They not as exciting to talk about, lol.
But yeah, they're going to have many problems this year. Will likely win 50, but lose often to top teams.
Official NBA 2016-2017 Thread - 30 teams, 1 goal. 2 weeks left, so much can happen!!
They not as exciting to talk about, lol.
But yeah, they're going to have many problems this year. Will likely win 50, but lose often to top teams.
it's all good just clowning around. i embrace it. im on the dark side no more wondering why equal and fair treatment isn't given. im over it.
Mavs need to make the call
Yeah, Embiid is definitely looking to be a good investment...
Rumor is, a 3 team deal with the Wizards, Suns and Sixers which would land Oak in Washington and John Wall in Philly. While I'd love to have Wall I think it's too early to move Oak...
No doubt but I've NEVER clowned Dudes complaining about not getting calls. I always try to look objectively from game to game, but Refs burning teams has never been funny to me... Still warm about that shit from tonight...
No doubt but I've NEVER clowned Dudes complaining about not getting calls. I always try to look objectively from game to game, but Refs burning teams has never been funny to me... Still warm about that shit from tonight...
you should be.
im mad my squad ain't really interested.
when they play hard they win. been that way forever. kerr needs to light a fire
Cavs should've played better, uncle Drew wasn't off on the offensive end...
Man oak holding that second unit down, plus with them injury probe ass bigs the better keep each one of them
Yep...
Harrison Barnes for Luc Bah Mote straigh up
Lol
Clippers D looking outstanding come on April
good win tonight.
Barnes is cool I guess
He isn't a foundation player to me tho cuz he can't create his own shot
Every time I watch Deron Williams play I get pissed off. Cuz he used to be so cold. And we get this version
Goaltending?
Oh yeah that's that bullshit rule where you can't pin the ball against the backboard right?
You can pin the ball against the backboard, you just can touch the ball once it hits the backboard
The Nuggets have been on the come up for the past 40 years
Lakers had titles before Kobe, before Shaq, before Magic, before Kareem
That's cool. They ain't about to do shit now though. Both teams are on the same level. We'll see who come up first.
This Shit just don't stop
Pelicans' Lance Stephenson out indefinitely with groin injury
The New Orleans Pelicans' manpower crisis worsened late Saturday, when the team announced that guard Lance Stephenson had suffered a groin injury that will require surgery.
Already without its top two perimeter players,Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans, and off to an 0-6 start, New Orleans has lost Stephenson indefinitely after an MRI exam Saturday confirmed the need for surgery.
Holiday is out indefinitely to help nurse his wife, former U.S. women's soccer star Lauren Holiday, through her recovery from an operation to remove a brain tumor last month. Evans has yet to play this season as he continues to recover from February knee surgery. Quincy Pondexter is yet another Pelicans guard who has yet to play this season as he recovers from multiple knee surgeries.
Because of all the injuries, New Orleans is expected to apply for a hardship waiver that would allow the Pelicans to temporarily add a 16th player to the roster in coming days.
Stephenson has averaged 9.7 points, 4.8 assists and 3.3 rebounds in 27.0 minutes per game through the Pelicans' winless start.
Pelicans' Lance Stephenson out indefinitely with groin injury
The New Orleans Pelicans' manpower crisis worsened late Saturday, when the team announced that guard Lance Stephenson had suffered a groin injury that will require surgery.
Already without its top two perimeter players,Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans, and off to an 0-6 start, New Orleans has lost Stephenson indefinitely after an MRI exam Saturday confirmed the need for surgery.
Holiday is out indefinitely to help nurse his wife, former U.S. women's soccer star Lauren Holiday, through her recovery from an operation to remove a brain tumor last month. Evans has yet to play this season as he continues to recover from February knee surgery. Quincy Pondexter is yet another Pelicans guard who has yet to play this season as he recovers from multiple knee surgeries.
Because of all the injuries, New Orleans is expected to apply for a hardship waiver that would allow the Pelicans to temporarily add a 16th player to the roster in coming days.
Stephenson has averaged 9.7 points, 4.8 assists and 3.3 rebounds in 27.0 minutes per game through the Pelicans' winless start.
