WHY DOES #ADOS ALWAYS CITE RIGHTWING SOURCES FOR THEIR ARGUMENTS...?.(receipts galore!)

[shaddyvillethug]

I'm sorry Babe, but I had to tap out. We're back to the beginning. Black folks who want tangibles but only from the democrats, for whom they don't want to vote. They've basically said if a Republican is in charge they arent going to ask for anything, and then proceeded to tell folks not to vote dem so we can keep republicans in charge. Unfrigginbelievable. It's circular at this point. There's no point in even discussing tangibles because they have no plan to get them or put people in power to make it happen. They just want to be vocal in their disenfranchisement and draw attention to themselves, but take no action to remedy it. .

So to recap, we don't ask for tangibles unless dems are in power, but we aren't going to put dems in power because they don't do anything for black folks. My quote below sums up my thinking on all this. You can keep going back and forth with Vaiz, Snowball, Pinky and the Brain if you want to, but between their stupid and your ALL CAPS PAGE LONG PARAGRAPHS , unless I see something truly egregious that I can't let pass, me and my eyes are done.

Why did u and cash and watcher and actin and other vote republican?

 

[mangobob79]

My vote will not count towards helping you immigrants.
I know that make you niggaz mad but I don’t care, lmao.
All that oppose ADOS are really showing your true, foreign, colors.​

DO SO , DONT VOTE !!!!

U THINK UR VOTE AFFECTS ME EITHER WAY ?

 

[God Dammit]

DO SO , DONT VOTE !!!!

U THINK UR VOTE AFFECTS ME EITHER WAY ?

​

You should be asking yourself that question.
Y’all niggaz keep making these threads because you want us to vote FOR YOU.
Fuck you niggaz.

it’s very obvious too that you niggaz are not ADOS.
We get the first president that put a foot on the necks of foreigners and look at all of these threads popping up.

welp... I don’t know what to tell you foreigners, but I ain’t casting my vote your way

​

 

[Soul On Ice]

Uplifting our people means shitting on other folks who look just like us? We can't uplift DOAS without disparaging other black folks, many our distant cousins? That's not the lesson I'd hope we learn from white supremacy. Black power and white power have different connotations for a reason. It sounds like you don't want to stop oppression, you just want to be the one doing the oppressing.

IMO, there are certain things black folk should be against, due to our personal history, kids in cages and separating families among them. Do we have to allow immigration or be for it? No. But being ok with mistreatment of people and being ok with folks being denied due process after our adventures with the legal system, means it's not the behavior we're against, we're just against it happening to US. No one is saying you need to march and protest, make friends or have folks in your house, I just want the bare minimum of keeping folks out of power who allow it.

Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.

you got a good heart sis.

But men are talking (to the boys). STFU and go make us a sandwich.

 

[mangobob79]

Black folks who want tangibles but only from the democrats, for whom they don't want to vote. They've basically said if a Republican is in charge they arent going to ask for anything, and then proceeded to tell folks not to vote dem so we can keep republicans in charge. Unfrigginbelievable. It's circular at this point. There's no point in even discussing tangibles because they have no plan to get them or put people in power to make it happen. They just want to be vocal in their disenfranchisement and draw attention to themselves, but take no action to remedy it. .

So to recap, we don't ask for tangibles unless dems are in power, but we aren't going to put dems in power because they don't do anything for black folks.

camille pretty much sums it up !!
y'all can go back to posting articles from rightwing orgs, and acting like its legit journalism, & y'alls leaders can return to her seat at John Tanton's White supremacist org, while tonetits writes more manufactured narrative outrage articles for rightwing media outlets about some boogeyman black immigrant athlete who gave kids shoe and as a result decimated the black community retroactively from the 60s to 2020!
ya know? coming up with manufactured scenarios where black immigrants depleted jobs, housing & schools for #ados not to be able to do, some SUPER RANDOM SUPER IMMIGRANT NEEGA ONLINE whose dumb actions & words must be the definitive experience of every black immigrant !
ya know? the 7% of black immigrants in america who held back the 90%+ of native black american !
these black immigrants coming with their dusty crusted sandal wearing hiv carrying, gangs creating , ratchet behavior spreading to the black community becos as we know none of that existed until these immigrants got here! everything was great under reagan until obama got here ! these will magically bring reparation once we get black folks to stop voting dem!
while never creating political pacs or org to primary candidates , while never holding the current occupant of the whitehouse & his party who have the power to give reparations to task!

 

[NightMare Paint]

Uplifting our people means shitting on other folks who look just like us? We can't uplift DOAS without disparaging other black folks, many our distant cousins? That's not the lesson I'd hope we learn from white supremacy. Black power and white power have different connotations for a reason. It sounds like you don't want to stop oppression, you just want to be the one doing the oppressing.

IMO, there are certain things black folk should be against, due to our personal history, kids in cages and separating families among them. Do we have to allow immigration or be for it? No. But being ok with mistreatment of people and being ok with folks being denied due process after our adventures with the legal system, means it's not the behavior we're against, we're just against it happening to US. No one is saying you need to march and protest, make friends or have folks in your house, I just want the bare minimum of keeping folks out of power who allow it.

Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.

None of them can articulate why African ancestry is irrelevant. Why being a product of slave trade to such a specific region is more important than thousands of years of said ancestry. Why an individual's value to the collective that calls itself ADOS is dependent principally upon being a component of European commerce.

