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I actually like that Thea and even Diggle are leaving. He was being written wrong. But they fucked up making Mr Terrific a homo and a geeky nerd at that. The ratings need to massively drop off for the show runners to make the necessary changes.
I think both Arrow and the Flash have taken the wrong messages out of their successes - they think that if you double down on the angst and hand wringing and not focus on the fun then that is a substitute for deeper, interesting stories. This whole thing is reminding me of the bad old times of Smallville where Clark had all of this power and was constantly down and dejected, he was in love with a woman (Lana) and they could never get it together. His best friend becomes his enemy for no real reason, I mean it was like being on a merry go round - Merry Go rounds are fun at 5 but get old by 7 yo - you need something more - that going in circles shit is boring.
One last thing, in the finale, Oliver said to Felicity that he was out and that he came back because tof that Laurel is dead. He should have said - I was out and I came back because your lying sneaky ass was working with the team behind my back while I just wanted to be a guy fucking you and trying to be happy. He should have just straight called her out on her bullshit if nothing els e but for fan fucking service because of her you lied to me BS is old...fucking Merry Go Rounds
One last thing, in the finale, Oliver said to Felicity that he was out and that he came back because tof that Laurel is dead. He should have said - I was out and I came back because your lying sneaky ass was working with the team behind my back while I just wanted to be a guy fucking you and trying to be happy. He should have just straight called her out on her bullshit if nothing els e but for fan fucking service because of her you lied to me BS is old...fucking Merry Go Rounds
so every scene the goons had machine guns untill the last scene when they were fighting the crowd. ahah suddenly hand to hand ahha.
@ansatsusha_gouki u right i liked laurel too lol. the reason why she was good on the flash is because they threw some cgi on her. it didnt look lame like on arrow.
@ansatsusha_gouki u right i liked laurel too lol. the reason why she was good on the flash is because they threw some cgi on her. it didnt look lame like on arrow.
I think both Arrow and the Flash have taken the wrong messages out of their successes - they think that if you double down on the angst and hand wringing and not focus on the fun then that is a substitute for deeper, interesting stories. This whole thing is reminding me of the bad old times of Smallville where Clark had all of this power and was constantly down and dejected, he was in love with a woman (Lana) and they could never get it together. His best friend becomes his enemy for no real reason, I mean it was like being on a merry go round - Merry Go rounds are fun at 5 but get old by 7 yo - you need something more - that going in circles shit is boring.
One last thing, in the finale, Oliver said to Felicity that he was out and that he came back because tof that Laurel is dead. He should have said - I was out and I came back because your lying sneaky ass was working with the team behind my back while I just wanted to be a guy fucking you and trying to be happy. He should have just straight called her out on her bullshit if nothing els e but for fan fucking service because of her you lied to me BS is old...fucking Merry Go Rounds
Well f*cking written
So exactly how did Darhk lose his magic?
And what happened to his daughter?
Looks like they may break up the couple they created for Mr. Terrific, cause they hardly show the other guy and stress he is unhappy.
And what happened to his daughter?
Looks like they may break up the couple they created for Mr. Terrific, cause they hardly show the other guy and stress he is unhappy.
I think both Arrow and the Flash have taken the wrong messages out of their successes - they think that if you double down on the angst and hand wringing and not focus on the fun then that is a substitute for deeper, interesting stories. This whole thing is reminding me of the bad old times of Smallville where Clark had all of this power and was constantly down and dejected, he was in love with a woman (Lana) and they could never get it together. His best friend becomes his enemy for no real reason, I mean it was like being on a merry go round - Merry Go rounds are fun at 5 but get old by 7 yo - you need something more - that going in circles shit is boring.
One last thing, in the finale, Oliver said to Felicity that he was out and that he came back because tof that Laurel is dead. He should have said - I was out and I came back because your lying sneaky ass was working with the team behind my back while I just wanted to be a guy fucking you and trying to be happy. He should have just straight called her out on her bullshit if nothing els e but for fan fucking service because of her you lied to me BS is old...fucking Merry Go Rounds
You can't forget,how Felicity got upset at Oliver,because he moved his son and the mother of his kid out of the city...Not only,did she get upset with that,but she got upset that he didn't tell her about his son,before that...
But somehow the episode before that,she just told her mother,Lance must of had a reason to keep a secret from her...
They've made Felicity's character unlikable the past two seasons.
Can't forget,how she just magically walked out of the wheelchair and didn't say a word
It's crazy,because I never liked Laurel,especially when she became Black Canary and all of a sudden they made her likable this season,but killed her off.
