You left the culinary game?… what’s crazy a person with your skill set was making money independently during covid.. some individuals open up ghost kitchens in their cribs or were selling food out their crib to a select demographic or doing pop up shops, online sells, etc…or hitting the streets and selling food as a vendor.. some people definitely made a come up during the last 18 months..but than again it might be particular areas or states
Just a idea to throw at you.. you ever thought about utilizing YouTube, ticktock, ig and being an internet food personality?..not necessarily showing your face but giving cooking lessons on your own YouTube channel.. there’s money to be made from that outlet especially if some of your dishes are unique or easily understood by the viewer.. like if you know how to cook chicken 100 diff ways.. make a vid for each way..don’t have to be long.. just informative and interesting.. just an idea.. you can take it and use it
What you fail to realize is that your grievance is with the company itself, not the CEOs. The company decides what to pay the CEO. The CEO does not decide their own salary. This is basic business operations.@Tito_Jackson ...so you don't miss it again
Average worker's salary has increased by approximately .45% a year over 40 years.
CEO's salary has increased by over 30% a year, over 40 years.
40 years ago, average CEO comp was only 20 times the average worker...it's over 300 times now.
See the thing is, it's not just me saying CEOs are greedy, l've shown SEVERAL articles saying the same thing....and you know this.
Whether you want to admit it, doesn't concern me.
By stating this, you are conceding that you either do not understand economic or you are ignoring economics. For anyone to say that "I don't care where you are in this country, $15 hr is not a lot of money." is a blatant misunderstanding of regional cost of living.
It has everything to do with this argument. You believe that people are not paid enough. I argue that most people are irresponsible with their spending. They believe that magically they will make better financial decisions with more money. No, we saw it with the stimulus money. People spend more frivilously when more money is available.
Those are my words and I stand by them because they are true. Any businessman would tell you the same. I stated that because it is relevant to this conversation. You are resting your hat on the argument that "CEOs are greedy" and that they are paid too much. I simply stated that CEOs deserve to be paid more than a fry cook or similar worker.
So? CEOs are still working during furloughs. Did you even read to comprehend the article? The CEO in question received stocks in place of his salary. A company does this to augment the balance sheet. There are only a set number of stocks, they simply transferred those assets to the CEO instead of giving him the paycheck that he or she is owed. Plus, you completely ignored why I stated what you are saying is irrelevant. The CEO does not set his or her own salary. Why is that so hard to comprehend. The company does. The same company you are hoping will pay low-level workers more money. It is obvious that these companies, not the CEO prioritize generating income over what you would call "fair wages.: A CEO accepting a high salary and bonuses is human. Most sane humans would as well.
Just so we are clear here.....
We can just agree to disagree. I stand firm on my square knowing that I was raised to understand that I can change my circumstances if I choose to. The methods necessary to facilitate the change may be difficult and may not be what I like or even want to do. But, I have a choice whether to pursue the actions to make the change or not. With this, I was also raised to understand that I am not owed anything. If I do not work, I do not eat. If I want more money, I can work more hours, create a new revenue stream, spend less, make myself more valuable. These are the things I instilled into my wife, my sons, and my mentees.
What you fail to realize is that your grievance is with the company itself, not the CEOs. The company decides what to pay the CEO. The CEO does not decide their own salary. This is basic business operations.
Now, what you stated is true. However, none of that negates the fact that a person earning $15/ hr is a low-level worker and should not expect to be paid as a senior executive. CEOs get paid a lot. So what? If a person is not happy with their $15/hr job, they can quit and get another job. They can gain additional skills which will make them more valuable to the marketplace. They can get an additional job and work more hours. As of September 30th, 2021 a person not having two jobs is a choice because everyone on this board can get another job if they actually wanted to.
By stating this, you are conceding that you either do not understand economic or you are ignoring economics. For anyone to say that "I don't care where you are in this country, $15 hr is not a lot of money." is a blatant misunderstanding of regional cost of living.
Simply, $15/ hr in Alabama is not the same as $15/ hr in San Fransisco. And this is why most low-level workers in Alabama and similar locations don't even earn $15/hr. Did you know that?
It has everything to do with this argument. You believe that people are not paid enough. I argue that most people are irresponsible with their spending. They believe that magically they will make better financial decisions with more money. No, we saw it with the stimulus money. People spend more frivilously when more money is available.
