***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2010

[agentnupe]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

That's because his company's stock was about to take a huge drop in value.

Somebody needs to find a photo/gif of Dana White's face after the fight when they were putting the belt around Cain's waist.

He had this look of disgust and disbelief like he just walked in on somebody fucking the shit out his wife

 

[Tw1sT]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

 

["THE MAN"]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

I'm not hating on Cain at all. I really could care less about the race of either fighter. I'm just looking at this from a business perspective. While Cain "might" open up the market for mexicans and hispanics, I just think that the UFC as whole will lose that crossover appeal without Brock as the champ. Brock's last two performances leave serious questions about his legitimacy as a MMA fighter.

I see what you saying. But their only competition is Strikeforce and Boxing lol so they can only go up. Just gotta keep the cards stacked and quit having good cards then a bad one back and forth. I think now is a good time to set up more UFC gyms around the country. A lot of people want to fight so why not see who has what it takes. The racist white guys won't support Cain but hopefully true fight fans outnumber them.

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

I can only imagine how stormfront.org is taking this.

 

[gene cisco]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Brock indeed got his ass whipped but I honestly think he isn't the same man after he got sick. Same shit almost happened against Carwin. I honestly believe that sickness fucked Lesnar up more than he wants to believe.

Cain/Dos Santos should be a good fight. Dana might do Lesnar/Mir face winner of Carwin/Nelson for future title shot.

I agree. A person that size doesn't come back from dropping all that weight and being at deaths door that damn quickly.

They keep raving about how he doesn't have to cut weight anymore, but I wonder how much strength and power he lost.

 

[P03t]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Somebody needs to find a photo/gif of Dana White's face after the fight when they were putting the belt around Cain's waist.

He had this look of disgust and disbelief like he just walked in on somebody fucking the shit out his wife

you know he was upset....

 

[superfusion]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Brock needs to take a year off and work on his boxing, because his standup is horrible. If Cain doesn't lose to Dos Santos Mir might have a shot, but other than that I don't see anyone beating him. You gotta have cardio, standup, ground game, and a good chin to beat Cain that's my opinion.

 

[Duffle_Bag]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Thank you

 

[MacNeverSlip]

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[Chuckles]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Yeah, that seems to be the case. Good American wrestlers with hands give him a world of trouble. Seen it with shane and now cain.

People forgetting about shane, I wonder if Cain could make it out the first if Shane laid hands on him.

I don't think Cain would stand and trade with Shane just stick and move and tire him out.

 

["THE MAN"]

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I can only imagine how stormfront.org is taking this.

"The spic won? Cheating n****r ref!"

Good time to be a fight fan. Waiting for Shogun to return and to see Silva/Belfort, Cain/JDS and hopefully Cain/Shane. GSP unfortunately will have no one to face for a while because Shields looked terrible.

WOW! They over there talking about conspiracy theories and everything. Sad. We have more sense than them so please leave the racism out of it over here.

 

[PinoNica.]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Bboy Lesnar.

 

[agentnupe]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

I keep seeing posts about Frank Mir....this guy is TERRIBLE!!!!!
He freaking lost to Brandon Vera, that's right I said Brandon Vera a damn light heaveyweight. He got beat to a pulp by Shane Carwin and Brock Lesnar. Then he had an awful fight with Crop Cop where he didn't want to get hit. Frank Mir is done.

 

[BRUHA]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

"The spic won? Cheating n****r ref!"

Good time to be a fight fan. Waiting for Shogun to return and to see Silva/Belfort, Cain/JDS and hopefully Cain/Shane. GSP unfortunately will have no one to face for a while because Shields looked terrible.

You are right sir...it's a great time to be a fight fan. I am waiting for my boy Jon "Bones" Jones to get a title shot. I want to see him fight some really serious competition like Rashad Evans.

 

[drewdog7373]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Brock needs to take a year off and work on his boxing, because his standup is horrible. If Cain doesn't lose to Dos Santos Mir might have a shot, but other than that I don't see anyone beating him. You gotta have cardio, standup, ground game, and a good chin to beat Cain that's my opinion.

