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Superheroes rule the world on the CW, and at the network’s Television Critics Association panel Thursday, executive producers and creators ofLegends of Tomorrow, The Flash, Arrow, and Supergirl — including Andrew Kreisberg, Ali Adler, Wendy Mericle, Phil Klemmer, Marc Guggenheim and, of course, Greg Berlanti — were on hand to share details about what’s in store for their caped wonders this season. From those Batman-Batgirl rumors to Calista Flockhart's absence, here’s everything we learned.
There will be a Flash-Supergirl musical crossover episode.
“There will be a musical crossover; there will be a paired episode between Supergirl and Flash during the back half of the year,” said Berlanti. “Some of you know my personal love of musicals and actors who have been in them. We have a number of actors who can sing across all the shows and they will be making very exciting appearances during the back half of the year.”
Berlanti said the musical episode will mostly feature non-original songs and he’s taking requests via his Twitter account. The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow’s Victor Garber has already started pitching. Berlanti said that of all the time-traveling shows on right now his is the only one where Garber “will be singing 'Edelweiss' to a bunch of Nazis.”
A character on one of the shows will come out.
“One of the characters on one of the shows will be exploring their sexuality,” said Berlanti. He later added that “it is a significant character. We’re not trying to be coy about it. The only reason is that we really want the audience to enjoy the character developments and of that story line.”
The villains often get the most attention in the writers rooms.
“We spend sometimes more time talking about the villains than we do some of the heroes,” said Berlanti. “Obviously, they’re driving the plot a lot and that’s setting the tone. It’s reflective of what the hero is going through.”
Those rumors that producers were attempting to have Batman and Batgirl on their shows were false.
“That would be a neat trick if somebody could pull it off but it’s not happening,” said Andrew Kreisberg.
This is the final year for those Arrow flashbacks.
“We always said that Oliver had a five-year journey when he was marooned,” said Marc Guggenheim. “This year, Oliver spends his time in flashbacks in Russia. We know from various seeds we planted in the pilot that he knows how to speak Russian and he became a Bratva (Russian mafia) captain. The flashback story in the first half of the year is going to involve Oliver’s introduction into the Bratva.”
Oliver will get political in the new season of Arrow.
“We do think of this season as going back to our roots,” said Wendy Mericle. “When you come into the season, Oliver will still be out there fighting crime on his own, and he has also taken up the mantel of the city’s mayor. We’re going to be exploring him as a hero, both in a very traditional sense, and also as Green Arrow. We’re going to see a whole bunch of new recruits. The city’s going to have a new criminal, as well as a new vigilante inspired by him.” This vigilante is based on the version created by Marv Wolfman and George Pérez for the comics and will appear in the seventh episode of the fifth season.
The Flash season three picks up with Barry stuck in Flashpoint.
“Last season, we saw Barry make the fateful decision to travel back in time and try to save his mother from the Reverse Flash,” said Kreisberg. “When he did so, he’s created an alternative timeline where his mother’s still alive that’s from a story from the comic books called Flashpoint. The Flash picks up with Barry living in this new version of events and having to deal with both the benefits that’s produced and also the costs.” Flashpoint will also affect the events in Arrow and, in some capacity, Legends of Tomorrow,said Kreisberg.
Calista Flockhart’s Cat is kind of gone from Supergirl. But she’s not forgotten.
“Part of what’s happening in the offices is addressing Cat’s absence and who is stepping up to the plate to take her place,” said Kreisberg. “Calista is such a large presence on the show and such an important one. Taking her out and watching people try to fill her role is definitely part of the story.”
Supergirl will become a family affair almost immediately in season two.
“In the premiere, a threat is going to arise that’s going to require Supergirl and Superman to team up,” said Kreisberg. Berlanti added that “we had always hoped to end last year with him. [But] we wanted to have enough of a year to establish Supergirl as her own character.”
The panelists confirmed that Chris Woods has joined the Supergirl cast as Monel, the mysterious figure in the pod that crashed into National City last season, and that Sharon Leal will be playing Miss Martian in the series.
Kevin Smith is coming back.
The superhero-obsessed director will direct episodes of Flash andSupergirl this season.
