CHAOS ON THE WEST SIDE HIGHWAY: Wild pack of motorcycling madmen chase family in SUV,

[Lattimore]

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Dude you need to be logical. The driver stopped his vehicle only to be attacked by some thugs. Would you have stayed there after someone just opened your door with intention of doing harm. I doubt the driver had intentions of running someone over and possibly paralyzing them. He did like any sane person would have done. Get the fuck outta dodge. What may have happen before hand is irrelevant to what happen at that moment.

First, nowhere in the video did I see anyone open a door and try and get in his car and I haven't read any reports to support YOUR claim. This took place on the West Side HWY... in the middle of the day (very busy very public).

Second, what happened "before hand" is critically important and vitally relevant. What happened "before hand" will determine what happens to the driver with regards to using his truck like a loaded weapon and paralyzing a 26 year old man.

He did not do like any sane person would do... he panicked. His wife probably screaming... his baby probably crying... he, no doubt afraid, panicked. That's logic. Not making excuses for the guy, not eliminating his fear but illustrating that "logically" something preceded the initial incident... and it could have enough weight to shift blame.

 

[footloose]

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Man the dude in Rover did the right thing. Fuck those assholes.

better hope he can bring that range rover to jail wit him, that move was about 7 years minimum.

 

[BKF]

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First, nowhere in the video did I see anyone open a door and try and get in his car and I haven't read any reports to support YOUR claim. This took place on the West Side HWY... in the middle of the day (very busy very public).

Second, what happened "before hand" is critically important and vitally relevant. What happened "before hand" will determine what happens to the driver with regards to using his truck like a loaded weapon and paralyzing a 26 year old man.

He did not do like any sane person would do... he panicked. His wife probably screaming... his baby probably crying... he, no doubt afraid, panicked. That's logic. Not making excuses for the guy, not eliminating his fear but illustrating that "logically" something preceded the initial incident... and it could have enough weight to shift blame.

If you did not see someone open his door. Then you did not watch the video. What he may have done before hand is irrelevant because at the time he decided to flee. he was under attack. If he did not get out of dodge. then he would be beaten on the highway. He didn't know what their intention were other than they were hitting his car and open his door. Who's to say they wouldn't have done anything to his family. What sane person would stay there while under attack.

 

[footloose]

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If you did not see someone open his door. Then you did not watch the video. What he may have done before hand is irrelevant because at the time he decided to flee. he was under attack. If he did not get out of dodge. then he would be beaten on the highway. He didn't know what their intention were other than they were hitting his car and open his door. Who's to say they wouldn't have done anything to his family. What sane person would stay there while under attack.

ummm, at the end the family was left unharmed. only the madman behind the wheel got his ass beat

 

[Machete]

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Your an idiot. A rational person behind the wheel of a car does not use the car as a weapon. Nobody knows what happened before .23 so if your entire opinion hinges on the unknown than you- i'll say it again- are an idiot. Fact is whatever happened before .23 dude felt strongly enough to try and slow guy in the truck down. We also know that dude in the truck ran over a man and paralyzed him... with his infant child and wife in the car. I don't know what conclusions to draw without knowing the full story but its way to unclear to call anyone emotional... especially when someone will never walk again as a result.

Here is what we do see: the driver, rear ended the car AND stopped ... but you say he used the car as a weapon. But you, call ME the idiot.

We don't know what happened before the 23 second mark, yet you assume that SOMETHING happened. I didn't assume anything, but you call ME the idiot for making an assumption.

You assumed that something happened where the rider "felt strongly enough" to jump in front of the car. A motorcycle rider, with no protective gear on other than a helmet, jumps in front of a car. This is a rational move to you? You and the rider are morons. Your judgement must be shit; you probably married a woman with four baby fathers, thinking that now that you're in the picture she's saved. Fucking moron.

The one who jumped in front of him, deserved whatever happened to him. Watch the video. Did you see the driver indicate? Or, was the driver almost in the same lane as the car.

It's perfectly reasonable for me to call anyone in this thread who got on the driver homotional ( this includes you ).