Stephen Amell Addresses Whether Flash Finale Affects Arrow Season 5
When The Flash season came to an end, Barry Allen had undoubtedly changed everything. By going back in time (again) and this time stopping his mother Nora's death, there simply must be a major ripple effect on that world. After all, Barry saw one of the othertime-traveling Barry's fade out of existence almost immediately, not a very good sign.
But while The Flash will certainly have to deal with those issues, it doesn't sound like it'll spread out to the other DC Comics-based shows on The CW, or at least not Arrow.
"I don't know," Arrow star Stephen Amell frankly told Comicbook.com in an interview. He reiterated what he told us at the CW Upfronts, that he's ready for Arrow to go back to a more grounded world. "I do know that we’ve done a lot of work on Arrow to introduce the other shows, for lack of a better term, and now that that’s all done, we’re focused on doing the things that we do well for Season 5."
When asked if that meant bringing it "back to basics," Amell said, "Yes, that's exactly right. Arrow is at its best when we’re dealing with problems in Star City. We’re not a time-travel show, we’re not a multi-Earth show, though obviously [we do that] with crossovers and stuff like that. We’re Arrow, we deal with Star City, and I feel like we’ll be better off focusing on that."
http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/05/25/stephen-amell-addresses-whether-flash-finale-affects-arrow-seaso/
Wtf???
This dude was the damn voice of reason for the entire network...
Unless we read between the lines and he is saying they need to be treated better and go back to when the show was good and fire the current showrunners.
You can't forget,how Felicity got upset at Oliver,because he moved his son and the mother of his kid out of the city...Not only,did she get upset with that,but she got upset that he didn't tell her about his son,before that...
But somehow the episode before that,she just told her mother,Lance must of had a reason to keep a secret from her...
They've made Felicity's character unlikable the past two seasons.
Can't forget,how she just magically walked out of the wheelchair and didn't say a word
It's crazy,because I never liked Laurel,especially when she became Black Canary and all of a sudden they made her likable this season,but killed her off.
100% correct...
Do not forget, she also LIED when they moved to that new town, Oliver was actually happy she lied and kept helping team Arrow behind his back and convinced him to return.
On a related note, someone early mentioned that Dhark launched 15,000 nuclear weapons - and neither Rip Hunter on Legends or Team Flash thought it was important enough to send reinforcement to a Guy who shoots Arrows - a guy who is one step above an aboriginal hunter -
and somehow - Felicity doesnt get on the phone and says Cisco - we need your help at Star Labs to stop the missiles that is also heading to Central City
Greg Berlanti and crew - Have a happy Summer and oh btw
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Arrow's Stephen Amell Addresses Olicity And Negative Attacks On Show
During a recent interview in support of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, Arrow star Stephen Amell bashed TV viewers who have been sharply critical of Arrow and, in particular, of "Olicity."
Over the last two seasons, Arrow has seen its audience deeply divided over the show's central romantic plot. Since Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak started actively courting one another, there has been a vocal contingent of fandom who have complained that the relationship has overwhelmed other aspects of the show.
For much of that time, there was an escalating online feud between Olicity "shippers" and fans who either wanted the romantic elements of the show played down, or who supported a relationship between Oliver and Laurel Lance -- who, as the series' Black Canary, is the TV analogue to Oliver's longtime love interest in the comics.
Frustration with both Olicity and with numerous other elements of the show -- including last year's characterization of Ra's al Ghul and the continued use of flashbacks at a point where a vocal contingent of fans no longer sees their purpose -- has driven an ongoing sense of frustration and negativity, especially on platforms like Twitter and Reddit.
(Note: controversy surrounding the Season Four finale, which aired Wednesday, was not directly addressed in the interview, which was filmed prior to the finale's airdate.)
Amell dismissed most of those complaints, telling Larry King that he believes most fans still enjoy television "the traditional way," meaning that they simply watch it and don't engage with other fans on social media. He called Twitter "overblown" and blamed its often-toxic environment on the fact that the platform allows users anonymity (unlike Facebook, LinkedIn, or other platforms which require a real name and/or a e-mail address).
“If you’re going on the attack for fictional characters, you’re probably not real fans of the show,” Amell said, saying that he believes some fans don't seem to know how to build up their favorite characters without tearing someone else's down.
That's been common among the shipping debates; anecdotally, this writer has firsthand experience with both pro- and anti-Olicity shippers being hostile to other fans, cast members, showrunners, and writers. Marc Guggenheim, who engages with the pro-Olicity fans frequently on his Tumblr and Twitter, was inundated with angry comments and personal attacks following the decision to kill off Laurel earlier this season. Some fans believe that Guggenheim was deliberately provoking them in the episode, by having Laurel's final words onscreen be about Felicity.