 

[Camille]

I don’t think any of the others can be persuaded and lobbied anyway because they were never genuine in the first place. Warren used to be GOP. Biden may as well have been, considering his right-wing, pro-segregationist views. So they are already hostile to black issues! Regardless of what they say! Look at the track record! At least Bernie has a consistent left-wing socialist history.

And no, I don’t want to hold the line. As I’ve said, this is scorched-Earth policy. Black people struggle anyway and are accustomed to it. But let some of these other people get that work under Trump. Let America learn its lesson sbout Trump the hard way, just like Germany did under Hitler.

A lot of these immigrants, especially the ones who like to push the “lazy black Americans” narrative, have seen how quickly and easily their lives can be compromised when you have the semblance of an overt nativist, white supremacist government in power. I know exactly what forcesteeler was getting at when he posted the below:

Y'all kill me talking about what black folks survived before. SOME black folks survived, a lot didn't, the survivors suffered and we are still dealing with the fallout and effects on our community. I don't believe in suffering for the sake of suffering or for the sake of noble victimhood. There is no virtue in this. You're welcome to do so, but count me out.

Lazy, black Americans is WS propaganda the world gets exposed to before they ever meet an actual black American. Personal relationships eradicate these falsehoods.

Regardless, I see 2016 taught you nothing. There is no point in our continuing to have these discussions. I'm not trying to collapse the system, and I don't want to burn everything to hell simply because y'all want black only benefits y'all can't even verbalize and think you can only get through dems y'all refuse to elect. It's madness.

 

[NightMare Paint]

you got a good heart sis.

But men are talking (to the boys). STFU and go make us a sandwich.

Goddamn. Nigga please be joking...

 

[Camille]

you got a good heart sis.

But men are talking (to the boys). STFU and go make us a sandwich.

So, I see you've picked up KT's habit of trying to send me to the kitchen by asking to be fed when you don't have a good answer. I'll take your response as I do his - concession to my point. Now, go make your own damn sandwich.

 

[gene cisco]

You would have to cite specific posts from him to show otherwise, but I think gene generally leans the way I do: that is, we should critically assess each candidate, party, and policy and weigh their overall effects on the native black population.

You need DATA! for your second assertion. Black voter turnout may have been down in 2016 because of the low quality, no-black-agenda-having candidates who were running. Or due to other issues like gerrymandering.

Listen man, that ol bitch hog Watcher is insane. He admits to voting for Bush so is acting like a reformed whore about politics now. Wagging his finger about anyone critical of these lame ass democrats.

I'm with assessing each candidate and voting out do-nothing democrats. Obviously, my biggest obstacle is that the black community is still allowing itself to be exploited after 50 years. Shit is embarrassing. It will be another 2 decades before the majority admit Obama got over. Always behind.

You see how all these arguments go? Demand something for your vote and you're a bot or a republican. State facts that these democrats ain't doing shit for the black community(outside of trickle down effect) and it's "what have republicans done". We don't vote republican. We vote democrat. Republicans are irrelevant. Also, they ain't been in charge of these majority black cities.

Imagine getting mad at your neighbor's wife because your wife ain't cooking or giving you pussy. Wouldn't you hold your own wife accountable since you're the one providing for her? That's how it is with democrats. We should be holding them accountable instead of bitching about republicans. Because even when democrats have the presidency and both houses, we get shit(a matter of record). Even when democrats are the mayor and city council for decades( another matter of record), we get shit.

Democrats are like the wife who just wants the credit card and then you can go fuck yourself. The pussy and meals supposed to come AFTER the spending spree, but never come.

Watcher is also pissed Trump don't got me in emotions. Sky been falling for 4 years now. Meanwhile, board members talking about six figure pools. Obama or Trump ain't going to make or break folks determined to get it and know how to navigate the obstacles that haven't changed in 50 years.

 

[mangobob79]

You should be asking yourself that question.
Y’all niggaz keep making these threads because you want us to vote FOR YOU.
Fuck you niggaz.

it’s very obvious too that you niggaz are not ADOS.
We get the first president that put a foot on the necks of foreigners and look at all of these threads popping up.

welp... I don’t know what to tell you foreigners, but I ain’t casting my vote your way

​

your leaders obsession with creating 20 threads about some perceived opposition to native black american population from foreign black population, & creating 90page boogeyman black immigrants threads where yall are scouring the internet for every little perceived situation that can be created into an anti-immigrant post with links to rightwing websites is what should bother u !
what should bother u is ur leaders trying to correlate an immigrant athlete working in a global marketplace giving his shoes to kids is the reason the black community cant close the wealth gap of 4 decades and is the reason we cant get reparations from dems who we dont want to vote for anyway!!

well, get comfy cos i wont be silent about #ados #teeshirtcompany #adoshategroup #adosismaga becos i wont sit back and watch black folks get gaslit into further devastation!
u speak of fear of Trump ? how?
im pretty sure majority of black immigrants in america the 90%+ are legal residents , 2 & 3rd generations deep ! so trump couldnt shit to them!
but create ur narrative and carry on anyway.. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO TELL U EITHER

 

[God Dammit]

your leaders obsession with creating 20 threads about some perceived opposition to native black american pop from foreign black pop, & creating 90page boogeyman black immigrants threads where yall are scouring the internet for every little perceived situation that can be created into an anti-immigrant post with links to rightwing websites is what should bother u !
what should bother u is ur leaders trying to correlate an immigrant athlete working in a global marketplace giving his shoes to kids is the reason the black community cant close the wealth gap of 4 decades and is the reason we cant get reparations from dem who we dont want to vote for anyway!!

