Anyone who is a part of the ADOS movement I am putting you on ignore

I personally don't even want a check I laid out what I wanted and people still said NAH to that lol


We don't need cash directly.

We just need access.

Don't give me 20k which is what the maximum would probably be per person.

Education on all levels should be FREE - then watch how many people that don't identify as black will suddenly become african american

Health care should be FREE- then watch how many people identify and african american

Business Loans should no longer be loans but GRANTS- same theme as above.

Insurance for life and house and car should be FREE, full coverage.

We should be exempt from paying state and government taxes- not 1 cent period.

that's just a start.

Bruh I mentioned free education as a reparation and got called a coon for pages and also got attacked for saying our kids should aspire to be data scientists.

I was told a black person would be a fucking idiot choosing to be an engineer over a construction worker.
 
Nobody has ever cut us a check
And the ppl they cut checks to are better off
But with us it wouldn't help lol

I don't care about the so called leadership of ados

I'm not riding with anything other than we deserve our due period.

The problem is money directly
The only way to get rid of racism is to get rid of white people

So no checks and no getting rid of white people so the argument is to keep things how they are then?
How many times we gotta say this fam? We've given the logical alternatives and to date I personally have never seen a rebuttal just more "what's a check gonna do?" I wish somebody would tell these niggas that when payroll came around every two weeks.
 
Just curious. If you agree that disgruntled, frustrated black people should demand more from the DNC, how would YOU go about making that happen in an effective way that hasn't been tried and failed in the last 50 years? I'm usually in lock step with your political opinions but I'm kinda surprised you've taken such a hard line on black people that are willing to try something new to achieve political results.

these people are democratic shills, nothing more, nothing less..

If you ask them what would they do if they're unhappy black folks they'll say you broke, get ya weight up.

bougie negores who cloth in symbolic gestures.
 
The problem is we all don't live the same. Some of us aren't struggling to survive. Shit most of my friends and neighbors pull six figures. Own homes and property. Yeah black folks got it bad, but unless your plan eliminates racism (the actual cause of this) then what? Simply "cutting a check" doesn't fix that.

you proved my point about the most of you democratic shills, we live different lives, this is race vs class. nothing more, nothing less.
 
But the people who stayed home weren't us.
Also the places he won in weren't places where black people are a powerful voice
Every election always comes down to battle states where they're undecided on racism
Ohio
Florida
lol
And guess who swings the elections every time?
All the things with gerrymandering and all that is 100000% real and only targeted at us because of how we vote.

my stance is we need something for these votes other than an "I told you so"
or
"You're welcome for not sending us all into hell----- so it'll just be us in the hell we're used to"
I mean again i don't think I could be any clearer that I know we had and have the highest turnout, that blame for poor turnout lies with basically everyone else, and that we deserve and should seek more for our vote. I will state once more unequivocally we are both on the same page there, so that's not even a part of a convo we need to have moving forward. Same same same.
I understand your positions and I understand the frustration of not getting shit for your participation.
We are anti-participation trophy in everything but voting
and in voting we get participation trophies while others get tangibles.
The loudest dudes don't represent everything in any movement and I'm not even pro ados tenants as a whole
But i def feel like we need something and I feel like the time is now for me as an adult to try and do something about it.
I don't want to be old and be like well it's on yall like I was out here doing something and I wasn't like so many of the people that are old now are doing who we watched just chill and shit in the 90's lol
again I agree. I do recognize also though, that our situation is not directly analogous to any other group. The efforts to fuck our progress up are orders of magnitude greater than the next most oppressed people.

It's because of that that we require a different caliber of strategy. And, until I see a sound plan otherwise, I believe the most efficient path to getting what we deserve is MORE participation, not less. Man the fact that they work as hard as they do in the shadows to erode our ability to participate should be all anyone needs to be like oh shit ok I need to do the opposite of that.

I am not with this goal w no plan shit. It's tantamount to signal jamming. Which they do enough without us jumping in the fucking booth w them helping fuck up our own shit. To just be out here like we deserve more and leave it open ended with an implied "I understand why the don't vote crowd is like that" is irresponsible, especially when our collective understanding of civics and law is so thin and people are looking for cues and leadership internally from voices we can trust.

It should be "We deserve more for our vote, and this is how we get that." Not we deserve more and we should just withdraw from the process until they give it to us. That shit is not going to work. And again, ALL I NEED TO KNOW THAT IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS TO KEEP US FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS.

Folding our arms thinking taking our Nintendo home is gon make them come running after us is the dumbest possible strategy. Hell it's not one.
I personally don't even want a check I laid out what I wanted and people still said NAH to that lol


We don't need cash directly.

We just need access.

Don't give me 20k which is what the maximum would probably be per person.

Education on all levels should be FREE - then watch how many people that don't identify as black will suddenly become african american

Health care should be FREE- then watch how many people identify and african american

Business Loans should no longer be loans but GRANTS- same theme as above.

Insurance for life and house and car should be FREE, full coverage.

We should be exempt from paying state and government taxes- not 1 cent period.

that's just a start.
10000000% agree
 
That's not checks handed out.
What you described is bare minimum responsibilities to a functioning government.
That's not checks being handed out on TOP OF the bare minimum to call yourself a functioning government.

For instance.

Flint still has dirty motherfucking water it's been YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So where is the money from the fucking government that is sworn to protect it's people and provide quality of life to its residents under its care?
How can anyone win any election in the state of Michigan in Flint or and especially stateside without running on the platform of we will fix Flint's water because we don't want that to happen to any of you?


Why would anyone in Flint vote for anything at fucking all?
To keep not being able to drink the fucking water while the people they elect don't give a fuck that the kids are being poisoned, have been poisoned and will continue to be with NO FANFARE FROM ANY GOVERNMENT ENTITY??????????


