You obviously have (or had, I can't tell) some major problems in your life where you think Tommy is some sort of moral hero for the black community. The dude is mentally unstable at best.
Umar Johnson got beef with Boyce Watkins now ???
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You obviously have (or had, I can't tell) some major problems in your life where you think Tommy is some sort of moral hero for the black community. The dude is mentally unstable at best.
I disagree with his last statement, "Always our downfall"?
Agreed
Would you work for free for me?
Would he recommend that any black come work for free, for me?
The commisiosn I charge from all my bean pie sales men is 10% while allowing them to live off of 15% of whatever they oin. Even though that same 15% will not allow them enough to pay their rent, it pretty much amounts to the same amount of profit that they Jews allow these rappers to live off of. 15% of what they produce while pocketing the rest. That is how I run my bean pie scam. Motherfucker.
Would he recommend that any black come work for free, for me?
The commisiosn I charge from all my bean pie sales men is 10% while allowing them to live off of 15% of whatever they oin. Even though that same 15% will not allow them enough to pay their rent, it pretty much amounts to the same amount of profit that they Jews allow these rappers to live off of. 15% of what they produce while pocketing the rest. That is how I run my bean pie scam. Motherfucker.
Thats the difference between me and others, I don't go on the internet looking for moral heros... Thats the problem with some of us, yall looking at Tommy, Tariq, and Johnson like yall know them...
I don't know none of them so how can I say I like or dislike any of them... All I can say is that all of them make good points at time and when they do I take the gems each and everyone of them drops..
So fuck you trying to guess people mental status based off some 20 min video off the internet, all I am studying is the man's logic and if it it adds up or not.
I see what you saying. A broke clock can be right sometime and you don't discard the message if it makes sense even if the messenger may be flawed about other things. I try to be objective in my stance like that as well.
Tommy may be right about SOME things but Id be hard pressed to name drop him as any sort of authority on matters he's far too divisive for me to even speak in defense of him.
But I agree glean what's good from them and drop the rest.
"I see what you saying. A broke clock can be right sometime and you don't discard the message if it makes sense even if the messenger may be flawed about other things. I try to be objective in my stance like that as well.
Tommy may be right about SOME things but Id be hard pressed to name drop him as any sort of authority on matters he's far too divisive for me to even speak in defense of him.
But I agree glean what's good from them and drop the rest."
No man should be the authority on anything, everyone, including me should be held under scrutiny and his facts should be weighed in terms of them being accurate or not... You notice everyone calls him Coon, mental unstable, woman hater and the list goes on, but none of them have shit to say about his facts..
Its like a scientist says that an asteroid is heading strait to earth, are you going to shrug your shoulders thinking your going to be fine just because you believe he is a coon or a woman basher or something? Does who you think he is somehow changes the validity of his facts?
Tommy may be right about SOME things but Id be hard pressed to name drop him as any sort of authority on matters he's far too divisive for me to even speak in defense of him.
But I agree glean what's good from them and drop the rest."
No man should be the authority on anything, everyone, including me should be held under scrutiny and his facts should be weighed in terms of them being accurate or not... You notice everyone calls him Coon, mental unstable, woman hater and the list goes on, but none of them have shit to say about his facts..
Its like a scientist says that an asteroid is heading strait to earth, are you going to shrug your shoulders thinking your going to be fine just because you believe he is a coon or a woman basher or something? Does who you think he is somehow changes the validity of his facts?
You are fighting hard to defend a person who calls black women "Black bitches" (over and over again)...He's beefed with everyone online personality and even some people that he doesn't know - Jill Scott was one of them, dude made a whole video about her calling her BLACK BITCH!BLACK BITCH! BLACK BITCH!! over and over again.
Saying quote: "I HATE you black people and that ya'll need to be purged". Blaming black women for every problem he has. Going on about single mothers then LATER we find out he has KIDS that HE HIMSELF doesn't take care of.
