*** Super Fight: Manny Pacquiao vs. 'Sugar' Shane Mosley OFFICIAL thread ***

[the13thround]

Who ya got?
I'm going out a a limb.....
Shane wins by stoppage with a body shot.
I'M ROOTING FOR THE AMERICAN.

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Fight Camp 360: Final Episode

 

[Spectrum]

Shane is going to lose by UD... but I am hoping he still has something in the tank and can land something early and then finish. He landed a big right hand a couple of times against Floyd, but he couldnt finish like the younger Shane. In his prime, Shane would KO Pacman.. but if he gets into a boxing match with Pacman, he will lose. His lack of speed (compared to pacman) will haunt him in the later rounds.

One good thing that Shane has going for him is that Pacman gets hit a lot.. but pacman gets hit with a lot of straight rights because of his defensive stance and that is not Shane`s punch.

But Shane will need to load up on that right hand and land something big early and try to follow up the big right with something else. If Shane doesnt have Pacman hurt badly by the 4th or round 5, it is going to get ugly. At this point in his career, shane cant sit in the middle of the ring and outbox Pacman.

 

[kewlphucker]

Mods make this a sticky cause I'm not paying for this shit.


Keep the links fresh

 

[Blackmayne]

way too many people underestimating Shane in this one.... IMO!

Shane by stoppage...!

 

[doggish_098]

yo mods you may as well get it out the way and sticky and combine these threads

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

Shane's going to shock the world tonight.

People seem to think Manny is invincible and he's far from it.

Manny has no defense and can't take body shots. Shane has slowed a bit but still has comparable speed and probably hits harder. The main mistake people are making iks thinking Shanes last two fights (against two very defense minded fighters, Mayweather being a defensive genius) are an indication that Shane has lost it but that's bullshit IMO.

Not only am I picking Shane but don't be surprised if its a spectacular KO win.

 

[the13thround]

Shane is going to lose by UD... but I am hoping he still has something in the tank and can land something early and then finish. He landed a big right hand a couple of times against Floyd, but he couldnt finish like the younger Shane. In his prime, Shane would KO Pacman.. but if he gets into a boxing match with Pacman, he will lose. His lack of speed (compared to pacman) will haunt him in the later rounds.

One good thing that Shane has going for him is that Pacman gets hit a lot.. but pacman gets hit with a lot of straight rights because of his defensive stance and that is not Shane`s punch.

But Shane will need to load up on that right hand and land something big early and try to follow up the big right with something else. If Shane doesnt have Pacman hurt badly by the 4th or round 5, it is going to get ugly. At this point in his career, shane cant sit in the middle of the ring and outbox Pacman.

Yeah that sounds about right.

Shane has a window of about 7 rounds to win, after that he's toast.

People forget that Shane has an incredible reach that he needs to use to his advantage.

Throw a damn jab for once, and that'll stop all of that Pacquiao speed.

I underestimated him against Margarito when Margarito was destroying cats....I won't make that same mistake again.

This is a winnable fight, be he can't slip up once.

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

Mods make this a sticky cause I'm not paying for this shit.


Keep the links fresh

yo mods you may as well get it out the way and sticky and combine these threads

Co sign

way too many people underestimating Shane in this one.... IMO!

Shane by stoppage...!

Co-sign

 

[patscorpio]

pacquiao by merciful stoppage in the 10th maybe 11th round after mosley fails to catch and stop manny in the first 4 rounds

 

[the13thround]

pacquiao by merciful stoppage in the 10th maybe 11th round after mosley fails to catch and stop manny in the first 4 rounds

Mosley has NEVER been stopped in his entire career, and it's not happening tonight!

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

pacquiao by merciful stoppage in the 10th maybe 11th round after mosley fails to catch and stop manny in the first 4 rounds

Your assuming he's going to try to walk down Manny but he won't, Pac will be coming to him. Mosley will use his reach advantage, jab the shit out of Manny and stick and moved early, forcing Manny to come forward which will enable him to play the role of counter puncher. Around the 6th to 8th rounds is when he wil start coming forward and trying to walk Manny down.

 

[Spectrum]

Throw a damn jab for once, and that'll stop all of that Pacquiao speed.

That is the problem. I just cant expect him at damn near 40 to start throwing a jab to exploit the reach difference.

I want to.... Shane is one of my favorite fighters.. if anyone other than Floyd could do it, it would be Shane if he can muster up a good performance.

 

[Spectrum]

pacquiao by merciful stoppage in the 10th maybe 11th round after mosley fails to catch and stop manny in the first 4 rounds

naw man.. Pacman doesnt have the type of power. Shane has never been stopped and he has fought fighters with way more power than Pacman...even at his older age, he wont get KOd by Pacman.

