I was having a bad day until I saw this!!! Made my Day!!!! Kevin Hart is a damn fool!!!!
I actually laughed out loud at work, cacs lookin at me all crazy and shit.
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I actually laughed out loud at work, cacs lookin at me all crazy and shit.
Yep. Ive been saying that for a while.. I said last year the best way for Floyd to cement his legacy would be to beat Mosley, Pacman, and Williams.. but I would be more impresse with Sergio than P.Will.
Full time welter my ass... Manny will always be able to use his size as an excuse if he loses.
I think Floyd might fight Martinez cause that's the big money compared to everybody else near that weight.
If he fights...
Sergio is closer to Floyd's size, but I don't think will get credit as far as his legacy is concerned unless he beats P. Will or Manny.
The average fan may not know Martinez as much and Martinez doesn't have the dynamic fighting style, dynamic character, or dynamic record yet to stand out in the history books.
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Then Floyd is just ass. And he doesn't deserve to be mentioned all time anything except lightweight. He didn't have a problem going to 154 for old ass Oscar.
I look at all the problems a pinpoint counter puncher with holes in his defense gave Manny(Marquez). And then I look at Floyd, a pinpoint counterpuncher with an awesome defense who's much bigger than Manny, not a good look for Manny. Arum and Roach are gonna stretch this out as far as they can so Manny can build a lil more legacy, make some more money and for Floyd to get a lil bit older before they jump in the ring with Floyd. And why exactly would a loss to a much bigger, really good fighter be catastrophic? If it's a great fight, Floyd would win alot of fans who before would just call him a coward, he would win points in the boxing community and among writers. this is the type of thinking that is wrong with boxing today.
So we're at the point where a fighter won't jump in the ring with a guy he might lose to huh? Boxing is just
He didn't actually go to 154, he fought Oscar at 150.
It would be catastrophic because no one outside boxing hardcores knows who Sergio is. To us, it's a legit loss to a bigger, good fighter. To the masses, it's him losing to a nobody.
And doing a hell of a job. Shit's hysterical.
A super welter weight fight is anywhere from 148-154. The limit is 154, I should have specified superwelter but you know what I meant. He already went up to super welter for one fight, why can't he do it again?
Cause one was risking the odds for that De La Hoya money.
Vic Darchinyan would fight at super welter to cash in.
I think Floyd would consider fighting Martinez by the way, but I don't think its smart to have your weight fluctuate especially when you don't fight that much.
Lol, you guys crack me up. Look at the top ten fighters of all time. They all have something Floyd doesn't have. Historic matches were both fighters were evenly matched. Pbf career doesn't measure up to an all time great. He is an all time great talent. But his career is something to be desired. When chop chop, Castillo and Emmanuel Burton are considered your toughest figs then that says it all to me.
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He could. I'm sure he could put on a few pounds but it's Martinez who would have to come down and I'm way over catchweights. Martinez is the middleweight champion and 35 yrs old. It would be a better, more interesting fight for him to fight Angulo or rematch with Williams for the middleweight title.
So when you finish laughing, you can show us where anyone called him a Top 10 all time fighter.
Can't and won't....
I just don't view him as an all-time top ten or twenty. I think manny is a top 50 and floyd is. Top 100. But the difference liesin the competition to me.
SM and PBF is to me the biggest fight in the game. I am geeked up seeing pbf go after a top 10 fighter that is in his prime. SM has proven not toe a Ricky Hatton. I would love to see this fight more than any fight.
I can name more than 50 fighters with better careers than pbf. Who can't do that? I mean you can name 10 better in every weight class he has fought in. So that isn't so far fetched.
1) Merce said if Floyd beat P Will or Sergio then he could be considered top 10 or 20.
2) Gatti has had a better career than Winky Wright if you base it only on the fights they have been in, but shouldn't the skill of the fighter also be added to the equation.
3) WTF is liesin?
4) Sergio is good but there is no way he equals "biggest fight"
5) WTF does "SM has proven not toe a Ricky Hatton" mean?
at #5If he beats one, top 20, if he beat both, top ten no doubt. He's pretty undersized in both those fights. And beating Sergio would pretty much be a welterweight beating a middleweight because ain't no way in hell he's making 160. Beating a guy six foot three with a reach longer than Ali would be a serious feat for a guy as small as Floyd. Beating Pac, to me at least, carries less weight than either of them individually.
