Black Women Have Highest Rate of Children with Different Fathers Study says:

[Drayonis]

Dray, thanks for posting this, I like intelligent discussions like this.

We can't have intelligent conversations this is Bgol my dude. Lol

But everything you said is correct we have to start with us. As a business person my angle has always been about money first. I always look at the decisions people make that effect their money and ability to make moves. Having bunch kids by yourself that need to be fed, clothed, educated and loved when you aren't able to properly provide any of those things isn't a good look. And the same goes for dumb ass dudes that drop kids with every broad they lay up with then cry about the child support they have to pay.

 

[34real]

Each one of those children represent a time,a love,a situation when things might of been alright in the love department for a female and the male has left her and moved on to another and left behind rightfully so an unsatisfied,bitter,scolded ,scared,immature,woman to raise a child to an adult.

Yeah,You can't expect nothing but the worse to come out of that and most times it does....meet,procreate,parish and repeat again,it's a cycle passed down from generations.

 

[oolong tea]

The problem is that shit is messy. When you have multiple kids by multiple people, some of those kids are going to be neglected or "left out". We see this all the time, when one kid's dad is showing up, picking up his kid, buying him nice clothe and the other kid's fathers aren't checking on them or remembering birthdays. It breeds jealousy and anger down the line.

If they're not ashamed, fuck it. There used to be a ring involved.

 

[oolong tea]

Yeah because obviously every woman who got pregnant by a man knew they weren't worth shit beforehand. Got it.

Unless you speak of how birth control failed her, it's all on her. You know, like when men are dismissed for not wrapping it if they're hit with child support. Ijs.

 

[dHustla]

I'm more concerned with us as a people making better decisions.

This part!

 

[Drayonis]

Sounds like you have standards. Understand you arent supposed to have those as a black man. You will be told you "hate black women".

We have to boost the self esteem of black boys and men. And us as men will have to do it because the single moms wont. Single moms typically raise black men to be submissive to black women who are in turn submissive to white males. Keeping us oppressed and dependent.

I had to get in my God son's ass the other day. Dude was smashing randoms without condoms.

And this is a kid who was always mad his dad wasn't in his life and used to say he didn't want to be like his old man (5 kids a bunch of mothers).

I had to really remind him this is how his dad started. Not giving a shit. Wanting to fuck unprotected with hoes then bounce and then cry about child support.

 

[Raymond]

Ultimately, women control reproduction in this country. Cats going to shoot their shot relentlessly. It's up to women to make better choices. Simple as that.

If society listened to this, the number would be less than 5%. If you're not married, you should be on the pill. If you're not on the pill, there's always the morning-after pill after random encounters. But society rewards single black motherhood with the father having no say in the matter so that's why you have high numbers.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

it's gon get real stupid in here

Yep.

 

[tallblacknyc]

Again, you are going on anecdotal situations without posting anything to support that. MOST of the country(BGOL) included work regular jobs. MOST people consider marriage to be commitment. I'm not just talking about the government aspect of it. I'm talking about passing assets and other types of shit. You think these women are like "Create a trust, power of attorney, put me on the house title, and get me in the will before you bust in me!" Come on man. Just cut it out.

They have no fucking commitment. Plain reckless. We have entire fucking neighborhoods based on reckless reproduction and you keep trying to work on small sample size anecdotes.




You realize I'm talking about wester women in general. White men had none of those problems and couldn't get easy pussy.

ok post your facts showing that most kids born out of wedlock were results of reckless fucking...how many were 1 night stands? How many were fuck buddy babies? How many were created from less than 1 yr relationship? The fact you will never find this info doesn't necessarily mean there aren't kids born under these conditions juss like u'll never find info about kids being born from long term commitment that didn't involve marriage... So juss like your theories cant be stated with absolute facts and stats can also be the same said about mine... I know what I've seen through life and I know it ain't necessarily the bullshit stereotypes and narratives they try to push... Juss like all these black surveys they have that ive met no black person that ever took them yet every yr a billion survey articles representing negativity in the black community is shown

 

[Gazoo]

Many will find a way to blame the white man amazingly.

