Tariq Nasheed just lost a fuck load of credibility....SMFH!
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It raises the question, was every slave who gave birth to a mixed child raped by a slavemaster during slavery?
If they were, then why did some of them still decide to side with their white fathers and create "Mulatto elite" groups to distance themselves from Blacks?
The largest slave rebellion to take place in the U.S. was planned out by Denmark Vesey. It was sabotaged by a group called the "Brown Fellowship Society". I wont go into details, but you can connect the dots.
Not to mention some of them even owned slaves in South Carolina at one point.
I say all this to make the point that ADOS reparations should be exclusive to those who have 2 parents who are ADOS Black, and even though Mulattoes may have 1 ADOS parent they shouldnt qualify, neither should anyone else who is a cultural hybrid (1 Black non-ADOS parent and 1 ADOS parent).
The honorable Dr. John Henrik Clarke tried to school folks many years ago, but it fell on deaf ears.
It would be foolish to think that the colonizers of the U.S. never used the same strategy that the colonizers of West Africa once used.
Wow. Just wow. I can't take y'all seriously. You think 10, 12, and 14 year olds were giving consent? Or any woman? Or that psychological games weren't being played such as realizing not resisting might have meant more food, less beatings or a bit of kindness shown in otherwise harsh conditions? After the first generation when kids were brought up never having known rights or freedom, you think they had any notion they could refuse or were anything other than property to be used as white people saw fit? You are looking back at 1800 century life with a modern day mindset. SAYING NO WAS NOT AN OPTION. White women were killing so many black slave children, often offspring of their husbands, that laws were actually passed so that if a child was accidentally killed because they were being disciplined, that it wasn't considered murder.
Don't get it twisted, Sally Hemmings was an anomaly. Y'all hate white folks (Edit: and black women) so much it has warped y'alls damn minds.
I think you have my post misconstrued. I never said that Black women werent raped, we know they were raped en masse and that's definitely screwed up. I'll even go as far to say the Black woman is the most disrespected of everyone on the planet. I'm just shedding light on the fact that every mixed child was not created by way of rape.
Just like we had Bed Bucks back then, there were Bed Wenches as well. The mixed children that were created by way of these affairs went on to create the mulatto elite platforms that existed during the time.
Think about it, why would these white men allow their mixed children to create platforms that promoted the segregation of Black people through colorism?.....Where did the brown paper bag test come from? When was the test used?.....It was used to keep brown/dark skin Blacks out of groups that were geared towards Mulattoes (and lighter skin Blacks who can pass).
As far as the hate thing, I could never hate Black woman. I am just acknowledging historic hard pills in American history. There are other hard pills as well.
For example, many Black folk like to romanticize the Native Indian, when in reality some of the Natives owned slaves and even went as far as joining the confederacy to keep their slaves. Although some of us have native ancestry, and even more of us have mulattoes in our family tree somewhere, it doesnt take away from the fact that people from those 2 ethnic groups owned slaves in certain regions of the U.S.
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The term, "Bed wenches" is ahistorical and made up. It's a figment of Tariq Nasheed's imagination. "Bed bucks", also fictitious, is a name he conjured up to equalize things after getting heat for that insulting shit he came up with for Black women.
Thanks for the correction. For conversation sake, I will say "Uncle Toms" (males) and "Aunt Thomasinas" (females). Double agents were always on the plantations, both in the male and female form.
YALL??
hate "black" woman??
how you get yall from one posters post tho??
do you say the same when you hear "black" women downing "black" men in support of swirling...
as they are slowly fiquring out these cacs just have ghetto gagger fetishes they want to play out on "black" women..