#2 is debatable. I agree with the first half. But the second part.....I can name 10 heavyweight fighters off the top of my head with better skills than Rocky Marciano - a couple who are fighting right now. But most purists consider him a top 5 all time heavy and it's hard to debate that. Undefeated, fought everyone in his era that was worth fighting, and straight demolished cats who outweighed him by 30 or 40 lbs most of the time, homie was basically a cruiserweight putting heads OUT at heavyweight. And he wasn't much of an athlete. Floyd can only claim one of those, being undefeated, which does not necessarily equal a great career. Skill wise though? He's no doubt top ten all time. If Floyd beat Pacman and retired, I still cannot say, in my mind at least, that he was a great champion, too many asterisks, too many questions left unanswered. Great skills? Some of the greatest, but great champ, no way.
Great point but I want to say a best of list in boxing should be created with an equation that includes skills and record. You've given me a good example. Put Marciano in the era with Ali, Smokin Joe, and Foreman.
If Floyd fights Martinez, I would be shocked cause of the size advantage. I can't see Floyd being able to move up in weight and look good. Now if Martinez came down or met him half way maybe, but then niggas will say Floyd drained him.
Lol, I am at work typing on my iPad. Auto correction is a bitch and I don't have time to proof.
Winky had an interesting career. But to compare him to gatti is not fair. Gatti was the product of great match making and big balls. He was a b level fighter, but was involved in 3 ring magazine fights of the year. That as fair as I believe is unprecedented. He is Hall of fame based on those fights.
Winky is a damn good fighter who was not allowed to shine. And that impacts his legacy.
Winky is a damn good fighter who was not allowed to shine. And that impacts his legacy.
But it would be an accomplishment(and Floyd would get to see how it looked from all those lil ass dudes he fought p.o.v.), boxers today are too worried about looking good. That's what seperates great from could-have-been-great. Macho Camacho had some of the greatest pure boxing talent I've seen, but I could never call homie a great champ. He bitched out too many times in important fights, played it too safe after the Rosario fight, which he lost imho, the same way Floyd has played it safe ever since the 1st Castillo fight.
Some cats might call it a lack of heart. It's like the old saying "dare to be great", it's a phrase you don't hear anymore because everyone is playing it safe. And we literally don't know how Marciano would have fared against a Frazier or a Foreman(Ali is not even a question). I mean how many people told Ali he'd probably die against Foreman, but he did it anyway, and embarassed homie. THAT'S greatness. Foreman was in his prime and was straight murkin niccas, all the top dudes, and had Ali outsized. Floyd just doesn't have that kind of greatness in him, and to put him in a category with cats like that is an injustice to the truly great fighters who "dared to be great". Unless he proves it, he doesn't belong. I feel him though, he's about money, if he loses the zero, he loses pretty much his only attraction for the non-purist. The laymen pay to see him lose. And the laymen make up the bulk of ppv buys. If he loses, he has to start all over again, he's too old for that.
Imho as a purist, beating Pacman does little for his legacy, Pac is less skilled, less speedy, and undersized, NOT a huse challenge for Floyd. He's just the only boxer with up to par star power in comparison to Floyd.
Yup.
And I feel exactly the same as u do about the manny vs pbf fight. I don't see it as a fight that matters except for manny being the p4p king. The barely interest me. I think pbf would win cause he knows how to win rounds without actually beating up his opponent better than anyone in the history of boxing. I just don't think he can fight that way against a bigger fighter like SM.
If he beats one, top 20, if he beat both, top ten no doubt. He's pretty undersized in both those fights. And beating Sergio would pretty much be a welterweight beating a middleweight because ain't no way in hell he's making 160. Beating a guy six foot three with a reach longer than Ali would be a serious feat for a guy as small as Floyd. Beating Pac, to me at least, carries less weight than either of them individually.
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Since Williams claims to still be able to make 147 (which I highly doubt and would advise against), that's the more do-able fight and the one that I personally would give the most credibility to. Williams is at or near his prime and a championship fighter. Boy, if he had done away with Cintron impressively, he would be in a great position right now.
And they would be right. Tim Bradley weighed 148 lbs for his Abregu fight, making him and Floyd practically the same size. If he had any name recognition beyond this board, that fight could be made. After pummelling Carlos Quintana, Berto should have been trying to get Shane Mosley in the ring ASAP.
Fighters have to make themselves attractive to Mayweather and Pacquiao. Arum, a man I'm not in the habit of agreeing with, was very honest when he said he wasn't giving other promoters a free ride. Promoters not named Arum or Golden Boy need to get to work. There is big money out there waiting to be had.
He already knows. He's fought just as many fighters with a size disadvantage and with an advantage.