well, get comfy cos i wont be silent about #ados #teeshirtcompany #adoshategroup #adosismaga becos i wont sit back and watch black folks get gaslit into further devastation!
u speak of fear of Trump ? how?
im pretty sure majority of black immigrants in america the 90%+ are legal residents , 2 & 3rd generations deep ! so trump couldnt shit to them!
but create ur narrative and carry on anyway.. I DONT KNOW WHAT TO TELL U EITHER

​

Non of what you stated is my view points/don’t concern me.
What do you not understand?!

if no party is doing anything/reparations for American Descendants of Slaves, I’M NOT VOTING FOR THEM!
I’m tired of the “all inclusive” bull that we’ve been voting for because it benefits every group except for ADOS.

if you’re still confused on where I stand then I can’t help you.​

 

[mangobob79]

None of them can articulate why African ancestry is irrelevant. Why being a product of slave trade to such a specific region is more important than thousands of years of said ancestry. Why an individual's value to the collective that calls itself ADOS is dependent principally upon being a component of European commerce.

becos anti-afrikan sentiments are squarely centered in their ideology ! they spend so much time on demonizing black folks with some foreign ancestry u would think that was a central strategy to obtaining reparations !
it gets so sad their leader tonetits had a fit becos folks wanted to go to Ghana !! but non for thousands who travel to europe or dubai every year trying to floss or the bgolians who travel south to buy cheap poosy !

its so comical that a foreign black player (giannis) working in a free global market economy gives shoes to kids and he gets outraged to write a hit piece correlating that to the devastation of milwaukee's black community !

for some reason they believe that creating a mill industry of anti-afrikan xenophobia will lead to the pearly gates of reparations!
he even said hes is closer to European,so marrying a European is more in-race than marrying another black person who isnt #ados

 

[Drayonis]

you got a good heart sis.

But men are talking (to the boys). STFU and go make us a sandwich.

Man, I thought you had more sense than that.

 

[mangobob79]

Goddamn. Nigga please be joking...

So, I see you've picked up KT's habit of trying to send me to the kitchen by asking to be fed when you don't have a good answer. I'll take your response as I do his - concession to my point. Now, go make your own damn sandwich.

Man, I thought you had more sense than that.

yall surprised?

 

[Drayonis]

Non if what you stated is my view points/don’t concern me.
What do you not understand?!

if no party is doing anything/reparations for American Descendants of Slaves, I’M NOT VOTING FOR THEM!
I’m tired of the “all inclusive” bull that we’ve been voting for because it benefits every group except for ADOS.

if you’re still confused on where I stand then I can’t help you.​

Nobody cares if you don't vote. You weren't doing it anyway correct? People are just pointing out that your logic doesn't equate to reparations. Sit out every election from now until you're buried, it doesn't = reparations.

Do you playa.

 

[Joe Money]

Uplifting our people means shitting on other folks who look just like us? We can't uplift DOAS without disparaging other black folks, many our distant cousins? That's not the lesson I'd hope we learn from white supremacy. Black power and white power have different connotations for a reason. It sounds like you don't want to stop oppression, you just want to be the one doing the oppressing.

IMO, there are certain things black folk should be against, due to our personal history, kids in cages and separating families among them. Do we have to allow immigration or be for it? No. But being ok with mistreatment of people and being ok with folks being denied due process after our adventures with the legal system, means it's not the behavior we're against, we're just against it happening to US. No one is saying you need to march and protest, make friends or have folks in your house, I just want the bare minimum of keeping folks out of power who allow it.

Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.

Looking like us doesn't mean they ARE us. Or we are them. And many of them make that very clear. You are clinging to a "we-all-black" paradigm that is no longer applicable to Black America, if it ever was in the first place. And this is a rift that long pre-dates #ADOS. A lot more of us are just now more comfortable coming out and talking about it.

Even if you do reject what Tone and Yvette have to say, I would hope you would accept what these Emory students say:




Or what this professor has to say:





And yes, there are certain things black folk should be against, due to our history, and one of them is actively assisting in importing more people who will treat us with contempt and ally with the dominant power structure to shit on us.

This mistreatment of people you are talking about is being done by white officials voted into power by a majority of the white electorate. That isn't on us.

you got a good heart sis.

But men are talking (to the boys). STFU and go make us a sandwich.

No need to go there with Camille, man. If it's mango or his ilk, I can understand shitting on him because he deserves it and does it to us, but Camille is respectful for the most part.

None of them can articulate why African ancestry is irrelevant. Why being a product of slave trade to such a specific region is more important than thousands of years of said ancestry. Why an individual's value to the collective that calls itself ADOS is dependent principally upon being a component of European commerce.

No one said African ancestry is irrelevant. And when we try to have that discussion, i.e. what were the circumstances behind millions of Africans being sold to Europeans as slaves, which Africans financially profited from that slave trade and whether their descendants still do, you get major pushback. See the other thread I started about this: https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/w...olin-worthy-but-a-must-read-for-ados.1067679/

And, as far as being a justice claim, the ADOS movement is driven by achieving compensation and financially righting the wrong of that slavery our ancestors endured in the U.S. and that we still struggle from. It only makes sense to frame our struggle in the context of slavery.

 

[Drayonis]

yall surprised?

These cats get so emotional they devolve into the weakest version of themselves.

 

[Joe Money]

Y'all kill me talking about what black folks survived before. SOME black folks survived, a lot didn't, the survivors suffered and we are still dealing with the fallout and effects on our community. I don't believe in suffering for the sake of suffering or for the sake of noble victimhood. There is no virtue in this. You're welcome to do so, but count me out.