You can tell this person is just off (Well maybe I can and numerous others besides you). Here's the funny part there are many women I don't like, but why add the "BLACK" part of "BITCH"? Why is it important to attach race (even when it has nothing to do with race) when you are attacking a women? There is no good points to the guy AT ALL (And believe me in tried). I watched some of his early videos, chuckled said "right on" then slowly but surely I started to notice the craziness, the vitriol in his videos. Always crying about he's being attacked. Attacking people before he's been attacked. Crying on video about people are messing with him....DUDE IS NUTS.
*Also notice that there are white supremacists commenting on his posts all the time and agreeing with his bullshit. That should be the BIGGEST red flag there is.
They call him those things because that's how he comes off. He's far from a scientist wouldn't compare him that close. He is so polarizing with his criticisms to the point he makes absurd and gross generalizations. Like I was saying he is still a broke clock but because he says some things right don't mean he gets a pass for the majority of the bullshit he spits 24/7.
None can listen to him long enough to objectively consider what facts he does mention because his message is so off putting and offensive. Whatever facts he does drop or little legitamacy he does have on a subject is quickly swallowed up by the vile commentary he is known to spit.
I've never sought to watch any of his content beyond what gets posted here and I almost never watch many of those. It took a few videos to get his MO and I can't fuck with him, there are better people out there who can get their point across without all the disgusting commentary that Tommy makes.
Publically defending him is just a bad look all around no matter how right he may be on some subjects. His brand is a bitter hatred. He's your typical average frustrated chump thug blamed who's had a hard time gaining the social status to attract the type of black women he was really attracted to. So he revels in the abuse of black women by who he feels overlooked him. He tries to hide his twisted rhetoric and hatred behind a veneer of pro-blackness to throw you off but his true colors show through. Dude is off.
You are fighting hard to defend a person who calls black women "Black bitches" (over and over again)...He's beefed with everyone online personality and even some people that he doesn't know - Jill Scott was one of them, dude made a whole video about her calling her BLACK BITCH!BLACK BITCH! BLACK BITCH!! over and over again.
Saying quote: "I HATE you black people and that ya'll need to be purged". Blaming black women for every problem he has. Going on about single mothers then LATER we find out he has KIDS that HE HIMSELF doesn't take care of.
You can tell this person is just off (Well maybe I can and numerous others besides you). Here's the funny part there are many women I don't like, but why add the "BLACK" part of "BITCH"? Why is it important to attach race (even when it has nothing to do with race) when you are attacking a women? There is no good points to the guy AT ALL (And believe me in tried). I watched some of his early videos, chuckled said "right on" then slowly but surely I started to notice the craziness, the vitriol in his videos. Always crying about he's being attacked. Attacking people before he's been attacked. Crying on video about people are messing with him....DUDE IS NUTS.
*Also notice that there are white supremacists commenting on his posts all the time and agreeing with his bullshit. That should be the BIGGEST red flag there is.
He be on that ether bullshit sometimes and goes way too far... Its just like most black men when they start to ock, we often go way too far often losing sight of the issues..You are fighting hard to defend a person who calls black women "Black bitches" (over and over again)...He's beefed with everyone online personality and even some people that he doesn't know - Jill Scott was one of them, dude made a whole video about her calling her BLACK BITCH!BLACK BITCH! BLACK BITCH!! over and over again.
Saying quote: "I HATE you black people and that ya'll need to be purged". Blaming black women for every problem he has. Going on about single mothers then LATER we find out he has KIDS that HE HIMSELF doesn't take care of.
You can tell this person is just off (Well maybe I can and numerous others besides you). Here's the funny part there are many women I don't like, but why add the "BLACK" part of "BITCH"? Why is it important to attach race (even when it has nothing to do with race) when you are attacking a women? There is no good points to the guy AT ALL (And believe me in tried). I watched some of his early videos, chuckled said "right on" then slowly but surely I started to notice the craziness, the vitriol in his videos. Always crying about he's being attacked. Attacking people before he's been attacked. Crying on video about people are messing with him....DUDE IS NUTS.
