CHAOS ON THE WEST SIDE HIGHWAY: Wild pack of motorcycling madmen chase family in SUV,

[Darrkman]

People in here defending the bikers either cause they're bikers themselves or cause most of the bikers were Black or Hispanic and the driver was asian.

Bunch of dumbasses came with mob mentality and are lucky the Asian dude wasn't as aggressive as he could of been.

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[fles]

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The thing is, the Range Rover Driver was on his anniversary. He was in no rush. He provoked it by honking his horn and running into the back of the first driver. First of all, as a motorist, your not supposed to be tailgating anyone. Extra careful with a motorcyclist. Secondly, common sense supposed to kick in, when you see all the bikers, the voice in your head should say "let me not do anything to piss off these dudes, because it might not end well for me". So with that said, he shouldn't have been tailgating, and he shouldn't have been provoking, fuck road rules and right-of-way, this is street survival common sense. He should have sized up the situation from the gate, and just let them by, i'd rather slow down for five minutes to let a bunch of ego driven bikers by, then to let the streets handle it, and let my daughter watch her dad receive a ass whoopin, courtesy of the ruff ryders. Yes, the bikers were wrong for clipping him, but so what. your gonna lose regardless, even if your right. your outnumbered (by the hundreds), by street cats with vehicles that are faster, and more agile than your vehicle. Use your head.

Agreed.

Not just that-

Cats are talking about running over the bikers, speeding off, et,c BECAUSE of their wife and kids in the car.



You gonna run over bikers, Speed on the highway, Drive through intersections, etc.
Wouldn't you be ENDANGERING your wife and child by doing all that wild shit??

Stay in the car, keep the doors lock, and let em do whatever. Pop tires, scratch, etc.
Like you said,you will not win either way. He just made the situation WORSE.

 

[II Dxnum]

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didnt have much in him when he was out of the vehicle i guess. if ya aint tough out the vehicle dont try to be tough in a vehicle.

@ making this statement as if it was a one on one situation and dude wasn't surrounded by like 50 people.

 

[fles]

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And no, I am not taking the bikers side. I feel bad for the guy and his family. Those cats are scumbags.

 

[Darrkman]

Biker dudes tried to take down some of the videos they posted on YouTube but of course people found them and posted them back up.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

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[jagged777]

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Biker dudes tried to take down some of the videos they posted on YouTube but of course people found them and posted them back up.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3cd_1380579664

Sent from my Nexus 4

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There you have it. They ran a lot of red lights in those video in the above link. Watch it and don't take my word for it. They taunted the guy in the SUV plain simple and the after math of it led to one of bikers being in the hospital and the SUV/owner damaged/injured. They fucked it up for other biker that ride and abide by traffic law and don't taunt motor vehicle. Reckless and irresponsible. Now the SUV owner is also at fault for driving over the guy. The charges will be crazy when its all set and done. Two families life's have been changed by this single act of recklessness that could have been avoided. Well the bikers thought is was one, but it was the other way.

 

[Darrkman]

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There you have it. They ran a lot of red lights in those video in the above link. Watch it and don't take my word for it. They taunted the guy in the SUV plain simple and the after math of it led to one of bikers being in the hospital and the SUV/owner damaged/injured. They fucked it up for other biker that ride and abide by traffic law and don't taunt motor vehicle. Reckless and irresponsible. Now the SUV owner is also at fault for driving over the guy. The charges will be crazy when its all set and done. Two families life's have been changed by this single act of recklessness that could have been avoided. Well the bikers thought is was one, but it was the other way.

I notice when they were on the Van Wyck and the Grand Central they didn't get as foolish as the West Side Highway. Cause those dumbasses knew how it would of ended they did that same shit in Jamaica, Queens.

 

[big pimp]

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if dudes dont wanna act civil during a fender bender....and wanna start attacking me and my family while we in the car......definitely a time to react in self defense.

c/s.

 

[Machete]

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There's no need to go back and forth. To you the video tells the entire story and to me that just doesn't make sense... but like you said i'm irrational (and whatever else).

For the record, to express some sort of satisfaction towards a person hurt in an incident like this- where so much is unknown (for example, the person who was paralyzed could have actually been trying to keep the other bikers away from the mans car) is moronic (How isn't that clear to you?).

The video doesn't tell the whole story, however, the behavior of motorcycle gangs is well known and documented. In groups, they act like assholes on the road. I saw another example of that, and it went south for them. That's why the police charged the bikers. Not the driver ..... and I never called you irrational. Pay attention to what I typed, not what you think that I typed.

This is why I called you homotional, you assumed too many things from what I typed. I did not express satisfaction, I simply stated that he deserved whatever consequences he got because of his stupid behavior. If he got paralyzed because he stopped short in front of a jeep, then so be it. I'm talking specifically about the guy who initiated the confrontation. I'm not happy about it, or sad. He got what he deserved.

 

[footloose]

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People in here defending the bikers either cause they're bikers themselves or cause most of the bikers were Black or Hispanic and the driver was asian.

Bunch of dumbasses came with mob mentality and are lucky the Asian dude wasn't as aggressive as he could of been.

Sent from my Nexus 4

no but i recognize a bitch move when i see one. if you aint aggressive without a weapon dont try to be aggressive with one. if the dude end up doing 7 yrs for vehicular manslaughter he cant bring that range rover to prison wit him

 

[gene cisco]

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no but i recognize a bitch move when i see one. if you aint aggressive without a weapon dont try to be aggressive with one. if the dude end up doing 7 yrs for vehicular manslaughter he cant bring that range rover to prison wit him

How do they do the jury duty for such a case? You'd have to have a jury full of bikers to convict the guy.

The bikers basically saw what they thought was a square cat and fucked with him. It was a safe bet. I bet they wouldn't have pulled that shit if it were some goon looking cats in that Rover.

Bullies pick their targets very carefully...

 

[daking181]

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no but i recognize a bitch move when i see one. if you aint aggressive without a weapon dont try to be aggressive with one. if the dude end up doing 7 yrs for vehicular manslaughter he cant bring that range rover to prison wit him

That dude ain't doing no time

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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New York News
Video shows bikers, driver clash after accident on Henry Hudson Parkway

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NEW YORK (WABC) -- A fender bender involving a motorcycle and a Range Rover on the Henry Hudson Parkway erupted into a chase and a brawl, police say, with the driver of the SUV getting beaten after fleeing the scene of the accident.

A beautiful afternoon ride on the Westside Highway turned into a ride from hell on Sunday when scores of bikers descended on a motorist in a black SUV.

At the beginning of this 6 1/2 minute clip posted on YouTube, which is now the focus of a police investigation, you see the bikers swarm the Range Rover. One stopped right in front of the car, causing a fender bender.

Inside were the driver, Alexian Lien, his wife and 2-year-old daughter. Apparently fearing for the lives of his family, Lien took off, hitting a biker and running over a motorcycle before the gang gave chase.

"This man and and road rage and road rage and nobody mentions my husband in a coma, paralyzed," said Dayana Mieses, the motorcyclist's wife.