Ali had to take that fight since in his last BIG fight he got beat and Foreman was the top moneymaker of the day and the undisputed champion. Boxing then was more like MMA today than it is current boxing. Ali was my man (if I could have, I would have converted as a little kid just to be like Ali, that cartoon had me gone) but it was more about the money and the fame than any sense of courage and heart.
Absolutely. I'd just say they're all in it for the money.
Manny wouldn't be undersized against Floyd Mayweather. They're almost the exact same size. Same weight with Floyd having a 1 inch height advantage which really makes Manny a larger man.
I disagree to a point. His beating Pacquiao would be received by the masses as a HUGE accomplishment since Arum and Roach have done a masterful job of building Manny up. If he had a better mastery of the English language, he would be even bigger than he is.
Look at it like this
You and I know Oscar fucking stole that middleweight title from Felix Sturm. But in the books, it's another title for Oscar and Sturm still can't get back on tv. Unless Williams and Martinez do some spectacular shit later, a fight and win over either them would only be meaningful to us, the hardcore fans, but dismissed by the masses and looked at like he fought some nobody and ducked Pacquiao.
Did Wink play it safe (in the ring of course, but in picking fights?) or did he have a hard time getting good opponents. The loss to Vargas killed him just as Zahir Raheem couldn't afford to lose to Acelino Freitas. Tough fighters with no audience have to win every fight or the top guys won't fight them. Even when Winky was hot, he called out Oscar to his face and Oscar wanted no parts of it.
In the ring Dave, never said anything about his opponents, even mentioned a highlight reel.
C'mon Dave, who exactly has Floyd been size disadvantage against? Oscar and.......who else, the nicca was actually a tad bigger than Shane, which makes him physically a whole lot bigger than Manny. You're buggin dude. Wait til those guys are in the ring together. The Floyd supporters were the ones who tried to tell me that him and Marquez were almost the same size. And how do you figure floyd has a one inch height advantage when Manny is five foot six and Floyd is five nine and a half?
Floyd's upper body has seriously filled out, as I said he looked bigger than Shane.And to the boxing purist, as I stated before, never said the "masses", the "masses" don't know shit about boxing and they aren't the ones who build your legacy. The purists and the writers dissecting your shit 20 years and writing books about you later make your legacy.
Paul Williams currently holds the "worlds most ducked fighter" universally, if Floyd fights and beats homie, it's a bigger accomplishment in the long run than beating Manny. Because Manny will also be chopped up and dissected and the same things we're saying here about his legacy will be brought up as well.
And yes, they are all in it for the money, but Floyd's nickname IS Money, he throws it in the air, in the camera, at the club, he walks around with huge bags of it. People associate him with MONEY. Plus you and I both know that he doesn't give a shit about the sport of boxing as a whole, he cares about HIM, and to a certain extent, I don't blame him. But it's another reason why he'll never be a great champ in my eyes.
Tim Bradley would lose to Floyd or Pac badly after watching Saturday's fight again. He has no power, and he lunges wildly way too much, he's not ready. Really, Bradley and Floyd the same size? Please give me a sip of whatever you are drinking, I'm out of JW Gold.
Floyd is looking like the DAD of a lot of these lil welters lately. Floyd can make superwelter, instead of making cats come up, he should go up, he won't because he'd sacrifice his greatest weapon, speed. It's the reason HE SAID he came in weighing 150 for the Oscar fight, he could have made 154 but wanted to be faster.
So laying up on the ropes and letting the most devastating puncher in heavyweight history beat on your sides wasn't about heart and courage?!?!?! C,mon nicca gimme a sip!!Winky doesn't have a ko highlight reel but I'm impressed by shutdown defense, in boxing, basketball and any other sport, so I have a different perspective.
Floyd's 5'8, not 5'9 and Pac is 5'6 and a half. Using Shane Mosley makes my point. Shane is 5'9 and weigh (at weigh in) 147 while Floyd weighed 146. With Floyd being the shorter man but them weight almost the same, Floyd appeared as a larger man, as with Pacqiauo when measured againt Floyd. Floyd is fighting at closer to his natural weight while Shane should probably be a jr. middle and his pummelling of Margarito was fool's gold.
Since Manny crouched and weaves a lot, a potential face off would make him look a lot taller in the ring but the difference isn't much, very similar to Marquez. Even though it's only an inch, Floyd would use his height and reach advantage (something Mr. Williams should really do more). When he needed to be bigger, he topped out at about 149-150. The man started at super featherweight and a move up as high as junior middleweight would be unusual.
