Minus Chris Rock & Dave Chappelle, Where Are All The 'Smart' Black Comedians?

Ming Fei Hong

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What happened to all the social & political commentary? What would modern Black comedy be without the topics 'pussy/dick/fuckin', 'White/Black people contrasts', 'ghetto stereotypes' & Black men in drag? Is 'smart' Black Comedy dead? :dunno:
 
Can't say 'smart' in general is dead... especially in the comedy field. There's no shortage of idiot White comedians, but there are also very many 'smart' White comedians out there to balance it out. I've even seen White comedians who are normally pretty clever, dumb down their routine for a live Black audience. And the audience ate it up. :confused:
 
Of the current generation of comedian, I don't know. Everybody is clamoring to get the next spot on a hit sitcom or their own variety show. Nobody is pushing the envelope, but black comedy has been suffering for years.
 
there are a few out... but most of them are old school... like

Paul Mooney
DL Hugheley
Steve Harvey
Michael Coylar
George Wallace
Sommore
John Witherspoon
Kevin Hart
Tony Rock
Eddie Griffin
EarthQuake

just to name a few...starting to see a trend here...
 
All of em are in hiding because Bill Cosby told them that they couldn't curse during a performance.

All jokes aside though, I asked myself this shit the other day. My wife named some people from the previous list just for arguements sake like D.L. Hughley, but to be honest with you I don't find him, Steve Harvey, Ced Ent., or Eddie Grif. funny.

Maybe its an age/generational thing.
 
I guess it depends on who do you consider a smart black comedian? Because I see plenty of Chris Rock's and Dave Chappelle's out there. Not as good as those two don't get me wrong but there are similar acts out there.
 
all i hear is BLACK VS WHITE jokes these days... startin to get kinda soggy :smh:

Co-sign....

It's probably becuz they've grown up in a black culture in the past 20-30 years obsessing about race when historically speaking we got far less sh!t to really complain about now..

:smh:


Just come up w/ some funny jokes & stop using the same old tired bits & topics..
 
Can't say 'smart' in general is dead... especially in the comedy field. There's no shortage of idiot White comedians, but there are also very many 'smart' White comedians out there to balance it out. I've even seen White comedians who are normally pretty clever, dumb down their routine for a live Black audience. And the audience ate it up. :confused:

Name some please, (not really up on the comedic front).


But to me, it does seem like smart is dead from what I see around me. Which is why I don't do much...I can't take it. :angry:
 
there are a few out... but most of them are old school... like

Paul Mooney
DL Hugheley
Steve Harvey

Michael Coylar
George Wallace
Sommore
John Witherspoon

Kevin Hart
Tony Rock
Eddie Griffin
EarthQuake


just to name a few...starting to see a trend here...

Peace,

I disagree here, bruh.

Can't say 'smart' in general is dead... especially in the comedy field. There's no shortage of idiot White comedians, but there are also very many 'smart' White comedians out there to balance it out. I've even seen White comedians who are normally pretty clever, dumb down their routine for a live Black audience. And the audience ate it up. :confused:

Peace,

Are you serious? Can you please (I'm almost reluctant to ask) provide an example?
 
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Can't say 'smart' in general is dead... especially in the comedy field. There's no shortage of idiot White comedians, but there are also very many 'smart' White comedians out there to balance it out. I've even seen White comedians who are normally pretty clever, dumb down their routine for a live Black audience. And the audience ate it up. :confused:


Truthfully, I have to dumb down my act when I get in front of most black crowds because they are so accustomed to the black vs. white, roaches and bad credit jokes that you can't do anything else. If you go to a black comedy club for 2 months straight, you'll hear the same jokes from different comics just like on comic view. The sad thing is is that the owners of the clubs don't want anything different.
 
Kevin Hart is cool. He kinda like a blend. Doesn't tell typical nigga jokes the whole set.
 
Cats are just trying to get on with dumb shit, Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle weren't "smart comedians" when they started out, at least not 100% of the time.