Not only boxing, add muay thai and some bjj. He was a good champion great athlete but athletism will only take you so far.

 

[ScorpDiesel]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Shit was fuckin' disappointing. In the first round? Really?

 

[Johnny_2_Clips]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

I agree. A person that size doesn't come back from dropping all that weight and being at deaths door that damn quickly.

They keep raving about how he doesn't have to cut weight anymore, but I wonder how much strength and power he lost.

I remember one of his coaches saying it was a 7 month road from the day he started training again to his fight with Carwin. For a man that almost died from a serious sickness, it's common sense that you'll need more time than 5 months to heal and start training again.

I honestly think Dana White told his ass if he doesn't fight, then that belt is going to someone who will. Not making excuses for the man but looking at him when he fought Mir a second time to his fight with Carwin, to tonight's fight. He has lost alot of weight and mass, that type of shit can always linger in your life like to many knee/neck/back injuries...

 

[r3d DaWn]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Didn't see Brock losing, but it's win win for me either way! First Mexican American Champion in that divison, and Brock will be back, he needs a LOT more coaching, must remember he is a virgin in this game, but he didn't tap out, so I still have respect for him, and with all he has been through, he still deserves much pats on the back for it. Now how long can Cain hold the title, and how long will that nasty cut take to heal for Brock are the questions.. One thing is for sure though, even though I'm latin, I know the UFC is going to lose out on money with Cain now as the champ, people pay to see that beast that is Brock fight, doubt they will pay as much or come in droves, with Cain, oh well..

 

[Ming Fei Hong]

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["THE MAN"]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Somebody PLEASE post this on stormfront. We have their trolls them so we have to have our own right?

 

[richlove]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

I keep seeing posts about Frank Mir....this guy is TERRIBLE!!!!!
He freaking lost to Brandon Vera, that's right I said Brandon Vera a damn light heaveyweight. He got beat to a pulp by Shane Carwin and Brock Lesnar. Then he had an awful fight with Crop Cop where he didn't want to get hit. Frank Mir is done.

Mir is from the age where he was the only big guy around that knew how to grab legs and arms. The influx of wrestlers that easily learn how to stay out of that shit has rendered him useless. Unfortunately for Dana the UFC heavyweight division has reached its peak for a while. JDS aint gonna be able to do shit with that wrestling or pace of Cain. Although it would take a gun to KO Brock..a TKO is there all day long because his tractor sized torso is his main weapon and people just don't understand that you can either box or you can't and Brock will always suck. His camp got exposed tonight for lack of prep and riding on Brocks speed and power all the way to the bank. Brock is gonna have to leave that fucking farm and stop paying yes men.

 

[johniz]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Yea Frank Mir and Cain Velasquez. That would be awesome.

Huh? That fight sucks. Cain wins easily IMO.

Now DOs Santos being taken down .. who has done that in the UFC?

I admit if it goes to the ground Cain may win it by griunding Junior or submitting him (his only MMA loss). But I am interested to see if Cain can keep him down.

 

[Tw1sT]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

 

["THE MAN"]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

See you in 2012 Brock

 

[P03t]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Mir is from the age where he was the only big guy around that knew how to grab legs and arms. The influx of wrestlers that easily learn how to stay out of that shit has rendered him useless. Unfortunately for Dana the UFC heavyweight division has reached its peak for a while. JDS aint gonna be able to do shit with that wrestling or pace of Cain. Although it would take a gun to KO Brock..a TKO is there all day long because his tractor sized torso is his main weapon and people just don't understand that you can either box or you can't and Brock will always suck. His camp got exposed tonight for lack of prep and riding on Brocks speed and power all the way to the bank. Brock is gonna have to leave that fucking farm and stop paying yes men.

Brock needs Greg Jackson....

 

[richlove]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Yeah, that seems to be the case. Good American wrestlers with hands give him a world of trouble. Seen it with shane and now cain.