Those are my words and I stand by them because they are true. Any businessman would tell you the same. I stated that because it is relevant to this conversation. You are resting your hat on the argument that "CEOs are greedy" and that they are paid too much. I simply stated that CEOs deserve to be paid more than a fry cook or similar worker.
So? CEOs are still working during furloughs. Did you even read to comprehend the article? The CEO in question received stocks in place of his salary. A company does this to augment the balance sheet. There are only a set number of stocks, they simply transferred those assets to the CEO instead of giving him the paycheck that he or she is owed. Plus, you completely ignored why I stated what you are saying is irrelevant. The CEO does not set his or her own salary. Why is that so hard to comprehend. The company does. The same company you are hoping will pay low-level workers more money. It is obvious that these companies, not the CEO prioritize generating income over what you would call "fair wages.: A CEO accepting a high salary and bonuses is human. Most sane humans would as well.
This part of the debate can be ended by posing this scenario.
Hypothetically, you and a white co-worker did the exact same job and worked the same hours with the same outcomes. One day HR decided that they wanted to triple your salary, but not change your work title or workload. Your white co-worker will still receive the basic pay. Would you turn down the raise? Would you quit? Do you think your co-worker would turn down the raise for you? If you quit, do you think that someone else would quickly accept what you declined?
Just so we are clear here.....
Your "receipts" and "writers around the world" position is rooted in an article written by this guy?
Just because it is on the internet or in print does not make it true or valid.
This guy is a hack writer for a small newspaper in Iowa. He is also the ED of the local AFL-CIO, which makes the article bias. This article is also an opinion piece by a person with an agenda.
Here is some trivia, what product does the AFL-CIO produce? How much does the president of the AFL-CIO get paid? How do the president and its executives get paid?
The product is people within the unions and the union workers who are already complaining about salaries pay these executives directly from their paychecks. The AFL-CIO president is paid over a quarter-million dollars before benefits. Sounds much like those "greedy CEOs you speak of."
We can just agree to disagree. I stand firm on my square knowing that I was raised to understand that I can change my circumstances if I choose to. The methods necessary to facilitate the change may be difficult and may not be what I like or even want to do. But, I have a choice whether to pursue the actions to make the change or not. With this, I was also raised to understand that I am not owed anything. If I do not work, I do not eat. If I want more money, I can work more hours, create a new revenue stream, spend less, make myself more valuable. These are the things I instilled into my wife, my sons, and my mentees.
There is no excuse for any able-bodied black man on this board or not on this board to be broke. Everyone can change their situation if they wanted to.
If $15/hr is not enough for you..........then do something about it.
I've never said that I was quoting you verbatim. Your repeated reference to CEOs salaries is an implication that "low level" workers were being unjustly compensated compared to CEOs. In science, when a person, such as yourself, makes comparisons regarding rates, conclusions can be inferred due to these comparisons. You directly compared the rate of pay increase that CEOs have received to the rate that "low level" workers have received. You exact statement:
If you give every human a roof over their head, a bed to sleep in , a full refrigerator, and access to a hot shower the world would already be on its way to progress.. you already have a more happier energy and vibe.. every human should have the right to those things I mentioned.. unfortunately there’s individuals in the world that don’t want that and created a system where those things are looked at as an accomplishment instead of an automatic situation.. the powers that be have the capability of making that happen but they don’t want to.. instead they take most of the cake and give out crumbs for society to battle over.. which leads to a class system and which leads to a have and have not world.. that right there is the center of the problem
My point was made. You purposely are attempting to redirect and ignore all of the points you have been proven false on.@Tito_Jackson ...hold on..
I was distracted on the phone, so I forgot about out bet. Where my money or when you gon dip?
I see you couldn't find ANY PROOF that I said low level workers should be paid the same.
Otherwise, you'd have mentioned it..
You'd have LOVED to shut me up...if you could prove I said that.
I guess you went Stevie Wonder again and didn't notice it.
Should I wait again for you to read the parts you conveniently skipped?
That tryna change the discussion don't work with me, son, but you continue to try.
We've had frauds on the board before. I don't know for sure that you are, but if you're not smart to debate what I said, without changing the subject, I sincerely have my doubts about anything else you've written.
Lucky for me and those who benefited from the fundraiser, your belief or opinion doesn't matter.Where was that fundraiser? At this point I don't believe a word you've typed. Liars typically over-embellish their tales.