Lazy, black Americans is WS propaganda the world gets exposed to before they ever meet an actual black American. Personal relationships eradicate these falsehoods.

Regardless, I see 2016 taught you nothing. There is no point in our continuing to have these discussions. I'm not trying to collapse the system, and I don't want to burn everything to hell simply because y'all want black only benefits y'all can't even verbalize and think you can only get through dems y'all refuse to elect. It's madness.

Camille, as I have demonstrated many times, and which you constantly ignore, BLACK PEOPLE SUFFER UNDER DEMOCRATIC RULE JUST AS MUCH AS WE DO UNDER REPUBLICAN RULE!!!

Please tell me what black people are specifically struggling under from January 20th, 2017 until now under Trump that we were not dealing with from January 20th, 2009 through January 20th, 2017 under Obama?

And benefits we can't verbalize? I recall posting a slew of info for you in another thread that you either ignored or refused to respond to.
And Dems we refuse to elect? We're the only reason they're in office, because the majority of whites damn sure aren't voting for them. All we're saying is that they need to act on our behalf if they want our votes.

But you're right. No point in having these discussions any further. Either you get it or you don't. But I will tell you now that you and your ilk will be in for a rude awakening this November if you continue to ignore, dismiss, or ridicule ADOS.

 

[mangobob79]

Y'all kill me talking about what black folks survived before. SOME black folks survived, a lot didn't, the survivors suffered and we are still dealing with the fallout and effects on our community. I don't believe in suffering for the sake of suffering or for the sake of noble victimhood. There is no virtue in this. You're welcome to do so, but count me out.

Lazy, black Americans is WS propaganda the world gets exposed to before they ever meet an actual black American. Personal relationships eradicate these falsehoods.

Regardless, I see 2016 taught you nothing. There is no point in our continuing to have these discussions. I'm not trying to collapse the system, and I don't want to burn everything to hell simply because y'all want black only benefits y'all can't even verbalize and think you can only get through dems y'all refuse to elect. It's madness.

yeah becos this is talk from folks who dont have love for the people they claim to advocate for #ADOSISAFRONT #FBAISAHUSTLE #ADOSISMAGA


THIS IS WHAT #ADOS #FBA WANTS!!
they want folks healthcare be further decimated by killing obamacare w/o a replacement ! so that big mama's "sugar medicine" costs 5x more,

they want more banks & auto company to remove Obama era protections and deny Blackfolks loans without being held accountable,

they want more rightwing judge appointment (a record under Trump) that will take 30 years to undo the damage they have already set in motion !

that want the EPA further destroyed by hiring a neega who sued them to head the agency so that the water & food supply be compromised further by deregulations ,

they want Dr Carson (an #ADOS )to further kick #ADOS folks outta their housing to make way for "urban economic zones" that only favor cacs ,

and so much more just to make a crazy juvenile point !!
these are the things #PROSECUTORMOORE and his beard wants . SOMEBODY PROVE ME WRONG !!

#ADOSISAFRONT #FBAISAHUSTLE #ADOSISRIGHTWINGPSYOP #FBAISTRASH #ADOSISTRASH #ADOSISMAGA

THESE PEOPLE DONT LOVE BLACK DESCENDANTS OF AMERICA'S ENSLAVED AFRICANS!!

 

[mangobob79]

Nobody cares of you don't vote. You weren't doing it anyway correct? People are just pointing out that your logic doesn't equate to reparations. Sit out every election from now until you're buried, it doesn't = reparations.

Do you playa.

SIMPLE ENUFF ?

 

[Joe Money]

yeah becos this is talk from folks who dont have love for the people they claim to advocate for #ADOSISAFRONT #FBAISAHUSTLE #ADOSISMAGA


THIS IS WHAT #ADOS #FBA WANTS!!
they want folks healthcare be further decimated by killing obamacare w/o a replacement ! so that big mama's "sugar medicine" costs 5x more,

they want more banks & auto company to remove Obama era protections and deny Blackfolks loans without being held accountable,

they want more rightwing judge appointment (a record under Trump) that will take 30 years to undo the damage they have already set in motion !

that want the EPA further destroyed by hiring a neega who sued them to head the agency so that the water & food supply be compromised further by deregulations ,

they want Dr Carson (an #ADOS )to further kick #ADOS folks outta their housing to make way for "urban economic zones" that only favor cacs ,

and so much more just to make a crazy juvenile point !!
these are the things #PROSECUTORMOORE and his beard wants . SOMEBODY PROVE ME WRONG !!

#ADOSISAFRONT #FBAISAHUSTLE #ADOSISRIGHTWINGPSYOP #FBAISTRASH #ADOSISTRASH #ADOSISMAGA

THESE PEOPLE DONT LOVE BLACK DESCENDANTS OF AMERICA'S ENSLAVED AFRICAN!!
[/QUOTE]

Addressing racial wealth inequality will require a major redistributive effort or another major public policy intervention to build black American wealth. This could take the form of a direct race-specific initiative like a dramatic reparations program tied to compensation for the legacies of slavery and Jim Crow, and/or an initiative that addresses the perniciousness of wealth inequality for the entire American population, which could disproportionately benefit black Americans due to their exceptionally low levels of wealth. Indeed, the two strategies -- reparations for America’s record of racial injustice or the provision of the equivalent of a substantial trust fund for every wealth poor American— need not be mutually exclusive.