Cavs players feel shooting effects of Joe Biden motorcade-caused delay
PHILADELPHIA -- Election season in the swing state of Pennsylvania got the best of the Cleveland Cavaliers on Saturday, when a motorcade believed to be escorting Vice President Joe Biden from a Hillary Clinton rally in nearby Bucks County caused some of the team to be delayed on its way to its game against the 76ers.
After their bus was stopped for more than 20 minutes waiting for the motorcade to pass,Kyrie Irving, J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpertleft it along with team security personnel and hopped in an Uber to finish their trip to the Wells Fargo Center.
They arrived approximately 65 minutes before tipoff.
Cavs general manager David Griffin told ESPN.com that the bus, which eventually got to the arena nearly simultaneously with the Uber, arrived about 35 minutes later than expected because of the VP's vehicles.
"My whole warm-up's jacked," Shumpert told a team staffer. "I'm going to have an attitude. Better not get fouled hard tonight."
NBA teams typically have an early bus that leaves the team hotel for the arena and is filled with either younger players looking to work on their games or veterans at the end of the bench who aren't expecting to play significant minutes. A second bus typically leaves the hotel 30 to 45 minutes later.
"I'm never taking the second bus again," Irving said as he hastily changed into his uniform in the locker room.
The 6-0 Cavs managed to stay unbeaten, but it wasn't easy, as they edged the winless Sixers 102-101. Irving was held to a season-low eight points on 3-of-17 shooting. Smith scored 11, and Shumpert had seven.
Despite Irving's shooting contributing to Cleveland coughing up an 18-point lead and then some, as it trailed by five with 3:54 remaining in the fourth quarter, Cavs coach Tyronn Lue complimented his point guard for how he persevered.
"Kyrie didn't have it going offensively. I think with the vice president being in town, him not being able to get shots up before the game might have thrown his rhythm off a little bit," Lue said. "But making two of the biggest defensive plays, taking a charge and deflection off [Sergio] Rodriguez's leg [was huge]."
Irving said his pregame shooting routine was cut from 20 minutes down to nine minutes because of the delay.
"A lot more shots in the gym are coming pretty soon, which I'm looking forward to," Irving said. "You come in shooting pretty well, feeling pretty confident, feel like I've got a routine going, and then it kind of gets messed up."
Smith, who shot 3-for-7 for the game, said he had to eschew his pregame stretching before he took practice shots and understood the struggles Irving experienced.
"It definitely has an effect," Smith said of the unexpected circuitous route to the arena. "Especially on somebody like Ky who is very routine-oriented. He sticks to his routine no matter what and he wasn't able to go out there and shoot the ball like he normally does in pregame. Normally it's me and him on the court and he goes through his routine and he wasn't able to do that, so I think that had a lot to do with him."
PHILADELPHIA -- Election season in the swing state of Pennsylvania got the best of the Cleveland Cavaliers on Saturday, when a motorcade believed to be escorting Vice President Joe Biden from a Hillary Clinton rally in nearby Bucks County caused some of the team to be delayed on its way to its game against the 76ers.
After their bus was stopped for more than 20 minutes waiting for the motorcade to pass,Kyrie Irving, J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpertleft it along with team security personnel and hopped in an Uber to finish their trip to the Wells Fargo Center.
They arrived approximately 65 minutes before tipoff.
Cavs general manager David Griffin told ESPN.com that the bus, which eventually got to the arena nearly simultaneously with the Uber, arrived about 35 minutes later than expected because of the VP's vehicles.
"My whole warm-up's jacked," Shumpert told a team staffer. "I'm going to have an attitude. Better not get fouled hard tonight."
NBA teams typically have an early bus that leaves the team hotel for the arena and is filled with either younger players looking to work on their games or veterans at the end of the bench who aren't expecting to play significant minutes. A second bus typically leaves the hotel 30 to 45 minutes later.
"I'm never taking the second bus again," Irving said as he hastily changed into his uniform in the locker room.
