Here you go with this bullshit again... How long ago and how many fights ago was that.... Oh, lets judge Manny on the fight he lost in his 2nd fight when he was 106 while you are at it... GTFOH with that bullshit...
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Here you go with this bullshit again... How long ago and how many fights ago was that.... Oh, lets judge Manny on the fight he lost in his 2nd fight when he was 106 while you are at it... GTFOH with that bullshit...
see my post above.
Yes. it IS tactical when Floyd does it. Know why?
The big DIFFERENCE is that Mayweather throws 'counter punches'. While moving backward.
He also dodges punches.
Shane just RAN tonite. Period.
And he got 'booed' almost the entire last round, for doing that.
No counter punches.
THAT's BOXING!!
So jabs don't count? Manny couldn't even get out of the way of Shane's weak ass jab. Shane laterally to the left THE ENTIRE fight, how is that nicca Manny that DUMB that he couldn't take ONE step to the right every time Shane did that? Like I said, it's on Manny. Duran, Chavez, them cats were masters at cutting off the ring and destroying dudes. As long as you don't go straight back, Manny can't do shit. Dude is a straight up linear fighter. He has one gear - forward.
Here you go with this bullshit again... How long ago and how many fights ago was that.... Oh, lets judge Manny on the fight he lost in his 2nd fight when he was 106 while you are at it... GTFOH with that bullshit...
When was the last time Pacman fought a defensive-minded counterpuncher.
Fuck outta here...you casual boxing mans make me when to jump through the screen and choke you. Arum is spoon-feeding Pacman right now.
And that fight wasnt at no damn 106..Pacman came in at 130 and they shit was only 3 years ago and Pacman actually lost both of them...bullshit decisions...since the marquez fight in 2008 and hasnt fought anyone who has been known as a defensive fighter...must less a counterpuncher
Here you go with this bullshit again... How long ago and how many fights ago was that.... Oh, lets judge Manny on the fight he lost in his 2nd fight when he was 106 while you are at it... GTFOH with that bullshit...
TJervey what you are saying would be cool, if Pac wasn't avoiding the 3rd fight with JMM... and fighting only boxers who are the opposite of that style.
to go on ahead and close out the thread
if its a brawl pac wins
if its a boxing match floyd wins
the end
if its a brawl pac wins
if its a boxing match floyd wins
the end
Its pure comedy reading you all bicker back and forth.....
Mayweather would have problems with Pac IF Pac comes with his A game and isnt trying to feel him out the whole way.
Mayweather would win IF he is the aggressor (rarely happens).
I honestly dont want to see the fight. The shit will be boring and will go 12 rounds and look similar to the Pac/Mosley fight.
Boxing took an L tonight..... too much complaining about heads bumping(excuse to slow the fight, not enough aggression(too much feeling the fighter out).
Wheres my Silva GSP match?
Mayweather would have problems with Pac IF Pac comes with his A game and isnt trying to feel him out the whole way.
Mayweather would win IF he is the aggressor (rarely happens).
I honestly dont want to see the fight. The shit will be boring and will go 12 rounds and look similar to the Pac/Mosley fight.
Boxing took an L tonight..... too much complaining about heads bumping(excuse to slow the fight, not enough aggression(too much feeling the fighter out).
Wheres my Silva GSP match?
even the pacman-stan commentators on my feed were like
It wasnt a good look at all for Pacman.
I think Floyd is faster as well but they may be about even in combination punching. I think the punchers chance with Pac is a lot bigger than you are thinking. I hope your prediction is right but I see Floyd getting caught in an exchange. Freddie will send Pac out there to force an exchange.
Truth is, Pac is a unique type of fighter that a straight counter puncher will not do well against him. Floyd is very versatile from a defensive perspective, but he will lose on the score cards due to the sheer volume of punches Manny throws... and he WILL get caught by some of them! Floyd will definitely need to take a few chances an not just sit in the pocket and throw counters.... that is where I believe his downfall might be...
As for Shane, I like what you said, every wants to point out what Manny didn't do, etc. but, Floyd didn't know Shane out either, and it was Manny's arsenal which made Shane haul ass... I have never seen Shane run like he did tonight... Manny's power and strength did that to him... He basically admitted that himself....