Fans have also harassed actors; Amell, being highly visible on social media, gets a lot of complaints but it's (not surprisingly, if you know the internet) the female leads who get the most abuse and threats. Fans have been quick to report trolls who harass Emily Bett Rickards on Twitter frequently enough that it's become part of the narrative and controversy. Katie Cassidy -- who played Laurel -- was also often harassed on Twitter by pro-Olicity fandom.
After Cassidy's character was killed, Olicity fans started a #ByeByeBirdie hashtag to celebrate her death.
Shortly after Laurel was killed, the Arrow writers asked fans who their favorite superhero was and, tongue firmly in cheek, I tweeted that "I've always been fond of Black Canary." The response I got was a Twitter troll who harassed me, accused me of "bullying" actress Emily Bett Rickards (I've met her. She's lovely, and we got along just fine, thanks), and some of whose tweets were ultimately removed, either by the troll or by Twitter after I reported the tweet barrage.
So, with a chunk of the audience exasperated by the prevalence of Olicity and another chunk watching the show primarily for that plot, what does the future hold? Amell was quiet on the subject when King asked him.
Arrow will head back into production in July with an eye on a likely October premiere date for Season Five. Expect plenty in the way of announcements right around Comic Con International: San Diego in the summer.
Arrow airs at 8 p.m. ET/PT on The CW.
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/28/arrows-stephen-amell-addresses-olicity-and-negative-attacks-on-s/
two videos inside the link
During a recent interview in support of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, Arrow star Stephen Amell bashed TV viewers who have been sharply critical of Arrow and, in particular, of "Olicity."
Over the last two seasons, Arrow has seen its audience deeply divided over the show's central romantic plot. Since Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak started actively courting one another, there has been a vocal contingent of fandom who have complained that the relationship has overwhelmed other aspects of the show.
For much of that time, there was an escalating online feud between Olicity "shippers" and fans who either wanted the romantic elements of the show played down, or who supported a relationship between Oliver and Laurel Lance -- who, as the series' Black Canary, is the TV analogue to Oliver's longtime love interest in the comics.
Frustration with both Olicity and with numerous other elements of the show -- including last year's characterization of Ra's al Ghul and the continued use of flashbacks at a point where a vocal contingent of fans no longer sees their purpose -- has driven an ongoing sense of frustration and negativity, especially on platforms like Twitter and Reddit.
(Note: controversy surrounding the Season Four finale, which aired Wednesday, was not directly addressed in the interview, which was filmed prior to the finale's airdate.)
Amell dismissed most of those complaints, telling Larry King that he believes most fans still enjoy television "the traditional way," meaning that they simply watch it and don't engage with other fans on social media. He called Twitter "overblown" and blamed its often-toxic environment on the fact that the platform allows users anonymity (unlike Facebook, LinkedIn, or other platforms which require a real name and/or a e-mail address).
“If you’re going on the attack for fictional characters, you’re probably not real fans of the show,” Amell said, saying that he believes some fans don't seem to know how to build up their favorite characters without tearing someone else's down.
That's been common among the shipping debates; anecdotally, this writer has firsthand experience with both pro- and anti-Olicity shippers being hostile to other fans, cast members, showrunners, and writers. Marc Guggenheim, who engages with the pro-Olicity fans frequently on his Tumblr and Twitter, was inundated with angry comments and personal attacks following the decision to kill off Laurel earlier this season. Some fans believe that Guggenheim was deliberately provoking them in the episode, by having Laurel's final words onscreen be about Felicity.
Fans have also harassed actors; Amell, being highly visible on social media, gets a lot of complaints but it's (not surprisingly, if you know the internet) the female leads who get the most abuse and threats. Fans have been quick to report trolls who harass Emily Bett Rickards on Twitter frequently enough that it's become part of the narrative and controversy. Katie Cassidy -- who played Laurel -- was also often harassed on Twitter by pro-Olicity fandom.
After Cassidy's character was killed, Olicity fans started a #ByeByeBirdie hashtag to celebrate her death.
Shortly after Laurel was killed, the Arrow writers asked fans who their favorite superhero was and, tongue firmly in cheek, I tweeted that "I've always been fond of Black Canary." The response I got was a Twitter troll who harassed me, accused me of "bullying" actress Emily Bett Rickards (I've met her. She's lovely, and we got along just fine, thanks), and some of whose tweets were ultimately removed, either by the troll or by Twitter after I reported the tweet barrage.
So, with a chunk of the audience exasperated by the prevalence of Olicity and another chunk watching the show primarily for that plot, what does the future hold? Amell was quiet on the subject when King asked him.