32-year-old Edwin Mieses was critically injured.

Others, including Edwin Mieses, stopped and got off their bikes.

"I understand. You are going to be scared. You see all these people," Mieses said, "Point blank is that he ran over a human being and he left him there for dead and then he left."

"The individual in the SUV did call and we responded to that call," Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said.

The next stop was by the George Washington Bridge ramp, where one biker ripped open the car door, forcing the driver to flee again.

Eventually, the heart stopping chase ended up on 178th Street, where the Range Rover became trapped by traffic with the raging bikers right behind him.

The video shows the bikers smashing in the windows, but stops short of the brutal assault. According to police, the father was dragged out of the car and beaten in front of his horrified family. The driver was treated and released from the hospital.

According to the police commissioner, more than a dozen bikers were arrested on Sunday, and 55 bikes were confiscated for various traffic violations.

28-year-old Christopher Cruz, of Passaic, was charged with causing the initial crash and not for the assault. He was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, menacing and endangering the welfare of a child.

He is believed to be the motorcyclist who cut off the Range Rover before he was rear-ended by the SUV in the crash that started the incident. Detectives said Cruz was charged because his erratic driving sparked the melee.

Cruz was treated for minor injuries, including lower back pain, and released.

Authorities released photos of two other bikers involved, one of whom has a flag sticker of "Guyana" on the rear of the motorcycle.

Police say one of the men, 43-year-old Allen Edwards, surrendered Tuesday morning and is being questioned. The other biker is still being sought.

Anyone with information regarding the incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477).

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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More Info: Manhattan Motor Bike Pack Violence
note: not m/b words.



The "victim" of the road-raging Range Rover beast!

Edwin was the biker who was run over after blocking and harrassing the Range Rover driver who ended up being terrorised with his family and beaten up in the Manhattan bike run. Incident here below.

www.liveleak.com/view?i=549_1380683083

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He was injured to the point where he may not walk again. And mommy says none of it is his fault, he's such a good boy! Will he learn? I doubt it!

www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f8_1380674076&comments=1
Range Rover Victim may be paralyzed

Yolanda Santiago fights back tears as she speaks with WHDH about her son, one of the motorcyclists who remains in a medically-induced coma after allegedly being run over by the driver a black Range Rover during an altercation on New York City's West Side Highway
By Tracy Connor, Staff Writer, NBC News
A clash between a pack of motorcyclists and a Range Rover on a Manhattan highway — which triggered a harrowing chase caught on a viral video — has left one biker facing charges and a second in critical condition.
Edwin "Jay" Mieses, 32, could be paralyzed after being run over during the chaos, a relative said.
“He was an innocent bystander,” Mieses’ aunt, Delilah Domenech, told NBC News on Tuesday, saying her nephew was checking on another motorcyclist when he was struck by the panicked motorist.
A third biker involved in the incident, who was sought by the NYPD after being caught on camera punching the window of the Range Rover, turned himself in on Tuesday, sources told NBC New York.


The violent scene unfolded Sunday afternoon when up to 30 motorcyclists taking part in an unauthorized daredevil rally called Hollywood Stuntz took to the West Side Highway.
Video taken by a helmet camera shows the pack zooming around the the Range Rover of Alexian Lien, 33, who was out for a drive with his wife and 2-year-old daughter, police said.
One biker, identified by police as Christopher Cruz, 23, of New Jersey, slowed down right in front of the SUV and gestured at Lien, who clipped the motorcycle, the video shows.

Deliliah Domenech
Jay Mieses' family says he may be paralyzed from the waist down after being injured Sunday during a clash between bikers and a Range Rover in Manhattan

The group of riders then surrounded Lien's vehicle.
"They take their helmets and start to dent his car, and apparently his tires are slashed there with a knife," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.
Mieses, who lives in Lawrence, Mass., can be seen on the video getting off his green bike to check on Cruz, his aunt said. He was standing near the SUV when Lien suddenly took off and ran over him, she said.
Police said Mieses suffered two broken legs, but family members said his injuries were far more severe and include a torn aorta, broken ribs and spinal damage that will probably leave him paralyzed.
“He damaged my son’s life forever," his mother, Yolando Santiago, told NBC affiliate WHDH. "He is never going to walk again."
After Lien took off, other members of the crew forced him on a harrowing chase. They cornered him at one point and managed to yank open his door, but he gunned it and sped away again, the video posted on You Tube shows.
After a 50-block northbound pursuit, he got off the highway and stopped on a side street in upper Manhattan, where video shows one motorcyclist smashing in the window with a helmet.
Police said the gang pulled Lien out of the car and assaulted him in front of his wife and child, slashing his face and chest. He was treated and released from Columbia University Medical Center.

YouTube
Christopher Cruz slows his motorcycle down in front of a Range Rover on Mahattan's West Side Highway on Sunday, Sept. 29, in this image from a video posted on YouTube. Cruz has been arrested by police after his clash with the Range Rover triggered a wild chase and beating by a pack of fellow bikers bent on revenge.

Cruz, who was also injured, was charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, and endangering the welfare of a child for his actions on the road, officials told NBC New York.
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Police said the investigation is continuing and they are still looking for up to 30 bikers.
Domenech said her family is upset that most of the attention from the incident is focused on Lien and not her nephew, a married father of a 10-year-old and a 14-year-old.
"This man with a Range Rover and luxury lifestyle — it's OK for him to do something to someone because he rides a bike or has tattoos?" she said.
She said she didn't know if the driver should be charged.
"But it should be acknowledged that what he did was wrong," she said. "He had many other options but he chose the violent one."
Asked whether Lien was within his legal rights to leave the scene of the intial accident, Kelly said, "It depends on what the circumstances are."
"It depends on whether or not your vehicle is being attacked, whether or not you think you’re being attacked, whether or not your wife and child are in the car. You have to look at the totality of the circumstances and that’s what we’re doing,” he said.
"Obviously, if you can get out of there without hurting someone, that’s what we advise you to do," he added. "There’s no one-size-fits-all to a situation like this."
Kelly said the bikers did not have a permit for the rally and the NYPD only learned of the gathering — in its second year — through social media.
He said police had fanned out around Manhattan to watch for trouble, arresting 15 bikers and confiscating 55 motorcycles unrelated to the attack on the Range Rover.

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Here is the thuggish behaviour of Edwin and his pack before the incident.