What's shown in the video is clear: motorcycle purposefully jumps in front of the range rover. the car stops ( not the actions of someone who plans on using the car as a weapon ). the driver speeds off and keeps "running", obviously spooked. ( Also, check the other video posted in this thread. These fools do this regularly. Harassing drivers that is )

 

[BKF]

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ummm, at the end the family was left unharmed. only the madman behind the wheel got his ass beat

You are speaking in hindsight.

 

[Lattimore]

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If you did not see someone open his door. Then you did not watch the video. What he may have done before hand is irrelevant because at the time he decided to flee. he was under attack. If he did not get out of dodge. then he would be beaten on the highway. He didn't know what their intention were other than they were hitting his car and open his door. Who's to say they wouldn't have done anything to his family. What sane person would stay there while under attack.

I watched the video and you can't see anyone trying to open a door. What you do see is a lot of bikers-mostly on their bikes- around the truck. And I seriously doubt the door was unlocked. If the door was unlocked and opened you'd likely see it close as the truck lurches forward, but you don't.

And what happened before is relevant. Like the dude in Mcdonald's who beat the dykes ass with a metal pipe. If those chicks hadn't slapped someone moments before jumping over the counter to chase him it likely would have been a different scenario. Actions cause a reaction. Does the reaction warrant the initial action... if so the instigator is often responsible.

 

[Darrkman]

Dudes in here trying to make excuses for the bikers.

Maybe if some of you dudes would check your own when you know they're wrong maybe we wouldn't have so many knuckleheads now.

Sent from my Nexus 4

 

[footloose]

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You are speaking in hindsight.

the point is they went after the driver only, the one responsible, the driver went on a rampage and was willing to hit anyone, not jus the guy who stopped in front of his vehicle, not the guy who reached for the door, it appears even if your were just an observer he would have taken you out too. thats the action of a madman

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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Dudes in here trying to make excuses for the bikers.

Maybe if some of you dudes would check your own when you know they're wrong maybe we wouldn't have so many knuckleheads now.

Sent from my Nexus 4

The bikers were wrong for chasing dude and jumping on him but the driver of the SUV started this when he didn't have to. A simple move of taking his foot off his accelerator and the whole group would have passed him by and no one would have gotten hurt.

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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I watched the video and you can't see anyone trying to open a door. What you do see is a lot of bikers-mostly on their bikes- around the truck. And I seriously doubt the door was unlocked. If the door was unlocked and opened you'd likely see it close as the truck lurches forward, but you don't.

And what happened before is relevant. Like the dude in Mcdonald's who beat the dykes ass with a metal pipe. If those chicks hadn't slapped someone moments before jumping over the counter to chase him it likely would have been a different scenario. Actions cause a reaction. Does the reaction warrant the initial action... if so the instigator is often responsible.

If you did not see someone open his door. Then you did not watch the video. What he may have done before hand is irrelevant because at the time he decided to flee. he was under attack. If he did not get out of dodge. then he would be beaten on the highway. He didn't know what their intention were other than they were hitting his car and open his door. Who's to say they wouldn't have done anything to his family. What sane person would stay there while under attack.

First, nowhere in the video did I see anyone open a door and try and get in his car and I haven't read any reports to support YOUR claim. This took place on the West Side HWY... in the middle of the day (very busy very public).

Second, what happened "before hand" is critically important and vitally relevant. What happened "before hand" will determine what happens to the driver with regards to using his truck like a loaded weapon and paralyzing a 26 year old man.

He did not do like any sane person would do... he panicked. His wife probably screaming... his baby probably crying... he, no doubt afraid, panicked. That's logic. Not making excuses for the guy, not eliminating his fear but illustrating that "logically" something preceded the initial incident... and it could have enough weight to shift blame.

door open 1:20 mark!

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[jagged777]

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Here is what we do see: the driver, rear ended the car AND stopped ... but you say he used the car as a weapon. But you, call ME the idiot.

We don't know what happened before the 23 second mark, yet you assume that SOMETHING happened. I didn't assume anything, but you call ME the idiot for making an assumption.

You assumed that something happened where the rider "felt strongly enough" to jump in front of the car. A motorcycle rider, with no protective gear on other than a helmet, jumps in front of a car. This is a rational move to you? You and the rider are morons. Your judgement must be shit; you probably married a woman with four baby fathers, thinking that now that you're in the picture she's saved. Fucking moron.