The 6-0 Cavs managed to stay unbeaten, but it wasn't easy, as they edged the winless Sixers 102-101. Irving was held to a season-low eight points on 3-of-17 shooting. Smith scored 11, and Shumpert had seven.
Despite Irving's shooting contributing to Cleveland coughing up an 18-point lead and then some, as it trailed by five with 3:54 remaining in the fourth quarter, Cavs coach Tyronn Lue complimented his point guard for how he persevered.
"Kyrie didn't have it going offensively. I think with the vice president being in town, him not being able to get shots up before the game might have thrown his rhythm off a little bit," Lue said. "But making two of the biggest defensive plays, taking a charge and deflection off [Sergio] Rodriguez's leg [was huge]."
Irving said his pregame shooting routine was cut from 20 minutes down to nine minutes because of the delay.
"A lot more shots in the gym are coming pretty soon, which I'm looking forward to," Irving said. "You come in shooting pretty well, feeling pretty confident, feel like I've got a routine going, and then it kind of gets messed up."
Smith, who shot 3-for-7 for the game, said he had to eschew his pregame stretching before he took practice shots and understood the struggles Irving experienced.
"It definitely has an effect," Smith said of the unexpected circuitous route to the arena. "Especially on somebody like Ky who is very routine-oriented. He sticks to his routine no matter what and he wasn't able to go out there and shoot the ball like he normally does in pregame. Normally it's me and him on the court and he goes through his routine and he wasn't able to do that, so I think that had a lot to do with him."
Spurs welcome four-day rest after 24-point shellacking at home
SAN ANTONIO -- Excuses didn't slip off tongues in the locker room when San Antonio’s players explained a 116-92 lossSaturday to the Los Angeles Clippers, theSpurs' largest defeat in the 160-game history of the series between the teams.
“Awful game,” guard Manu Ginobili said. “They killed us in every aspect.”
The team’s early schedule served as an accomplice to murder, considering that the Spurs played seven games in the first 12 nights to start their 2016-17 campaign, including four on the road: at Golden State, Sacramento, Miami and Utah.
In fact, in just the first week of the season, Spurs coach Gregg Popovich restedLaMarcus Aldridge for the team’s 106-99 win over the Miami Heat on Oct. 30, a day after he sat Ginobili and point guard Tony Parker. In the first five games of each season since Popovich’s first full season as head coach (1997-98), there has been only one real instance of the coach sitting a notable contributor so early, according to ESPN Stats & Information. On Nov. 6, 2014, Popovich rested Ginobili and Tim Duncan in San Antonio’s fourth outing of the year. The result: a 98-81 loss at Houston.
Popovich explained last week that the decision to rest Aldridge and Parker so early in the season stemmed from both players' experiencing minor knee soreness. Parker is expected to miss another week as he lets the pain in his right knee subside. Starting guardDanny Green hasn’t yet made his 2016-17 debut due to a quadriceps strain aggravated a week before the Oct. 25 opener at Golden State.
As such, Popovich expects this upcoming four-day break in the action to do the Spurs some good before Wednesday, when they host the Rockets.
“It’s a good thing for us,” Popovich said. “Considering the schedule that we just had, it’s a good thing. We need some time. We need some rest.”
The Spurs need to figure out a way to start much more quickly at home. Led by Blake Griffin, who poured in a game-high 28 points, including 26 before intermission, the Clippers reeled off 73 first-half points. Los Angeles’ first-half output ranked as the most scored in the first half against the Spurs in the Popovich era.
“Blake was great, but their whole team beat us soundly, embarrassingly,” Popovich said. “They were terrific.”
San Antonio started out that way, at least. The Spurs scored the first eight points of the game before falling behind 17 points in the first quarter on a Griffin step-back jumper to make the score 32-15 with 2:03 remaining.
“The fact of it is we’ve had a couple of slow starts at home, and the first team has to be responsible to set the tone early and not let this happen,” said center Pau Gasol, who contributed 11 points and four rebounds. “You can say fatigue may kick in during the fourth quarter when there’s six minutes left. But you start out the game, and we have to come out more aggressive and be more accountable and responsible for stronger starts, especially on our home court.”