Ya know...so now, you can tell me not only what I believe, but everyone else does as well..
"Why would you say that if you wasn't inferring that the rate of pay increase wasn't fair. What's your point? I believe that your point is that "low level" workers should be paid the same with regard to the rate of pay increase over time. I believe everyone reading this inferred this same thing. This is apparent by your repeated comparisons and personal attackson CEOs, calling them greedy"
Here's you're idiotic logic...if I stated a fact that CEOs salary has far outpaced the average worker, and while I DO believe it's unfair, your genius conclusion was that I said they should be equal?
Nobody is that stupid, Ivy League
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Admittedly, the house is not in the best neighborhood. Unfortunately, for those earning $15/ hr or less, these are some of the options that are available. My wife and I started in a home and neighborhood similar to this. We were able to gradually work our way up to the home we have now, A person earning $15/hr could move into this home, put in some sweat equity, and easily sell this home for 80K - 100K. If I was advising one of my mentees, I would also set him or her on a strict budget which included doubling the payment on the principle. This would increase the rate in which you the owner gained equity in the property. Realistically, I a person could move into this home and sell it two years later for a 20K profit having paid down 75% of the loan and cost of the home and walk away with close to a total of $35K to put towards a new home. If you took that $35K and used it as a 20% downpayment towards a $150,000 multi-family home, such as this:
And no one’s applying and it’s beautiful.
What data set are you using to prove your first sentence?
Been saying this from day one.
The quality of life, outside of top billionaires is changing for everybody.
Don’t know the breakdown but it will be a mix of both.
This is a super easy fix: pay skilled laborers what you owe them, which is not $15, $20 or $25 an hour and bump all workers that we view as non-skilled to the rates I just posted.
The college hustle was dead 20 years ago.
Working for less, he’ll I’ll say, far less.
Bingo. Wages need to be adjusted for inflation.
First and foremost, let’s get clarity so that your argument has fewer holes.What you fail to realize is that your grievance is with the company itself, not the CEOs. The company decides what to pay the CEO. The CEO does not decide their own salary. This is basic business operations.
Now, what you stated is true. However, none of that negates the fact that a person earning $15/ hr is a low-level worker and should not expect to be paid as a senior executive. CEOs get paid a lot. So what? If a person is not happy with their $15/hr job, they can quit and get another job. They can gain additional skills which will make them more valuable to the marketplace. They can get an additional job and work more hours. As of September 30th, 2021 a person not having two jobs is a choice because everyone on this board can get another job if they actually wanted to.
By stating this, you are conceding that you either do not understand economic or you are ignoring economics. For anyone to say that "I don't care where you are in this country, $15 hr is not a lot of money." is a blatant misunderstanding of regional cost of living.
Simply, $15/ hr in Alabama is not the same as $15/ hr in San Fransisco. And this is why most low-level workers in Alabama and similar locations don't even earn $15/hr. Did you know that?
It has everything to do with this argument. You believe that people are not paid enough. I argue that most people are irresponsible with their spending. They believe that magically they will make better financial decisions with more money. No, we saw it with the stimulus money. People spend more frivilously when more money is available.
Those are my words and I stand by them because they are true. Any businessman would tell you the same. I stated that because it is relevant to this conversation. You are resting your hat on the argument that "CEOs are greedy" and that they are paid too much. I simply stated that CEOs deserve to be paid more than a fry cook or similar worker.
So? CEOs are still working during furloughs. Did you even read to comprehend the article? The CEO in question received stocks in place of his salary. A company does this to augment the balance sheet. There are only a set number of stocks, they simply transferred those assets to the CEO instead of giving him the paycheck that he or she is owed. Plus, you completely ignored why I stated what you are saying is irrelevant. The CEO does not set his or her own salary. Why is that so hard to comprehend. The company does. The same company you are hoping will pay low-level workers more money. It is obvious that these companies, not the CEO prioritize generating income over what you would call "fair wages.: A CEO accepting a high salary and bonuses is human. Most sane humans would as well.
This part of the debate can be ended by posing this scenario.
Hypothetically, you and a white co-worker did the exact same job and worked the same hours with the same outcomes. One day HR decided that they wanted to triple your salary, but not change your work title or workload. Your white co-worker will still receive the basic pay. Would you turn down the raise? Would you quit? Do you think your co-worker would turn down the raise for you? If you quit, do you think that someone else would quickly accept what you declined?