 

[God Dammit]

Nobody cares of you don't vote. You weren't doing it anyway correct? People are just pointing out that your logic doesn't equate to reparations. Sit out every election from now until you're buried, it doesn't = reparations.

Do you playa.

​

Why would I vote if no one’s offering what I want?!

​

 

[mangobob79]

TALIB KWELI'S FACEBOOK PAGE NOV2019



In case you still support MAGA hat wearing Yvette Carnell’s ADOS hate cult, check out this before and after screenshot.
These pics are both from the official ADOS website.

In the first one, ADOS fully supports the pro reparations bill HR40.
In the second one, ADOS changes their position and says that HR40 must be re-written to include the phrase ADOS.

Why the switch? Why is this important? Yvette Carnell owns the trademark for the term ADOS.
If that phrase is included in HR40 her t-shirt sales go thru the roof.

But that’s not even the main reason ADOS stopped supporting HR40 as is.
The REAL reason is because every democrat candidate running (except Joe Biden) is a co-sponsor Of The HR40 Bill as is.
Once that occurred, ADOS founders Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore started bashing HR40 as “only a study” and “a dodge.”
Why would they bash a bill they celebrated on their own website you might ask. Because Carnell works with PFIR, a pro Trump white nationalist anti immigrant group. She’s a board member. She couldn’t be caught agreeing with democrats on policy because it makes her MAGA bosses look bad.
So after I pointed this out, they quietly changed the language on the website.
They also removed Ronald Reagan’s name from their site after I called them out for celebrating Reagan.
Their site STILL celebrates Trump. Go see for yourself. #ADOSisMAGA this is not a drill folks.

 

[Joe Money]

Black Agenda
As a specific group with a specific justice claim, the #ADOS movement demands a specific agenda with policy prescriptions that address the losses stemming from the institution of slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, convict leasing, mass incarceration and immigration.

We demand a New Deal for Black America which includes, but is not limited to:

• We need set asides for American descendants of slavery, not “minorities”, a throw-away category which includes all groups except white men. That categorization has allowed Democrats to use programs like affirmative actions as “giveaways” to all groups in exchange for votes. The bribery must end. That begins with a new designation on the Census with ADOS and another for Black immigrants. Black immigrants should be barred from accessing affirmative action and other set asides intended for ADOS, as should Asians, Latinos, white women, and other “minority” groups. In addition, ADOS hiring and employment data must be demanded for all businesses receiving tax credits, incentives, and governmental support. As well as all governmental agencies national, state and local. It is our belief that this will show that there are minimal if any ADOS professionals in fields including but not limited to engineering, medical, legal and tech.
  
  
• Once affirmative action is streamlined as a government program only and specifically for ADOS, the program should be fully reinstituted.
  
• The Supreme Court decided wrongly when it gutted the Voting Rights Act. As the Atlanta Journal Constitution article “It’s Time to Solve the Mystery of the 100,000 Mystery Votes” indicates, the protections outlined in the Voting Rights Act are essential to protecting the rights of ADOS in America. Reinstituting the protections of The Voting Rights Act is a key part of our agenda.
  
  
• Black businesses only received 1.7% of the $23.09 billion in total SBA loans under President Obama’s SBA (Small Business Administration), after having previously received 8.2% under President George W. Bush. Succeeding as an entrepreneur requires capital, so our agenda demands that 15% of SBA loans be distributed to ADOS businesses.
  
  
• We seek a multi-billion dollar infrastructure plan targeted to ADOS communities, including, but not limited to, the Black Belt, Flint, Michigan. A Reuters examination published in 2016 found 3,000 cities with poisoning rates higher than Flint.
  
  
• Residents of majority ADOS areas that have been poisoned under the federal, local and state government’s watch, such as not only Flint, Michigan, but Denmark, South Carolina, and others, must be financially compensated for the benign neglect of the Environmental Protection Agency and the government in general. The Justice Department must also institute protections which exact heavy fines and federal criminal prosecution for future offenders.
• 
  
• Mass incarceration has wreaked havoc on Black American families. By some accounts there are literally more black males imprisoned than all women are incarcerated on the planet. To give context there are 20 million black males, and they largely descend from slavery. While there are 4 billion women globally, both groups producing the same number of incarcerated. The reinvention of slavery through use of the 13th Amendment is chronicled by Douglas Blackmon in his PBS documentary “Slavery by Another Name”, it is our position this must be corrected. We demand a immediate assessment of the numbers of the #ADOS prison populations at the state & federal level. We also demand that there be review if punishment (bail amounts, sentence lengths, amount of time served before parole) is being levied at unfairly high levels on #ADOS based on gender and race for similar crimes to other groups. We demand that there be real prison reform in the form of investment into counseling, job training, and rehabilitation for our incarcerated.
  
• In the early eighties America committed to “strengthen the capacity of historically Black colleges and universities to provide quality education” in Executive Order 12320. President Obama undermined that commitment with changes to the PLUS Loan requirements. We call for legislation to triple the current federal allotment to HBCUs. Schools like Georgetown, built by slaves, have an endowment of over a billion dollars. This is a transfer of wealth from ADOS to whites. Our agenda demands that the federal government fully endow our remaining HBCUs in a dollar amount that meets the budgetary needs of each institution. In addition, ADOS students who attend HBCUs should receive a discount in the form of a 75 percent tax credit, given that our inability to pay the rising cost of education is directly tied to the racial wealth gap coming from slavery. ADOS who choose schools outside of the HBCU network should receive a 50 percent government funded credit.
  