I give up.

 

[Drayonis]

Many will find a way to blame the white man amazingly.

I give up.

Who do they blame on your planet?

 

[gene cisco]

ok post your facts showing that most kids born out of wedlock were results of reckless fucking...how many were 1 night stands? How many were fuck buddy babies? How many were created from less than 1 yr relationship? The fact you will never find this info doesn't necessarily mean there aren't kids born under these conditions juss like u'll never find info about kids being born from long term commitment that didn't involve marriage... So juss like your theories cant be stated with absolute facts and stats can also be the same said about mine... I know what I've seen through life and I know it ain't necessarily the bullshit stereotypes and narratives they try to push... Juss like all these black surveys they have that ive met no black person that ever took them yet every yr a billion survey articles representing negativity in the black community is shown

We all know the numbers. I don't have to post them. Let's say 65 percent of the children are born out of the wedlock. We have 35 percent of the children born in REAL committed relationships. You the one who has to prove your anecdote. Because out of that remaining 65 percent, how many do you think have the proper safeguards in place to qualify as a committed relationship(name on house title, wills, trusts, etc)? I'd say 5 percent if that. The rest just some toothbrush in the bathroom shit and you know that.

So it's on you to prove that in that 65 percent your supposed REAL committed relationships exist that give that women safeguards. Good luck with that.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr67/nvsr67_01.pdf

Yo, if all these black women in committed relationships and working with a teammate. How come 65 percent had kids via medicaid? Meanwhile, 63 percent of white women have babies via private insurance. 65 percent of Asian women have babies via private insurance.

You really don't want to play this game because you using anecdotes, not facts. And although those anecdotes exist, they aren't the norm.

 

[Gazoo]

Who do they blame on your planet?

There’s a disgusting fat bitch that I know that has four kids by four different dudes. This does not help our culture at all. I blame our culture. Not whites.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

One: we're not going extinct

The breakup of the black family is systemic. There is no one cure and there's no one reason and there's no one way, but a large part of it is the lack of true family structure - a husband who respects and treats his wife and children well, and a wife who respects her husband and treats the kids well, and Single parents should only happen in cases of divorce

Two: multiple kids by multiple men does more than increase the number of black children, it increases the number of damaged black children with a fractured family view and a lack of understanding of what a family structure is supposed to be.

These children grow up not knowing what a husband is supposed to be like not knowing what a wife is supposed to act like.

These children go grow thinking that there is nothing wrong with being a single mom because my mother was one when the fact is your mother did it wrong unless she was married and got divorced.

But kids, not just black kids but almost all kids are hesitant to admit their mother was wrong at anything for any reason. Children of pornstars won't admit that their mother was a woman who sucked dick for money on video. If they admit anything, they'll say, "she did what she had to do" as if there weren't any other options

true but I seen single moms do a better job than a child with two parents...

on average no doubt children need a balanced household but its no gaurantee how the child will grow up..

but trust me....everything is in divine order....our true glory will NOT be televised as long as cacs run the networks

 

[Drayonis]

true but I seen single moms do a better job than a child with two parents...

Right. So women might as well be single mothers

Makes sense

 

[depriest]

This is because sucker ass niggas are supportin this shit. As long as these broads have a supply of thirsty simps on deck, they will be forever doling out pussy like cards for any dumb thirsty nigga that wants to become her next victim in her spiderweb of child support payments. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad hath warned us that these women are a creation of white luciferian devil and tells us to stay away from these whores and focus on becoming good mooslums so that we can date NOI Islamic women who are willing to become a part of a the black man's harem of polygamy. For this is what the Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us is the most sacred of marital systems for the black man in the hells of north amerikkka.

I came from a family of six with not father in the house and my mother raise up all well and we are all doing great so fuck the white man and his study and FUCK YOU FOR POSTING IT
post a study of how strong our black women are if you want to post something . MAKE ME THINK YOUR ASS MY BE WHITE

 

[Complex]

We have to do better

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Right. So women might as well be single mothers

Makes sense

women "might as well" do whatever works best for them

not what works best for you and I....