I can't say I hate catchweights and then want him to fight guys that can only happen if they fight at one.
Don't underestimate the influence of "the masses". More than purist write books and even amongst them (us) they all have individual preferences. People write books to make money and there will always be more money in attacking Floyd Mayweather than extolling his virtues (see how long this thread is and how short the Bradley-Abregu thread is). With his ppv numbers and endorsements, more people will remember Floyd as a star and give him more credit than it can be argued he earned.
Beating Williams right now wouldn't mean much to anyone unless Williams does something to make himself a "somebody". If he hadn't loss to Quintana, he might have already gotten the Mayweather fight because he would have something attractive: a welterweight title, some good wins on national tv, and a 0 in the loss column. If May beat PWill and then Williams flamed out, it would undercut the victory, like Pavlik beating Jermain Taylor. To the converse, the big winner of the legendary Castillo-Corrales war was Floyd since he had beaten both of them handily.
C'mon now, you know a lot of that is the "Money" gimmick and it's paid off handsomely (he made $60 million dollars in the last 12 months
).I think he respects the sport but he was raised in it and lacks the romanticism a lot of people try to attach to it.
You can feel how you feel but I'll never hold it against an athlete who says he's going to use the sport but not let the sport use him.
Tim Bradley would lose to Floyd or Pac badly after watching Saturday's fight again. He has no power, and he lunges wildly way too much, he's not ready. Really, Bradley and Floyd the same size? Please give me a sip of whatever you are drinking, I'm out of JW Gold.
Stop lying. You know damn well you ain't out of shit
. You know you got barrels of that shit in the attic. Bradley is a little muhfucka. He's even shorter than Pac and he definitely isn't ready for the A list yet but he's the "next big thing" at welter (see Bradley thread).
He also said he weighed 148 in the postfight interview. Why would he sacrifice his greatest asset? The point of going up shouldn't be just to do it. Only stupid fighters, and there have been many, go up at the expense of their best weapons and the traits that make them special.
That's not what I said. All fighters have heart and courage or else they wouldn't engage in a sport where you can die in any fight but it's not deniable Foreman was the undisputed champion and the hottest shit happening in the sport, thereby the biggest attraction. Plus that wasn't the original gameplan going in, he made a mental adjustment in the ring. It's not like he walked in a laid on the ropes.
I would never give you a sip. I can tell a Hoover when I see one
Winky doesn't have a ko highlight reel but I'm impressed by shutdown defense, in boxing, basketball and any other sport, so I have a different perspective.
Floyd's 5'8, not 5'9 and Pac is 5'6 and a half. Using Shane Mosley makes my point. Shane is 5'9 and weigh (at weigh in) 147 while Floyd weighed 146. With Floyd being the shorter man but them weight almost the same, Floyd appeared as a larger man, as with Pacqiauo when measured againt Floyd. Floyd is fighting at closer to his natural weight while Shane should probably be a jr. middle and his pummelling of Margarito was fool's gold.
Since Manny crouched and weaves a lot, a potential face off would make him look a lot taller in the ring but the difference isn't much, very similar to Marquez. Even though it's only an inch, Floyd would use his height and reach advantage (something Mr. Williams should really do more). When he needed to be bigger, he topped out at about 149-150. The man started at super featherweight and a move up as high as junior middleweight would be unusual.
I can't say I hate catchweights and then want him to fight guys that can only happen if they fight at one.
Don't underestimate the influence of "the masses". More than purist write books and even amongst them (us) they all have individual preferences. People write books to make money and there will always be more money in attacking Floyd Mayweather than extolling his virtues (see how long this thread is and how short the Bradley-Abregu thread is). With his ppv numbers and endorsements, more people will remember Floyd as a star and give him more credit than it can be argued he earned.
Beating Williams right now wouldn't mean much to anyone unless Williams does something to make himself a "somebody". If he hadn't loss to Quintana, he might have already gotten the Mayweather fight because he would have something attractive: a welterweight title, some good wins on national tv, and a 0 in the loss column. If May beat PWill and then Williams flamed out, it would undercut the victory, like Pavlik beating Jermain Taylor. To the converse, the big winner of the legendary Castillo-Corrales war was Floyd since he had beaten both of them handily.
C'mon now, you know a lot of that is the "Money" gimmick and it's paid off handsomely (he made $60 million dollars in the last 12 months
I think he respects the sport but he was raised in it and lacks the romanticism a lot of people try to attach to it.