Sorry man, couldn't disagree more. Manny looked like shit tonight. Again, can ya'll give me an answer?!?!? How is a guy circling the same direction the whole fight and you can't cut off the ring and get to him. And an old man at that had him tentative to come in. Imagine what will happen when Floyd's quicker hands start landing those lead right hands. Pac barely let his hands go unless Shane initiated the action. And the Marquez fight was like 3 years ago fam, what are you talking about.
Let's be honest, they robbed Marquez because Manny was on the cusp of becoming a big draw and the face of boxing - HBO's sweetheart. Marquez let Manny come to him and countered him silly. The only time he got caught was when he got cocky and attacked Manny and then tried moving straight back, which is a no-no against Pac because he's a straight forward fighter. Pac is only that punches from every angle dude when a ninja is staying still. But hwen he's constantly moving , Pac can't really do shit.
Just like I want to see Floyd`s bitch ass actually fight someone... I want to see Pacman actually take a fight that will force him to BOX and not BRAWL.
He did not fight the same fight against PBF.
The BIG difference is that Shane was running the entire 12th round. (And even the 10th & 11th.) See below.
Compare the very last round of the Mayweather fight to the Pac Man fight tonight.
Shane is CLEARLY standing toe-to-toe with Mayweather in the last round.
Tonight he was evading Pac Man in the last round. At all costs.
Need an assist. Somebody post the FINAL round of tonight's fight to see the BIG DIFFERENCE.
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I believe in this statement right here.
I believe in this statement right here.
I actually thought Pacman may have been slightly quicker until this fight..not anymore though.
Pacman would have a chance EARLY just like Shane did.... i cant think of a recent Floyd fight where he didnt dominate after the 6th round...last time ive seen him get hit clean in middle round was against fucking Zab Judan and then he took him to school..
Fighters like Floyd and Bhop take 3-4 rounds to figure you out, and then it is a wrap after that....they are going to start eating rounds on the scorecard and you cant land flush enough to KO them..
the one thing that Pacman does have going for him is that he is a southpaw and Floyd struggles with southpaw ( like i mentioned with zab judah) but I think he would be a bit more cautious early with pacman until he really that pacman doesnt have one punch power like Shane...
Pacman wears you down by dealing out continous punishment round after round....but Floyd doesnt get hit and he is not going to sit in the middle of the ring and trade blows...
if Shane could frustrate Pacman with that shit he did in the middle of the ring... he wont stand a chance against floyd...
Im sayin man..... shit is like arguing over Sanskrit.....
and I GREW UP ON BOXING. I LOVE the sport.... but this shit is flickering and on its way out.
Mayweather can and will likely beat Pacman when they fight. The only way I can see him losing is if all those layoff take a toll and he magically becomes old overnight, then MAYBE Manny might have a shot. Manny will land shots early against Mayweather while Money gets his timing down. Once Mayweather gets Manny's timing down then it's over. In this fight I saw Manny throw a lot of wild looping shots in hopes of hitting Shane and against Floyd he is going to pay for that.
what shane trainer said about floyd against manny, thought i heard dude say something about that...
Pac can only bring his A game if the dude is old, shot and coming off a loss. And you're all wrong about Floyd having to be the aggressor, damn fam, weren't you even watching the fight tonight? Pac wasn't feeling out anything, Pac couldn't do anything with a nicca moving the same WAY THE WHOLE FIGHT - that nicca's dumb fam
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The one thing that is clear is that both fighters need to cut their bullshit and make the fight happen. That the fight is not happening is an indication of fear on one or both sides. Can you imagine Hagler or Chavez turning down the paydays these clowns are running from?
He did not fight the same fight against PBF.
The BIG difference is that Shane was running the entire 12th round. (And even the 10th & 11th.) See below.
Compare the very last round of the Mayweather fight to the Pac Man fight tonight.
Shane is CLEARLY standing toe-to-toe with Mayweather in the last round.
Tonight he was evading Pac Man in the last round. At all costs.
And your argument is that Manny shouldn't chase down Shane, cut off the ring and bring the fight to him as much as he can...
Just got back in
Im not reading through this thread but im sure people are talking about mayweather
All I gotta say is Mosely wasnt running from Mayweather all fight like h was tonight
Its time for Pac and Money to get in that ring
Im not reading through this thread but im sure people are talking about mayweather
All I gotta say is Mosely wasnt running from Mayweather all fight like h was tonight
Its time for Pac and Money to get in that ring
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he wasn't 80 years old either.