Arrow will head back into production in July with an eye on a likely October premiere date for Season Five. Expect plenty in the way of announcements right around Comic Con International: San Diego in the summer.
Arrow airs at 8 p.m. ET/PT on The CW.
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/28/arrows-stephen-amell-addresses-olicity-and-negative-attacks-on-s/
two videos inside the link
On a related note, someone early mentioned that Dhark launched 15,000 nuclear weapons - and neither Rip Hunter on Legends or Team Flash thought it was important enough to send reinforcement to a Guy who shoots Arrows - a guy who is one step above an aboriginal hunter -
and somehow - Felicity doesnt get on the phone and says Cisco - we need your help at Star Labs to stop the missiles that is also heading to Central City
Greg Berlanti and crew - Have a happy Summer and oh btw
Exactly... That's why Arrows finale should have been shown a week before Flash. They could have probably gotten away with acting like the Flashs problem was going on the exact same time as Arrows problem. Like felicity calls up Cisco and Cisco's like... Yeah we have universe ending stuff on our end as well but they don't cut to him. Hell they could have shown her just mention that we contacted Cisco and Kathlyn but they have an even bigger problem.
They are going to have work on this shared universe next season especially when you add Supergirl in the mix. You can't have a universe altering event on one show and not have it effect the others.
Dude trippin. Now they are trolls. But when they wanted you in the DC movies then they were credible lolArrow's Stephen Amell Addresses Olicity And Negative Attacks On Show
During a recent interview in support of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, Arrow star Stephen Amell bashed TV viewers who have been sharply critical of Arrow and, in particular, of "Olicity."
Over the last two seasons, Arrow has seen its audience deeply divided over the show's central romantic plot. Since Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak started actively courting one another, there has been a vocal contingent of fandom who have complained that the relationship has overwhelmed other aspects of the show.
For much of that time, there was an escalating online feud between Olicity "shippers" and fans who either wanted the romantic elements of the show played down, or who supported a relationship between Oliver and Laurel Lance -- who, as the series' Black Canary, is the TV analogue to Oliver's longtime love interest in the comics.
Frustration with both Olicity and with numerous other elements of the show -- including last year's characterization of Ra's al Ghul and the continued use of flashbacks at a point where a vocal contingent of fans no longer sees their purpose -- has driven an ongoing sense of frustration and negativity, especially on platforms like Twitter and Reddit.
(Note: controversy surrounding the Season Four finale, which aired Wednesday, was not directly addressed in the interview, which was filmed prior to the finale's airdate.)
Amell dismissed most of those complaints, telling Larry King that he believes most fans still enjoy television "the traditional way," meaning that they simply watch it and don't engage with other fans on social media. He called Twitter "overblown" and blamed its often-toxic environment on the fact that the platform allows users anonymity (unlike Facebook, LinkedIn, or other platforms which require a real name and/or a e-mail address).
“If you’re going on the attack for fictional characters, you’re probably not real fans of the show,” Amell said, saying that he believes some fans don't seem to know how to build up their favorite characters without tearing someone else's down.
That's been common among the shipping debates; anecdotally, this writer has firsthand experience with both pro- and anti-Olicity shippers being hostile to other fans, cast members, showrunners, and writers. Marc Guggenheim, who engages with the pro-Olicity fans frequently on his Tumblr and Twitter, was inundated with angry comments and personal attacks following the decision to kill off Laurel earlier this season. Some fans believe that Guggenheim was deliberately provoking them in the episode, by having Laurel's final words onscreen be about Felicity.
Fans have also harassed actors; Amell, being highly visible on social media, gets a lot of complaints but it's (not surprisingly, if you know the internet) the female leads who get the most abuse and threats. Fans have been quick to report trolls who harass Emily Bett Rickards on Twitter frequently enough that it's become part of the narrative and controversy. Katie Cassidy -- who played Laurel -- was also often harassed on Twitter by pro-Olicity fandom.
After Cassidy's character was killed, Olicity fans started a #ByeByeBirdie hashtag to celebrate her death.
Shortly after Laurel was killed, the Arrow writers asked fans who their favorite superhero was and, tongue firmly in cheek, I tweeted that "I've always been fond of Black Canary." The response I got was a Twitter troll who harassed me, accused me of "bullying" actress Emily Bett Rickards (I've met her. She's lovely, and we got along just fine, thanks), and some of whose tweets were ultimately removed, either by the troll or by Twitter after I reported the tweet barrage.
So, with a chunk of the audience exasperated by the prevalence of Olicity and another chunk watching the show primarily for that plot, what does the future hold? Amell was quiet on the subject when King asked him.
Arrow will head back into production in July with an eye on a likely October premiere date for Season Five. Expect plenty in the way of announcements right around Comic Con International: San Diego in the summer.
