family'
Second bold: I don't think people realize that. It goes to the 60 something percent of these women have children through medicaid. What kind of committed relationship puts men on OFFICIAL child support out the gate?
Since most white kids born through marriage, white men ain't put on support until after a divorce. And it's REAL child support. Meaning, money for the children. Black men are the ones being jailed because government is coming for their money back.
It's sinister.
Yo, that's what I said. Government coming after THEIR money. It's not really child support. We have entire communities operating off this family model.
this is true.