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More footage previous to Range Rover incident

A few videos pulled from the guy's YouTube account which he has now removed because it shows the behavior of the group at what I believe is before the incident with the Range Rover found here

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Well, well, well. Isn't it just fucking amazing that just this morning I asked where the video of everything leading up to the SUV incident that was "cut" from the video this morning.
Just a bunch of law abiding, courteous motorcycle riders on a fun ride thru the town. I watched the first video of all these and not even going to bother with the rest. Bunch of assholes. Fuck em.
Posted 1 day ago By
tat2d (4015.48) [United States]
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[kajidono]

@tat2d It's more of the same until toward the end of the third video where they're running red lights one after another after another. Rest of the videos won't load.
Posted 1 day ago By
kajidono (738.16) [Troll ] [United States]
(4)
[tat2d]

@kajidono All I saw was aggressive bullshit, unlawful and unsafe behavior. Enough for me.
Posted 1 day ago By
tat2d (4015.48) [United States]
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[kajidono]

@tat2d I got the rest of them to load, it gets much worse from there.
Posted 1 day ago By
kajidono (738.16) [Troll ] [United States]
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[Eternal21]

@tat2d
Where's an Asian truck driver when you need one...
Posted 1 day ago By
Eternal21 (458.10) [Manhattan, United States]
(30)
[man_flesh]

@tat2d How did you consider them law abiding when they purposefully stopped traffic on a road for no apparent reason in the original video?
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[Triode]

Numerous traffic offenses, piles of dangerous riding examples, gang behavior, undisciplined riding.

That pile of excrement HAD to have a bad ending. One dead - goodbye. And If I was in the RANGE ROVER I would not have stopped for anyone.

There's yet another reason(s) to carry a pistol with you when in your car.
Posted 1 day ago By
Triode (653.40) [Australia]
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[Lipton.br]

@Triode
In regards to the one dead biker, that was mentioned on the previous video.
I have tried and have not found any information that a biker died during that alteraction.
I saw a video from teh NYPD high ranking brass that stated the guy had a broken leg, the one that was runover.

But yeah, fuck em.
Posted 1 day ago By
Lipton.br (137.30) [Brooklyn, United States]
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[ceej]

@Triode No one died. I'm afraid.
Posted 1 day ago By
ceej (115.60) [United Kingdom (UK/GB)]
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[Triode]

@Lipton.br Correct. Latest info is that no one was killed. Thanks.
Posted 1 day ago By
Triode (653.40) [Australia]
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[Triode]

@ceej That's right. My latest info says that. Thank you.
Posted 1 day ago By
Triode (653.40) [Australia]
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[Quinn]

@Triode
Do you know what happened to the driver?
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[Ticklemytaint]

rang rover dude should sue the living shit out of all of them.
Posted 1 day ago By
Ticklemytaint (347.40) [United States]
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[Vector_bitch]

@Ticklemytaint Sadly, if he makes it out of the coma. They beat the shit out of an old man. Fucking waste of space those guys.
Posted 19 hours ago By
Vector_bitch (173.70) [Louisville, United States]
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[JimBurrrr]

@Vector_bitch read the news story... no one died. no one is in a coma. the rider suffered a broken leg, and the suv driver suffered lacerations to his face and chest and was released from the hospital.
Posted 18 hours ago By
JimBurrrr (1.10) [New user!] [Virginia Beach, United States]
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[strange1]

@JimBurrrr
"..the rider suffered a broken leg,.." TFB...
Posted 15 hours ago By
strange1 (1.40) [United States]
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[AG434]

@Ticklemytaint
sue them and bend over their moms for anal action
Posted 2 hours ago By
AG434 (95.80) [Los Angeles, United States]
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[Kalazam]

Fuck all these assholes I hate pricks that ride like this. No respect for anyone they all deserve to be maimed in horrible crashes.
Posted 1 day ago By
Kalazam (782.30) [Moscow, United States]
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[copilot1111111]

@Kalazam They are just having fun and the douche in Rover had to act like a douche - Rover drivers are even more arrogant than BMW drivers. He should have apologized on behalf of his 3 ton vehicle and waved them goodbye
Posted 22 hours ago By
copilot1111111 (831.40)
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[Bannedman]

@copilot1111111
"Just having fun" having ILLEGAL "fun" endangering other people! And attacking the Range Rover driver with his wife and daughter in the car. If I was the driver I would have ran over as many as I could, then drove fast and brake checked them as many times as possible till they all pile over each other or leave me alone.
Posted 20 hours ago By
Bannedman (357.70) [United Kingdom (UK/GB)]
(5)
[Nemo hos]

@Bannedman there is a thing called skills...only inexperienced riders would fall for brake check..so fail and I hope ur kids get bikes and see if you would be saying the same thing bish
Posted 17 hours ago By
Nemo hos (0.20) [Atlanta, United States]
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[Bannedman]

@Nemo hos
I'll make sure I don't raise arseholes that endanger others, even if they do get bikes. This isn't about the machine, it's about the arseholes riding it. And by the sound of it you're an arsehole with keyboard "skills"


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[eliive]

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Anytime you are in a large group, whether you're peaceful or not, you're going to create a certain level of fear and concern from those you're surrounding.

As seen in the multiple videos, the bikers are NOT following the speed limit. They are moving in and out of traffic, they are creating their own rules and causing panic to drivers they approach at split second timing. Which in itself will cause nervousness to any driver.

Once they surrounded the driver of the Rover, shit got real. Dude in the Rover had no idea what kick they were on, especially when they were taunting him, blocking him in and cutting him off.

If anyone does not think that bikers come with a certain reputation, then you are just not being rational.

With that said, the bikers had the option to keep it moving and leave dude alone, regardless if he was blowing his horn or not, yet they chose to fuck with him because they were in a very large number and dude got scared and went into defense mode.

Your actions will cause a person to have a reaction and you can not tell a person how they are suppose to react to your bs!

I feel sorry for all parties involved, a lot of lives were changed that day.

 

[GAMETHEORY]

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what if the bike rider run over is BLACK and the range rover driver is WHITE?

 

[Tuco]

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I would have ran over all them fuckers!!!!

HELLS fuckin yea! and im in a Range Rover too???

GTA all over da West Side Hwy! While on da phone w/ 911. why da fuck would u get off da highway to sit in traffic?

 

[phanatic]

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People in here defending the bikers either cause they're bikers themselves or cause most of the bikers were Black or Hispanic and the driver was asian.

Bunch of dumbasses came with mob mentality and are lucky the Asian dude wasn't as aggressive as he could of been.

Sent from my Nexus 4

I'm a biker and I can't defend the dude. He brake checked the car to slow it down and let all the other bikers catch up to the pack. When you challenge a SUV with a MC, you're going to lose every time. Is it fucked up the guy is paralyzed, HELL YEAH, but he put himself in a fucked up position

 

[phanatic]

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The thing is, the Range Rover Driver was on his anniversary. He was in no rush. He provoked it by honking his horn and running into the back of the first driver. First of all, as a motorist, your not supposed to be tailgating anyone. Extra careful with a motorcyclist. Secondly, common sense supposed to kick in, when you see all the bikers, the voice in your head should say "let me not do anything to piss off these dudes, because it might not end well for me". So with that said, he shouldn't have been tailgating, and he shouldn't have been provoking, fuck road rules and right-of-way, this is street survival common sense. He should have sized up the situation from the gate, and just let them by, i'd rather slow down for five minutes to let a bunch of ego driven bikers by, then to let the streets handle it, and let my daughter watch her dad receive a ass whoopin, courtesy of the ruff ryders. Yes, the bikers were wrong for clipping him, but so what. your gonna lose regardless, even if your right. your outnumbered (by the hundreds), by street cats with vehicles that are faster, and more agile than your vehicle. Use your head.