The one who jumped in front of him, deserved whatever happened to him. Watch the video. Did you see the driver indicate? Or, was the driver almost in the same lane as the car.

It's perfectly reasonable for me to call anyone in this thread who got on the driver homotional ( this includes you ).

What's shown in the video is clear: motorcycle purposefully jumps in front of the range rover. the car stops ( not the actions of someone who plans on using the car as a weapon ). the driver speeds off and keeps "running", obviously spooked. ( Also, check the other video posted in this thread. These fools do this regularly. Harassing drivers that is )

Well said sir. Finally a good analysis of the situation .

 

[jagged777]

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the point is they went after the driver only, the one responsible, the driver went on a rampage and was willing to hit anyone, not jus the guy who stopped in front of his vehicle, not the guy who reached for the door, it appears even if your were just an observer he would have taken you out too. thats the action of a madman

You really need to watch the video in its entirety

 

[dabushwackers]

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He should've went towards the the George Washington bridge and those dudes would've backed off fucking with bridge and tunnels cops it would've been motorcycles gang runs into glocks

 

[Lattimore]

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Here is what we do see: the driver, rear ended the car AND stopped ... but you say he used the car as a weapon. But you, call ME the idiot.

We don't know what happened before the 23 second mark, yet you assume that SOMETHING happened. I didn't assume anything, but you call ME the idiot for making an assumption.

You assumed that something happened where the rider "felt strongly enough" to jump in front of the car. A motorcycle rider, with no protective gear on other than a helmet, jumps in front of a car. This is a rational move to you? You and the rider are morons. Your judgement must be shit; you probably married a woman with four baby fathers, thinking that now that you're in the picture she's saved. Fucking moron.

The one who jumped in front of him, deserved whatever happened to him. Watch the video. Did you see the driver indicate? Or, was the driver almost in the same lane as the car.

It's perfectly reasonable for me to call anyone in this thread who got on the driver homotional ( this includes you ).

What's shown in the video is clear: motorcycle purposefully jumps in front of the range rover. the car stops ( not the actions of someone who plans on using the car as a weapon ). the driver speeds off and keeps "running", obviously spooked. ( Also, check the other video posted in this thread. These fools do this regularly. Harassing drivers that is )

Who's emotional now? Anyone who makes a claim like you made- without the facts- is an idiot. That is the very definition of an idiot.. a dope... a moron... imbecile- someone lacking common sense. And yes, it's a logical to deduce that something happened before the .23 second mark. Bikes crowd around a specific car (out of all the other cars) and bring it to a stop. We don't know something happened but odds- the ratio between the expected probability either way- are that something "did" happen- bc of the outcome (bikes crowding around one specific car and bringing it to a stop).

"The one who jumped in front of him deserved what happened to him." Your an idiot. To say someone deserved to get paralyzed (if that was in fact the guy) is idiotic.

By your logic a family of three was out for a sunday drive. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, a pack of motorcycles bring he and his family to a stop- on the HWY- and try to get into his car. He runs them over giving them the broken bones they deserve. Got it!

 

[boss429]

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Fucking wanna-be thug bikers!!! And bikers always crying about how they get no respect on the road?!?! The biker that got tapped by the Range Rover is at fault... slowing down and trying to be cute!!! The driver was definitely in fear for his family's well being, and did what most others would have done in that situation!

 

[Lattimore]

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door open 1:20 mark!

After he runs a few guys over.

 

[footloose]

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so by not seeing what this all started from you guys are saying the bikers stopped this guy on the highway with the intent to enter his vehicle and thats what this all started from

 

[boss429]

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"The one who jumped in front of him deserved what happened to him."

a family of three was out for a sunday drive. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, a pack of motorcycles bring he and his family to a stop- on the HWY- and try to get into his car. He runs them over giving them the broken bones they deserve.

Pretty much!

 

[smiffnwessun]

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The only reason the range rover slowed down was because they slashed his tires.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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Fucking wanna-be thug bikers!!! And bikers always crying about how they get no respect on the road?!?! The biker that got tapped by the Range Rover is at fault... slowing down and trying to be cute!!! The driver was definitely in fear for his family's well being, and did what most others would have done in that situation!

