Why are you so against fast food workers making $15 a hour?

[alexw]

Seriously bruh, do you NOT just realize that you proved my point?!?

Where exactly is Kodak @ now?!?

When you artificially inflate wages, companies have to find other ways to increase profits, or they go out of business!

My analogy was simply to point out that NOTHING changed @ the bad restaurant, so if NOTHING changed exactly why should the pay go up?!?

If ANYTHING, fast food restaurant workers actually do MUCH LESS than they did before, the food is essentially cooked already, all they do is place it in microwaves, but I digress, understand that I am NOT advocating for McDonald's, but people not being able to get better paying jobs IS NOT THEIR FAULT, exactly why are you blaming them?!?

And you didn't address the fact that their wages have more than doubled in 20 years, again I ask, what other job can come anywhere close to claiming this?!?

You and hollywood seem to be making broad assumptions for ish that doesn't make sense, skills don't matter, really?!?

So architects don't make more money than FF workers?!?

Doctors?!?

Lawyers?!?

Electricians?!?

Carpenters?!?

Plumbers?!?

Welders?!?

Roofers?!?

How about in construction, does a crane operator not make more than a day laborer?!?

In education, does a teacher not make more than a teacher's aide?!?

As a mechanic, does a mechanic with ASE accreditation in 5 areas not make more than a guy who changes tires?!?

The amount of money you make is directly commensurate with your skill set, only HALF of any job is having the required skill set, the other half is putting in the time to learn and excel @ your chosen vocation.

im wasting my time

i already stated why the fast food situation is different

youre not even saying anything different

you simply saying the same thing in a different way hoping to get a different response

read my other responses to you for the same exact answer

 

[Djmarkxr7]

man im done....youre not making sense

who says it isnt a lifetime occupation?

oh yeah...the head of the corps and yall run with it

and lmaoooo @ the dangerous machinery..you dont need skill for either job

hell one job youre working directly with people!

The people that work there do, THAT'S why fast food restaurants HAVE THE HIGHEST TURNOVER OF ANY OCCUPATION!!!

Stop looking thru the extremely small window of Kodak, try looking thru the much larger windows of GM, Chrysler, Ford, Black & Decker, Skil, Anderson, Ingersoll Rand, etc.!

People die and much more so, get serious injuries in these jobs everyday, but that's not really the point here, STILL the question remains, what skills do fast food workers possess that warrant them getting paid more money?!?

And since you said that you don't need skills, I assume that you can work a 20,000lb. steel press, or a 100ft. crane?!?

 

[gutsdabeast]

You don't like poor people and you just want someone to look down on. You can keep all that business and economic jargon because bottom line is they make billions and should share it with people!


Fam I feel you I was just trolling and saying the stupid shit that these "sympathizers" say. These dudes do not think logically and do not understand how business works. When you state the facts they label you an elitist and say you hate poor people. Bgol is the world of the backward nigga.

You just trolled me. What I ever do to you.

Some of the statements here would be true if life was fair.

 

[J.E.T.S]

Graduating from college with a degree my first job was in a lab making 16 bucks an hour why should someone with little to no education or skills make 15 bucks any hour?

Because they're human too and alot of labor jobs are physically demanding and in undesirable conditions.

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[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

You just trolled me. What I ever do to you.

Some of the statements here would be true if life was fair.

I think life is fair to a certain degree. Fast food workers are unskilled and anyone could do their job so they are paid accordingly.

 

[Djmarkxr7]

you cant lay off workers when your entire m.o is "fast food"

you need the workers to get the food out "fast"

and if the food isnt fast or if its pricey, who the fuck wants a big mac or a whopper?

you can go to a real burger joint and get quality

the workers have a win win situation here

CO-SIGN!
Fast food workers are required to work there so at least give them a livable wage...they owe them!

We'll agree to disagree here, but ya'll BOTH are lost if you think that the companies themselves don't come up with ever increasing ways to increase profit and control wage.

And oh, by the way, since BOTH of you keep pointing out that they need workers, haven't ya'll noticed how the basic store design of McDonald's changed about 10-12 years ago?!?

That was to not only maximize service, but to also CUT EMPLOYEES!!!