Arrow airs at 8 p.m. ET/PT on The CW.
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/28/arrows-stephen-amell-addresses-olicity-and-negative-attacks-on-s/
two videos inside the link
WILLA HOLLAND CALLS OUT WB FOR SHUTTING DOWN "ARROW'S" SUICIDE SQUAD PLANS
"Arrow" star Willa Holland believes the DC Cinematic Universe could learn a lesson from Marvel. During an interview with The Mirror, she expressed her frustration with the disconnect between DC's films and television series, why the Suicide Squad was axed from the show and more.
"We were about season two when they started telling us we had to start basically killing off the Suicide Squad that we were starting to build on our own," Holland recalled. "We were actually trying to build that on our own on the show, and I guess once DC found out they were going to be doing their own movie of it, we had to ax all of the characters before we even got to show them, which was a little annoying at first."
"Then when Stephen found out there was going to be a Justice League [movie] it only seemed -- rightly so -- he would be playing Green Arrow on it as well as that Grant [Gustin] would be playing the Flash," she continued. "It seemed like the right normal answer, and -- once they said no -- you can't really fight against them for it, because they are the people that gave us a job in the first place. So you just have to sit there on your hands, like okay, I get it!"
"Marvel does it in their own weird right, kind of mash between 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' and the movies and stuff. So it's a little upsetting because you know it is possible and it can be done and how good it would be if it was done," she added.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...tting-down-arrows-plans-for-the-suicide-squad
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/arrows-willa-holland-hits-out-8079268
"Arrow" star Willa Holland believes the DC Cinematic Universe could learn a lesson from Marvel. During an interview with The Mirror, she expressed her frustration with the disconnect between DC's films and television series, why the Suicide Squad was axed from the show and more.
"We were about season two when they started telling us we had to start basically killing off the Suicide Squad that we were starting to build on our own," Holland recalled. "We were actually trying to build that on our own on the show, and I guess once DC found out they were going to be doing their own movie of it, we had to ax all of the characters before we even got to show them, which was a little annoying at first."
"Then when Stephen found out there was going to be a Justice League [movie] it only seemed -- rightly so -- he would be playing Green Arrow on it as well as that Grant [Gustin] would be playing the Flash," she continued. "It seemed like the right normal answer, and -- once they said no -- you can't really fight against them for it, because they are the people that gave us a job in the first place. So you just have to sit there on your hands, like okay, I get it!"
"Marvel does it in their own weird right, kind of mash between 'Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.' and the movies and stuff. So it's a little upsetting because you know it is possible and it can be done and how good it would be if it was done," she added.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...tting-down-arrows-plans-for-the-suicide-squad
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/arrows-willa-holland-hits-out-8079268
thats exactly what he's saying. the was great season 1 and 2. for the sake of expanding tv universe the core of arrow was sacrificed. a show that a crime drama. once the supernatural stuff came in to make way for flash and legends , it fucked up the flow of the show. the writers was throwing everything at the wall. shit they let interns write an episode ( 4x16 "Broken Hearts). amell just want them to get back to the core of the show. i do too.
Arrow: Willa Holland Blasts WB For Squashing Suicide Squad Plans
As DC's Cinematic Universe continues to take place, some actors from DC's television shows still seem a little upset about being left out. During an interview at MCM Comic Con, Arrow star Willa Holland stated frustration with the divide betweenDC's television and movie universes. "Marvel does it in their own weird way - the mash between Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and the movies and stuff," Holland told the Daily Mirror. "So it's a little upsetting because you know it is possible and it can be done and how good it would be if it was done."
One example Holland gave was the casting of Ezra Miller as the Flash in the DC Cinematic Universe over Grant Gustin, who plays Barry Allen in the CW television show. "Basically you're giving the world two different Flashes all of a sudden," Holland said. She added that Gustin would "kill it" playing the Flash on the big screen.
Holland also added that plans for the Suicide Squad movie interfered with Arrow's plans for Harley Quinn and other DC characters. Although the Suicide Squad appeared in several episodes during the first few season of Arrow, the show's versions of Deadshot and Amanda Waller were both killed when the show was informed they interfered with plans for a movie.
However, despite those frustrations, Holland admitted it was no good arguing or complaining about the changes, since DC/Warner Bros were the people who gave them their jobs in the first place. So, she said, "You just have to sit there on your hands!"