The problem with that is he doesn't have a reason to fear for his safety until after he runs a few people over. Before that, it's just another example of an asshole in a SUV meeting an asshole on a motorcycle.

There was some type of exchange of word or whatever to set this off. I'd like to know what happened there.

There seemed to be a moment where many of the cyclists were about to leave when it escalated and the suv took off.

 

[Machete]

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Who's emotional now? Anyone who makes a claim like you made- without the facts- is an idiot. That is the very definition of an idiot.. a dope... a moron... imbecile- someone lacking common sense. And yes, it's a logical to deduce that something happened before the .23 second mark. Bikes crowd around a specific car (out of all the other cars) and bring it to a stop. We don't know something happened but odds- the ratio between the expected probability either way- are that something "did" happen- bc of the outcome (bikes crowding around one specific car and bringing it to a stop).

"The one who jumped in front of him deserved what happened to him." Your an idiot. To say someone deserved to get paralyzed (if that was in fact the guy) is idiotic.

By your logic a family of three was out for a Sunday drive. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, a pack of motorcycles bring he and his family to a stop- on the HWY- and try to get into his car. He runs them over giving them the broken bones they deserve. Got it!

as·sump·tion əˈsəm(p)SHən ( noun )
1. a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.
2. the action of taking or beginning to take power or responsibility.

You ain't deduce shit. You assumed. You're calling me an idiot because you THINK that I made an assumption. BUT YOU'RE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION!!!! How isn't that clear to you? You ASSumed that something happened. I'm going BASED ON WHAT WAS IN THE VIDEO.

I saw ONE bike stop the car, by slowing down and allowing a Jeep to rear end him. This is about the dumbest thing that anyone can do, and you're cosigning this behavior.

And, where did you see me type that he deserved to be paralyzed? I didn't say that. However, a person who isn't mentally challenged, that jumps in front of a speeding car deserves what happens to them. Any rational person, understands that speeding car plus pedestrian equals splat. Apparently in your world, physics is slightly different. You sir, are a moron and a cunt. Log off and go play in traffic. Actually, do what your bestie did in the video, hop on your bike and stop short in front of an 18 wheeler.

 

[Lattimore]

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The problem with that is he doesn't have a reason to fear for his safety until after he runs a few people over. Before that, it's just another example of an asshole in a SUV meeting an asshole on a motorcycle.

Which is the point.

 

[Lattimore]

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as·sump·tion əˈsəm(p)SHən ( noun )
1. a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof.
2. the action of taking or beginning to take power or responsibility.

You ain't deduce shit. You assumed. You're calling me an idiot because you THINK that I made an assumption. BUT YOU'RE MAKING AN ASSUMPTION!!!! How isn't that clear to you? You ASSumed that something happened. I'm going BASED ON WHAT WAS IN THE VIDEO.

I saw ONE bike stop the car, by slowing down and allowing a Jeep to rear end him. This is about the dumbest thing that anyone can do, and you're cosigning this behavior.

And, where did you see me type that he deserved to be paralyzed? I didn't say that. However, a person who isn't mentally challenged, that jumps in front of a speeding car deserves what happens to them. Any rational person, understands that speeding car plus pedestrian equals splat. Apparently in your world, physics is slightly different. You sir, are a moron and a cunt. Log off and go play in traffic. Actually, do what your bestie did in the video, hop on your bike and stop short in front of an 18 wheeler.

There's no need to go back and forth. To you the video tells the entire story and to me that just doesn't make sense... but like you said i'm irrational (and whatever else).

For the record, to express some sort of satisfaction towards a person hurt in an incident like this- where so much is unknown (for example, the person who was paralyzed could have actually been trying to keep the other bikers away from the mans car) is moronic (How isn't that clear to you?).

 

[footloose]

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Fucking wanna-be thug bikers!!! And bikers always crying about how they get no respect on the road?!?! The biker that got tapped by the Range Rover is at fault... slowing down and trying to be cute!!! The driver was definitely in fear for his family's well being, and did what most others would have done in that situation!

what yall dudes aint realizing is if the dudes on the bikes was as reckless as the driver, that dude woulda been dead. i mean how hard is it to flip a license plate up and let off thru the window, you already got a helmet to conceal your identity, thats too easy. the driver went overboard and if you ask me they showed mercy on him for his actions

 

[Lattimore]

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The problem with that is he doesn't have a reason to fear for his safety until after he runs a few people over. Before that, it's just another example of an asshole in a SUV meeting an asshole on a motorcycle.