Why would you even remotely believe what I said applied to you?
yea I know Im just curious as from your perspective whom those foolish haters of "black" women b tho
Kneegrow please. This site is full of bitter menfolk, and it's often other men here pointing that out. Unless you hold the same beliefs as the person I quoted, I still don't understand why you think that applies to YOU. For years the women of BGOL have been told when y'all say black women are xyz, and we take issue with it, that y'all are speaking in general terms. I'm speaking generally also, HOWEVER, if you think the same way he does, knowing damn well no one, black or white, in this country has a pure bloodline, then oh well no apologies.
I never even remotely thought it applied to me I just wanted u to name names...
That is all its not that serious
The people who have so much concern for where biracials fit in never ever demand they are seen as a white person or should be given access to whiteness. The 1 drop rule magically doesn't confuse them and they accept WS racial heirarchy that they can never be white, they just demand access to blackness if they choose. ADOS being the bottom caste influences how so many people see themselves. If that changes, they are lost.
The good thing about ADOS is those who are confused dont get a seat at the table and gotta wait in the lobby.
I have not checked the video out completely. But the saying is he who has the most access to the mind or brain controls the the brain or mind. During the 60's and 70's blacks were showing character that whites had in non of their books for the public to see. We had love and admiration for each other and was talking about love, peace, togetherness, soul power, etc. and our hair was natural and sported the afro with pride. Some of us were even uncovering hidden knowledge like Elijah Muhammad. But whites bringing in the drugs and concentrating it in the black communities made us more easier to be programmed by them. It is not natural to live by all these lies and falsehood of whites without taking the poison to control the mind.So foreign blacks especially Carribeans are the main cause of gang violence.
That's why Haitian Jack, Jimmy Henchman ( Haitian ) and Biggie ( Jamaican ) had beef with Pac ( ADOS ).
It all makes sense now.
This nigga is just making up shit as he goes along.
Who's shook again?
It has been proven in Jonestown and Rwanda. People do what they are programmed to do. They may think they do what they want to do but actually they are programmed to do their master's bidding. Elijah was showing us an example of what being a man is. There is no reason why I should obey the president or any other man. Especially if they are suppose to be human just like I am. There is not reason why my kids should be programmed by whites and we know from the past they are our open enemies. They are an enemy to themselves and humanity. But why in the fuck do we promote everything that comes from white males who we know for a fact are homosexuals, racist, murders, liars, and everything else they try to accuse us of being. But they are rewarded for hiding their true self and will kill a black man before they let him be himself. They killed Jesus for being black and not inferior to white supremacy.
this shit had me rotflmbao
Some of the attitudes and opinions in this thread are quite disturbing. I wish some of you "non voters" would study black American history and put into perspective the process and time it takes to challenge and change laws of which are clearly bias towards us. If you want to base your entire anti vote stance based on ONE issue, then, maybe, you are just looking for an excuse as to why you are not exercising your right to participate in the political process. There is no ONE person who will become president of the United States and be able to erase the hundreds of years of discrimination and racism against blacks in America.
For those who say why continue to vote when nothing ever changes. Are you fucking serious? Things don't change without a fight. By not participating in elections, you are going into the fight with zero power. If we can agree that most of the changes we are concerned about are mostly legislative, how is new legislation introduced and passed? Smh
For those who say why continue to vote when nothing ever changes. Are you fucking serious? Things don't change without a fight. By not participating in elections, you are going into the fight with zero power. If we can agree that most of the changes we are concerned about are mostly legislative, how is new legislation introduced and passed? Smh
I always pass the paper bag test
So basically no light skin niggas can get a reparations check?
So basically no light skin niggas can get a reparations check?
I always pass the paper bag test
So basically no light skin niggas can get a reparations check?
So basically no light skin niggas can get a reparations check?
I always pass the paper bag test
So basically no light skin niggas can get a reparations check?
So basically no light skin niggas can get a reparations check?
The newly elected Prosecutor Wesley Bell is a BLM activist who CLEANED HOUSE after he was voted in by the people of Ferguson. The City Council (formerly all white) was voted out by the people of Ferguson.