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

Mosley has NEVER been stopped in his entire career, and it's not happening tonight!

Basically, not even against the bigger stronger 154 pounders he's faced. Shit if vernon Forrest didn't finish him after the way he was hitting him Pac def. Won't.

If Pac KO'd Shane I'd be more convinced that he's on something because Shane's chin is too proven.

 

[Spectrum]

If Pac KO'd Shane I'd be more convinced that he's on something because Shane's chin is too proven.

I know Shane is way beyond his prime, but if Pacman managed to KO Shane

 

[alexw]

man shane is about to take a major ass whoopin

im down with black pride and all

but tonight isnt our night

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

I know Shane is way beyond his prime, but if Pacman managed to KO Shane

It would depend on how it happened.

If Pac used his speed and was just hitting him excessivly and rapidly with power (like against DLH) with way too many shots and that broke him then maybe. But if its a KO like he KO'd Hatten I would call bullshit and would be convinced he's on something.

 

[Hellfish]

If Pac KO'd Shane I'd be more convinced that he's on something because Shane's chin is too proven.

A Great chin that gets hit over the course of time will eventually shatter. Floyd could have knocked him out but wasn't willing take the risk due to his commanding lead on the scorecard. If Manny was to do it I don't see how it would prove any of these juicing allegations.

 

[the13thround]

naw man.. Pacman doesnt have the type of power. Shane has never been stopped and he has fought fighters with way more power than Pacman...even at his older age, he wont get KOd by Pacman.

See Pacquiao's blinding speed is the main reason why he knocks people out, not power.

De La Hoya said that he doesn't hit hard at all, but his punches are super-humanly fast.

He said that he never saw any of the punches coming, but he could only feel them....that's fucked up.

Pacquiao is also wearing the Cleto Reyes (punchers) gloves tonight.

The last time he wore the Winning gloves, he got his ass whipped my Morales.

 

[45mm]

I Dont know why, but i got a funny feeling Shane Mosley gonna beat Manny Pacquiao tonight. I know Pac-Man should win, but my gut telling me other wise.

 

[Hellfish]

See Pacquiao's blinding speed is the main reason why he knocks people out, not power.

This

 

[majorpayne]

what time are they supposed to fight?

 

[Hellfish]

Funny how cats wanna cry foul on Barry Bonds but want to vilify Pacman.

 

[Blackmayne]

man shane is about to take a major ass whoopin

im down with black pride and all

but tonight isnt our night

Fuck this got to do about black pride?

..................Dumbass!

 

[Spectrum]

See Pacquiao's blinding speed is the main reason why he knocks people out, not power.

Yep...he just wears you down... just rounds of rounds of assaults... cumulatively effects.

But even then, I just cant imagine pacman putting Shane on the mat..and he is not over the hill and drained from the coming down in weight like DLH was.... i would be SHOCKED to see Pacman get a KO or TKO against Shane...even at this stage in Shane`s career.

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

A Great chin that gets hit over the course of time will eventually shatter. Floyd could have knocked him out but wasn't willing take the risk due to his commanding lead on the scorecard. If Manny was to do it I don't see how it would prove any of these juicing allegations.

True but the thing is with Floyd is that he had the speed and defense to do it. Floyds defense and great counterpunching created that and is what almost got him the KO.

Even the Vernon Forrest fight Vernon came close to Ko'ing Shane with a superior Jab, power, and defense.

Pac only has offense and speed. You can kill that with jabbing, sticking and moving which I expect Shane to do in the first half of the fight.

See Pacquiao's blinding speed is the main reason why he knocks people out, not power.

De La Hoya said that he doesn't hit hard at all, but his punches are super-humanly fast.

He said that he never saw any of the punches coming, but he could only feel them....that's fucked up.

Pacquiao is also wearing the Cleto Reyes (punchers) gloves tonight.

The last time he wore the Winning gloves, he got his ass whipped my Morales.

That's true but not to take away from Manny but Oscar was obviously not only shot but completely drained in that fight. Also Oscars only stratedgy was to walk him down. Oscar and a few others underestimated Pac which he used to his advantage.

Even in his last few victories this was exposed. In the first few rounds of the Cotto fight, in the Clottey fight (whenever he decided to throw), and Margarito exposed how succeptible he is to body shots.

With Shanes experience, speed, and power combined with Brother Nazims knowledge I think they pull it off.

 

[the13thround]

They're showing the non-PPV fights on Showtime right now live.

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

Funny how cats wanna cry foul on Barry Bonds but want to vilify Pacman.

