That's your logic?
Nigga please.
I asked you a question..why are they working there if the wages are not able to sustain them?
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Why are you so against fast food workers making $15 a hour?
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I asked you a question..why are they working there if the wages are not able to sustain them?
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maybe where you're @
Doing some research NYC has a high ass cost of a living. That cities minimum wage should be raised to fit the city.
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this is all i was ever sayingNYC, L.A. and Chicago
Chicago's living expenses are not that bad depending on what side of town but NYC and LA is bonkers. These people are working food slave wages...I still believe that fast food is not a career and should be used as a stepping stone or a job for teenagers but yeah they need to up that wage out there.
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Exactly.
Meanwhile, Illinois' minimum wage is a full dollar higher than NY's @ $8.25/hr!
That's basically what I'm reading.
Not to long ago there were plenty of jobs that you could get straight out if high schooland make enough to provide for your family.
Look what happened to the US economy and the US employment rate when all of those jobs went away.
No, the college POV is just another angle.
The problem comes in because FF restaurants drastically raising their wages would create artificial increased wage bubbles around each store that does so, if the restaurant pays $15/hr then the stores surrounding them would have to match it to stay competitive, and much more often than not those stores ARE NOT Walmart & Target, but your Mom's friend's dress store, small businesses CANNOT survive in those types of bubbles, and while the McDonald's Corporation as a whole makes money hand over fist, the franchises themselves have much closer margins, profits have actually gone down as people have become much more health conscious.
As we've seen multiple times in the past, bubbles ALWAYS BURST!
People being more health conscious is one of the main reasons why KFC is having problems right now, they've already shut down several hundred stores across the country, Mickey D's ain't hurting, but they ain't making as much money as people think!
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professor153
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The people who work at fast food spots are usually kids or loser adults. No fucking way they should make 15 bucks per hour to flip a burger. If thats the case then you might as well raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks per hour. Fast food is a job that requires zero skills. Why the fuck are we paying them double the minimum wage? Most of them have done nothing in their miserable lives to deserve anything more than minimum wage... Most people working there have no hs diploma, no ged, criminal records, ex drug users, and little kids.
Paying them double would mean the prices of the food would have to go up. All of this fuss because of some loser ass pieces of shit have a false sense of entitlement.
Paying them double would mean the prices of the food would have to go up. All of this fuss because of some loser ass pieces of shit have a false sense of entitlement.
You got any legit article on the "hundreds of kfcs" that closed across the country ?
Mcdonalds stock is 10 percent higher this year august compared to last year august... 89 compared to 99 right now
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=MCD+Interactive#symbol=mcd;range=20120801,20130801;compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;
People are more health conscious ?
says obesity rate this year is going to surpass the rate of last yearThe U.S. obesity rate is so far on track to be higher than last year's, according to a new Gallup report.
Right now, the rate in the United States is 27.1 percent; last year, it was 26.2 percent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/obesity-rate-us-_n_3480151.html
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got one in business management. In corporate few black men get the opportunity to make big money. what business are u in?
professor153
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God damnit, stop being a sap! Fast food isn't a career type of job to live and raise a fucking family. It's a job for kids, or maybe good for a 2nd fucking job. You people here are so used to being losers in life that you want people who mop shit up to make 100k per year, mc donalds to make 100k per year, etc.,...
You got any legit article on the "hundreds of kfcs" that closed across the country ?
People are more health conscious ?
The U.S. obesity rate is so far on track to be higher than last year's, according to a new Gallup report.
Right now, the rate in the United States is 27.1 percent; last year, it was 26.2 percent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/21/obesity-rate-us-_n_3480151.html
About 4 years ago I wanted to pick up some KFC for the start of the football season, so I drove to the nearest KFC (in Valley Stream, LI) and while everything looked normal from the outside, it was closed, I then proceeded to the next closest one next to Green Acres Mall on Sunrise Highway and it was closed too, I thought that the ENTIRE franchise had shut down, but they had only closed a few stores @ that point, when it was actually happening I read an article that pointed to several reasons as to why stores were closing, the first was stores being too close together, the second was people becoming more health conscious and KFC not staying abreast of new trends, but this is what I found for now.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505123_162-43940879/kfc-finally-tackles-its-big-problem-too-many-stores/
And just because people are becoming more health conscious (exercising more, counting calories), doesn't mean that they aren't still getting fat, lol!!!
While McDonald's profits did rise, sales as a whole went down, the industry as a whole has remained flat, but I'm not concerned about McDonald's sales, or even the cost of their food if they raise wages, my concern is for the peripheral businesses surrounding these establishments, for ANY business you have to pay the prevailing wage of the area that you're situated in, it is NOT established by the corporation!
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/b...rises-but-year-over-year-sales-fall.html?_r=0
Put it this way, waayyy back when I was a store manager @ Roy Rogers on Long Island when the minimum wage was $3.35/hr we started people $3.75/hr in West Hempstead, $4/hr in Williston Park, $4.75/hr in Greenvale (near Roslyn), and $5/hr @ Roosevelt Field, NONE of the NYC stores started people above $3.55/hr, so understand that a store's wages are done on a case by case basis, according to the prevailing wage of the area/availability of workers.