He wasn't tailgating. Dude on the motorcycle switched lanes, then slowed down.

 

[Lattimore]

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The video doesn't tell the whole story, however, the behavior of motorcycle gangs is well known and documented. In groups, they act like assholes on the road. I saw another example of that, and it went south for them. That's why the police charged the bikers. Not the driver ..... and I never called you irrational. Pay attention to what I typed, not what you think that I typed.

This is why I called you homotional, you assumed too many things from what I typed. I did not express satisfaction, I simply stated that he deserved whatever consequences he got because of his stupid behavior. If he got paralyzed because he stopped short in front of a jeep, then so be it. I'm talking specifically about the guy who initiated the confrontation. I'm not happy about it, or sad. He got what he deserved.

A person who isn't mentally challenged, that jumps in front of a speeding car deserves what happens to them. Any rational person, understands that speeding car plus pedestrian equals splat. Apparently in your world, physics is slightly different. You sir, are a moron and a cunt. Log off and go play in traffic. Actually, do what your bestie did in the video, hop on your bike and stop short in front of an 18 wheeler.

You assumed that something happened where the rider "felt strongly enough" to jump in front of the car. A motorcycle rider, with no protective gear on other than a helmet, jumps in front of a car. This is a rational move to you? You and the rider are morons. Your judgement must be shit; you probably married a woman with four baby fathers, thinking that now that you're in the picture she's saved. Fucking moron.

The implication from your posts are clear. I payed attention to what you typed {quoted above} and although you didn't call me irrational it's difficult to say that's not what you meant. And by the way, the person who was paralyzed is not the person seen in the video "break checking" the truck.


I called you an idiot and a moron bc you showed absolutely no concern for a human being who's lungs where collapsed, legs broken, and spine fractured (again, not the person doing the "break check" in the video... a different person), i.e.., "he got what he deserved." You implied that anyone who questioned the incident was being "homotional." And you based your cavalier attitude on a video which doesn't clearly show who deserved what, how the incident started, or least of all what the man who was paralyzed was doing; if anything. Other news sources {NYTimes for one- not owned by Rupert} are actually interviewing bikers who were there, and it appears something else did happen.

It kills me how easy it is for us to believe that young black and hispanic kids are constantly wild and out of control... and how anything showing them behaving in a less than christian way ='s them getting what they deserve. I've seen the videos... and I live in Harlem and i've encountered these groups of riders. These guys, from my personal experience, absolutely disobey the law when they ride... but they just ride for fun. Disobeying the law does not give anyone the right to drive in threatening way around them. A car does not equal a bike.

My point was/ is simple. Something happened before .26 on the video and we need to know what that is before we say these kids are just a bunch of assholes who terrorized a family. I'm not celebrating or congratulating anyone who shows such a blatant disregard for human life, and dudes acting like assholes on motorcycles does not justify running mother-fuckers over.

 

[Black Radical]

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The only people defending the bikers are other bikers and misguided black militants.
It's an unfortunate event but I think anyone with a family can imagine getting up out of there after being surrounded by like 100 bikers who start acting aggressively toward you. Race doesn't matter when you are outnumbered by that much. They could've been black, white, Mexican or Asian it wouldn't have mattered. I'm out.

This couldn't be anymore straight forward IMO. If the bikers thought they were correct, why did they flee the scene? If they were subduing a madman in an SUV why flee?

Mob mentality and macho biker mentality converge and a simple fender bender leaves a man paralyzed, another beaten and slashed, and at least one other with injuries.

A fender bender, regardless of who was at fault doesn't justify vandalizing a vehicle or committing acts of violence.

 

[Darrkman]

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How do they do the jury duty for such a case? You'd have to have a jury full of bikers to convict the guy.

The bikers basically saw what they thought was a square cat and fucked with him. It was a safe bet. I bet they wouldn't have pulled that shit if it were some goon looking cats in that Rover.

Bullies pick their targets very carefully...

Other videos show these same bikers on the Van Wyck and Grand Central in the Jamaica area on their best behavior. Thats cause they knew they try that same shit in that area some dude on the Van Wyck or GCP would go out his way to run over the entire group.

 

[durham]

I don't think dude had the right to run over a man, and then bounce like that.

I mean he couldn't call the police in the car? Lock the doors? Isn't that what they told that brother that shot the white kid in his driveway in upstate NY a few years ago? , 4 white kids were trying to attack his son. He got serious time, for the death, because he did not call the police even though he feared for his life on his own property.

Damn why even stop in front of a suv on a bike, that shit was stupid, and now his friend if paralyzed, when he wasn't even involved.

Sad shit all around

 

[samh32]

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The implication from your posts are clear. I payed attention to what you typed {quoted above} and although you didn't call me irrational it's difficult to say that's not what you meant. And by the way, the person who was paralyzed is not the person seen in the video "break checking" the truck.


I called you an idiot and a moron bc you showed absolutely no concern for a human being who's lungs where collapsed, legs broken, and spine fractured (again, not the person doing the "break check" in the video... a different person), i.e.., "he got what he deserved." You implied that anyone who questioned the incident was being "homotional." And you based your cavalier attitude on a video which doesn't clearly show who deserved what, how the incident started, or least of all what the man who was paralyzed was doing; if anything. Other news sources {NYTimes for one- not owned by Rupert} are actually interviewing bikers who were there, and it appears something else did happen.

It kills me how easy it is for us to believe that young black and hispanic kids are constantly wild and out of control... and how anything showing them behaving in a less than christian way ='s them getting what they deserve. I've seen the videos... and I live in Harlem and i've encountered these groups of riders. These guys, from my personal experience, absolutely disobey the law when they ride... but they just ride for fun. Disobeying the law does not give anyone the right to drive in threatening way around them. A car does not equal a bike.

My point was/ is simple. Something happened before .26 on the video and we need to know what that is before we say these kids are just a bunch of assholes who terrorized a family. I'm not celebrating or congratulating anyone who shows such a blatant disregard for human life, and dudes acting like assholes on motorcycles does not justify running mother-fuckers over.

I mean...what is the purpose of riding motorcycles down a major highway like this. The cops should have laid down spike strips, and lock all their azzes up.

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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2nd biker surrenders in Henry Hudson Parkway chase; no charges filed

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NEW YORK (WABC) -- Prosecutors have declined to file charges against the second biker who surrendered in connection with a frightening clash between a large group of motorcycle riders and an SUV driver on the Henry Hudson Parkway that was caught on video and posted on YouTube.

Allen Edwards, 42, of Jamaica, Queens, surrendered to police at the 33rd Precinct Tuesday night. It is believed he is the man who punched the rear window of the SUV with his fists at the end of the video.

He had been held and questioned overnight, and police initially said he would be charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. But the office declined to prosecute at this time, pending further investigation of the entire incident.

