Official STAR WARS:THE FORCE AWAKENS discussion thread

Also Ren is fighting his nature.
In the prayer scene to Vader he says
"The call to the light, Supreme Leader senses it. Show me again, the power of the darkness and I will let nothing stand in our way. Show me, grandfather and I will finish what you started."

That's just classic man.

He's wrapped up in some shit.
His grand father was good on track to be the best jedi and ended up being the best dark sidean.
His momma is good her brother is good his dad is good overall but got some get over in him.
So he has good and bad. It took thinking his wife was dead as well as his children were dead to get Vader to that 0 threshold.
Ren actually KILLED his dad to try and get him to the threshold. Consider how much worse that is?
 
Yeah but now Im wondering if he misunderstood Finn just like the rest of us did. When I rewatch the movie, it makes total sense now.

Cleanse.

Sanitize.

Like flamethrowing a village and shooting everybody down to death.

He literally couldn't do the very thing he was trained to do.


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The Jakku village scene at the beginning of the film was his first and only mission. Finn worked as a sanitation on Starkiller base, he even said so. It's all in the film, there's no double meaning. He wasn't a sanitation expert in the sense of sanitizing/clearing out people who were in the way of the First Order. He was a space janitor.
 
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I watched it again and have changed my opinion of the film for the most part. I still hold some reservations overall, but if it goes down the path I am now thinking, this ish might be classic. Alot depends on the next movies obviously.

Now..the things that I have a different opinion on.

I am a little more optimistic that Finn may be force sensitive. But I'm still not holding my breathe, I could be reaching. Reasons being:

When Finn snapped from his Storm Trooper protocol he immediately appeared on Kylo Ren's radar. Not only did Kylo look at him before he boarded his ship. He also immediately knew it was Finn who escaped with Poe. Also, in the early conversation with Snoke and Ren..they made it clear that their fear was if Luke ever were to return, he would raise up a new generation of Jedi. Later, one of Kylo Ren's men alerted Ren that the BB8 droid ended up with Finn...That is when Kylo Ren went off! then..they interrupted Ren's tantrum and told him a girl was with Finn as well. That's when he choked dude out..but remember, Ren went off before he even knew a girl was with them.
The last reason, when Ren told Snoke he felt an awakening and Snoke said he felt it as well, they had not encountered Rey's character yet. Once Kylo later captured Rey, he did not realize she was Force sensitive until he tried to read her mind. Remember Snoke could not believe she could resist Ren and mocked him for it, that's when Ren told Snoke that Rey was strong with the force but untrained. They almost seemed surprised by this, but earlier they said they felt an awakening. Its possible the awakening they felt was Finn..or the combination of Rey and Finn..remember, their fear is Luke raising a generation of Jedi.

As far as the rest of the movie. I'm still hoping Snoke is Plagues...which would be dope. But I did hear Abrahms or someone squashed that rumor...Anyway...hopefully he's lying. Cause if Snoke is Plaugus, then maybe he is planning to possess the body of Kylo Ren or Rey, the offspring of his own creation..Annakin Skywalker. Maybe Kylo Ren's call to the light is Annakin trying to warn him. Also, if Snoke posses Ren's body, he would instantly be a bad ass and a formidable foe. Not some whiny chump that Kylo ended up being.

I believe Rey was certainly trained though and may have either been mindwiped, but more likely her memories suppressed due to trauma. In that flashback, it appears she is wearing the little Jedi padwan gear as a little girl...and she may have witness the Knights of Ren wipe out the Jedi in training. That ship leaving may have been Luke, but could have also been her Mother. There is no way she should whip Rens ass like that otherwise. The other possibility is she also is conceived by the Force...but I hope not.

Just saw this Fan Theory that fleshed out some of my observations about Finn...that being the Force awaking was really/initially about Finn.

It also brought up a theory about Mace Windu being Snoke, which sounds crazy at first until he breaks it down. But I'm certain Finn is force sensitive. I wanted Snoke to be Plaugus, but if Snoke is Windu, that would be dope!

 
and yall were really trying to play him?
really?
he ain't even scratch the surface and look at what the fuck he was doing

Like i said all in this thread wait till his fucks hit 0

 
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