The frontlines of each location became smaller (the frontline is where the registers are located, the backline is where the grills USED to be!) which therefore eliminated the need for service workers to work in tandem with the cashiers, you now see managers doing this, and since the large grills have been replaced with microwaves, the amount of people necessary to run the backline was dropped as well, the ONLY people not affected by the redesign of McDonald's locations were the ones who handle the dining rooms!

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

Because they're human too and alot of labor jobs are physically demanding and in undesirable conditions.

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Fast food is not really labor intensive.
Dealing with fucked up people all day is the most stressful thing about that job.

 

[bham_brotha]

You can walk in a McDonalds at 15 and get a job with a work permit with no skills. Fast food is generally a kid's first job and people really think they should legitimately be working $15 an hour. So then, their business dips because they're selling $10 extra value meals and they eventually go out of business and lay off hundreds of thousands of people with no skills other than flipping burgers. Yea, sounds like a great plan. I guess people don't understand that fast food restaurants capitalize on having cheap food for fast. When their food is the same price as a 2 for $20 at Applebee's how many people are still going to eat there? You'd seriously have to be the most naive person in the world to really believe they could double salaries at such a minimal cost.

 

[ANGRY MAN]

Graduating from college with a degree my first job was in a lab making 16 bucks an hour why should someone with little to no education or skills make 15 bucks any hour?

What they fail to mention is Mcdonalds is a teenager job, while still in highschool. These adults making mcdonalds a career out of this. Stop being stagnant!

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

You can walk in a McDonalds at 15 and get a job with a work permit with no skills. Fast food is generally a kid's first job and people really think they should legitimately be working $15 an hour. So then, their business dips because they're selling $10 extra value meals and they eventually go out of business and lay off hundreds of thousands of people with no skills other than flipping burgers. Yea, sounds like a great plan. I guess people don't understand that fast food restaurants capitalize on having cheap food for fast. When their food is the same price as a 2 for $20 at Applebee's how many people are still going to eat there? You'd seriously have to be the most naive person in the world to really believe they could double salaries at such a minimal cost.

Church and waffles!

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

most tier 1 tech support jobs pay around $15-17/hr, and thts with a degree and cert for some places. honestly, i could care less what they plan to pay their employees. i know that if they chose to, it wouldnt be on a national level. some places just can't afford to and dont profit as much as other franchises in their area. but if the average joe working at walmart, getting paid less than $10/hr, hears that he or she can make more at mcdonalds.....im pretty sure they'll quit in a heartbeat to go flip that burger and get paid $5 more. hell,...even some working at a helpdesk might jumpship for the golden arches. that will inturn, leave the high school kids and the dropouts alike struggling to find a job....lol
i remember my days working at Walmart Distribution Center....loading those damn trucks during the summer in that hot ass warehouse,...making just $8. If there would have been a McDonalds or BK offering $15/hr back then......i damn sho would have left and been right there.

That's what I'm saying. It's not that I'm against it but it's not realistic or really logical to have a starter/kids job to get paid as much as a government employed tech engineer lol. If this could bull-head higher wages across the board with every company than I'm definitely all for it. But to have Mickey D's employees paid more than engineers and about as much as many skill position jobs...that's a bit crazy and people wouldn't bother trying to better their skill, trade or education if they can make that much at fast food. How much more would management make then too at fast food?? It's just not logical, like I said, give them around $10 an hour.​

 

[Drayonis]

Because they're human too and alot of labor jobs are physically demanding and in undesirable conditions.

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Since they are human too as you state they need to do whst the guy you responded to did right?

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

That's what I'm saying. It's not that I'm against it but it's not realistic or really logical to have a starter/kids job to get paid as much as a government employed tech engineer lol. If this could bull-head higher wages across the board with every company than I'm definitely all for it. But to have Mickey D's employees paid more than engineers and about as much as many skill position jobs...that's a bit crazy and people wouldn't bother trying to better their skill, trade or education if they can make that much at fast food. How much more would management make then too at fast food?? It's just not logical, like I said, give them around $10 an hour.​

Real talk,
Why go to college...you can ball out working full time at Burger King..fuck learning a trade..you can go work shoulder to shoulder with 15 year olds and cake up.

 

[4North1Side2]

doesn't seem to be any intelligent reasons for being against it...just selfishness..."I don't want them making more than I did" lol

That's basically what I'm reading.