People forgetting about shane, I wonder if Cain could make it out the first if Shane laid hands on him.

Cain will make easy work of Shane. I like Shane, but he plays the same power game that Brock plays. When these dudes are not overwhelming muthafuckas with their power they are lost. Does anybody here know shit about wrestling? Because Brock is supposed to be top of the food chain, but first round he couldn't do shit with Carwin and he had nothing for Cain either. Was he just so much bigger than dudes he went against? Because if his technique was as intense as his horsepower he should be able to keep Jesus on the ground.

 

[Deltronz]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Brock indeed got his ass whipped but I honestly think he isn't the same man after he got sick. Same shit almost happened against Carwin. I honestly believe that sickness fucked Lesnar up more than he wants to believe.

That couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, his doctors from last year stated that Brock had been fighting at 80% since he entered UFC. He was at 100% since the Carwin fight. No excuses, Cain beat him and Carwin really should've gotten the win decision last fight.

 

[ajamelh07]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Brock needs Greg Jackson....

Yeah it is time to leave the Deathclutch gym and go elsewhere.

 

[richlove]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Brock needs Greg Jackson....

Most likely. I think the only types he can't help reach the very top are the Leonard Garcias and Keith Jardins of the world. But if he gets a hold of Brock I think Brock would stay in the top three. The HW division is really crappy if people look and break it down.

 

[therealjondoe]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

just got back.
i watched at the movie theater on the big screen.
that shit was pimp as hell.
hell of a card.
all the fights were exciting.

 

[richlove]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Just google search Dana White and Mexico and see what i'm talking about.

People will pay to see domination. He is now the guy that took Big Brock to the woodshed. Add to the fact that he is Mexican American and he could talk less than Fedor. His selling point is that he continues to throw punches and doesn't stall out..and that is what slows down the expansion of the UFC. Cain doesn't stop and just like Manny in boxing it will pay off if he continues to win. He doesn't have to worry about big black dudes coming to takeover because no way in hell they are passing up NFL and NBA contracts for this shit even with a percentage of the ppv. Plus I am part of a gym and that shit is expensive as hell.

 

[richlove]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Just google search Dana White and Mexico and see what i'm talking about.

just got back.
i watched at the movie theater on the big screen.
that shit was pimp as hell.
hell of a card.
all the fights were exciting.

Yeah, I watched it at the movies too and that fucking Star Wars commercial in extreme HD had me as hyped as the fights and I don't even have a game console of any type

 

[therealjondoe]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Yeah, I watched it at the movies too and that fucking Star Wars commercial in extreme HD had me as hyped as the fights and I don't even have a game console of any type

yo seeing ufc on the big screen,man i was into that shit

shit is intense in the theater
i definatly recommend watching it there.

 

[johniz]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

People will pay to see domination. He is now the guy that took Big Brock to the woodshed. Add to the fact that he is Mexican American and he could talk less than Fedor. His selling point is that he continues to throw punches and doesn't stall out..and that is what slows down the expansion of the UFC. Cain doesn't stop and just like Manny in boxing it will pay off if he continues to win. He doesn't have to worry about big black dudes coming to takeover because no way in hell they are passing up NFL and NBA contracts for this shit even with a percentage of the ppv. Plus I am part of a gym and that shit is expensive as hell.

Dana will prob follow the blueprint to GB PRomotions and Bob Arum to market to the Mexican fanbase.

 

[P03t]

Re: ***** OFFICIAL UFC 121 THREAD ~ Brock Lesnar Vs. Cain Velasquez ~ October 23rd, 2

Yeah it is time to leave the Deathclutch gym and go elsewhere.

Most likely. I think the only types he can't help reach the very top are the Leonard Garcias and Keith Jardins of the world. But if he gets a hold of Brock I think Brock would stay in the top three. The HW division is really crappy if people look and break it down.

Jackson will make Brock a better wrestler when it comes to MMA....he does well with wrestlers...and he has good gameplans....

Brock's striking will be his down fall....he doesn't like to get hit....

Viking....No...