Added Ginobili: “When they give you 20 points like that, on a game where you’re coming from a long trip like that, it’s hard to find that type of energy to overcome a 20-point deficit. We made too many mistakes in the first half.”
Los Angeles carried a 73-55 lead into intermission and outscored the Spurs 26-10 in the paint, in addition to netting 21 points off nine San Antonio turnovers. The Spurs, meanwhile, managed to force only one turnover for two points.
Despite the slow start, San Antonio managed to pull to within six points in the second quarter on a Jonathon Simmons dunk. That was as close as the home team got.
San Antonio didn’t match the 73 points the Clippers rolled up in the first half until the 11:15 mark of the final quarter, when Nicolas Laprovittola drove to hit a layup that made the score 91-74.
Still, the Spurs refuse to point to fatigue as a factor. After all, the Clippers were playing their fifth game of the week, including the past two on the road.
“We were coming off a back-to-back, but so were they, so don’t want to blame it on that,” forward/center David Lee said. “We’re aware of the number of games and the amount of travel we’ve had. But we’re NBA players and need to find a way through that. We just didn’t execute at either end with a level of crispness that we did last night in Utah to get a tough road win. We weren’t as sharp tonight as we could have been.”
San Antonio racked up a 40-1 record on its home court last season on the way to capturing a franchise-record 67 victories. The Spurs have already dropped two in a row at the AT&T Center, which marks the first time since December 2014 that the team lost two in a row at home during the regular season.
“You always want to win for your home crowd, but a loss is a loss,” said Spurs forward Kawhi Leonard, who chipped in 14 points on 3-of-13 shooting with six rebounds. “We feel like we gave two away. But we’ve just got to learn from our mistakes."
Leonard said that after a loss such as Saturday’s, “for sure, you want to play” immediately to bounce back. But given the current state of the Spurs, Leonard, like Popovich, would be happy just to get a few days off before embarking on the next part of the schedule, which will include four outings in six nights. Luckily for San Antonio, three of those are at home.
“It’s good to have these rest days and get our bodies healthy,” Leonard said. “We’ll be prepared for Wednesday.”
SAN ANTONIO -- Excuses didn't slip off tongues in the locker room when San Antonio’s players explained a 116-92 lossSaturday to the Los Angeles Clippers, theSpurs' largest defeat in the 160-game history of the series between the teams.
“Awful game,” guard Manu Ginobili said. “They killed us in every aspect.”
The team’s early schedule served as an accomplice to murder, considering that the Spurs played seven games in the first 12 nights to start their 2016-17 campaign, including four on the road: at Golden State, Sacramento, Miami and Utah.
In fact, in just the first week of the season, Spurs coach Gregg Popovich restedLaMarcus Aldridge for the team’s 106-99 win over the Miami Heat on Oct. 30, a day after he sat Ginobili and point guard Tony Parker. In the first five games of each season since Popovich’s first full season as head coach (1997-98), there has been only one real instance of the coach sitting a notable contributor so early, according to ESPN Stats & Information. On Nov. 6, 2014, Popovich rested Ginobili and Tim Duncan in San Antonio’s fourth outing of the year. The result: a 98-81 loss at Houston.
Popovich explained last week that the decision to rest Aldridge and Parker so early in the season stemmed from both players' experiencing minor knee soreness. Parker is expected to miss another week as he lets the pain in his right knee subside. Starting guardDanny Green hasn’t yet made his 2016-17 debut due to a quadriceps strain aggravated a week before the Oct. 25 opener at Golden State.
As such, Popovich expects this upcoming four-day break in the action to do the Spurs some good before Wednesday, when they host the Rockets.
“It’s a good thing for us,” Popovich said. “Considering the schedule that we just had, it’s a good thing. We need some time. We need some rest.”
The Spurs need to figure out a way to start much more quickly at home. Led by Blake Griffin, who poured in a game-high 28 points, including 26 before intermission, the Clippers reeled off 73 first-half points. Los Angeles’ first-half output ranked as the most scored in the first half against the Spurs in the Popovich era.
“Blake was great, but their whole team beat us soundly, embarrassingly,” Popovich said. “They were terrific.”