There was some type of exchange of word or whatever to set this off. I'd like to know what happened there.

There seemed to be a moment where many of the cyclists were about to leave when it escalated and the suv took off.

That's too much logic UpgradeDAVE... vigilantes on these BGOL streets.

 

[Lattimore]

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what yall dudes aint realizing is if the dudes on the bikes was as reckless as the driver, that dude woulda been dead. i mean how hard is it to flip a license plate up and let off thru the window, you already got a helmet to conceal your identity, thats too easy. the driver went overboard and if you ask me they showed mercy on him for his actions

Thank you

 

[jagged777]

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what yall dudes aint realizing is if the dudes on the bikes was as reckless as the driver, that dude woulda been dead. i mean how hard is it to flip a license plate up and let off thru the window, you already got a helmet to conceal your identity, thats too easy. the driver went overboard and if you ask me they showed mercy on him for his actions

Hypothetically lets assume the driver of the SUV was reckless, What about the biker that taunted the SUV driver by deliberately slowing down and stopping abruptly in order to get hit?

 

[daking181]

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If the range rover driver was reckless why didn't any of the cyclists call the cops?

I'll wait.........

 

[daking181]

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Dude that got paralyzed should thank his asshole on the bike for stopping in front of the range.

 

[daking181]

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The dude bumped one bike. Why did the biker need 20 more people to exchange insurance info? I would have ran over the mofos too

 

[Darrkman]

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The bikers were wrong for chasing dude and jumping on him but the driver of the SUV started this when he didn't have to. A simple move of taking his foot off his accelerator and the whole group would have passed him by and no one would have gotten hurt.

Nah...thats bullshit. They had planned on fucking with the SUV and you can tell by how they surrounded it on the road and trying to brake check the SUV. They tried to take it to that dude cause they had a mob mentality and didn't expect to get all they were asking for and more.

 

[gene cisco]

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The dude bumped one bike. Why did the biker need 20 more people to exchange insurance info? I would have ran over the mofos too

Fuck is a guy 40 yards away taking his helmet off and approaching for? Fuck he thinks he is? Jax Teller? There have been numerous cases where drivers have been physically harmed by mobs after an accident. Hell, even a fender bender with one person can turn into an assault. With 50 fucking people surrounding you? The driver of the SUV had every right to fear for his safety given the situation.

It takes more to stop a Range compared to a bike. The bike slows down, even if you slam the brakes you still can bump the bike.

So when he stops initially, he was supposedly given shit. What fool is going to stick around in that situation?

And since when does honking a horn qualify as starting shit(some say he may have honked his horn)? If you find yourself behind someone not paying attention to the light being green, you honk. Someone going way too slow in the passing lane, you honk or flash lights. That doesn't warrant a response from the other party.

Sorry, if I were in that situation, I'd have used my vehicle to force my way out and GPS'd the nearest police station. Before ramming, I'd have called 911 to let them know I'm not sticking around the scene of the "accident". Got me fucked up.

 

[daking181]

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Nah...thats bullshit. They had planned on fucking with the SUV and you can tell by how they surrounded it on the road and trying to brake check the SUV. They tried to take it to that dude cause they had a mob mentality and didn't expect to get all they were asking for and more.

They wanted to take over the highway so their peeps could do stunts and whatever. That's why some wear helmet cams.

I remember being behind 3 motorcycles on a street. 2 held up traffic while the 3rd did wheelies done the block. I honked my horn and one of the bikers proceeded to burn out his tire making a lot of smoke. My wife and I sat back laughing at this idiot

 

[BrownTurd]

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STFU... paralyzing someone is the right thing? How do you even know what started this? Oh that's right you don't.

Come on man... be logical. A dude is unable to walk for the rest of his life... and however wild the bikers were they didn't paralyze the driver or hurt his family... so some restraint and judgement was showed. I'm sure the driver felt threatened but was running someone over necessary... on a packed highway?

Does not matter who was right or wrong. If you stupid enough to challenge a truck on a bike then you deserve what ever injury you receive