  
• Findings published in USA Today concluded that top universities graduate ADOS in tech, but those graduates can’t find jobs in Silicon Valley. Only 2% of technology workers at seven Silicon Valley companies are Black, according to the report,and many of those are Black immigrants, not ADOS. And according to a study by Rutgers Professor Hal Salzman, American colleges graduate more tech workers than tech companies need, hence the H1-B program reduces opportunities for ADOS searching for careers in technology. The government must strictly limit the number of H1-B Visa workers tech companies that flow in each year.
  
  
• Audit the banks to see if there are patterns of racial discrimination in lending, and require these banks to extend loans to ADOS businesses. These banks received bailout from taxpayers and owe a debt to all taxpayers, regardless of race. In addition, banks such as Wells Fargo used predatory schemes historically, not just during the Great Recession, to eviscerate Black Wealth. Lending to Black businesses and institutions would be a beginning for banks to redress the harm they’ve caused to the ADOS community.
  
• Mandate that the government’s advertising budget include Black media. There is no ADOS community without our own media. Incentivize through legislative action that all major companies spend 10% of their advertising budget with ADOS media in exchange for tax credits. In addition, mandate that 10% of government advertising for governmental agencies, armed forces and other ancillary programs go to majority ADOS owned media companies.
  
  
• ADOS college debt should be forgiven in the same way losses were forgiven for the banks on Wall Street. Those executives oversaw the evaporation of billions in global wealth. ADOS graduates bought into the idea that the key to success in life was an education, and there was a place for us in America, only to find after graduation that we were locked out. We can’t afford to bear the burden of a lie.
  
• A health care credit to pay for medical coverage for all ADOS. This would cover surgery, pharmaceutical, and counseling needs. As an example we would like to see a Lineage Therapy, whereby #ADOS leadership, in co-operation with licensed therapists and psychiatrists, develop a therapy curriculum to help members of the ADOS understand and manage their ancestral traumas. This therapy should come at no cost to the ADOS community.
  
  
• America has never atoned for its original sin of slavery in the form of reparations. It is our position that H.R. 40 be fully rewritten to include reference to ADOS as the recipient group, cash payments, and additional supportive measures implemented. We need to gather the data on the level of wealth that was lost as a direct result of slavery, and the era of Jim Crow that followed. The paper “The Economics of Reparations” assessed the value today as:

Professor Sandy Darity Jr.—a leading economist and premiere scholar in the area of American reparations— and Dania Frank have illustrated using the work of Vedder, Gallaway and Klingaman, the gains in wealth to white southerners from ownership of blacks in 1859 was $3.2 million. In today’s dollars, the value of that debt is estimated to be somewhere between $5 to $10 trillion dollars, depending upon the interest rate used for compounding purposes.

#ADOS demands that there be a real review of direct payouts needed to be made to eligible recipients from gathered data, and progress be made toward making #ADOS families whole.

Without these measures being instituted, ADOS are locked out of the country our ancestors built during chattel slavery. Without reforms through transformative government, we will be left to continue living a third world life in a first world country.

 

[mangobob79]

Looking like us doesn't mean they ARE us. Or we are them. And many of them make that very clear. You are clinging to a "we-all-black" paradigm that is no longer applicable to Black America, if it ever was in the first place. And this is a rift that long pre-dates #ADOS. A lot more of us are just now more comfortable coming out and talking about it.

Even if you do reject what Tone and Yvette have to say, I would hope you would accept what these Emory students say:




Or what this professor has to say:





And yes, there are certain things black folk should be against, due to our history, and one of them is actively assisting in importing more people who will treat us with contempt and ally with the dominant power structure to shit on us.

This mistreatment of people you are talking about is being done by white officials voted into power by a majority of the white electorate. That isn't on us.



No need to go there with Camille, man. If it's mango or his ilk, I can understand shitting on him because he deserves it and does it to us, but Camille is respectful for the most part.



No one said African ancestry is irrelevant. And when we try to have that discussion, i.e. what were the circumstances behind millions of Africans being sold to Europeans as slaves, which Africans financially profited from that slave trade and whether their descendants still do, you get major pushback. See the other thread I started about this: https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/w...olin-worthy-but-a-must-read-for-ados.1067679/

And, as far as being a justice claim, the ADOS movement is driven by achieving compensation and financially righting the wrong of that slavery our ancestors endured in the U.S. and that we still struggle from. It only makes sense to frame our struggle in the context of slavery.

JUST AS I CAN FIND ARTICLES AND RANDOM VIDEOS OF #ADOS BASHING AFRIKANS AND IMMIGRANTS & CALLING THEM DEROGATORY NAMES ,AND TRYING TO MANUFACTURE SOME GREAT RIFT TO SUPPORT A NARRATIVE ,
AND ALSO TRIBES WHO SOLD SLAVES WERE OFTEN SOLD THEMSELVES , SO U MIGHT BE A DESCENDANT OF TRIBE WHO SOLD MY TRIBE UNTIL UR TRIBE GOT CAPTURED AND GOT SOLD IN SELF DEFENSE !! IT WAS WARFARE !
SO WHAT GIVES ?

U DONT REALLY WANT THAT DISCUSSION, U WANTED AN OUTLET TO VENT UR PREDISPOSITION ABOUT AFRIKANS BECOS IT HELPS UR NARRATIVE ! UVE NEVER BEEN A PART OF ANY PAN-AFRIKAN MOVEMENTS, SO HOW DO U KNOW ?,

SECONDLY ,THE MANUFACTURED NARRATIVE IN UR THREADS WERE MAINLY CONSTRUCTED AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE AN OPERATIVE FLOOR TO SUPPORT UR RIGHTWING AGENDA !