Meanwhile, the mother and wife of another biker left paralyzed in the incident are speaking out.

The video of the incident, which started as a fender bender, is disturbing and has gone viral over the past few days. And in addition to the SUV driver who fled the scene fearing for his life and the lives of his wife and 2-year-old daughter, we are also learning more about the man Alexian Lien ran over as he rushed to get away.

That man, 32-year-old Edwin Mieses, suffered broken legs, rib fractures and spine injuries and is paralyzed.

"All his ribs, fractured," mom Yolanda Santiago said. "His lungs are so badly bruised."

Wife Dayana Mieses says her husband was only trying to help the fellow biker who was injured in the initial fender bender.

"Being bent over, helping this guy, is why he got crushed," Dayana Mieses said. ""His aortic valve detached from his heart when the accident happened. Eight out of 10 people don't survive that...but he did. He's a survivor. He's paralyzed from the waist down. His spine was broken in two different places, and there's no hope for that as well."

Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, was arrested in connection with the initial crash and not in the assault. He is charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, menacing and endangering the welfare of a child.

He is believed to be the motorcyclist who cut off the Range Rover before he was rear-ended in the crash that started the incident. Detectives said Cruz was charged because his erratic driving sparked the melee.

Cruz was treated for minor injuries, including lower back pain, and released. He was arraigned Wednesday and was ordered by a judge to have his license suspended and passport revoked. The judge granted a $1,500 cash bail or $15,000 bond.

Cruz's lawyer argued that his client was not a flight risk and asked the judge to not seize passport/suspend license, but judge did it anyway.

Mieses said she understands the family in the SUV was scared, but she doesn't believe they were in any danger.

"What they don't know about the bike life is that they're a family, they're not out there to hurt people," she said. "My husband has a heart of gold. He stopped to help the man get up because that's all they do for each other, help each other."

Still, she feels her husband is the victim in this case.

"If he would have stopped after he initially hit that one person and noticed people were trying to help, there was no need for him to take off," she said. "For them to follow him and try to yank him out there car, to take off again and keep on driving and get beat up. If he would have stopped the first time, he would have know they were there to help [Cruz], Because that's what people do. They help each other. Bikers aren't a gang. They're not in a gang."

She says blame lies with Lien, who she says profiled the bikers.

"He's not even charged, and he's the victim," she said. "How is he the victim, because he can walk? How is he the victim, because he can walk his daughter down the aisle. My husband can't do any of that anymore. So I blame him, and he needs to come forward. Because he has a lot of bills to pay. Because for the rest of my life and my husband's life, we're going to be paying bills that, on a job I have, I will not be able to make on my own."

After Lien bowled over the bikers and their motorcycles, the rest of the group gave chase as one of them recorded the incident. The next stop was by the George Washington Bridge ramp, where one biker ripped open the car door, forcing the driver to flee again.

Eventually, the heart stopping chase ended up on 178th Street, where the Range Rover became trapped by traffic with the raging bikers right behind him. The video shows the bikers smashing in the windows, but stops short of the brutal assault that followed.

According to police, Lien was dragged out of the car and beaten in front of his horrified family.

Police are still searching for the man who used his helmet to bash the front window of the SUV. Authorities released a photo of the man, who has a flag sticker of "Guyana" on the rear of the motorcycle.

Anyone with information regarding the incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477).

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Fred95
• 5 hours ago

Tires were slashed on the SUV ... and Mieses' wife talks about them like they're a bunch of touchy-feelies? What's next, that they were all going to join hands and sing Kumbaya?

Oh, please. They're lucky Lien didn't take out more of them as he sped away in fear for his life.

Gang of thugs, injured by their victim. Zero sympathy, prosecute as many of them as you can find ... including Mieses.
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jeffryj4
• 7 hours ago

The biker was part of a group trying to intimidate the driver. He got what he deserved and can't now become the victim. The driver should be issued a concealed carry permit.
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mom29
• 6 hours ago

If I were surrounded by all those angry bikers, I would do the same thing!!! sorry the one biker was hurt so badly, but he stopped suddenly in front of the car, he caused his own injuries
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thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND mom29
• 3 hours ago

The biker that was paralyzed was not the one who stopped short.
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matt thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND
• 2 hours ago

The biker "with the heart of gold" shouldn't have been rolling with a bunch of pricks who try to cause havoc on innocent civilians.

The man driving the car was scared for his life, if you watched the video, you would see that he was only acting off of instinct to run from danger.
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thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND matt
• 2 hours ago

No, I actually agree; from what I observed, the driver fled because he was fearful. What I can't say definitively is that I saw the paralyzed biker contributing to
the situation. Mind you, he may have very well been party to instigating the
event. I just can't confirm it.

I am not fond of motorcyclist either; regardless of their gender, race, or group size. However, I tried to make a conscious effort to base what I thought about the case on what I saw and read, and not on what I may or may not think about motorcyclist.
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mguy from toronto thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND
• 2 hours ago

i dont think there is anyone who even has an ounce of sympathy for that guy. he was part of a vigilante biker gang, enuf said.
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Larania Reiner
• 5 hours ago

Sorry but this is not the fault of the guy in the SUV its the bikers fault and all the bikers who gave chase to the SUV, She wants to lay blame put it where it belongs to her husbands Biker "family" they should pay his bills
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u_fan
• 6 hours ago

WABC, we need a major media push by you and your associate news organizations to pressure the NYPD to do something about these gangs. The problems have been growing over the last few years and they have done virtually nothing to stop it. It was only a matter of time before something like this were to occur and it's going to happen again if NYPD can't get off of their excuses and get to work on eradicating this danger from the streets.
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James u_fan
• 4 hours ago

What's has the mayor said? Any news from the candidates on this? Where was the police. They shut down the highway with their stunts before this incident. Many of those bikes are illegal as they don't have tail lights or license plates.
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Fred95 u_fan
• 4 hours ago

The bikers were domestic terrorists.
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Suzanne Antonik-Boyer
• 5 hours ago

How is the driver not a victim? He was being tortured by these bikers including your husband. If that first biker didn't stop in front of the SUV to get hit, none of this would of happened. Blame your husbands friends and you say you can't make it on your own without him being able to work- well you can get another job and also I'm sure dealing drugs, he can do sitting down like he always has. The driver should not be charged at all for what these ANIMALS did to him...... Gangs like this are dangerous. NYPD needs to do something about it. The drivers poor family watched in horror as their loved one got beaten and stabbed, just imagine what this child is going through after seeing what they did to her Dad. Insane animals they are.... Horrible...............................
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thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND Suzanne Antonik-Boyer
• 2 hours ago

Wow; "dealing drugs, like he always has" it's nice to see that in 2013 people can be so impartial. In any event, you are female, so your opinion doesn't really matter. Besides, odds are, you are inept as a driver and probably cause accidents on a frequent basis anyway. With that said I feel the driver was a victim to some extent as well.
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miro besic
• 4 hours ago

Family of 3 driving their SUV on the beautiful day OR pack of 30-40 'bikers riding recklessly all over the highway in all lanes many of them without registrations and plates. Who is the possible attacker? LOL

What I see in this video is MOB LYNCH gone wrong !!! And the sad part is not only that none of the 'bikers' did not try to stop their friends, but that there were even cheering them. For me all of them should be arrested.