When checks start rollin and audiences are guaranteed comedians speak on whatever they want.
 

Paul kinda dissappointed me with that interview he had on Dr. Phil. He had a legitimate national forum to speak on race issues and he couldn't get off his routine. He ended up soundly like a guy with a serious chip on his shoulder, with no way to explain it.
 
Name some please, (not really up on the comedic front).

But to me, it does seem like smart is dead from what I see around me. Which is why I don't do much...I can't take it. :angry:
On BET Comic View, P Diddy's comdy show & Def Comedy I've seen White comediand 'ghetto-fy' their routines in ways they didn't on comedy channel and else where. I don't recall their names. It was just a passing observation I made at the time.
Peace,

I disagree here, bruh.



Peace,

Are you serious? Can you please (I'm almost reluctant to ask) provide an example?
I've seen Gary Owen do it.
Truthfully, I have to dumb down my act when I get in front of most black crowds because they are so accustomed to the black vs. white, roaches and bad credit jokes that you can't do anything else. If you go to a black comedy club for 2 months straight, you'll hear the same jokes from different comics just like on comic view. The sad thing is is that the owners of the clubs don't want anything different.
There it is.
Cats are just trying to get on with dumb shit, Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle weren't "smart comedians" when they started out, at least not 100% of the time.

When checks start rollin and audiences are guaranteed comedians speak on whatever they want.
Both Chris & Dave were satircal when the started out. Yes, they had some low brow stuff too, but they've always ben smart.
 
Cats are just trying to get on with dumb shit, Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle weren't "smart comedians" when they started out, at least not 100% of the time.

When checks start rollin and audiences are guaranteed comedians speak on whatever they want.


That's because they were both teenagers when they started out. Dave was 14 when he started and Cris was 15(I think. I know he quit school when he started) there's not a lot a teenager can speak on. WHEN YOU GET OLDER AND MORE LEARNED ABOUT YOUR SURROUNDINGS, THE MORE YOU CAN GET INTO POLITICAL TOPICS. YOU HAVE TO BE VERY SMART TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND POLITICS THEN FLIP IT AND MAKE IT FUNNY. MOST BLACK COMICS WON'T DO MAIN STREAM COMEDY BECAUSE THEY ARE SCARED TO GO OUTSIDE OF THEIR COMFORT ZONE OR THEY FEEL AS THOUGH THEY ARE SELLING OUT. I DO MAINSTREAM BECAUSE YOU CAN BE MORE CLEVER IN YOUR JOKES AND IT PAYS MUCH MORE THAN BLACK COMEDY DOES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I HAVE NEVER BEEN RIP-OFF BY A WHITE CLUB OR PROMOTER.
 
Hannibal Burress (I think thats how you spell it) is pretty funny.
Hes was in some special called the akward kings of comedy. I never could find it tho.
 
All of em are in hiding because Bill Cosby told them that they couldn't curse during a performance.

All jokes aside though, I asked myself this shit the other day. My wife named some people from the previous list just for arguements sake like D.L. Hughley, but to be honest with you I don't find him, Steve Harvey, Ced Ent., or Eddie Grif. funny.

Maybe its an age/generational thing.

Or Maybe ignant niggas don't get smart comedy. If a smart comedian tells a joke and you dont find it funny, its probably about you.
 
There aren't any up and coming intelligent Black comedians. We just have.. Katt Williams.


And that's just sad. I used to like dude, but I don't know much many ninjas and motherfuckers I can sit thru during one show. Katt Williams don't know how to open his mouth without swearing. And his whole Money Mike/Pimp thing is beyond beating the dead horse.


 
What happened to all the social & political commentary? What would modern Black comedy be without the topics 'pussy/dick/fuckin', 'White/Black people contrasts', 'ghetto stereotypes' & Black men in drag? Is 'smart' Black Comedy dead? :dunno:

Spot on with this observation.

You left out the welfare jokes.

I cant watch Comic View for these reasons.
 
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