SO IF U HAVENT LIVED ,WORKED AND INTERMINGLED WITH THE DIASPORA OF AFRIKA THEN WHAT DO U BASE UR NARRATIVE ON BESIDES A VIDEO OR 2 OR A COUPLE TWEETS ? OR A HEARSAY OR ONE OR 2 INTERACTIONS?
GET U FUKKIN PASSPORT ALREADY !

GOODNIGHT !! THANKS FOR PLAYING

 

[Drayonis]

Why would I vote if no one’s offering what I want?!

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Did you just miss the part where i said don't vote? No one cares? We are only challenging the notion that what you want won't be achieved that way. You never voted before, so who cares?

Your vote isn't a bargaining chip since it's not in play. You keep projecting the notion that we are begging you to vote and that's not what the discussion is about.

 

[Camille]

yeah becos this is talk from folks who dont have love for the people they claim to advocate for #ADOSISAFRONT #FBAISAHUSTLE #ADOSISMAGA


THIS IS WHAT #ADOS #FBA WANTS!!
they want folks healthcare be further decimated by killing obamacare w/o a replacement ! so that big mama's "sugar medicine" costs 5x more,

they want more banks & auto company to remove Obama era protections and deny Blackfolks loans without being held accountable,

they want more rightwing judge appointment (a record under Trump) that will take 30 years to undo the damage they have already set in motion !

that want the EPA further destroyed by hiring a neega who sued them to head the agency so that the water & food supply be compromised further by deregulations ,

they want Dr Carson (an #ADOS )to further kick #ADOS folks outta their housing to make way for "urban economic zones" that only favor cacs ,

and so much more just to make a crazy juvenile point !!
these are the things #PROSECUTORMOORE and his beard wants . SOMEBODY PROVE ME WRONG !!

#ADOSISAFRONT #FBAISAHUSTLE #ADOSISRIGHTWINGPSYOP #FBAISTRASH #ADOSISTRASH #ADOSISMAGA

THESE PEOPLE DONT LOVE BLACK DESCENDANTS OF AMERICA'S ENSLAVED AFRICAN!!

Your Obamacare mention just reminded me of what I was thinking earlier. It struck me that the ADOS "don't vote for dems" messaging is just like the GOP and Obamacare. They want to repeal and replace dems, but don't have a replacement plan ready. There is no backup. They keep telling us how things are going to be sooooo much better than what we currently have, but after sitting out and letting the dems lose power, there is no plan to move forward and make gains.

They've already said they won't lobby the GOP. They won't form a superpac to target existing candidates or run their own. They won't say how black folks maintain influence if we withdraw and create a power vacuum, and won't acknowledge that if we do this, their main fear - black folks being replaced by others - happens faster when others move in to fill the void. A couple have said they want to collapse the system, and black folks will come out on top, but this is Steve Bannon's plan also, and he thinks it's good for white nationalists.

Like the GOP, folks who are dissatisfied with dems have had years to come up with a plan, but other than vague promises and and mudslinging, there is no replacement.

I don't disagree with demanding a return on our vote, or even the problems that have been raised about issues in dem party. Gene made a post earlier about policing and local dems. Part of the issue that police unions have so much power. The other part is that GOP propaganda and WS propaganda has equated black with being criminal. For many criminal is code word for black folks. High crime areas is code for black areas. Even some black folks think this way. So when we protest the treatment of black folks by the justice system, it gets twisted into saying that we are pro criminal, anti police, and to avoid being labeled as soft on crime, a whole lot of fuckery gets a pass.

The crime bill that Hillary got so much hell over was voted for by dems and black Congress critters. There was a crime problem and either because they thought it would work, or didn't want to seem soft on crime, they went along with it.


The GOP and WS has run a game on dems and black folks that we fall for every time. They have a excellent propaganda machine. If we have an issue with immigration, we're for open borders, want America to be overrun by immigrants, and are against working Americans. If we have a problem with Bush's war in Iraq, we are anti American, not patriotic, soft on national security. If we criticize policing, we are soft on crime. If we stand by Al Franken, even with the pussy grabber in chief holding office, we are anti woman and pro sexual assault. If we want people to have a safety net, we want to keep (black) people on the public teat for votes. If we want to compensate black farmers, we're giving reparations to black folks. It's come to the point that some have framed voting dem as demonic and GOP as the party of God and equating the party one supports to whether or not they are saved. To avoid the appearance of evil we cave almost every time. We even adopt their talking points, phrases and framing when discussing issues. We need to get out in front of and control the narrative instead of letting WS do it.

Anyway, I want to see the replacement plan first.

 

[Drayonis]

The crime bill that Hillary got so much hell over was voted for by dems and black Congress critters. There was a crime problem and either because they thought it would work, or didn't want to seem soft on crime, they went along with it.

Actually black folks willingly campaigned for that crime bill. People and the black youth forget how decimated by crime and murder black neighborhoods were back then. People, especially black folks wanted tougher crime on people that were actively destroying our lives. Now it's revisionist history and black folks want to seperate their role from it. Nobody was duped, people were desperate.