Just so we are clear here.....
Your "receipts" and "writers around the world" position is rooted in an article written by this guy?
Just because it is on the internet or in print does not make it true or valid.
This guy is a hack writer for a small newspaper in Iowa. He is also the ED of the local AFL-CIO, which makes the article bias. This article is also an opinion piece by a person with an agenda.
Here is some trivia, what product does the AFL-CIO produce? How much does the president of the AFL-CIO get paid? How do the president and its executives get paid?
The product is people within the unions and the union workers who are already complaining about salaries pay these executives directly from their paychecks. The AFL-CIO president is paid over a quarter-million dollars before benefits. Sounds much like those "greedy CEOs you speak of."
We can just agree to disagree. I stand firm on my square knowing that I was raised to understand that I can change my circumstances if I choose to. The methods necessary to facilitate the change may be difficult and may not be what I like or even want to do. But, I have a choice whether to pursue the actions to make the change or not. With this, I was also raised to understand that I am not owed anything. If I do not work, I do not eat. If I want more money, I can work more hours, create a new revenue stream, spend less, make myself more valuable. These are the things I instilled into my wife, my sons, and my mentees.
There is no excuse for any able-bodied black man on this board or not on this board to be broke. Everyone can change their situation if they wanted to.
If $15/hr is not enough for you..........then do something about it.
And where they might be available, mass transit ain't going that way, and now, you've got to throw a whip and all of the expenses that come with it into the mix.
Something has to give soon because rent and mortgage Prices are getting extremely high and this is starting to fuck With white people because a lot of white young adults are moving back home with their parents so something has to give very soon before the whole shit go pop. Actually I hate to say it but it might need to go pop.
You in California too right? A fixer house here is 700k. Most people can’t save up nearly 200k cash to avoid PMI. Shit I have PMI but the value of my home went up over $300k in less than 2 years. A
I agree, pay SKILLED laborers more, not non-skilled laborers. A person making fries should not be paid the same as someone building roads, homes, etc.
There will ALWAYS be rich and poor. There are no societies that currently exist that do not have this. Here is a great quote I found:
I see your point, but there is much-needed context missing. I believe there is a college hustle and black folk have been played for years. You should NEVER send your child to college if they plan to major in anything other than STEM or ivy league MBA or law degrees.
IT degrees are just out of date. Every IT degree should also require certification along the way. IT degrees usually, but not always, help people would are interested in management.
This is 100% false and I have to kindly disagree with this. I attend board meetings for two organizations, one is a health system the other is an academic institution. CEO packages are generally initiated by the board of directors as you correctly stated who represents the company, but in reality the shareholders/ stakeholders. The CEO does not ever submit a compensation package. This never happens. The board, usually with the help of a consulting firm such as McKinsey, BCG, Deloitte, PwC, etc.
I do have an agenda. I can admit this. I want my people to do more and beat the system at its own game. My agenda is simple, fix what we can. I 100% acknowledge all of the roadblocks and systemic issues that hinder our progress. Racism and capitalism are real. But, I also recognize that many of our problems are self-inflicted and we have to at least own up to our part in this mess and do what we can to improve our situations.
I agree with this. The more you earn or are able to afford, the safer your living accommodations will be. Sad truth. I do not dispute that.
Having the system "go pop" sounds good in theory, but in reality, it will be the poor and those without resources that will suffer the most.
My brother, you can go just a few miles outside of ATL and buy a home and pay less than what you would pay in rent.
Yeah, I hate when they re-eval my house and the property tax increase is almost 50% higher. I had to petition this a couple of times.
I'm in texas now, but my step son is in California about to catch the blues.
I agree, pay SKILLED laborers more, not non-skilled laborers. A person making fries should not be paid the same as someone building roads, homes, etc.
There will ALWAYS be rich and poor. There are no societies that currently exist that do not have this. Here is a great quote I found:
"Poverty exists because mankind fails to use and distribute the earth’s resources and potential income in a remotely just way. Mankind lacks the political will, not the economic means, to end the most ugly and basic ‘poverty once and for all"
I agree with this. But, because I understand that this is real, I must now make a decision for me and my family...what side of the fence do I want to stand on.