Tariq shitting on the BLM movement, posting goofy memes on twitter, and selling "DON'T VOTE" nonsense is not what changed Ferguson. These Riq stans are something else.
So never mind the Ferguson community actually mobilizing at town hall meetings and voting, Tariq's tweets changed Ferguson
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See, this is what I’m talking about when it come to defining what is it isn’t ADOS.
Where do you draw the line?
My great great grandmother, Augustus, (death 1859) was mulatto and her “baby’s father” was also mulatto. Augustus is the mother to my father’s grandfather, William. So that make all descendants from that side of the family mixed. But if you was to look at my father and his mother, you wouldn’t be able to tell that his lineage is mixed.
I can go even further detail how about my family lineage, but your logic falls completely apart the closer I get to the 1800s and I’m lucky enough to have info on this stuff for both my mother and father’s side.
Have you ever done a family tree? How can my father be ADOS black if his great mother and great grandfather on his mother side is mixed?
Like I was saying saying earlier. This mess is gray as hell. Where do you draw the line at? You going to consider the grandparents and great grandparents as to what qualifies as ADOS?
See, this is what I’m talking about when it come to defining what is it isn’t ADOS.
Where do you draw the line?
My great great grandmother, Augustus, (death 1859) was mulatto and her “baby’s father” was also mulatto. Augustus is the mother to my father’s grandfather, William. So that make all descendants from that side of the family mixed. But if you was to look at my father and his mother, you wouldn’t be able to tell that his lineage is mixed.
I can go even further detail how about my family lineage, but your logic falls completely apart the closer I get to the 1800s and I’m lucky enough to have info on this stuff for both my mother and father’s side.
Have you ever done a family tree? How can my father be ADOS black if his great mother and great grandfather on his mother side is mixed?
Like I was saying saying earlier. This mess is gray as hell. Where do you draw the line at? You going to consider the grandparents and great grandparents as to what qualifies as ADOS?
Pretty much if you are unsure if you are ADOS you more than likely arent. Most people who are know their family history and arent confused about if they had family members that were enslaved in the US. Do you know if you have family members that immigrated to America? Do you consider your nationality ONLY Black American or is there another that you or family members identify with? Thatll tell us alot if you are ADOS and just havent realized it.
None of my family are immigrants or descendants of, but the commentor I quoted brought in mix race and said that both Parents should be ADOS and one parent being biracial/mulatto does not qualify.
Do you agree with that? Where is the line drawn is my question.
If you got 1 ados parent you are half ados. And half whatever the other parent is. This isnt hard to understand bro. Ive seen you break down weather systems in detail.
I’m asking legit questions though.
Does that child qualify for reparations or not if one parent is ADOS and the other isn’t? @gw1933 made his stance and said they should not qualify if one parent is biracial.
I just asking do you or do you not agree with him?
See, this is what I’m talking about when it come to defining what is it isn’t ADOS.
Where do you draw the line?
My great great grandmother, Augustus, (death 1859) was mulatto and her “baby’s father” was also mulatto. Augustus is the mother to my father’s grandfather, William. So that make all descendants from that side of the family mixed. But if you was to look at my father and his mother, you wouldn’t be able to tell that his lineage is mixed.
I can go even further detail how about my family lineage, but your logic falls completely apart the closer I get to the 1800s and I’m lucky enough to have info on this stuff for both my mother and father’s side.
Have you ever done a family tree? How can my father be ADOS black if his great mother and great grandfather on his mother side is mixed?
The area is totally gray. How does the money get sliced then?...Blood quantum rules? etc.?
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Like I was saying saying earlier. This mess is gray as hell. Where do you draw the line at? You going to consider the grandparents and great grandparents as to what qualifies as ADOS?
It's definitely gray...and I am also aware of the fact that phenotype and genoptype are 2 different things.
Hence the reason you can have a dark skinned Black person who has less African DNA than a light skinned Black person, especially in the case of Black Americans.
On that note, who qualifies as ADOS?