 

[totto]

There’s a disgusting fat bitch that I know that has four kids by four different dudes. This does not help our culture at all. I blame our culture. Not whites.

truth

This isn't really a complicated issue, more this is an issue of expectations and reality. If you not content in your current living lifestyle then temptations will come and while I'm not a conservative, I agree with a lot of what they push and do because it's structured, regardless of how it's structured it's still structured and white women usually follow the lead of the man, regardless of how corny and lame it is.

Social progression starts in the black community and works it's way outward. So we're the ones who push the trends the other races tend to follow and hip hop is an example, emiemen or tekaski69 they get their money up by targetting blacks and making a name for themselves but still live a different life.

Liberalism, telling women to chase the bag, watching tv shows crapping on black men by black women isn't helping anything.

I once had someone tell me regardless of how poor a person is, if he's not content in that situation he will chase more, and chasing will leads to actions... we need to be content with whatever situation we're living in.

 

[wwetv100]

We have to do better

We both do for real. It's really simple, but also complicated at the same time. I say this because people a lot of the time fall for the illusion of a person or who they have projected instead of the real person. When the real person is discovered that's where things sometimes go left.

This is for both men and women.

 

[tallblacknyc]

We all know the numbers. I don't have to post them. Let's say 65 percent of the children are born out of the wedlock. We have 35 percent of the children born in REAL committed relationships. You the one who has to prove your anecdote. Because out of that remaining 65 percent, how many do you think have the proper safeguards in place to qualify as a committed relationship(name on house title, wills, trusts, etc)? I'd say 5 percent if that. The rest just some toothbrush in the bathroom shit and you know that.

So it's on you to prove that in that 65 percent your supposed REAL committed relationships exist that give that women safeguards. Good luck with that.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr67/nvsr67_01.pdf

Yo, if all these black women in committed relationships and working with a teammate. How come 65 percent had kids via medicaid? Meanwhile, 63 percent of white women have babies via private insurance. 65 percent of Asian women have babies via private insurance.

You really don't want to play this game because you using anecdotes, not facts. And although those anecdotes exist, they aren't the norm.

I asked you for a chicken recipe and you posting ground beef... My question was how many kids were born from a one night stand, how many were born from a tuck buddy situation, how many kids were born from a yr or less relationship... If you don't post those exact numbers and reply to me with another percent/statistics about another topic that I did not request you will prove my point... Waiting for those exact numbers and percentages...Will you go around my questions for the second time or will avoid answering cause you have zero figures or proof to back them up... Please do not post out of wedlock stats cause that is not my question

 

[gene cisco]

I asked you for a chicken recipe and you posting ground beef... My question was how many kids were born from a one night stand, how many were born from a tuck buddy situation, how many kids were born from a yr or less relationship... If you don't post those exact numbers and reply to me with another percent/statistics about another topic that I did not request you will prove my point... Waiting for those exact numbers and percentages...Will you go around my questions for the second time or will avoid answering cause you have zero figures or proof to back them up... Please do not post out of wedlock stats cause that is not my question

It's up to you to provide proof since you saying all these committed relationships exist. I asked you to post stats way before you asked me. You did nothing but provide more anecdotes. Now you want to dictate about posting stats when you have never once provided any fucking numbers to dispute the OP or any of my points? Come on man.

Prove to me that in the 65-70 percent there is some serious commitment going on. One of the biggest things the government goes after fathers for is medical insurance. That's why I posted the medicaid numbers. Why all these women just left out there hanging if they in committed relationships and engaging in proper family planning? You think the kids magically got private insurance once they are born? I can post the numbers of black children on medicaid and completely put the nail in your coffin. All the fucking numbers line up to uncommitted relationships. Why do the insurance numbers with every race closely resemble the committed relationship numbers(marriage)? Sure there are exceptions, but not a large enough sample to matter. Thus your weak anecdotes.

Should we ask all the BGOL cats you referenced if they had their chicks and kids on medicaid? Let's open that can of worms and further kill your argument. Go ahead and start the thread.

