Cause they get paid to do itSo why go for the divide and conquer tactics again and again...
I've hung around a large number of African foreign students in college and West indians in general. You're lying. You sound like a CAC.People who think ADOS are creating the division between "Black" people have clearly never hung around the vast majority of Afrians or west indians.
People come here and HATE DOS for no reason other than them thinking it will put them on a better foot with white people. Its as simple as that. ADOS is a necessary evil at this point because many of these groups have NOT been checked on their extreme prejudice. They get away with saying things the average CAC never would. I know it because I have seen it when they think I am a "Safe" person to say it around. Its disgusting.
You sound like a CAC talking about them being poor means theres no white privilege.I've hung around a large number of African foreign students in college and West indians in general. You're lying.
The resentment born out of being resented?Why exclude natives in their homeland if "we all black"?
The resentment born out of being resented?
FOH! This ain't a la carte. You can't pick portions of this situation that better fits your narrative. I married into a family of Guyanese immigrants. Ask them how they saw "ADOS" people when they first got here, and they'll ask you, "Before or after the days where we jumped going to and coming home from school, just because we had an accent?" Some you muhfuckas act like black immigrants came over here, moved into black neighborhoods, and were greeted with a welcome wagon and fresh baked pies.People who think ADOS are creating the division between "Black" people have clearly never hung around the vast majority of Afrians or west indians.
People come here and HATE DOS for no reason other than them thinking it will put them on a better foot with white people.
He is Ethiopian and has been a suspect poster in the past...notice he said DOS and not ADOS...thats a freudian slip...I believe he is assigning sentiments he has heard among some fuckery immigrants from the horn of Africa to all Black immigrants...there is no doubt that some Black immigrants talk fuckery about Black Americans (and vice versa) but what he is describing sounds more like the ramblings of someone who is not from west African stock...he said "many of these groups have NOT been checked on their extreme prejudice"...read some of those Somali forums and you will see that what they say goes far beyond what AAs, Caribbeans and so called Bantu Africans say about each otherI've hung around a large number of African foreign students in college and West indians in general. You're lying. You sound like a CAC.
FOH! This ain't a la carte. You can't pick portions of this situation that better fits your narrative. I married into a family of Guyanese immigrants. Ask them how they saw "ADOS" people when they first got here, and they'll ask you, "Before or after the days where we jumped going to and coming home from school, just because we had an accent?" Some you muhfuckas act like black immigrants came over here, moved into black neighborhoods, and were greeted with a welcome wagon and fresh baked pies.
Your appreciation is for something that's akin to a unicorn. It doesn't exist. Where did I say I agreed with that? I'll wait. I'm merely asking why should she feel bad for excluding ADOS people, when her ilk isn't considered "real" black people in some ADOS folks' eyes? Also, me asking people reasonable questions, does not imply support or a lack of resentment for WS. Don't know how you ended up there, but then again...I appreciate your honesty that you agree with the sentiment that ADOS should be excluded. Imagine if you had that resentment for WS? Crazy right.
Dude...Another black Americans have never done anything for black immigration post. We've only oppressed them.
My bottom in my sig is Guyanese by the way and her fam loves Black Americans, speak for yourself.
Who said a quick one time payment? We need what's owed. How are we seeing what can happen when people don't vote? Did Hillary not win the popular vote?So I ask again a quick one time payoff is going to make up for all that? Do you really think black folks will get the reperation checks Jews have gotten since the end of the Holocaust?
How is not voting is going to fix all that, when we are currently seeing what can happen when people don't vote or make poor voting choices?
The fact that NO Black ADOS pundit is willing to run for office is very interesting to me. If they are, ya'll should be promoting the hell of him or her.
Your appreciation is for something that's akin to a unicorn. It doesn't exist. Where did I say I agreed with that? I'll wait. I'm merely asking why should she feel bad for excluding ADOS people, when her ilk isn't considered "real" black people in some ADOS folks' eyes? Also, me asking people reasonable questions, does not imply support or a lack of resentment for WS. Don't know how you ended up there, but then again...