*Also notice that there are white supremacists commenting on his posts all the time and agreeing with his bullshit. That should be the BIGGEST red flag there is.
But note, Tommy be playing mind games with those chicks too because he always brings up how many black women support people calling them bitches and get mad at others for saying the same thing...
Here is a good example of a black woman being called all types of negative shit by a white boy and grinning...
My take is that he goes over the top just to point out the hypocrisy... Not my style nor do I agree, but I sort of get it... Basically its if you don't like to be called a bitch don't support all people who say it, not cherry pick them based on whether or not you like them or if they have money or not..
Also at least Tommy keeps it 100 admitting that at times he gets ghetto as fuck and goes to far with it, not trying to come off as some saint like some of them, but this extra shit is not my cup of tea and is not what I take from him...
Its just like I don't take that crispy puppet ock shit or the big mack extra shit from Tariq, instead I choose to take the stuff that makes sense leaving that other extra shit on the cutting floor and the only reason why I even bother listening to anything Tommy has to say, is because he does touch on issues in the black community that other so called pro blacks seem to be afraid to touch...
Because the way I see it, nobody is talking about injustice and often racist child support system that's out there destroying both the black man and his family.. Thank god I never had to go through the system but I've seen many brothers lives
Question:
How EXACTLY did this thread go from talking about the beef between Watkins & Johnson, and became talking about the self hating mutt, Tyrone Jerome Harris (I mean Tommy Sotomayor)???
Anyways; after watching the initial video posted of that girl asking what happened to the money raised by Umar Johnson, I see the continued pattern used by Boyce Watkins in many of the videos posted on his site.
- Dr. Boyce Watkins is a close friend/tool of Cornell West.
- Cornell West has been beefing with President Obama for 7 yrs now.
- As a result, Boyce Watkins uses EVERY opportunity to attack & criticize Obama whenever possible.
- Watkins only posts videos profiling the views of "like minded" intellectuals, scholars or folks who share his negative view of Obama.
- The female in the video went from questioning Umar Johnson and quickly changed focus to going after Obama and Al Sharpton.
Honestly, the ongoing online squabbles and beefs involving online Black voices are truly sad and highlights the belief that Blacks cannot get it together no matter what stage in life we are. Very sad indeed...
How EXACTLY did this thread go from talking about the beef between Watkins & Johnson, and became talking about the self hating mutt, Tyrone Jerome Harris (I mean Tommy Sotomayor)???
Anyways; after watching the initial video posted of that girl asking what happened to the money raised by Umar Johnson, I see the continued pattern used by Boyce Watkins in many of the videos posted on his site.
- Dr. Boyce Watkins is a close friend/tool of Cornell West.
- Cornell West has been beefing with President Obama for 7 yrs now.
- As a result, Boyce Watkins uses EVERY opportunity to attack & criticize Obama whenever possible.
- Watkins only posts videos profiling the views of "like minded" intellectuals, scholars or folks who share his negative view of Obama.
- The female in the video went from questioning Umar Johnson and quickly changed focus to going after Obama and Al Sharpton.
Honestly, the ongoing online squabbles and beefs involving online Black voices are truly sad and highlights the belief that Blacks cannot get it together no matter what stage in life we are. Very sad indeed...
You have to careful of black activists that get money or is seeking money from the same people they are protesting against. The NAACP, the preacher activist, and other groups are suspect with money flowing in as donations or business opportunity, I enjoy his videos and insight but I am skeptical.
It's fucked up to smile in a person's face and then get online and bash them. At the same time, Umar has to learn how to control his emotions.
see now he's being obtuse. These people(black feminists) can upload critical videos on their own channels. the minute it goes up on his channel one would think he supports it. if he doesnt there needs to be a disclaimer before the video letting the viewer know Dr. Boyce does not support these videos on his channel.
Boyce took the high road and Umar really came off like a bitch here. The time he uses to create meme after meme can easily be used to create one 5 minute video and answer on some grown man shit.