 

[Lower9Nupe]

One of our biggest issues with social issues is the inability to focus on the rule versus the exceptions to the rule. This is one of those topics. The out of wedlock birthrate among Blacks is 72-75%. These rates aren't new and have been around for quite some time. The rates are so high that it's safe to say that there are most likely more Blacks who were raised in this situation than those raised by two parent homes. If true, and I say if, this is now our culture. It's not one of marriage, stable two parent homes, etc.

I've had this conversation for decades. Black women are often adversarial when it comes to this conversation. Ultimately they lay the blame at the feet of men who they say simply don't want to get married. My question for them, which rarely gets a answer, is what exactly did the guy dude besides pull out his dick to suggest that he wanted to marry you in the first place? Did he say let's get a home together? Share a bank account? What? You'd be surprised at the number of women who replied he shouldn't have pulled out his dick.

Truth be told I think it's over. We struggle as a whole because the one thing marriage does is it provides an opportunity to pool resources and potentially provide more opportunities (education, exposure). Our moral code isn't the issue. It's poverty and numbers.

 

[the_male_feminist]

what is this shit?

Dyke night

 

[the_male_feminist]

One of our biggest issues with social issues is the inability to focus on the rule versus the exceptions to the rule. This is one of those topics. The out of wedlock birthrate among Blacks is 72-75%. These rates aren't new and have been around for quite some time. The rates are so high that it's safe to say that there are most likely more Blacks who were raised in this situation than those raised by two parent homes. If true, and I say if, this is now our culture. It's not one of marriage, stable two parent homes, etc.

I've had this conversation for decades. Black women are often adversarial when it comes to this conversation. Ultimately they lay the blame at the feet of men who they say simply don't want to get married. My question for them, which rarely gets a answer, is what exactly did the guy dude besides pull out his dick to suggest that he wanted to marry you in the first place? Did he say let's get a home together? Share a bank account? What? You'd be surprised at the number of women who replied he shouldn't have pulled out his dick.

Truth be told I think it's over. We struggle as a whole because the one thing marriage does is it provides an opportunity to pool resources and potentially provide more opportunities (education, exposure). Our moral code isn't the issue. It's poverty and numbers.

 

[BGLR1212000]

Who do they blame on your planet?

The blame game isn't important. We just want to fix the mess.

 

[Drayonis]

The blame game isn't important. We just want to fix the mess.

It was a joke bro. Gazoo is an alien

 

[Naha-Nago]

women "might as well" do whatever works best for them

not what works best for you and I....

For them???

Women should do what's best for the chi...

You know what...

*two cents*

 

[Naha-Nago]

One of our biggest issues with social issues is the inability to focus on the rule versus the exceptions to the rule. This is one of those topics. The out of wedlock birthrate among Blacks is 72-75%. These rates aren't new and have been around for quite some time. The rates are so high that it's safe to say that there are most likely more Blacks who were raised in this situation than those raised by two parent homes. If true, and I say if, this is now our culture. It's not one of marriage, stable two parent homes, etc.

I've had this conversation for decades. Black women are often adversarial when it comes to this conversation. Ultimately they lay the blame at the feet of men who they say simply don't want to get married. My question for them, which rarely gets a answer, is what exactly did the guy dude besides pull out his dick to suggest that he wanted to marry you in the first place? Did he say let's get a home together? Share a bank account? What? You'd be surprised at the number of women who replied he shouldn't have pulled out his dick.

Truth be told I think it's over. We struggle as a whole because the one thing marriage does is it provides an opportunity to pool resources and potentially provide more opportunities (education, exposure). Our moral code isn't the issue. It's poverty and numbers.

Very interesting observation.

*two cents*

 

[gene cisco]

One of our biggest issues with social issues is the inability to focus on the rule versus the exceptions to the rule. This is one of those topics. The out of wedlock birthrate among Blacks is 72-75%. These rates aren't new and have been around for quite some time. The rates are so high that it's safe to say that there are most likely more Blacks who were raised in this situation than those raised by two parent homes. If true, and I say if, this is now our culture. It's not one of marriage, stable two parent homes, etc.