Just because one of them suffered hard injuries, does not make him NOT guilty !!!

You idiots spread the terror even prior this incident all over the city. More than 200 calls to the police? BTW where was the police all this time? They were afraid chasing them, because of the possible civilian casualties? But yet they were not afraid to open fire on unarmed man (armed with the calling card) in the middle of the Times Square and hitting two civilians and not even a scratch on the suspect? Or opening fire in the middle of the day at 34 street hitting the civilians? give me a break !!! BS If they would act when they received the first calls, this would be prevented !!!
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Ulric L. Wolf
• 6 hours ago

Mr.s Mieses is apparently incapable of understanding cause and effect.
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nomoretraitors Ulric L. Wolf
• 4 hours ago

As are most of the entitlement class
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Pit Bull nomoretraitors
• 3 hours ago

If she had taught that punk son of hers to respect other people he might not have been at the scene in the first place. Like the old saying goes, "You does the crime, you does the time."
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R A
• 3 hours ago

"Hollywood STUNTZ strange name for a just out for a ride group of people. Who had 200 complaints logged against them on Sunday. But the kicker is...
"What they don't know about the bike life is that they're a family, they're not out there to hurt people," So this non violent group of friends SLASH a GUY'S Face and Chest and 2 Black eyes in front of a 2 year old.

The person she needs to pay her bills is CRUZ for starting the whole fiasco.
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nomoretraitors
• 4 hours ago

"Mejia understands the family in the SUV was scared, but she doesn't believe they were in any danger"
These people (the entitlement class) are totally incapable of any rational thought.
Lady, if they were not in any danger they would have had no reason to be scared. And what if YOU were driving with your family and 50 H*ll's Angels suddenly surrounded YOUR car?
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thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND nomoretraitors
• 3 hours ago

The funny thing is you keep referring to the "entitlement class" but you obviously aren't educated enough to comprehend that the (victim) Lien is the entitled party. Fleeing a scene due to fear is one thing, running over anyone who gets in your way while you flee is another. While it did appear to me that the incident was incited by some of the bikers how do we know that the biker; left paralyzed, had a part in it? If Lien had run over pedestrians in an attempt to flee, would it be their fault they were run over as well? Most educated people prefer to have as much information as possible before they decide to; so adamantly, state their perception as belief.
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Pit Bull thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND
• 3 hours ago

How would you know what educated people think? Your own words prove that you are an idiot. Educated people most likely wouldn't have anything to do with you. If he had not been at the scene to begin with he could not have been run over. I guess that you have never heard of the "Group mentality" issue.
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thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND Pit Bull
• 2 hours ago

Wooooow you are so right I see the light. Anyone who is affiliated with a group can't think for themselves, so the paralyzed biker MUST have been instigating the incident as well. If Lien had run over 5 baby carriages in his attempt to flee he would still not culpable. He has no responsibility to not drive in harmful or reckless way because after all he was fearful!!!!!
Call me crazy but I prefer to take responsibility for all my actions. Guess that's just how I was raised.
Futhermore I guess some of us just get scared a little more easily than others!!
Do you fit that bill?
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nomoretraitors thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND
• an hour ago

Apparently you don't follow your own advice to think first and talk second. She has no concept of taking responsibility for one's actions and tries to portray her "husband" as a "victim" (and in all likelihood probably receives government assistance). Her so-called husband was part of the pack that surrounded the driver of the Land Rover which they had NO right to do. What would YOU think if a couple of dozen H*ll's Angels or Outlaws suddenly surrounded YOUR car with your family inside?
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thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND nomoretraitors
• 19 minutes ago

Look, I have no idea if she is on government assistance or not. All I'm trying to suggest is that making a determination on just how culpable the involved parties are should be based on the tangible information we receive. After watching the video I too feel that Cruz; the biker who stopped short, and other bikers instigated the situation. However, I can't say I know exactly what role the paralyzed biker played in the event. I can't say that I think all bikers operate recklessly or that biker groups are nothing but trouble. I generally just try to think objectively.
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miro besic
• 4 hours ago

Also if you watch the video from the beginning, you can clearly see that even prior the biker pulled in front of the SUV, that he was riding along with the SUV obviously yelling something to the SUV driver trough the driver window. So it looks like that this was going on waaaay before this video started. Who knows how long they were intimidating this family.
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Fred95
• 4 hours ago

Mieses was about to lead the group in joining hands and praying together.

Right after they finished slashing the tires and destroying the SUV.
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rick
• 5 hours ago

if those bikers came after me in my car with my wife and kids ill shoot to kill every one of them they are a bunch of thugs and feel big and strong because they are in a large group the mayor has to take a stand and severely punish them put the 2 breaking the glass with their helmets and fists to prison for life and throw away the key new york city is becoming lawless you cant have innocent people being stabbed killed everyday
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Guest
• 5 hours ago

How is the driver not a victim? He was being tortured by these bikers including your husband. If that first biker dodn't stop in front of the SUV to get hit, none of this would of happened. Blame your husbands friends and you say you can't make it on your own without him being able to work- well you can get another job and also I'm sure dealing drugs he can do sitting down like he always has. The driver should not be charged at all for what these animals did to him.
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Pit Bull
• 3 hours ago

I have absolutely no sympathy for his poor mommy crying on the national news. If she had taught her son to respect other people in the first place he would not have even been there to begin with. I can just imagine the result if these punks had tried to pull that crap on some old cowboy here in Texas with a jacked up four wheel drive pickup. The results would most likely have been even worse.
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Pit Bull Pit Bull
• 2 hours ago

He would have run over half of them and shot the other half.
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Cecelia Colon
• 2 hours ago

While I am sorry this woman's husband was injured, the driver of the SUV did stop after the first hit when the biker deliberately slowed down in front of him. That is when the other bikers surrounded the vehicle and slashed the tires causing him to believe there would possibly be more violence which is why he gunned the vehicle to leave (his wife and daughter were in the vehicle). Then the bikers continued their pursuit and tried to trap the car again. They began the initial encounter trying to provoke a response by blocking the SUV on the road, which is illegal. By following and surrounding the vehicle they continued to incident rather than contact authorities. Far too often these biker groups enjoy cutting in front of other vehicles and daring them to hit them or possibly causing them to swerve into other lanes and other drivers. Just because they are smaller and more maneuverable does not give them the right to cut people off and ride down the middle of lanes and in between other vehicles. As for this woman's husband's friends just being helpful, when is it being helpful to surround a vehicle and slash tires? This is act is provocative and got a response that most people would have done. Plenty of bikers obey the traffic laws and do not take advantage of their size and ability to fit in small spaces without attacking other drivers. The fact that these bikers attacked this man and terrorized his family does not evoke sympathy.
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kafkaesk
• 2 hours ago