Chew on this: the politicians that most black folk claim have done the most for us or are working for us are all (mostly) millionaires.
- John F. Kennedy $124 million
- John Kerry $200 million
- Al Gore $100 million
- Hilary Clinton $100 million
- Nancy Pelosi $114 million
- Joe Biden $20 million
- Barak Obama $60 million
The richest current politician is Mark Warner (D) who has a net worth of $200 million.
Here is where it gets deep:
63 percent of Democratic voters earn less than $15,000 per year. The most recent available data shows that the average wealth of democratic senators was $13,566,333, 199.558% difference as compared to the majority of democratic voters and the average wealth of democratic congressmen was $5,700,168 a 198.95% difference as compared to the majority of democratic voters.
I wanted to share this data to demonstrate that the problem is not CEOs, it is the entire system. CEOs (and other executives) are tools that are benefiting from the system.
FYI: I am not picking on dems. The republican disparity is just as bad. I am only showing the dems because we can not allow them to trick us into thinking that they are different and are the "good guys." None of them are the good guys.
I see your point, but there is much-needed context missing. I believe there is a college hustle and black folk have been played for years. You should NEVER send your child to college if they plan to major in anything other than STEM or ivy league MBA or law degrees.
I work with the "minority" students of our university. Every year I see way too many sociology, psychology, fashion design, music, art, communications, criminal justice, and other BS degrees from our brothers and sisters. Poor guidance and fear of a challenge are the major reasons I have seen for these decisions to choose these majors.
IT degrees are just out of date. Every IT degree should also require certification along the way. IT degrees usually, but not always, help people would are interested in management.
This is 100% false and I have to kindly disagree with this. I attend board meetings for two organizations, one is a health system the other is an academic institution. CEO packages are generally initiated by the board of directors as you correctly stated who represents the company, but in reality the shareholders/ stakeholders. The CEO does not ever submit a compensation package. This never happens. The board, usually with the help of a consulting firm such as McKinsey, BCG, Deloitte, PwC, etc.
The CEO candidate can either accept or counter the proposed package. Most accept with small changes.
The CEO's salary is based upon pay for performance regarding the company's financial success. Bonuses are linked to company performance that encourages CEOs to work harder and make better decisions for stockholders. This causes executives to behave more like owners because they have a stake in the business in the form of stock ownership.
My question is this: If you were offered a CEO position with a huge package and salary that was much larger proportionally to every other employee, would you take it or would you decline it?
I do have an agenda. I can admit this. I want my people to do more and beat the system at its own game. My agenda is simple, fix what we can. I 100% acknowledge all of the roadblocks and systemic issues that hinder our progress. Racism and capitalism are real. But, I also recognize that many of our problems are self-inflicted and we have to at least own up to our part in this mess and do what we can to improve our situations.
I agree with this. The more you earn or are able to afford, the safer your living accommodations will be. Sad truth. I do not dispute that.
Having the system "go pop" sounds good in theory, but in reality, it will be the poor and those without resources that will suffer the most.
My brother, you can go just a few miles outside of ATL and buy a home and pay less than what you would pay in rent.
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You could be in a house like this with about $5000 upfront cost, most if not all can be funded via first-time homebuyer grants and cashback from the seller. Stay in the house for 2 years while doing upgrades, sell it and buy a house close to ATL if you want while paying approximately $650-$850 per month. It is doable. We have to think outside the box.
Yeah, I hate when they re-eval my house and the property tax increase is almost 50% higher. I had to petition this a couple of times.
Regarding PMI, you can also refinance to eliminate PMI. But, if your value has gone up, getting a new appraisal would be the best option.
On a side note, property tax is another way they keep "certain" people out of certain neighborhoods. It is a dirty game out here.
Your father was earning what is equivalent to $172,003.20 in today's earnings which would put him in the top 5% of all earners in the US. You are considered to be in the top 2% earning $250K per year. You are fortunate.
I never said that the homes were luxury. I even conceded that they are not in the best neighborhoods. But, I also said multiple times is that a person must live within their means. One of the counterarguments was that there was no housing available. My point was simply that there is housing and a path to upgrade your living situation over time. I also added to the point by stating that in my opinion, people are not willing to do what is needed to improve their situations. people want to have a particular lifestyle without having to work for it.
Actually, this is validation for me. The idea that going with the crowd means you are right is asinine.