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/30/arrow-willa-holland-blasts-wb-for-squashing-suicide-squad-plans-/
As DC's Cinematic Universe continues to take place, some actors from DC's television shows still seem a little upset about being left out. During an interview at MCM Comic Con, Arrow star Willa Holland stated frustration with the divide betweenDC's television and movie universes. "Marvel does it in their own weird way - the mash between Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D and the movies and stuff," Holland told the Daily Mirror. "So it's a little upsetting because you know it is possible and it can be done and how good it would be if it was done."
One example Holland gave was the casting of Ezra Miller as the Flash in the DC Cinematic Universe over Grant Gustin, who plays Barry Allen in the CW television show. "Basically you're giving the world two different Flashes all of a sudden," Holland said. She added that Gustin would "kill it" playing the Flash on the big screen.
Holland also added that plans for the Suicide Squad movie interfered with Arrow's plans for Harley Quinn and other DC characters. Although the Suicide Squad appeared in several episodes during the first few season of Arrow, the show's versions of Deadshot and Amanda Waller were both killed when the show was informed they interfered with plans for a movie.
However, despite those frustrations, Holland admitted it was no good arguing or complaining about the changes, since DC/Warner Bros were the people who gave them their jobs in the first place. So, she said, "You just have to sit there on your hands!"
http://comicbook.com/2016/05/30/arrow-willa-holland-blasts-wb-for-squashing-suicide-squad-plans-/
well the way the writers are now they wouldve only fucked up the suicide squad anyways
Probably so,but Warner Bros fucked up by letting the Arrow producers to kill off everyone,because they were perfect in the Arrow-verse....They're the reason,why I really enjoyed the first two seasons,because you had people on Oliver's level and some of them were attached to Team Oliver's storyline.
The way Slade Wilson played chess in Season 2 was genius
If the movies and TV shows are separate,why can't the TV show do Suicide Squad it makes no sense at all.
On top of that,I think not letting the Arrow producers not using Suicide Squad fucked up plans for the show.
Unless maybe that whole universe-altering thing IS going to happen and Arnell isnt allowed to say anything about it(NDA signing)
She should direct most of these comments at Zack Snyder,since he was the one who basically said "None of the DC TV actors would fit in our movie-verse"..
or television versions of the Trinity for that matter
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/stephen-amell-responds-fan-backlash-oliver-felicity-future-arrow-season-5-1562823?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news&yptr=yahoo
Arrow season 4 finale may have turned out to be great for Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak as they defeated Damien Darhk and saved the world from a nuclear attack but fans think otherwise. The ending failed to impress the loyal fans of the show and they took to social media to share their disappointment.
Disappointed fans even changed the Arrow's subreddit to Marvel's show Daredevil season 2. Actor Stephen Amell responded to the backlash while appearing on Larry King Live.
Amell told the host: "I think Twitter largely is overblown. I'm not saying that these people aren't passionate and I'm not saying that their opinions shouldn't matter but I do think that their voices tend to be so loud that we think the crowd is much bigger than it actually is. I happen to think that it's much smaller. Most people still enjoy a show in the traditional way, which is to watch it... and not to tweet constantly throughout it."
When asked about Oliver and Felicity's future in the show, The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 actor said: "For some reason, different people who are fans of the show have seemed to split up into different fractions. But again, I really do think that it's a few people with very loud voices. And I feel like if you are going on the attack for fictional characters, that you're probably not real fans of the show."
The season 4 ended with Thea Queen and John Diggle quitting the Arrow team, thereby leavingOliver and Felicity with the "job of cleaning up Star City". Arrow season 5 returns this October on The CW. No premiere date has been announced so far.
Arrow season 4 finale may have turned out to be great for Oliver Queen and Felicity Smoak as they defeated Damien Darhk and saved the world from a nuclear attack but fans think otherwise. The ending failed to impress the loyal fans of the show and they took to social media to share their disappointment.
Disappointed fans even changed the Arrow's subreddit to Marvel's show Daredevil season 2. Actor Stephen Amell responded to the backlash while appearing on Larry King Live.
Amell told the host: "I think Twitter largely is overblown. I'm not saying that these people aren't passionate and I'm not saying that their opinions shouldn't matter but I do think that their voices tend to be so loud that we think the crowd is much bigger than it actually is. I happen to think that it's much smaller. Most people still enjoy a show in the traditional way, which is to watch it... and not to tweet constantly throughout it."
When asked about Oliver and Felicity's future in the show, The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 actor said: "For some reason, different people who are fans of the show have seemed to split up into different fractions. But again, I really do think that it's a few people with very loud voices. And I feel like if you are going on the attack for fictional characters, that you're probably not real fans of the show."