I've had this conversation for decades. Black women are often adversarial when it comes to this conversation. Ultimately they lay the blame at the feet of men who they say simply don't want to get married. My question for them, which rarely gets a answer, is what exactly did the guy dude besides pull out his dick to suggest that he wanted to marry you in the first place? Did he say let's get a home together? Share a bank account? What? You'd be surprised at the number of women who replied he shouldn't have pulled out his dick.

Truth be told I think it's over. We struggle as a whole because the one thing marriage does is it provides an opportunity to pool resources and potentially provide more opportunities (education, exposure). Our moral code isn't the issue. It's poverty and numbers.

To the the first bolded, it's not always been like that. Before 1950, only like 15 percent of black children were born out of wedlock. In the 60s, I think it was only 25 percent. Mind you, the numbers were higher than whites, but nothing like we see now. And this was before contraception was easy as fuck.

The thing that most folks who worry about whites OBSERVING this shit and speaking on it don't get is that this is mostly by design. These cacs were studying the black family way back. That's a fact that can be googled. They open about the fuckery. They actually blamed community dysfunction on the higher out of wedlock birth rates and less stability at home. This was way back in the 60s and 50s. This was when out-of-wedlock birthrate was a fraction of what it is now and there wasn't nearly as much violence in the community.

When they created the war on poverty, it was to eliminate the black man from the home and to further destabilize the black family. Naturally, the slick bastards packaged it as a good thing -- just like they did the war on drugs. The part that came later was them weaponizing the child support system to get GOVERNMENT money back that the child never sees while CRIMINALIZING the fathers.

To the second bold, exactly. Anyone on here who gets pussy knows how easy it is to hit it raw. You don't need to be offering any commitment, so why would you?

Reason this subject pisses me off so much is folks don't see how this is really fucking up the community. Sure cacs don't give a fuck when they OBSERVE what is going on, but fuck them. That's why it kills me when folks talk about educating children when education starts with fucking family planning. How do you compete with folks who plan their child's education before the kid is born?

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

For them???

Women should do what's best for the chi...

You know what...

*two cents*

we are talking about WOMEN here....

there is a difference between WOMEN and ladies, chicks, hoes and bitches...

just like there is a difference between FATHERS and baby dady, no good trifling dusty etc....


we are talking about women, women always do right by their children...

I think you are confused.

 

[Drayonis]

Pretty good stuff. I like the part where you said,

"The rates are so high that it's safe to say that there are most likely more Blacks who were raised in this situation than those raised by two parent homes."

And when you speak out against it people object or fight with you that it "doesn't matter". Shoot, I'm starting to believe the cats in this thread mad are just defending their being raised by single mothers.

One of our biggest issues with social issues is the inability to focus on the rule versus the exceptions to the rule. This is one of those topics. The out of wedlock birthrate among Blacks is 72-75%. These rates aren't new and have been around for quite some time. The rates are so high that it's safe to say that there are most likely more Blacks who were raised in this situation than those raised by two parent homes. If true, and I say if, this is now our culture. It's not one of marriage, stable two parent homes, etc.

I've had this conversation for decades. Black women are often adversarial when it comes to this conversation. Ultimately they lay the blame at the feet of men who they say simply don't want to get married. My question for them, which rarely gets a answer, is what exactly did the guy dude besides pull out his dick to suggest that he wanted to marry you in the first place? Did he say let's get a home together? Share a bank account? What? You'd be surprised at the number of women who replied he shouldn't have pulled out his dick.

Truth be told I think it's over. We struggle as a whole because the one thing marriage does is it provides an opportunity to pool resources and potentially provide more opportunities (education, exposure). Our moral code isn't the issue. It's poverty and numbers.

 

[Naha-Nago]

To the the first bolded, it's not always been like that. Before 1950, only like 15 percent of black children were born out of wedlock. In the 60s, I think it was only 25 percent. Mind you, the numbers were higher than whites, but nothing like we see now. And this was before contraception was easy as fuck.

The thing that most folks who worry about whites OBSERVING this shit and speaking on it don't get is that this is mostly by design. These cacs were studying the black family way back. That's a fact that can be googled. They open about the fuckery. They actually blamed community dysfunction on the higher out of wedlock birth rates and less stability at home. This was way back in the 60s and 50s. This was when out-of-wedlock birthrate was a fraction of what it is now and there wasn't nearly as much violence in the community.