And keep in mind that assistant managers don't actually make much more than the hourly employees, their checks look bigger simply because overtime is mandatory, assistant managers work a minimum of 50 hour weeks, more in busier locations.
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Flawless post.
The opposing argument is so flawed and full of lies and misinformation, you would have to start an entirely new thread to address them all.
But just one
This might be true somewhere but as my mother's neighbor informed me, at his location at the very least, you have to be 18 to work at McDonald's.
The store manager has discretion in this area, legally speaking you have to be 16 or older because of the equipment in use HOWEVER since 16 year olds are minors they have certain restrictions put in place by the state such as not working more than 5 hours w/o a break, not working past a certain time on school nights (I can't remember if it's 9, 10, or 11 right now), NEVER working past midnight, and not working more than 35 hours/wk during the school year, if ANY of these rules are broken they result in "minor infractions" and stores could be fined if their respective Dept. of Labor (for whatever state) does an inspection, so if it can be helped managers try to avoid minors.
At Roy Rogers we also used to have a meat slicer which minors were NOT allowed to operate, but I highly doubt in today's microwave society if Mickey D's has any remaining equipment that minors are not allowed to use.
heres a question for those who think people in entry level service jobs shouldnt make enough to live above or at the poverty level...
do you think the min wage is even necessary then? why not just let corporates pay people at their own discretion? how do you think that will go?
do you think the min wage is even necessary then? why not just let corporates pay people at their own discretion? how do you think that will go?
Even now the restaurant lobby is making sure that workers in North Carolina and many other states stay @ their paltry $2.13/hr for tipped workers, so we can already see what the questions you're asking would do, NY's minimum wage needs to be raised to @ least $8.50-$9/hr, Washington State has a minimum wage of $9.19/hr.
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professor153
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You people are fucking retarded. If we are going to pay skilless workers 15 bucks per hour that means people with jobs that require minimal skills will be demanding 25 per hour, etc, etc, etc... All this means that we can expect prices to rise everywhere, inflation, etc.
It's never a good thing when idiots discuss matters concerning finance. You people should just stick to Nicky Minaj debates and shit.
so...
corporate profits are at an all time high...and rising.
and
cost of living is at an all time high... and rising.
but minimum wage should remain flat?
corporate profits are at an all time high...and rising.
and
cost of living is at an all time high... and rising.
but minimum wage should remain flat?
professor153
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I know some city jobs that start you out at 15 per hour and you're telling me a fucking burger flipper should get the same wage? If the minimum wage goes to 15 per hour, all people will demand a raise. All this will do is cause inflation. Nothing will be gained. I'll take this to a message board where the men are actual men, not some pussy niggas raised by a single mother and whose entire way of thinking is on some emotional shit rather than logic.so...
corporate profits are at an all time high...and rising.
and
cost of living is at an all time high... and rising.
but minimum wage should remain flat?
no ur being emotional. instead of looking at the stats ur upset that the burger flipper is gonna make as much as the person w/ the city job. moblack is mad that the burger flipper is gonna make as much as what he made when he came out of community college.
nobody gives a fuck about any of that.
the point is... that city job should pay more than $15/hr. everything should be shifted up. the salaries in the usa are not keeping up with inflation and definitely not keeping pace with corporate profits.
yall are so stuck on how u feel bout fast food workers making what u made in ur 1st lil office jobs that u dont see we are all being hustled. look at that chart again.
professor153
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Perhaps civil servants and some professionals are being hustled, but not fast food workers. Fast food is a skilleess job. You can't expect to be rewarded to do a job that requires no skills.
You should be arguing that civil servants should make more money since they are providing real services to the people. A lot of them have extensive training and they have to live their lives differently than a fucking mcdonalds worker. Civil servants cant' smoke weed, etc... They should get the pay hike, not some bumbling mcdonalds worker.
if they make the minimum wage 15 dollars per hour are you going to demand a raise from your boss?
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Funny how y'all quick to say what a McDonald's employer should pay their own employees but no one is telling David stern lebron is making too much. Only the poor can make too much.
everybody. aside from a few industries, no job in the lower salary range has kept up with inflation. not fast food, not ur prized "city jobs", not blue collar work...
Fuzzy_McNut
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You people are fucking retarded. If we are going to pay skilless workers 15 bucks per hour that means people with jobs that require minimal skills will be demanding 25 per hour, etc, etc, etc... All this means that we can expect prices to rise everywhere, inflation, etc.
It's never a good thing when idiots discuss matters concerning finance. You people should just stick to Nicky Minaj debates and shit.
America has allways distributed it money funny. They might demand a raise but don't mean they will get it.
Are you just as offended that souljah boy can make Mullins being skill less
Or a NBA player waved can still get bread for nothing
People only complain when the poor make money but not when the rich Mae too much. That is what occupy wall street is about
nigga....pull back and read that shit you just typed...
kush? purp?...hydro?.. early in the morning..edit:...
edit...again....I get it "sarcasm"...carry on brother
professor153
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Don't quote me until you can write proper english. I'm not wasting time trying to figure out what you are trying to say.
Fuzzy_McNut
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nigga....pull back and read that shit you just typed...
edit:...
I did.
It is readable
Why niggas so mad about this though?
I mean just the thought of it got y'all heated?
I mean just the thought of it got y'all heated?
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