I'm usually a sympathetic person. And I am. To the SUV driver! I have none for the bikers. Anyone on the road that day could have easily fallen prey to those thugs. Any minute now, that wife of the injured thug will be suing the SUV driver. That driver will be stuck paying for that thug for the rest of his life.
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James
• 3 hours ago

So we have gun control in the city. Is el Bloombergo going to outlaw range rovers now? This gang caused this problem. They were shutting down the stretch of HHP; if you see them pass other entrance ramps in the video there are bikes that were blocking traffic. Where do the future mayors stand on this behavior? With all e cops in the city, where were they on the highway.
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nomoretraitors
• 4 hours ago

He has Obamacare now. He'll back on his feet in no time
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R A nomoretraitors
• 3 hours ago

thank god you can't be denied for a preivous medical condition
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car
• 4 hours ago

The driver did the right thing and shouldn't be charge for anything he was fearing for his life n his family life and did what he had to.
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strifesong
• an hour ago

"What they don't know about the bike life is that they are a family, they're not out there to hurt people."

So why was this man dragged out of his SUV and slashed on his face and chest?

By the way, Edwin Mieses has a criminal record and was driving without a license at the time of the incident, so yeah. Don't pull this nonsense that the guy was a total saint.

"Edwin E. Mieses, 26, of 17 Bernard Ave., Nov. 28, charged with operating a motor vehicle after license was revoked, illegal possession of a Class D narcotic, operating a motor vehicle with defective equipment and on five outstanding warrants; "
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mguy from toronto
• 3 hours ago

its quite clear from the video that the bikers were looking for trouble. right at the start one of the bikes moves in front of the SUV and brake checks it. When the SUV fails to stop fast enough and slightly collides with the motorcycle, the biker gang goes into vigilante mode. They were looking to create the scenario whereby they could behave as though they were in a mad max movie.
As for the mother and wife of the man who was paralyzed attempting to paint a picture of their son as a victim - nice try. No one is buying it.
All the bikers in this video were an accomplice to what happened and any and all who are identified should be charged and prosecuted equally.
Lastly, these bikers were lucky at how restrained the driver of the SUV actually was, if that was Michael Bryant, former ON attorney general, driving, he probably would have killed at least a couple of the bikers.
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Sam
• 3 hours ago

Man up and come in!!!
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Tik
• 6 hours ago

Why isn't there charges against the suv driver as well. He' s the only one that actually committed a crime. What is it legal to run ppl over now just because he presumed violence was going to occur???
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Fred95 Tik
• 5 hours ago

The driver was fleeing in fear for his life and the safety of his family - the bikers were slashing his tires.

Violence WAS occurring.
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Natalie McClinton Berry
• 2 hours ago

SOME OF THESE COMMENTS ARE JUST RIDICULOUS!!! I DONT CARE HOW SCARED HE WAS YOU JUST CANT RUN PEOPLE OVER TO GET AWAY AND HE SHOULD BE CHARGED. THEY WERENT VIOLENT WITH HIM UNTIL AFTER HE RAN THROUGH THE CROWD MOWING PEOPLE OVER. HE COULD HAVE WENT ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD WHERE HE HAD OPEN ACCESS TO FLEE AND COULD HAVE WENT TO THE NEAREST POLICE STATION. ALL BIKERS ARENT GANG AFFILIATED. IF THEY WERE WHITE MEN ON THOSE MOTORCYCLES I CAN BET YOU HE WOULDN'T HAVE MOWED THEM DOWN LIKE THAT!!!!
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sunshinegal Natalie McClinton Berry
• an hour ago

Sorry, Natalie. This event has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with a group of bikers intimidating, frightening, beating a man. This family was not looking for trouble. They crossed paths with thugs who have no conscience (beat a man in front of his wife and child) and who have no respect for others (blocking the SUV so that they could take charge of the road -us first).
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strifesong Natalie McClinton Berry
• an hour ago

Tell me where in any of what you said that makes it right for people to take the law into their own hands and slash the man on his face and chest with his family in the vehicle looking on? Seriously, I'd like you to explain to me how that's justifiable.

And don't you dare make this a race issue. The people on the bikes were largely Hispanic and I am also Hispanic; race has NOTHING to do with this.
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Karen Hummel
• an hour ago

Is she for real? Every time I'm on any of the parkways...I am constantly cut off by bikers who don't want to slow down in traffic....they drive in between cars, speeding, weaving in and out. They dragged the driver out of his vehicle and beat him in front of his 2 year old daughter?This is why he fled...trying to get away from these animals.
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rickwalters
• 2 hours ago

Sorry I saw that video - the bikers were at fault and therefore i have to side with the driver. Mind you I am 100% pro bikers my family has many members that ride - I just can't support the stupid actions of this group of bikers
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thinkFIRSTtalkSECOND rickwalters
• an hour ago

Really great to see an opinion from someone based solely on the infomation they've seen and not preconceived notions. Respect!
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Jeri Pierce
• 2 hours ago

I feel for the people injured, but it seems the bikers proved the driver's original fear in that they reacted violently in a situation that required a 911 call and the reporting of a license plate. I have to wonder why he was surrounded by these folks. Could they not have pulled to one lane and allowed him to pass by without incident? A great deal of bad judgment on both sides. Very sad.
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nomoretraitors
• 4 hours ago

Another good reason not to drive in NYC

 

[Darrkman]

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Wait. One of these bikers was 42 yrs old??? Damn...his dumb ass didn't know any better.

 

[BGLR1212000]

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Master baker thinks its funny to keep bumping this thread fuuuuck yooo

 

[The Technician]

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2nd biker surrenders in Henry Hudson Parkway chase; no charges filed

NEW YORK (WABC) -- Prosecutors have declined to file charges against the second biker who surrendered in connection with a frightening clash between a large group of motorcycle riders and an SUV driver on the Henry Hudson Parkway that was caught on video and posted on YouTube.

Allen Edwards, 42, of Jamaica, Queens, surrendered to police at the 33rd Precinct Tuesday night. It is believed he is the man who punched the rear window of the SUV with his fists at the end of the video.

He had been held and questioned overnight, and police initially said he would be charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. But the office declined to prosecute at this time, pending further investigation of the entire incident.

Meanwhile, the mother and wife of another biker left paralyzed in the incident are speaking out.

The video of the incident, which started as a fender bender, is disturbing and has gone viral over the past few days. And in addition to the SUV driver who fled the scene fearing for his life and the lives of his wife and 2-year-old daughter, we are also learning more about the man Alexian Lien ran over as he rushed to get away.

That man, 32-year-old Edwin Mieses, suffered broken legs, rib fractures and spine injuries and is paralyzed.

"All his ribs, fractured," mom Yolanda Santiago said. "His lungs are so badly bruised."

Wife Dayana Mieses says her husband was only trying to help the fellow biker who was injured in the initial fender bender.