Nigga is coming off bipolar for real. I guess its true about psychologists being the craziest motherfuckers.
The white supremacist are loving this beef. Two black intellectuals who should be models of black manhood and social consciousness cant even get along.
Good ole boys over at stormfront are loving this shit!
Good ole boys over at stormfront are loving this shit!
awww man. i was rolling with Dr. Boyce until i saw this video. Ah this nigga is a deep down hater of dude and he let it all out in this video.
theyre both coming off as world class clowns
with Boyce having the bigger clown shoes
agreed.
take that sambomayor defending shit to another thread, dumbass.
sad shit..
interested to hear what tariq has to say tonight on ustream.
sad shit..
interested to hear what tariq has to say tonight on ustream.
I have to ride with Umar, he is the only one that is actually trying
to do something, and it seems before he can even get started he is getting
chastised for whom he sleeps with and nickel and dimed before he even raises
the money, let him reach his goals and lets see what he can do, for him to have
to take time out to go over bullshit, just seems like they tryin to put a monkey wrench in the program before it gets started..
Im sure the idea of so called blacks actually doing for themselves scares a lot of people..
I also know that there are many double agents who are in positions to infiltrate and place that monkey wrench where their masters want them to..
I have to ride with Umar because although Boyce speaks well, that is all he is doing.. is speaking..
Has he come up with any plans or said anything that actually motivates people
towards a goal??
and please with this fuckin sotomayor clown.... he is tryin to be
dark skinned bill orielly, but he has waaay tooo many broken glasss
in his glasshouse to speak on any fuckin thing..
how any sane thinking person takes him seriously is beyond me.
to do something, and it seems before he can even get started he is getting
chastised for whom he sleeps with and nickel and dimed before he even raises
the money, let him reach his goals and lets see what he can do, for him to have
to take time out to go over bullshit, just seems like they tryin to put a monkey wrench in the program before it gets started..
Im sure the idea of so called blacks actually doing for themselves scares a lot of people..
I also know that there are many double agents who are in positions to infiltrate and place that monkey wrench where their masters want them to..
I have to ride with Umar because although Boyce speaks well, that is all he is doing.. is speaking..
Has he come up with any plans or said anything that actually motivates people
towards a goal??
and please with this fuckin sotomayor clown.... he is tryin to be
dark skinned bill orielly, but he has waaay tooo many broken glasss
in his glasshouse to speak on any fuckin thing..
how any sane thinking person takes him seriously is beyond me.
Boyce is great at finance, but once he steps outside of that he's weak. And his staff is full of women, mostly feminists. He's allowed this Maria Lloyd chick to straight play him. She's somewhere laughing while he's getting fired on in the front lines by Umar. Boyce's judgement when it comes to women is WEAK. Two apology videos in 1 night? I'm done with Umar the next? Boyce took an L on this 1.
Let me get this right..... A man who makes his bread and butter criticizing others dosent want to be criticized ..... smh!
White supremacy needs black so called leaders to keep fighting like this.
The homies at storm front must be celebrating heavy.
The homies at storm front must be celebrating heavy.
Yea he may be an intellectual wordsmith, but he comes off way too soft to be
a leader..
I aint hatin on him, Im just saying he aint gonna lead anyone to any promise land..
and it seems he is tryin to get some kind of street cred by riding damon dash...
I mean who takes damon dash seriously at this point...
he looks the type to get into a relationship and get pussy whipped with
the quickness...
Context of Two dumbass niggas!
Yes Sir
First intelligent post in this thread. Why in the fuck is Boyce even questioning Dr Umar Johnson's degrees? Some black people cant stand to see positive, influential black men thrive. This is the same thing as when Donald Trump and bunch of other racists were questioning Obama's birth certificate.
It's not a bad look at all. Mother fuck Boyce Watkins for even questioning his degree. Umar is/ was right about him. Umar just got too emotional with his response
welp, Tariq pretty much told us where him & Umar stand these days
go to the 6:57 mark
go to the 6:57 mark
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