 

[mangobob79]

Your Obamacare mention just reminded me of what I was thinking earlier. It struck me that the ADOS "don't vote for dems" messaging is just like the GOP and Obamacare. They want to repeal and replace dems, but don't have a replacement plan ready. There is no backup. They keep telling us how things are going to be sooooo much better than what we currently have, but after sitting out and letting the dems lose power, there is no plan to move forward and make gains.

They've already said they won't lobby the GOP. They won't form a superpac to target existing candidates or run their own. They won't say how black folks maintain influence if we withdraw and create a power vacuum, and won't acknowledge that if we do this, their main fear - black folks being replaced by others - happens faster when others move in to fill the void. A couple have said they want to collapse the system, and black folks will come out on top, but this is Steve Bannon's plan also, and he thinks it's good for white nationalists.

Like the GOP, folks who are dissatisfied with dems have had years to come up with a plan, but other than vague promises and and mudslinging, there is no replacement.

I don't disagree with demanding a return on our vote, or even the problems that have been raised about issues in dem party. Gene made a post earlier about policing and local dems. Part of the issue that police unions have so much power. The other part is that GOP propaganda and WS propaganda has equated black with being criminal. For many criminal is code word for black folks. High crime areas is code for black areas. Even some black folks think this way. So when we protest the treatment of black folks by the justice system, it gets twisted into saying that we are pro criminal, anti police, and to avoid being labeled as soft on crime, a whole lot of fuckery gets a pass.

The crime bill that Hillary got so much hell over was voted for by dems and black Congress critters. There was a crime problem and either because they thought it would work, or didn't want to seem soft on crime, they went along with it.


The GOP and WS has run a game on dems and black folks that we fall for every time. They have a excellent propaganda machine. If we have an issue with immigration, we're for open borders, want America to be overrun by immigrants, and are against working Americans. If we have a problem with Bush's war in Iraq, we are anti American, not patriotic, soft on national security. If we criticize policing, we are soft on crime. If we stand by Al Franken, even with the pussy grabber in chief holding office, we are anti woman and pro sexual assault. If we want people to have a safety net, we want to keep (black) people on the public teat for votes. If we want to compensate black farmers, we're giving reparations to black folks. It's come to the point that some have framed voting dem as demonic and GOP as the party of God and equating the party one supports to whether or not they are saved. To avoid the appearance of evil we cave almost every time. We even adopt their talking points, phrases and framing when discussing issues. We need to get out in front of and control the narrative instead of letting WS do it.

Anyway, I want to see the replacement plan first.

THANKS FOR A CONCISE POST ONCE AGAIN!
U HAVE SUCK A KNACK FOR WORDS & FRAMING WHATS ON MY MIND BETTER THAN MY RAMBLING SELF,
ITS BECOS I HAVE SO MUCH RUNNING THRU MY HEAD ABOUT THESE ISSUES ! I SO DESIRE TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE FREE
I THINK AT THIS POINT , WE JUST GONNA COMPILE UR POSTS AND STICKY THEM IN ONE MEGAPOST FOR REFERENCE WHEN FOLKS START TALKING CRAZY ON THESE BGOL STREETS ! AND GET IT OVER WITH!

^^^^this guy plays for the bucks too , thankfully he aint no afrikan immigrant giving his shoes to kids

 

[mangobob79]

Actually black folks willingly campaigned for that crime bill. People and the black youth forget how decimated by crime and murder black neighborhoods were back then. People, especially black folks wanted tougher crime on people that were actively destroying our lives. Now it's revisionist history and black folks want to seperate their role from it. Nobody was duped, people were desperate.

i been saying this for the longest ! even black pastors supported it , its so easy to pick these liers apart

 

[Drayonis]

i been saying this for the longest ! even black pastors supported it , its so easy to pick these liers apart

Yup...they crying about the crime bill but forget "Pookie" on the block who killed, raped, got arrested and got back out and killed the witnesses. People were begging for tougher laws back then. We already know white folks wanted those laws to destroy black lives, but black folks wanted those laws to protect black lives. Still had the same outcome.

 

[Camille]

THANKS FOR A CONCISE POST ONCE AGAIN!
U HAVE SUCK A KNACK FOR WORDS & FRAMING WHATS ON MY MIND BETTER THAN MY RAMBLING SELF,
ITS BECOS I HAVE SO MUCH RUNNING THRU MY HEAD ABOUT THESE ISSUES ! I SO DESIRE TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE FREE
I THINK AT THIS POINT , WE JUST GONNA COMPILE UR POSTS AND STICKY THEM IN ONE MEGAPOST FOR REFERENCE WHEN FOLKS START TALKING CRAZY ON THESE BGOL STREETS ! AND GET IT OVER WITH!

^^^^this guy plays for the bucks too , thankfully he aint no afrikan immigrant giving his shoes to kids

I love you like a play cuzzin but me and these ALL CAPS are NOT going to get along.

 

[mangobob79]

I love you like a play cuzzin but me and these ALL CAPS are NOT going to get along.

its a bad habit !!

 

[God Dammit]

Did you just miss the part where i said don't vote? No one cares? We are only challenging the notion that what you want won't be achieved that way. You never voted before, so who cares?

Your vote isn't a bargaining chip since it's not in play. You keep projecting the notion that we are begging you to vote and that's not what the discussion is about.

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I blindly voted Gore, when I was 18
Blindly Voted for John Kerry
Blindly Voted for Obama, both times
Not voting in 2016 was the first time I didn’t vote.
And I didn’t vote because I was in Korea and didn’t get my absentee ballot in in time.
So miss me with all of that.
This year will be the first time I don’t vote as a choice.
Got anything else?
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