You can feel how you feel but I'll never hold it against an athlete who says he's going to use the sport but not let the sport use him.
Stop lying. You know damn well you ain't out of shit
Bradley is a little muhfucka. He's even shorter than Pac and he definitely isn't ready for the A list yet but he's the "next big thing" at welter (see Bradley thread).
He also said he weighed 148 in the postfight interview. Why would he sacrifice his greatest asset? The point of going up shouldn't be just to do it. Only stupid fighters, and there have been many, go up at the expense of their best weapons and the traits that make them special.
That's not what I said. All fighters have heart and courage or else they wouldn't engage in a sport where you can die in any fight but it's not deniable Foreman was the undisputed champion and the hottest shit happening in the sport, thereby the biggest attraction. Plus that wasn't the original gameplan going in, he made a mental adjustment in the ring. It's not like he walked in a laid on the ropes.
I would never give you a sip. I can tell a Hoover when I see one
Ok you have some valid points. Now give it up nicca, I know you got some!!!
Oh shit, I sound like my uncle.Hey, I love defense as much as the next man, but people just don't remember defensive specialists like they do pure action guys. Unless their name is Willie Pep or Sweet P. Whitaker that is.
We'll see in the ring, Floyd is going to look alot bigger than Manny, either way, it's still a legit Jr. Welter fighting a legit Welter. Manny can barely make 142-143.
Floyd can fight P.Will at 150, I don't really mind catchweights unless there is a championship involved, then it really pisses me off. There is no such thing as a catchweight World Title.
Or people would also see it as "Williams was never the same fighter after Floyd got done with him" which also carries alot of weight. P.Will has some pretty good names on his resume already for a guy no one wants a part of.
And a couple questions: Why exactly is nobody talking about Paul Williams trying to run down to Welter when so many people(myself included, I had it even) think he was given a gift against Sergio and winning a rematch decisively has so many benefits? I mean that was my fight of the year, to me, and many other people. Why's he acting like it's case closed? He also needs to rematch with Kermit, as he was having some pretty serious problems dodging Cintron's right hand in that match until the "incident". Day off, time to see if my bud is finally dry and hit up the liquor store - ONE.
Oh and I have no problem with Floyd making money, I've stated that MANY times. But he could make just as much giving the people what they want. Past cats have proven that.
Ok you have some valid points. Now give it up nicca, I know you got some!!!
You sound like My uncle
Perry? That chu?Now there was a good boxer in his day. Drugs and crime fucked him up in the 80s but that's another story.
And who outside of us really remembers Sweet P? Pep was a star back when boxing was as big as baseball and bigger than football and basketball so he's got some residual star power from that.
Man, you know Manny's a solid 146-147. That's another reason Cotto was stupid to come down to 145 when Pac later fought Clottey at 147.
Floyd can fight P.Will at 150, I don't really mind catchweights unless there is a championship involved, then it really pisses me off. There is no such thing as a catchweight World Title.
Agreed.Floyd wouldn't beat him up like that. It would take a Margarito-Cotto beating for people to say that. It would be considered more of Paul Williams being exposed than a great victory for Floyd Mayweather (like we don't already know defensive counterpunchers are P's kryptonite).
And a couple questions: Why exactly is nobody talking about Paul Williams trying to run down to Welter when so many people(myself included, I had it even) think he was given a gift against Sergio and winning a rematch decisively has so many benefits? I mean that was my fight of the year, to me, and many other people. Why's he acting like it's case closed? He also needs to rematch with Kermit, as he was having some pretty serious problems dodging Cintron's right hand in that match until the "incident". Day off, time to see if my bud is finally dry and hit up the liquor store - ONE.
All good questions. No one wanted to fight Williams or Martinez and they gave each other great opponents that people would pay to see them fight. They could be a Gatti-Ward except at a higher level and for the middleweight title (thanks Kelly for adding something else to this potential fight by sucking). I haven't heard anything about them fighting this year. Maybe if Williams had beaten Cintron more decisively, I don't know. Cintron is owed another fight too. I see him fighting Martinez first since he has the middleweight title but I want them to hurry up.
I'm not saying you do. But I don't think there's been as much money in some fights a lot of people wanted compared to the fights he had.
You sound like My uncle
Now there was a good boxer in his day. Drugs and crime fucked him up in the 80s but that's another story.
And who outside of us really remembers Sweet P? Pep was a star back when boxing was as big as baseball and bigger than football and basketball so he's got some residual star power from that.
Man, you know Manny's a solid 146-147. That's another reason Cotto was stupid to come down to 145 when Pac later fought Clottey at 147.