Not to long ago there were plenty of jobs that you could get straight out if high school and make enough to provide for your family.

Look what happened to the US economy and the US employment rate when all of those jobs went away.

 

[Drayonis]

The people that work there do, THAT'S why fast food restaurants HAVE THE HIGHEST TURNOVER OF ANY OCCUPATION!!!

Stop looking thru the extremely small window of Kodak, try looking thru the much larger windows of GM, Chrysler, Ford, Black & Decker, Skil, Anderson, Ingersoll Rand, etc.!

People die and much more so, get serious injuries in these jobs everyday, but that's not really the point here, STILL the question remains, what skills do fast food workers possess that warrant them getting paid more money?!?

And since you said that you don't need skills, I assume that you can work a 20,000lb. steel press, or a 100ft. crane?!?

I work at my shops to keep payroll down. I also demand that my.managers be able to draw in order to create the products we sell. Now they owe people jobs. Somebody lied to you growing up and convinced you that businesses were in business to enrich everybody.

 

[Drayonis]

That's basically what I'm reading.

Not to long ago there were plenty of jobs that you could get straight out if high school and make enough to provide for your family.

Look what happened to the US economy and the US employment rate when all of those jobs went away.

Who's fault is that? People want cheap goods. In order to stay competitive corperations took their business to the cheapest manufactures over seas. Would you start a business, take all the risk, borrow all the.loans, and then pay all of your employees exactly what you make? How are you going to.stay in business that way?

 

[RepostKing]

Graduating from college with a degree my first job was in a lab making 16 bucks an hour why should someone with little to no education or skills make 15 bucks any hour?

This I have a masters and only make $28 an hour, why the fuck would I want someone who choose to flip burgers basically in the same salary bracket. Now if that drives up everyone else's wages because folks feel the same then I dont give a fuck

 

[moblack]

This I have a masters and only make $28 an hour, why the fuck would I want someone who choose to flip burgers basically in the same salary bracket. Now if that drives up everyone else's wages because folks feel the same then I dont give a fuck

Damn with my Associates I'm making 36 a hour. What is your Masters in?

 

[gene cisco]

You can walk in a McDonalds at 15 and get a job with a work permit with no skills. Fast food is generally a kid's first job and people really think they should legitimately be working $15 an hour. So then, their business dips because they're selling $10 extra value meals and they eventually go out of business and lay off hundreds of thousands of people with no skills other than flipping burgers. Yea, sounds like a great plan. I guess people don't understand that fast food restaurants capitalize on having cheap food for fast. When their food is the same price as a 2 for $20 at Applebee's how many people are still going to eat there? You'd seriously have to be the most naive person in the world to really believe they could double salaries at such a minimal cost.

This is it right here. Someone thought of a way to hire kids. Adults working through school also take shit jobs like this. If you ain't working through school and think you should get more than minimum wage for such a job, you already lost.

 

[brickwall92]

That's what I'm saying. It's not that I'm against it but it's not realistic or really logical to have a starter/kids job to get paid as much as a government employed tech engineer lol. If this could bull-head higher wages across the board with every company than I'm definitely all for it. But to have Mickey D's employees paid more than engineers and about as much as many skill position jobs...that's a bit crazy and people wouldn't bother trying to better their skill, trade or education if they can make that much at fast food. How much more would management make then too at fast food?? It's just not logical, like I said, give them around $10 an hour.​

Damn 15 bucks an hour would net you more pay than a government tech worker is what you're saying ?

 

[geist]

man you dudes sound like walking bots for these corps

please explain to me how this fucks up anything?

the more a populace earns the more the economy improves

and these companies are not going to charge more for a big mac...im sorry

there is direct correlation between price and demand

if they drastically raise the price on a big mac, no one would want the shit

yall killing me with this bullshit

They ain't hearing you bruh. Flawless said it. people talking about they got a college degree and they didn't start out making 15/hr so they shouldn't get it either.



Yeah, that's the point. You should've been making more too! I hope this shit snowballs, into big box stores and more.

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

They ain't hearing you bruh. Flawless said it. people talking about they got a college degree and they didn't start out making 15/hr so they shouldn't get it either.



Yeah, that's the point. You should've been making more too! I hope this shit snowballs, into big box stores and more.

How much you making at Burger king bro?