Supreme factsPeople who think ADOS are creating the division between "Black" people have clearly never hung around the vast majority of Afrians or west indians.
People come here and HATE DOS for no reason other than them thinking it will put them on a better foot with white people. Its as simple as that. ADOS is a necessary evil at this point because many of these groups have NOT been checked on their extreme prejudice. They get away with saying things the average CAC never would. I know it because I have seen it when they think I am a "Safe" person to say it around. Its disgusting.
And I've seen Jamaicans say the same thing to Black Americans.I had to look at it sideways when I saw an ADOS advocate tell a Jamaican:"You're not down with us! Your ancestors are from Jamaica, ours are from Africa!"
Cause they get paid to do it
Not saying agent, but they get money from it one way or another. They sell controversy.you sayin folks like tariq are agents??
I think that chick talkin about throwing a party in american an not inviting a certain group fits that hat....
but she has a right to throw a party and invite whoever the fuck she wants..
and giving a fuck about her and her lil party is pathetic as fuck....
life is much bigger than her little fuckin party bruh....
and the fact thats even part of this discussion is pathetic...
all this is gonna do is set a standard and once we get it all are brothers of the diaspora or gonna have to get it...
Being poor what? The fuck you taking about? You guys are nuts.You sound like a CAC talking about them being poor means theres no white privilege.
Get out of your little college bubble and realize how people live and whats really going on outside a campus.
Well said.Can the rights for ADOS reparations be justified and can Tariq be a fraud at the same time? The video in the OP was blatant conman-ship .....does every criticism of anybody associated with the ADOS movement mean that that person is against reparations for Black Americans?...so Tariq can make a clear fabrication but nobody is supposed to say anything because that means we are against the Black American struggle for reparations?...there are undoubtedly some people who are against ADOS reparations who hide behind other arguments....but that doesn't mean that is true for everybody with a criticism....one can be for Black American reparations while simultaneously criticizing frauds looking to milk the movement...there is nothing new about frauds making money off civil rights...don't you want to out the frauds in your movement?...all they are going to do is undermine you at the most critical time...Tariq was talking complete fuckery in this video....just because he says some shit that is true and sounds good some of the time doesn't mean he isn't a fraud...why would he try to link Belizeans and Chicago?...do you really want this individual out front speaking for the movement?
First, I want to say I am 100% in favor of reparations for ADOS.Tariq does good work and challenges white supremacy. Can you specifically tell me what he said in this video that justifys not giving reparations to ADOS? He said there are black immigrants that participate in gangs, is that not true? When Nipsey died and a poster here claimed he couldnt be a real crip cuz he was Eritrean, a bunch of black immigrants on BGOL laughed and said its plenty immigrants in LA bangin. Now Tariq says it, this is the gotcha moment to end reparations?
Yes if youre proactively working against ADOS FBA you are against reparations and will be recognized as such. Receipts are being collected so 20, 30, 40 years from now we can show our kids where the pushback came from. And which black people did not want black people to receive reparations.
What kind of weird analogy, family? What does Tariq and Kamala have to do with each other? When was Tariq run for President or hold office? Who said we should be voting for Kamala Harris as some kind of litmus test for Blackness? I sure don't intend to vote for her. A Tariq goes, if didn't consistently shit on other Black folks, lie and embellish the truth sans receipts and do the verbal legwork for white supremacists there would be nothing to pick apart.It's amazing. They just pick every little thing the guy says apart, but we are supposed to feel confident in voting for Kamala Harris.![]()
We are owed those reparations. Period. It's not a question of what it will make up for. It is an issue of justice and recompense for the damage that was done. Yes, we could attain ongoing reparations, absolutely.So I ask again a quick one time payoff is going to make up for all that? Do you really think black folks will get the reperation checks Jews have gotten since the end of the Holocaust?
How is not voting is going to fix all that, when we are currently seeing what can happen when people don't vote or make poor voting choices?
The fact that NO Black ADOS pundit is willing to run for office is very interesting to me. If they are, ya'll should be promoting the hell of him or her.