The season 4 ended with Thea Queen and John Diggle quitting the Arrow team, thereby leavingOliver and Felicity with the "job of cleaning up Star City". Arrow season 5 returns this October on The CW. No premiere date has been announced so far.
http://screenrant.com/arrow-stephen-amell-season-4-fan-response/
Arrow: Stephen Amell Addresses Fan ‘Nastiness’ Towards Show
Arrow has gone through a lot of changes in its four seasons on the air. What began as a one-man show of violent vigilante vengeance has morphed into a team superhero effort, the dangers to one neighborhood in Star City now escalated to the threat of global nuclear destruction. Spin-off shows The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow have added more characters and crossover plot twists to the mix, further complicating the original themes of the show.
Some of the changes were welcomed enthusiastically by fans, including Oliver’s season 2 transition from his isolated revenge missions to building relationships and becoming more of a true hero. Over the past four years, however, some characters and plot lines have divided viewers. The various romance elements, constantly shifting allegiances, exasperating flashbacks, and addition of supernatural elements to DC TV’s most grounded show haven’t all gone over well. Negative reactions to the season 4 finale were especially strong on social media, peaking with Arrow’s subreddit switching the topic to Netflix’s Daredevil in protest.
Before that controversial finale even aired, Arrow star Stephen Amell was feeling frustrated with all the hate on social media. In an interview on Larry King Now [h/t ComicBook.com], the actor spoke about the “factions” that develop online, and why he thinks there’s too much emphasis on certain corners of the Internet:
“I think Twitter largely is overblown. I’m not saying that these people aren’t passionate and I’m not saying that their opinions shouldn’t matter, but I do think that their voices tend to be so loud that we think the crowd is much bigger than it actually is. I happen to think that it’s much smaller. Most people still enjoy a show in the traditional way, which is to watch it … and not to tweet constantly throughout it.”
Amell goes on to explain that he thinks Twitter isn’t valuable because of the anonymity that leads to a lack of accountability. He insists he has a great relationship with fans in person, where he says negative opinions are expressed in a “relaxed, calm way, that’s much longer than 140 characters.”
As with many things online, the biggest attacks are often towards the female characters and the actresses who portray them. While valid criticisms can be made about how Laurel Lance (Katie Cassidy) and Felicity Smoak (Emily Bett Rickards) have been written onArrow, many of the “factions” Amell describes are mostly concerned with which woman is a better love interest for Oliver. The actor seems mostly bemused by the “Olicity” handle bestowed on his character’s relationship with Felicity, but he still finds the online battles disappointing:
“I think there are sections of the fandom that take to liking a certain character by way of attacking another character. I feel like if you’re going on the attack for fictional characters, you’re probably not real fans of the show.”
Despite the entertaining villain and enjoyable lighter moments this year, few could argue that there weren’t some major problems with Arrowseason 4. The Olicity storylines became contentious by committing the same errors many TV series do, by dragging out a potential relationship too long, and then quickly sabotaging it in a way that damages the likability and credibility of beloved protagonists. That said, a poorly-written episode of Arrow shouldn’t rise to the level of hate-filled tirades and death threats to the cast and crew.
This level of animosity on social media also works against its ultimate goal. When the lead actor says he’s perfectly willing to hear legitimate criticism, but admits he considers any comments on Twitter as just “noise,” it shows that any hope to influence the trajectory of a show is likely fruitless. Anyone who’s ever been in fandom knows that it can be tough to keep warring “shippers” from taking over, but if fans could stick with the noble geek tradition of biting, clever commentary over irrational lashing out, there’s a greater chance of showrunners actually listening to what the viewers want.
Arrow: Stephen Amell Addresses Fan ‘Nastiness’ Towards Show
Arrow has gone through a lot of changes in its four seasons on the air. What began as a one-man show of violent vigilante vengeance has morphed into a team superhero effort, the dangers to one neighborhood in Star City now escalated to the threat of global nuclear destruction. Spin-off shows The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow have added more characters and crossover plot twists to the mix, further complicating the original themes of the show.
Some of the changes were welcomed enthusiastically by fans, including Oliver’s season 2 transition from his isolated revenge missions to building relationships and becoming more of a true hero. Over the past four years, however, some characters and plot lines have divided viewers. The various romance elements, constantly shifting allegiances, exasperating flashbacks, and addition of supernatural elements to DC TV’s most grounded show haven’t all gone over well. Negative reactions to the season 4 finale were especially strong on social media, peaking with Arrow’s subreddit switching the topic to Netflix’s Daredevil in protest.
Before that controversial finale even aired, Arrow star Stephen Amell was feeling frustrated with all the hate on social media. In an interview on Larry King Now [h/t ComicBook.com], the actor spoke about the “factions” that develop online, and why he thinks there’s too much emphasis on certain corners of the Internet:
“I think Twitter largely is overblown. I’m not saying that these people aren’t passionate and I’m not saying that their opinions shouldn’t matter, but I do think that their voices tend to be so loud that we think the crowd is much bigger than it actually is. I happen to think that it’s much smaller. Most people still enjoy a show in the traditional way, which is to watch it … and not to tweet constantly throughout it.”