 

[Drayonis]

They ain't hearing you bruh. Flawless said it. people talking about they got a college degree and they didn't start out making 15/hr so they shouldn't get it either.



Yeah, that's the point. You should've been making more too! I hope this shit snowballs, into big box stores and more.

It won't.

 

[geist]

Let me ask y'all something.

How is 15/hr, even livable? Off the top of my head is about 30k a year. If the average fast food worker is about 28, that means they have 1 or 2 kids. How do you manage on 30k a year?

Oh wait, they aren't even making that. So how is a group of people asking for a wage that's still not livable a bad thing? How do y'all that are against this believe what you are saying?

If anything, this opens up a dialogue about Everybody making more money.

 

[The Untouchable GDFOLKS]

Let me ask y'all something.

How is 15/hr, even livable? Off the top of my head is about 30k a year. If the average fast food worker is about 28, that means they have 1 or 2 kids. How do you manage on 30k a year?

Oh wait, they aren't even making that. So how is a group of people asking for a wage that's still not livable a bad thing? How do y'all that are against this believe what you are saying?

If anything, this opens up a dialogue about Everybody making more money.

If the wage is not livable why are they working there?

 

[LSN]

niggas mad cuz they can't use fast food workers as a punchline no more

 

[geist]

If the wage is not livable why are they working there?

That's your logic?

Nigga please.

 

[LSN]

that is NOT fast food establishments' issue/concern...not in the least re: the salary of engineers...if they choose not to increase their pay it'd be out of greed...not upsetting economic order lol

But to have Mickey D's employees paid more than engineers and about as much as many skill position jobs...​

 

[jett42]

MANNNN These dumb ass WAW's are losing they damn mind on sports radio

Host and callers bitching about raising minimum wage talkin bout how people need to work harder and that mcds is only a starting point. But this same CAC said he made min wage for 5 yrs doing landscaping?!?

Are you in the metro Detroit area listening to 97.1, that's exactly what the host and callers are saying on that show

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

Damn 15 bucks an hour would net you more pay than a government tech worker is what you're saying ?

I used to review & proof read surveys and them dudes were talking about getting anywhere from $9 - $15 an hour. I'm assuming (hoping) the guys at $9 were actually ITs or sumin, but I know a few of the engineers mentioned getting about getting about $15.
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[LSN]

I used to review & proof read surveys and them dudes were talking about getting anywhere from $9 - $15 an hour. I'm assuming (hoping) the guys at $9 were actually ITs or sumin, but I know a few of the engineers mentioned getting about getting about $15.
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not fast foods fault/problem/issue

 

[D-TOWN REP]

You can walk in a McDonalds at 15 and get a job with a work permit with no skills. Fast food is generally a kid's first job and people really think they should legitimately be working $15 an hour. So then, their business dips because they're selling $10 extra value meals and they eventually go out of business and lay off hundreds of thousands of people with no skills other than flipping burgers. Yea, sounds like a great plan. I guess people don't understand that fast food restaurants capitalize on having cheap food for fast. When their food is the same price as a 2 for $20 at Applebee's how many people are still going to eat there? You'd seriously have to be the most naive person in the world to really believe they could double salaries at such a minimal cost.

Doubling it is silly

Just bump it to $10

Still not shit but it's better

In&Out Burger out here pays $10

If I made that in high school I would think I was balling

I thought I was doing something making $7.50

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

not fast foods fault/problem/issue

I know...one of the many reasons why they AREN'T about to pay that much for a kids job. At best fast food is just a rebound job for adults. Walmart ain't doing it, Target ain't doing it, none of these big name multi-billion dollar jobs are about to pay stockers and cashiers as much as the MIGHT pay their managers or as much other more professional companies pay for skill positions.​

 

[LSN]

I know...one of the many reasons why they AREN'T about to pay that much for a kids job. At best fast food is just a rebound job for adults. Walmart ain't doing it, Target ain't doing it, none of these big name multi-billion dollar jobs are about to pay stockers and cashiers as much as the MIGHT pay their managers or as much other more professional companies pay for skill positions.​

I hear you...I doubt they'll do it either

 

[Theo_Huxtable]

I hear you...I doubt they'll do it either

Damn no they ain't.

They already told their workers fuck you, but this is how you save money from what we pay you.

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