Pac can only bring his A game if the dude is old, shot and coming off a loss. And you're all wrong about Floyd having to be the aggressor, damn fam, weren't you even watching the fight tonight? Pac wasn't feeling out anything, Pac couldn't do anything with a nicca moving the same WAY THE WHOLE FIGHT - that nicca's dumb fam
this whole post reeks of
your a Mayweather stan arent you....
Im not even that big of an MMA fan.... but boxing is looking like trash compared to it.... and dont even think that Mayweather isnt part of the problem.... if he wasnt boxing wouldnt suck as much as it does now.
This shit is fucking disgusting man. Those two need to fight.
Merc can defend himself but he has gone in on Floyd several times. Merc is one of those old-school boxing fans fam...
He did not fight the same fight against PBF.
The BIG difference is that Shane was running the entire 12th round. (And even the 10th & 11th.) See below.
Compare the very last round of the Mayweather fight to the Pac Man fight tonight.
Shane is CLEARLY standing toe-to-toe with Mayweather in the last round.
Tonight he was evading Pac Man in the last round. At all costs.
Need an assist. Somebody post the FINAL round of tonight's fight to see the BIG DIFFERENCE.
What does the last round of his fight with Floyd have to do with what happened tonight. Mosley looked just as shot and worn out and stiff and gun shy as he did against Floyd as he did tonight. The difference is that Floyd is by far a better fighter than Manny. Shane wasn't trying to go out with a ko against Manny. Again, he's just supposed to stand there and let Manny wale on him? C'mon fam, as I said, if Manny is that fucking DUMD that he couldn't cut off the ring on an aging fighter with no legs, then he has no business being called the best fighter in the world. He's the best media built fighter in the world, surrounded by the dirtiest promoter and a great hype machine. They'll give Marquez a reason(s) not to take the fight in October and will prolly fight Victor Ortiz who leaves himself wide open and is constantly attacking.
They do.
I see what they are doing though. Top Rank wants to get as much money out of Manny as they can before a dangerous fight with Mayweather. Mayweather has legal problems and really doesn't have anyone left to fight at this point but Manny. So, us fans play the waiting game.
THAT FIGHT WAS FIXED!!!!
It looked like Shane was paid NOT to throw anything.
These fools touching gloves and giving each other props at the beginning and end of each round.
Something stinks here.
They definitely fought like it was already some type of agreement in place.
It looked like Shane was paid NOT to throw anything.
These fools touching gloves and giving each other props at the beginning and end of each round.
Something stinks here.
They definitely fought like it was already some type of agreement in place.
They do.
Agreed... yeah... I know Arum was going to push this fight off as long as he could and milk Pacman... and Floyd stays in bullshit all the time... would be a damn shame and really a black eye on boxing of these two dont fight over the next 12 months...
Ummm... he DID exactly that.
Pacquiao 'cut the ring off' in the middle rounds. As much as possible.
My point is....
How much 'chasing down' is Pac supposed to do in the Final 3 Rounds... with a fighter who is not boxing? Just running away.
Look at the video I posted.
You can't really claim that... it's Pac Man's fault.... for Shane's lack of aggression... in a boxing match.
Boxers run (or clench).... whenever they KNOW they may get 'knocked out'.
Shane even admitted as much in his post-fight interview.
He said something like... "He shocked me. I couldn't believe his power."
In comparison, he stood toe-to-toe with PBF in the last round.
Now why is that?
Just saying.
Mayweather doesn't even deserve to be talked about. The guy has only fought TWO TIMES in 4 YEARS. The guy is 34 years old and by the time he gets finished with lawsuits, yet another tuneup, and maybe steps in the ring with Pac, he'll probably be 36 years old. The guy is supposedly a defensive master yet he got rocked to the soles of his feet by an ancient Mosley.
Mayweather cannot deal with a soutpaw stance and he will get outworked and lose a decision. If Mayweather had half the confidence that his fans apparently do, this fight would have been made long time ago. PED conspiracy theories aside, the more credible evidence indicates Mayweather just doesn't want to fight anymore and if he does fight he doesn't want to have to deal with any potentially hard fights. All you have to do is look at Mayweather's activity in the past few years. This guy is practically retired and people don't even realize it.
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