Two different arguments and sports.

Nobody denies Barry took roids, most just think filing a fed case against him (and just him) is bullshit.

Two in baseball you don't continually punch someone in the head and risk their lives so its not as serious.

Three, Manny and his team have done more to fuel the juicing speculations than anyone else with their bullshit, comical, continually changing excuses after they get called out reasons for not taking the tests. Had they just simply refused and kept ti moving they would have looked a lot better.

For example Pascal just tried that shit with Hopkins telling he needed to take some tests, Hopkins told him to fuck off and its been a non issue.

Yep...he just wears you down... just rounds of rounds of assaults... cumulatively effects.

But even then, I just cant imagine pacman putting Shane on the mat..and he is not over the hill and drained from the coming down in weight like DLH was.... i would be SHOCKED to see Pacman get a KO or TKO against Shane...even at this stage in Shane`s career.

Co-sign

 

[merce77]

Shane is going to lose by UD... but I am hoping he still has something in the tank and can land something early and then finish. He landed a big right hand a couple of times against Floyd, but he couldnt finish like the younger Shane. In his prime, Shane would KO Pacman.. but if he gets into a boxing match with Pacman, he will lose. His lack of speed (compared to pacman) will haunt him in the later rounds.

One good thing that Shane has going for him is that Pacman gets hit a lot.. but pacman gets hit with a lot of straight rights because of his defensive stance and that is not Shane`s punch.

But Shane will need to load up on that right hand and land something big early and try to follow up the big right with something else. If Shane doesnt have Pacman hurt badly by the 4th or round 5, it is going to get ugly. At this point in his career, shane cant sit in the middle of the ring and outbox Pacman.

Floyd knows how to hold and use his boxing skills when he's hurt. Pac doesn't, if he's hurt, he'll keep swinging, his defense IS his offense. If Mosley has him hurt bad, I think he'll finish him. No way Mosley wins by decision - even if he wins.

 

[Spectrum]

Even in his last few victories this was exposed. In the first few rounds of the Cotto fight, in the Clottey fight (whenever he decided to throw), and Margarito exposed how succeptible he is to body shots.

With Shanes experience, speed, and power combined with Brother Nazims knowledge I think they pull it off.

This is why I give Shane a puncher`s chance...because Pacman gets hit a lot... Clottey barely opened up in that fight and Pacman was looking like he got abused afterwards. His defense is suspect... his guard leaves him wide open for straight rights and he completely falls apart once a fighter puts pressure on him and throws combos...he cant fight going backwards at all...that is why he always struggles against counterpunchers.

Shane doesnt have the traditional toolkit that gives Pacman problems..but if there was ever a fight primed for an upset...this is it..

 

[Spectrum]

Floyd knows how to hold and use his boxing skills when he's hurt. Pac doesn't, if he's hurt, he'll keep swinging, his defense IS his offense. If Mosley has him hurt bad, I think he'll finish him. No way Mosley wins by decision - even if he wins.

Yep.. Mosley has to KO Pacman..and early... if this goes beyond 5 rounds, i think the fight is probably over.

 

[merce77]

Oh and Pac will be ready for Shane's straight right, I was watching him in training, it seems like that's what they are most prepped for. If it happens, it's the left hook that ko'd Mayorga and Vargas that will do the job.

 

[merce77]

Yep.. Mosley has to KO Pacman..and early... if this goes beyond 5 rounds, i think the fight is probably over.

I say 8. If Mosley can soften and slow down Pac enough in the early rounds, he has a chance late. But with Shane's old legs I would treat this as an 8 round fight if I were training Shane. Shane has to throw everything with murder written on it and keep flicking that jab in his face when he's not loading up. When Pacman gets close, tie him up and wrestle him, nobody does that to him, tie him up and hit to the body with the free hand. Don't wait for the ref to break ya'll up, push him off and use the straight right. Shane has to make this a rough, phone booth fight, take Pac to the ropes and don't let him off of them without paying for it.

 

[the13thround]

Margarito exposed how succeptible he is to body shots.

With Shanes experience, speed, and power combined with Brother Nazims knowledge I think they pull it off.

2 of Manny's 3 losses were from body shots.

Yes, I know that was a while ago during the pre-Roach days...

But the fact of the matter is that it happened, and like you said, Margarito buckled him to the body a few times when they fought.

 

[OutlawR.O.C.]

2 of Manny's 3 losses were from body shots.

Yes, I know that was a while ago during the pre-Roach days...

But the fact of the matter is that it happened, and like you said, Margarito buckled him to the body a few times when they fought.

No doubt.