On the flipside, there are people who classify as White, but they have Black in them as well. Should they be considered ADOS as well?
For example, the daughter in this video looks like a straight up white girl, she even identifies as white, despite her Black ancestry. You cant tell me she experienced the same injustices that a darker skinned Black woman, or even a lighter skinned Black woman experienced in America. If some type of reparations hit, they will be coming out the woodworks taking what is rightfully ours.
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sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.....
dont forget about the goddam sambos.......
they deserve a worse death then the cacs......
uncle toms were just submissive.. many of them didnt sell out, they just never put up a fight... but them fuckin sambos...
bruh!
but I get exactly what you are sayin tho....
facts!!
I’ve seen Tariq Nasheed at the Strand theatre. He’s a big dude. I’m big myself and he’s a giant over me. Nasheed should be a pro wrestler. He should change his name from King Flex to the Crippler.
Faggit!
I don’t know who should and who shouldnt qualify. My stance is that it’s impossble to classify Black Americans as ADOS because how one defined ADOS leaves too much room for debate.
Black Americans are a constructed group. Black Americans are a mixture of a lot of different ethnicities and cultures. By labeling a portion of Black Americans as ADOS, your negating another portion by saying they are not purely ADOS?
You can’t see how this can become divisive in the worse kind of way? And since this country is becoming a melting pot of races and cultures mixing at a very high rate, where is the line drawn?
Technically, anyone with a Black American linage is ADOS. However, we are trying to measure how much lineage will qualify a person to earn the title of ADOS, which in turn would earn them reparations?
Man, this isn’t going to go well at all. I’m not saying Black Americans don’t deserve reparations, but there has to be a better and more effective way to award reparations for those that deserves them. Labeling people isn’t it. We already in fight within our race too much as it is.
Go back to your hut.
If she been indentifying as white and marking such on the census, she wouldnt qualify even if she had ADOS ancestry way down the line. She can still support ADOS if she chose to though.
Go back to your closet faggit. You slowly coming out wit ya man admiring.
I can see how this whole thing can be a problem. I gotta feeling it's gonna ramp up as the years go by.
This white guy was rejected due to having 4% black dna, and he continues to fight the case legally. If his case and/or other similar cases are successful, it's gonna open the floodgates for alot of other things......Not a good look
Man who is 4% Black Wants To Qualify As Minority Business Owner
A Seattle man has filed a federal lawsuit after being denied federal certification as a minority business owner.
Ralph Taylor was raised and identified as Caucasian, as listed on his birth certificate. Like many Americans in recent years, he took a DNA test in 2010 that indicated he was 4% Sub-Saharan African, in addition to being 90% European and 6& indigenous American.
https://premonetwork.com/post/man-who-is-4-black-wants-to-qualify-as-minority-business-owner
I can see how this whole thing can be a problem. I gotta feeling it's gonna ramp up as the years go by.
This white guy was rejected due to having 4% black dna, and he continues to fight the case legally. If his case and/or other similar cases are successful, they will have access to what is ours......Not a good look
Man who is 4% Black Wants To Qualify As Minority Business Owner
A Seattle man has filed a federal lawsuit after being denied federal certification as a minority business owner.
Ralph Taylor was raised and identified as Caucasian, as listed on his birth certificate. Like many Americans in recent years, he took a DNA test in 2010 that indicated he was 4% Sub-Saharan African, in addition to being 90% European and 6& indigenous American.
https://premonetwork.com/post/man-who-is-4-black-wants-to-qualify-as-minority-business-owner
DNA tests only measure genetic markers. His shit gon get thrown out cuz of his paperwork. And this is a seperate issue than ADOS justice claim. Post an article of a CAC that claims he descends from slaves in the US and wants reparations for their labor.
Big don't mean shit you moist ass nigga. What the fuck does this nigga being "big" have jack shit to do with anything. Faggot. You sound lovestruck.
Don't do that.