That Supergirl ice cream .gif was almost a lot hotter.
“That was actually supposed to be coffee,” said Kreisberg. “It was the director’s idea to make it ice cream and watching Melissa’s face … that was Melissa’s improv.”
A fucking musical
I don't mind Flash being a musical if done properly. If they wrote Barry to more witty were and comical it would be more fitting to the character. Arrow has no place doing a musical episode. I'm ready to give up on Arrow so that would have solidified my displeasure and give up on the show.
A fucking musical
That always happens whenever these shows get popular they start doing musicals and artsy shit.
UPDATED 8/11/2016
Remember this story from July 20? The one about Batwoman and Batman maybe joining "Supergirl" for its second season?
Well, it looks like Bleeding Cool's source was full of shit.
I just asked the producers of the CW's four Greg Berlanti DC Comics superhero shows, who were paneling this morning at a Beverly Hills TCA event, and they said its all bullshit;. They never asked Fox for permission to use Batman on Supergirl. Batwoman is not coming to Supergirl. No one even asked Fox for permission to use Batman.
So I gather the rest of last month's Bleeding Cool rumors are horseshit also. Ditch that source, Bleeding Cool! That source is NO BUENO!!
Also at the Aug. 11, 2016 panel:
* That Kryptonian capsule at the end of "Supergirl" last season will not contain Krypto or Superboy but rather Legion of Superheroes fixture Mon-El.
* Producers confirmed that the time-altering events of May's season finale of "Flash" will affect "Arrow" and "Legends of Tomorrow," but not "Supergirl" or Earth 2 or 3.
* 76-year-old Lance Henriksen will be playing the Justice Society's Obsidion (who in the comics is the son of the Frist Green Lantern, Alan Scott).
* Dolph Lundgren will appear in the Russia-set "Arrow" flashbacks this season.
* We have confirmation that the "Arrow" flashbacks are going away after this coming season.
* There will be a muscial crossover between "Flash" and "Supergirl" that "Godspell"/"Legends of Tomorrow" star Victor Garber may participate in. Unlike Buffy's "Once More With Feeling," the muscial episodes will feature mostly pre-existing songs.
* Shannon Leal wiill be joining "Supergirl" as Young Justice vet Miss Martian.
* "Legends of Tomorrow" only has a 13-episode order this season, but that could expand to 22.
Remember this story from July 20? The one about Batwoman and Batman maybe joining "Supergirl" for its second season?
Well, it looks like Bleeding Cool's source was full of shit.
I just asked the producers of the CW's four Greg Berlanti DC Comics superhero shows, who were paneling this morning at a Beverly Hills TCA event, and they said its all bullshit;. They never asked Fox for permission to use Batman on Supergirl. Batwoman is not coming to Supergirl. No one even asked Fox for permission to use Batman.
So I gather the rest of last month's Bleeding Cool rumors are horseshit also. Ditch that source, Bleeding Cool! That source is NO BUENO!!
Also at the Aug. 11, 2016 panel:
* That Kryptonian capsule at the end of "Supergirl" last season will not contain Krypto or Superboy but rather Legion of Superheroes fixture Mon-El.
* Producers confirmed that the time-altering events of May's season finale of "Flash" will affect "Arrow" and "Legends of Tomorrow," but not "Supergirl" or Earth 2 or 3.
* 76-year-old Lance Henriksen will be playing the Justice Society's Obsidion (who in the comics is the son of the Frist Green Lantern, Alan Scott).
* Dolph Lundgren will appear in the Russia-set "Arrow" flashbacks this season.
* We have confirmation that the "Arrow" flashbacks are going away after this coming season.
* There will be a muscial crossover between "Flash" and "Supergirl" that "Godspell"/"Legends of Tomorrow" star Victor Garber may participate in. Unlike Buffy's "Once More With Feeling," the muscial episodes will feature mostly pre-existing songs.
* Shannon Leal wiill be joining "Supergirl" as Young Justice vet Miss Martian.
* "Legends of Tomorrow" only has a 13-episode order this season, but that could expand to 22.