Amell goes on to explain that he thinks Twitter isn’t valuable because of the anonymity that leads to a lack of accountability. He insists he has a great relationship with fans in person, where he says negative opinions are expressed in a “relaxed, calm way, that’s much longer than 140 characters.”
As with many things online, the biggest attacks are often towards the female characters and the actresses who portray them. While valid criticisms can be made about how Laurel Lance (Katie Cassidy) and Felicity Smoak (Emily Bett Rickards) have been written onArrow, many of the “factions” Amell describes are mostly concerned with which woman is a better love interest for Oliver. The actor seems mostly bemused by the “Olicity” handle bestowed on his character’s relationship with Felicity, but he still finds the online battles disappointing:
“I think there are sections of the fandom that take to liking a certain character by way of attacking another character. I feel like if you’re going on the attack for fictional characters, you’re probably not real fans of the show.”
Despite the entertaining villain and enjoyable lighter moments this year, few could argue that there weren’t some major problems with Arrowseason 4. The Olicity storylines became contentious by committing the same errors many TV series do, by dragging out a potential relationship too long, and then quickly sabotaging it in a way that damages the likability and credibility of beloved protagonists. That said, a poorly-written episode of Arrow shouldn’t rise to the level of hate-filled tirades and death threats to the cast and crew.
This level of animosity on social media also works against its ultimate goal. When the lead actor says he’s perfectly willing to hear legitimate criticism, but admits he considers any comments on Twitter as just “noise,” it shows that any hope to influence the trajectory of a show is likely fruitless. Anyone who’s ever been in fandom knows that it can be tough to keep warring “shippers” from taking over, but if fans could stick with the noble geek tradition of biting, clever commentary over irrational lashing out, there’s a greater chance of showrunners actually listening to what the viewers want.
^^^^
I suggest Ollie besta chill...
those crazy twitter folk are what keeps the CW lights on.
I suggest Ollie besta chill...
those crazy twitter folk are what keeps the CW lights on.
Amell knows that the show's been uneven after season 2. Shit, he's tired of them dealing with meta humans on arrow. He wants to get back to the core of the show. I hope they do. It's funny, laurel use to annoy the shit out of me, but felicity switch places with her. Once laurel die, I realize how much I started liking her.
Ok now I see the issue with Arrow... It's WB. I don't get this logic at all. You have a flash TV show and a Flash movie, but you can't have two versions of the Suicide Squad. I wonder how many other characters are off limits because of WB interference.
yup
GREAT question
I felt the same exact way about Laurel,she was annoying as hell,especially when she became Black Canary and the season they decided to make her good,they kill her off
What's sad about the whole thing,they could of used the TV show to promote the movie and vice versa.I don't understand,how you lay the foundation of something and then force the TV producers to scrap it,just because you're making a movie about them.
Me and a few others were saying Suicide Squad would make a great spin-off TV show around that time,before the the announcement of the movie
They could of did a three of four episode arc for Suicide Squad
Damn they covered up the graphic.
cold as ice....
I felt the same exact way about Laurel,she was annoying as hell,especially when she became Black Canary and the season they decided to make her good,they kill her off
What's sad about the whole thing,they could of used the TV show to promote the movie and vice versa.I don't understand,how you lay the foundation of something and then force the TV producers to scrap it,just because you're making a movie about them.
Me and a few others were saying Suicide Squad would make a great spin-off TV show around that time,before the the announcement of the movie
They could of did a three of four episode arc for Suicide Squad
they don't hear you....
Me and a few others were saying Suicide Squad would make a great spin-off TV show around that time,before the the announcement of the movie
They could of did a three of four episode arc for Suicide Squad
Exactly... Suicide Squad would have been the next spin-off from the Arrowverse that I would have made after Flash. Anti-heroes that are actually Supervillians are untapped gold that neither D.C. nor Marvel have decided to use. I think these type of projects work better for a tv series then a movie, because it would allow real character development. I will continue to say that Marvel is just fucking sleeping on a Thunderbolts Tv series. Thunderbolts would be an amazing Tv show.
It seems like Warner Bros don't know what the hell they're doing,especially with the way they fucked up vibe with Arrow.Arrow could of been light years better than any show out right now,including Agents of Shield and Flash.
As,for Marvel,I don't think they're dedicated to another series on regular TV,but I won't be shocked,if they decided to make another one though
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