"Being bent over, helping this guy, is why he got crushed," Dayana Mieses said. ""His aortic valve detached from his heart when the accident happened. Eight out of 10 people don't survive that...but he did. He's a survivor. He's paralyzed from the waist down. His spine was broken in two different places, and there's no hope for that as well."

Christopher Cruz, 28, of Passaic, was arrested in connection with the initial crash and not in the assault. He is charged with reckless endangerment, reckless driving, menacing and endangering the welfare of a child.

He is believed to be the motorcyclist who cut off the Range Rover before he was rear-ended in the crash that started the incident. Detectives said Cruz was charged because his erratic driving sparked the melee.

Cruz was treated for minor injuries, including lower back pain, and released. He was arraigned Wednesday and was ordered by a judge to have his license suspended and passport revoked. The judge granted a $1,500 cash bail or $15,000 bond.

Cruz's lawyer argued that his client was not a flight risk and asked the judge to not seize passport/suspend license, but judge did it anyway.

Mieses said she understands the family in the SUV was scared, but she doesn't believe they were in any danger.

"What they don't know about the bike life is that they're a family, they're not out there to hurt people," she said. "My husband has a heart of gold. He stopped to help the man get up because that's all they do for each other, help each other."

Still, she feels her husband is the victim in this case.

"If he would have stopped after he initially hit that one person and noticed people were trying to help, there was no need for him to take off," she said. "For them to follow him and try to yank him out there car, to take off again and keep on driving and get beat up. If he would have stopped the first time, he would have know they were there to help [Cruz], Because that's what people do. They help each other. Bikers aren't a gang. They're not in a gang."

She says blame lies with Lien, who she says profiled the bikers.

"He's not even charged, and he's the victim," she said. "How is he the victim, because he can walk? How is he the victim, because he can walk his daughter down the aisle. My husband can't do any of that anymore. So I blame him, and he needs to come forward. Because he has a lot of bills to pay. Because for the rest of my life and my husband's life, we're going to be paying bills that, on a job I have, I will not be able to make on my own."

After Lien bowled over the bikers and their motorcycles, the rest of the group gave chase as one of them recorded the incident. The next stop was by the George Washington Bridge ramp, where one biker ripped open the car door, forcing the driver to flee again.

Eventually, the heart stopping chase ended up on 178th Street, where the Range Rover became trapped by traffic with the raging bikers right behind him. The video shows the bikers smashing in the windows, but stops short of the brutal assault that followed.

According to police, Lien was dragged out of the car and beaten in front of his horrified family.

Police are still searching for the man who used his helmet to bash the front window of the SUV. Authorities released a photo of the man, who has a flag sticker of "Guyana" on the rear of the motorcycle.

Anyone with information regarding the incident is asked to call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477).

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I know the wife of the seriously injured biker has to stick up for him and the biker community, but she has got to be smoking something if she thinks that anyone besides her people and those in the biker community would believe that her husband was simply helping the biker in the collision. Everybody saw the video. The biker jumped in front of the range and deliberately slowed up, causing the collision. Repeating the question that one the posters asked earlier, why do you need to stop traffic on the highway with dozens of bikers to help someone in a fender bender? How much help is needed to deal with a minor fender bender? If everybody minded their damn business and kept it moving, allowing insurance and contact information to be exchanged, this issue might not have escalated. I would say the same if there were two cars in a minor fender bender and one of the cars has multiple people in the car hoping out of it and posturing like they are going to menace and intimidate the driver of the other car. Clearly, there were a bunch of bikers surrounding the SUV with intention on doing damage to the SUV (a goal they achieved through a slashed tire and dents in the vehicle) and possibly harm to the driver and passenger. Maybe this woman's husband wasn't a trouble making biker, but just in the wrong place at the wrong time and with the wrong people. Stop crying bitch.

 

[The Technician]

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Wait. One of these bikers was 42 yrs old??? Damn...his dumb ass didn't know any better.

All those years of riding rattled his brain. Probably sucking in too much exhaust from cars in front.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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Hypothetically lets assume the driver of the SUV was reckless, What about the biker that taunted the SUV driver by deliberately slowing down and stopping abruptly in order to get hit?

Reckless too. He was an asshole too.
There are no "good guys" here. But this went from typical macho-road rage bullshit to a serious incident when the suv driver ran people over.

Nah...thats bullshit. They had planned on fucking with the SUV and you can tell by how they surrounded it on the road and trying to brake check the SUV. They tried to take it to that dude cause they had a mob mentality and didn't expect to get all they were asking for and more.

That's not what the video shows. There was no one opening doors (who has a modern vehicle that doesn't have automatic door locks?) until after he had run over their friends.
Watching the vid again, they were setting up to leave when the SUV took off. If the driver was scared, and he had a right to be even though he was just as much of an instigator, lock your doors and call the cops.
I have my own family and would have avoided this because I don't wrap my masculinity up in driving.

I hate how they're referred to as a "gang".

 

[BGLR1212000]

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Reckless too. He was an asshole too.
There are no "good guys" here. But this went from typical macho-road rage bullshit to a serious incident when the suv driver ran people over.



That's not what the video shows. There was no one opening doors (who has a modern vehicle that doesn't have automatic door locks?) until after he had run over their friends.
Watching the vid again, they were setting up to leave when the SUV took off. If the driver was scared, and he had a right to be even though he was just as much of an instigator, lock your doors and call the cops.
I have my own family and would have avoided this because I don't wrap my masculinity up in driving.

I hate how they're referred to as a "gang".

Finally somebody with some damn sense

 

[Brother Blues]

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You know those guys out for a Sunday drive with a wife and baby...always looking to start some shit

 

[Famous1]

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Finally somebody with some damn sense

Alexian Lien's Range Rover was the man attacked by motorcyclists after he accidentally hit a biker
Lien, 33, then crash through the mob in his vehicle, fearing for the safety of his wife Rosalyn Ng, and their 5-month-old childRead more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e4d_1380620099#mOJ18R5YvDR6UJCi.99

so you ran over somebody cause you were in fear for your safety.... stand your ground NY style...

wonder if one of the bikers could have been like "well he mowed down some friends and I feared he would do the same to me o that's why I pulled him out of the truck and laid knuckles on him...

 

[Upgrade Dave]

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You know those guys out for a Sunday drive with a wife and baby...always looking to start some shit

I don' think anyone was looking to start some shit but neither wanted to back down.
Foolish pride cost everybody.

 

[cooliojones]

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I would have ran over all them fuckers!!!!

And you would have lost your life that day.

i blame the dude on the bike who brake check the rover. he started that shit.

No he didn't. He was probably slowing down to let the pack pass. If you ride, you should know this already

One cannot compete against that number of people. Best move was to slow down to 10-15 mph and call the police so they can catch up to you, but don't stop and stay on the e-way.

When you use a car as a weapon, human emotions take over. My first response when I SAW the video on TV was to bash that dudes head in (SUV driver)

Peeps who don't ride don't understand or know what the fuck they are talking about.