Yeah,but I think he shaved it on the ship that rescued him....well,don't know exactly how he came back to Star City,since they're doing Russian flashbacks this season
Guessing he went back to the island or got stuck there. I started to fast forward through the flash backs last season. I don't know how long I'm going to stick with season 5.
I believe the flashbacks are in order,if that's the case,he would of left the island and head to Russia,for whatever reason.He couldn't speak Russian when he left the island,so I'm assuming that's where he went,since he was speaking it in season 1 or 2
Here are the highlights:
- Curtis is going to "fail but keep striving" as he becomes Mr. Terrific. Yes, he's donning a mask. "It's happening" this year.
- Curtis is "very driven" and you'll see some of the hurdles he has to pass.
- Curtis is "in flux" professionally.
- Curtis is loyal and more involved with Team Arrow, helping them create new tech. In a sense, he's the team's Cisco, so they won't have to outsource to STAR Labs anymore.
- Rickards pointed out that Ray gave Felicity Palmer Tech, so it's still her company, but she was fired. The set is actually gone, but it can easily be rebuilt. The space was made into something else.
- Kellum thinks Curtis probably still works at Palmer Tech, but they haven't breached the subject yet. But there could be a sense of solidarity to it: if Felicity is gone, he's gone too.
Arrow season 5 premieres Wednesday, October 5 at 8pm on the CW.
You know what.... this felt like some Old School ARROW right here. I just hope they can sustain this.
So the Arrow premiere wasn't awful. Sounds like they listened to some of the viewer complaints and made some course corrections. The "Olicity" relationship has been put on ice, Oliver is bodying bad guys again -- the no fatalities rules has been lifted, and for now Team Arrow is back down to one which is great because it helps the fight choreography not having to track a half dozen heroes.
Although they're still doing flashbacks, hopefully this season they actually have a purpose that meaningfully tie back into the current storyline. And even though they're clearly going to build Team Arrow back up, I'm actually kind of excited since they're gonna bring in one of my favorite obscure DC characters, The Vigilante.
http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/06/16/an-actual-vigilante-is-coming-to-arrow/
Although they're still doing flashbacks, hopefully this season they actually have a purpose that meaningfully tie back into the current storyline. And even though they're clearly going to build Team Arrow back up, I'm actually kind of excited since they're gonna bring in one of my favorite obscure DC characters, The Vigilante.
http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/06/16/an-actual-vigilante-is-coming-to-arrow/
* There will be a muscial crossover between "Flash" and "Supergirl" that "Godspell"/"Legends of Tomorrow" star Victor Garber may participate in. Unlike Buffy's "Once More With Feeling," the muscial episodes will feature mostly pre-existing songs.
Well seeing as the two lead actors on both shows were once regulars on Glee,this was bound to happen
Well seeing as the two lead actors on both shows were once regulars on Glee,this was bound to happen
I seriously doubt the Olicity relationship is done..now way the producers leave it like that,especially when Diggle mentioned it to Oliver.
True. The fight scenes look fantastic and new cinematographer is good too. Like they finally going to explain the bratva.
But it's still 'off'
So far Cutty isn't working for me as the villain.
Felicity looking good but the new boyfriend?
I'm going to give it time but with so many better shows out...it's tough.
The season premiere was actually pretty good. I was prepared to jump off the ship early this season. I'm glad that Thea won't be apart of the team anymore. Glad Arrow no kill policy is off the table. There's no way to save the Mr Terrific character at this point in my eyes.
Agreed...
I am pissed that they decided their first black hero from the comics had to be portrayed like that.
Oh it's back.....
Damn vacation has me lost with shows.
Damn vacation has me lost with shows.
They followed the Fox format. Build up the network on low cost black programming then go mainstream.
Wow. So the other fag is going to be Mr Terrific? Man, can't make this shit up
Is it just me....
Or did Diggle make a Kaepernick comment with the whole flag thing?
Or did Diggle make a Kaepernick comment with the whole flag thing?
....So i'm binge watching Arrow....
Felicity is the most annoying character on this show and i'm only on season 3.
I heard about her annoying all the DC Tv fans, but jesus......
Felicity is the most annoying character on this show and i'm only on season 3.
I heard about her annoying all the DC Tv fans, but jesus......
Her character only gets worst as the show progresses
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