Exactly.Next thing this dumb motherfucker is going to say is that the Crips, Bloods, Gangster Disciples, etc were first generation Caribbean immigrants who were sent by the government to infiltrate and destroy the black community from within.
Tariq is one of the many reasons we got Trump. He was on the "don't vote, they both da same!", then backtracked after the election, now he's going full fucking retard. Fuck him
Quite possibly.you sayin folks like tariq are agents??.
you sayin folks like tariq are agents??
Quite possibly.
Yes, Black Americans deserve reparations. However, I’m not about to even touch on defining who is and who isn't a Black American.
This shit is much more gray than it is black and white.
Quite possibly.
He may, or may not be an agent, but he's behaving like one.
Here he is blaming black immigrants for AIDS in the black community
This is shit white supremacists do. Cherry pick facts and statistics to fit your narrative singling out a group or "others" as the real enemies.
I had to look at it sideways when I saw an ADOS advocate tell a Jamaican:"You're not down with us! Your ancestors are from Jamaica, ours are from Africa!"
For the purpose of reparations for slavery, it would be those whose ancestors were slaves in what is now the United States...for most it should be somewhat easy to define while a few who deserve will not get but a few who don't will...but I believe the vast majority can be easily defined to the point where I believe a fair, distribution system could be created...if you move it beyond reparations for slavery and include Jim crow and general post slavery discrimination then it does get a bit trickier...I believe enough info is out there that you could move forward with the process as it will get the majority of cases correct...there will definitely be some mix ups here and there but anything as big and complicated as this would be would have thatADOS is just like any other human label. Categorize a group of people and try to define them based on whatever characteristics that is set into place by some non authoritative figure.
Yes, Black Americans deserve reparations. However, I’m not about to even touch on defining who is and who isn't a Black American.
This shit is much more gray than it is black and white.
He may, or may not be an agent, but he's behaving like one.
Here he is blaming black immigrants for AIDS in the black community
This is shit white supremacists do. Cherry pick facts and statistics to fit your narrative singling out a group or "others" as the real enemies.
I almost want to say, apples and oranges.What about Talib Kweli?
Yes, dude definitely hustles and pimps Black suffering and Black consciousness.yea well on the internet anything is possible... I dont think he is an agent as much as he is a hustler who is
great at pimpin opportunities...
I think this conversation is just wasting time.. what should be discussed is, shit like land..somewhere far from cold.. as we are tropical people..duh....
those who want the cold tho, should have an option to go to colder climates tho....
we should be talkin tangibles.... anything else is chatty patty battyman shit...
Yes, dude definitely hustles and pimps Black suffering and Black consciousness.
Good brother, when we are speaking about taking part in the political process and voting, we are talking about tangibles. The same goes for when we speak of Tariq's rhetoric whereas he labels anyone not African-American as either our enemy or not worthy of caring what happens to them. Speaking as if caring about the welfare of other human beings outside of our immediate culture group is selling out. That's insanity and a dangerous and destructive way of thinking. As a matter of fact, it is identical to the disinformation campaign waged by the Russians against us. Might even be a part of it, actually.
WS in power want us all to be inactive, be divided and be conquered. Considering Tariq's and his nerdly counterpart Boyce Watkins' huge audiences, a gang of Black folks might just be deluded into inaction on election day. Certainly a sizeable portion of them in 2016 took and will again in 2020 take his advice and stay home.
I hope not though. I would love to see more of us get involved in actual sustained actions towards our liberation. I'd also love to see us throw all ideas on the table and formulate some game plans.
I almost want to say, apples and oranges.
Tariq has been consistent in divisiveness, disrespect towards Black women, misinformation and attacking and lying on activism/activists/protest movements for years and has been on a constant mission of isolating Black Americans from all other non-white groups ever since the 2016 election. I would honestly be surprised if Tariq wasn't on the payroll.
Talib's insane rhetoric has been more recent, whereas before he was on point.
That said, considering his sudden radical shift, it's possible.