When they created the war on poverty, it was to eliminate the black man from the home and to further destabilize the black family. Naturally, the slick bastards packaged it as a good thing -- just like they did the war on drugs. The part that came later was them weaponizing the child support system to get GOVERNMENT money back that the child never sees while CRIMINALIZING the fathers.

To the second bold, exactly. Anyone on here who gets pussy knows how easy it is to hit it raw. You don't need to be offering any commitment, so why would you?

Reason this subject pisses me off so much is folks don't see how this is really fucking up the community. Sure cacs don't give a fuck when they OBSERVE what is going on, but fuck them. That's why it kills me when folks talk about educating children when education starts with fucking family planning. How do you compete with folks who plan their child's education before the kid is born?

All this!

I remember having a knockdown drag out on here with a cat I was trying to explain to - with facts- that Lyndon B Johnson's "Great Society" and how it was rolled out destroyed the black family structure.

As far as white folks studying us- them studying us is of great importance because we are the Ginnie Pig and/or the Canary in the coal mine for all social engineering on a large scale.

The Moyniham Report predicted almost to the letter what would happen to the black family if the black man was removed by disabling him financially- which the Great Society social reform programs accomplished.

*two cents*

 

[Lower9Nupe]

Pretty good stuff. I like the part where you said,

"The rates are so high that it's safe to say that there are most likely more Blacks who were raised in this situation than those raised by two parent homes."

And when you speak out against it people object or fight with you that it "doesn't matter". Shoot, I'm starting to believe the cats in this thread mad are just defending their being raised by single mothers.

My childhood friends and I are all products of two-parent households. When Black America was (and this is crazy) upset that the Cosby show didn't depict actual Black families we were confused as hell because it was our reality. As we got older and expanded our backyard it was inevitable that we would cross paths with brothas and sistas who did not share our background. The difference is we recognized the we were the exception and not the rule. Healthy debate has to start with recognizing the world is bigger than your own backyard.

 

[Lower9Nupe]

To the the first bolded, it's not always been like that. Before 1950, only like 15 percent of black children were born out of wedlock. In the 60s, I think it was only 25 percent. Mind you, the numbers were higher than whites, but nothing like we see now. And this was before contraception was easy as fuck.

The thing that most folks who worry about whites OBSERVING this shit and speaking on it don't get is that this is mostly by design. These cacs were studying the black family way back. That's a fact that can be googled. They open about the fuckery. They actually blamed community dysfunction on the higher out of wedlock birth rates and less stability at home. This was way back in the 60s and 50s. This was when out-of-wedlock birthrate was a fraction of what it is now and there wasn't nearly as much violence in the community.

When they created the war on poverty, it was to eliminate the black man from the home and to further destabilize the black family. Naturally, the slick bastards packaged it as a good thing -- just like they did the war on drugs. The part that came later was them weaponizing the child support system to get GOVERNMENT money back that the child never sees while CRIMINALIZING the fathers.

To the second bold, exactly. Anyone on here who gets pussy knows how easy it is to hit it raw. You don't need to be offering any commitment, so why would you?

Reason this subject pisses me off so much is folks don't see how this is really fucking up the community. Sure cacs don't give a fuck when they OBSERVE what is going on, but fuck them. That's why it kills me when folks talk about educating children when education starts with fucking family planning. How do you compete with folks who plan their child's education before the kid is born?

I can't refute anything you said here. I believe Whites use the out of wedlock birthrate to equate us to animals. By dehumanizing us it makes their atrocities more palatable. My childhood friends, all two-parent households reads like this....Surgeon, Surgeon, Managing Director, Director. I could go on and on and all of us were products of two-parent households. You hit the nail on the head with our last comment. The day my children were born, yes born, I created accounts for their education. One is in college (Pre-Med) the other is going into to High School (private). It happens on our end as well but as long as folks don't see the socioeconomic value in two-parent households it ain't gonna improve.