San Antonio started out that way, at least. The Spurs scored the first eight points of the game before falling behind 17 points in the first quarter on a Griffin step-back jumper to make the score 32-15 with 2:03 remaining.
“The fact of it is we’ve had a couple of slow starts at home, and the first team has to be responsible to set the tone early and not let this happen,” said center Pau Gasol, who contributed 11 points and four rebounds. “You can say fatigue may kick in during the fourth quarter when there’s six minutes left. But you start out the game, and we have to come out more aggressive and be more accountable and responsible for stronger starts, especially on our home court.”
Added Ginobili: “When they give you 20 points like that, on a game where you’re coming from a long trip like that, it’s hard to find that type of energy to overcome a 20-point deficit. We made too many mistakes in the first half.”
Los Angeles carried a 73-55 lead into intermission and outscored the Spurs 26-10 in the paint, in addition to netting 21 points off nine San Antonio turnovers. The Spurs, meanwhile, managed to force only one turnover for two points.
Despite the slow start, San Antonio managed to pull to within six points in the second quarter on a Jonathon Simmons dunk. That was as close as the home team got.
San Antonio didn’t match the 73 points the Clippers rolled up in the first half until the 11:15 mark of the final quarter, when Nicolas Laprovittola drove to hit a layup that made the score 91-74.
Still, the Spurs refuse to point to fatigue as a factor. After all, the Clippers were playing their fifth game of the week, including the past two on the road.
“We were coming off a back-to-back, but so were they, so don’t want to blame it on that,” forward/center David Lee said. “We’re aware of the number of games and the amount of travel we’ve had. But we’re NBA players and need to find a way through that. We just didn’t execute at either end with a level of crispness that we did last night in Utah to get a tough road win. We weren’t as sharp tonight as we could have been.”
San Antonio racked up a 40-1 record on its home court last season on the way to capturing a franchise-record 67 victories. The Spurs have already dropped two in a row at the AT&T Center, which marks the first time since December 2014 that the team lost two in a row at home during the regular season.
“You always want to win for your home crowd, but a loss is a loss,” said Spurs forward Kawhi Leonard, who chipped in 14 points on 3-of-13 shooting with six rebounds. “We feel like we gave two away. But we’ve just got to learn from our mistakes."
Leonard said that after a loss such as Saturday’s, “for sure, you want to play” immediately to bounce back. But given the current state of the Spurs, Leonard, like Popovich, would be happy just to get a few days off before embarking on the next part of the schedule, which will include four outings in six nights. Luckily for San Antonio, three of those are at home.
“It’s good to have these rest days and get our bodies healthy,” Leonard said. “We’ll be prepared for Wednesday.”
Dwight hit him in the face. I had to watch it a couple times. Still a hell on a block.
People big up the Spurs, and they are a good team, but I think their prospects of coming out of the West is more of a function of who they've been then who they are. Looking at the makeup of that team, Their weak ass PG position could possibly be their undoing. With the explosive guard play in the west, I believe their PG lack will always offset any advantages they have in other areas. They may just have the weakest set of PGs in the league at this PG with Parker being a shell of who he used to be...
Which is crazy because that's an issue they been could addressed. Shoot, imagine if they would have worked will George Hill the way the worked with Parker. Hill probably would have been a better fit for this new squad.
They should have went after Westbrook when they had the chance. Their front court is nice, but doesn't make a damn if you done have a playmaker running the squad.
Well George hill was traded for Kwahi without Kwahi you lose the 5th chip and you don't have franchise player.
Along with them not having the money to pay George Hill, that's was the main reason for his departure. Pops spoke highly of dude, it seemed genuine.
YOU???
Them injuries did him in
Yep... the games starts with the playmakers Fam! It seems like they have always been plug and play in the backcourt, and Parker spoiled them but Father time is undefeated... Now, its gonna be difficult, because there are no difference makers on the market, and if they try to trade for one of the better guards which is a long shot, they will have to give up an important piece...
They wanted JR and was ready to pay if whatever. They looking for a gunner to go with those big bodies, shit they even contact Manu.
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