Floyd wouldn't beat him up like that. It would take a Margarito-Cotto beating for people to say that. It would be considered more of Paul Williams being exposed than a great victory for Floyd Mayweather (like we don't already know defensive counterpunchers are P's kryptonite).
All good questions. No one wanted to fight Williams or Martinez and they gave each other great opponents that people would pay to see them fight. They could be a Gatti-Ward except at a higher level and for the middleweight title (thanks Kelly for adding something else to this potential fight by sucking). I haven't heard anything about them fighting this year. Maybe if Williams had beaten Cintron more decisively, I don't know. Cintron is owed another fight too. I see him fighting Martinez first since he has the middleweight title but I want them to hurry up.
I'm not saying you do. But I don't think there's been as much money in some fights a lot of people wanted compared to the fights he had.
If he fought more than once a year it would be possible to keep the fans and his pockets happy.
As far as him fighting P.Will, I can really see Floyd making Paul look super bad(and not in a good way). Martinez used angles and speed and solid counterpunching to make Paul look foolish at times. I think Floyd could do it even better. First there isn't Floyd type of money in it for him and secondly, it's a risk I just don't think he's willing to take. But it's a fight I really think he could win big. Boxing's p4p taking on a mofo built like a Boeing and embarassing him? Throw in even a flash knockdown while Paul is rushing in and Floyd would win over more than half his haters pretty much overnight.
And I'll concede that Manny is growing into a legit welter, he weighed in at 145 for the Clottey fight. He should weigh in at about 146-147. Unless he's really gonna go up to superwelter to fight Cotto. Which I think is just Arum blowing smoke, I think the fight he wants is MArgarito/Pacman.
Sorry to hear about your uncle, mine disappeared in the late 80's (same here, crime and drugs) and hasn't been heard from since, heavy influence on me in terms of boxing.
Totally.
As far as him fighting P.Will, I can really see Floyd making Paul look super bad(and not in a good way). Martinez used angles and speed and solid counterpunching to make Paul look foolish at times. I think Floyd could do it even better. First there isn't Floyd type of money in it for him and secondly, it's a risk I just don't think he's willing to take. But it's a fight I really think he could win big. Boxing's p4p taking on a mofo built like a Boeing and embarassing him? Throw in even a flash knockdown while Paul is rushing in and Floyd would win over more than half his haters pretty much overnight.
I don't know about more than half but that bandwagon would have a lot more space on it.
I know I've told you I thought Williams, with his reach, height, chin and activity, had the skillset to beat Mayweather at one point. But then came the Quintana fight. Then the Martinez fight and now I wouldn't bet on Williams with Alaskaredman's money. We always say styles make fights and everything Floyd does right is the shit that fucks with Williams. If I'm Paul, I still want that fight and the double digit million dollar payday (no less than 8 mill)but I'd have a rebound fight in the ready. Alfredo Angulo would be on my speeddial.
I think he wants Margarito/Pac so bad, it keeps him up at night. He'll settle for Cotto but I'd expect chicanery in some fashion to fuck Miguel again. Manny looks like he's topped out at welterweight too.
Mine fell off, bounced back, fell off again but seems to have it together again.
Uncles are something, aren't they?
Mine fell off, bounced back, fell off again but seems to have it together again.
Uncles are something, aren't they?
Yeah man, my youngest uncle is only about 10 years older than me and still tries to gut-check me every time he sees me. Then he MAKES me punch him in his huge hard-ass gut. "Ahh you see that, shit is like concrete boy, you need to get your weight up boy".
Yeah man, my youngest uncle is only about 10 years older than me and still tries to gut-check me every time he sees me. Then he MAKES me punch him in his huge hard-ass gut. "Ahh you see that, shit is like concrete boy, you need to get your weight up boy".
Mine got over that shit a long time ago. Now when he was fucked up, he thought he wanted to fight my brother and his homeboy and both of them niggas was over 250 lbs, under 21 and played football while he was over 40, under 6' and 155 lbs. And he was going to fight them at the same time.
Mine got over that shit a long time ago. Now when he was fucked up, he thought he wanted to fight my brother and his homeboy and both of them niggas was over 250 lbs, under 21 and played football while he was over 40, under 6' and 155 lbs. And he was going to fight them at the same time.
What cracks me up is this nicca tellin me to get my weight up and I'm 6'3" 213. He's 5'10" and weighs about 10 more pounds than me and acts like he's the much bigger man. Uncles definitely ARE a trip.