Why the fuck isn't the U.N. IN FLINT?
Well we can argue if it’s checks or not but it’s money. Money is being handed out and it’s going where exactly?
 
I personally don't even want a check I laid out what I wanted and people still said NAH to that lol


We don't need cash directly.

We just need access.

Don't give me 20k which is what the maximum would probably be per person.

Education on all levels should be FREE - then watch how many people that don't identify as black will suddenly become african american

Health care should be FREE- then watch how many people identify and african american

Business Loans should no longer be loans but GRANTS- same theme as above.

Insurance for life and house and car should be FREE, full coverage.

We should be exempt from paying state and government taxes- not 1 cent period.

that's just a start.
I agree 100 percent and this is much more realistic than everyone getting a big check.
 
The offers for "refferations" are coming in by the minute as we speak.........

China/Chinese are offering free gravy sauce upgrades for life.

Mexico has offered to sell Taco Tuesday to LeBron James.

Germany has offered free mantainance on all the broke down high mileage BMW/Benzs in Atlanta.

India has granted free coffee at any 7-11 during black history month.

Dubai has offered refuge snd shelter to over 500K ADOS IG Thots.

Eskimos got all the free ice you can haul, until global warming ends that deal.

Netherlands are sending free weed and overweight PAWGs on 4/20.

Nigeria is sending 500 tonnes of Jollof rice. Thats cool even though Sierra Leone has the best.

The KKK is offering free Anaconda Malt Liquor to all on MLK Day.

........man, these sound like some pretty damn good deals, cant wait foe some LeBron Tuesday Tacos.
 
This aint for the ADHD dummy crowd. Im like white folks. I know how to hide knowledge in a book/long post so the dumb niggas cant find it. We bout to get on the Arc and leave you behind anyway.

Once it gets past 500 characters yall crack babys lose interest. Stant wanting to pop an addys in shit. I dont want you to go JuiceWrld Retard and die with a mouth full of em' ODing reading my shit. Stay dumb nigga.....LOL!!

U buggin.

That post was longer than a John Coltrane solo.
 
Bruh I mentioned free education as a reparation and got called a coon for pages and also got attacked for saying our kids should aspire to be data scientists.

I was told a black person would be a fucking idiot choosing to be an engineer over a construction worker.


We need all of it

Build full networks in engineering and construction

We need access

We just literally saw a world where black ppl got reparations on watchmen

And they shut was sweet
 
U buggin.

That post was longer than a John Coltrane solo.
It took me 5 minutes to read my own shit. If your attention span is shorter than that your are competing with goldfish and crack babys for the shortest one.

God forbid they ever put the secret to eternal wealth in pussy in a novel. Some of yall would see the online version posted here and be quick to post Colin even thought that post contained the keys to your happiness.

But I disgress, ignorance aint to be argued with.
 
It took me 5 minutes to read my own shit. If your attention span is shorter than that your are competing with goldfish and crack babys for the shortest one.

God forbid they ever put the secret to eternal wealth in pussy in a novel. Some of yall would see the online version posted here and be quick to post Colin even thought that post contained the keys to your happiness.

But I disgress, ignorance aint to be argued with.

How long it take you to write it?

It's not that cats don't wanna read, it's that cats ain't got time.

The average user on Reddit spends 16 minutes on the site. Reading your post would take up damn near 30% of their time.

Long-windedness is just as annoying as having a low-attention span.

Food for thought.
 
So you see forcesteeler said Obama didn't do anything about Police brutality while in office. I posted proof that he actually did and that this was reversed by Trump. Guarantee you he will move the goal posts to talk about some other shit, say what Obama did wasn't shit, and continue to spew the same debunked bullshit over. That's why these threads are a waste of time. It's like arguing with a Fox News viewer.
Obama did not do anything about Police Brutality. I don't give a fuck about a law. I want to see action, I want to see some of these cops held accountable. Trust me he did not do shit.

Just like I said.
 
How long it take you to write it?

It's not that cats don't wanna read, it's that cats ain't got time.

The average user on Reddit spends 16 minutes on the site. Reading your post would take up damn near 30% of their time.

Long-windedness is just as annoying as having a low-attention span.

Food for thought.
Its called Google voice recognition homey.Talking is much quicker than typing.

I would never use Reddit reading as a measure for intelligent people. LOLnn But do you home slice!!
 
......this just in .....more "reaperashuns" offers comin thru.....

Italy has offered to no longer use the word "mooli" when referring to ADOS. All other blacks with still be subject to ridicule.

France will be paying in "french fried Chicken" and will be sending a new staute of Liberty in the image of Oprah.

Japan is making a new Pokemon character named Negrochoo.

Saudi Arabia will be contributing 100 hand picked virgins from Prince Ashef Ali Malik Shahbaz's 3rd harem.

Greece is sending 2 shpping tankers of olive oli to combat black ashiness in America.

.........more resports as they happen...........
 
Brotha,

unlike most of the lemmings in this thread, I’m well aware of history. There were so-called black slave owners and there were white slaves during that time period. Chattel slavery was started because of a so-called black African named Anthony Johnson, who sued to make his indentured servant a work for perpetuity.

the union had to wage war against the south because the wealth was in the south and the Union was broke. The Civil War has absolutely nothing to do with liberation of freeing the slaves and everything to do with money. Lincoln (who was so-called black based on the 1 drop rule) wanted to deport the so-called black PoWs and had no love for the people. He was not killed because he opposed slavery, he was killed because he did not want to cooperate with the international bankers.

A check is not going to cut it because it will just end up right back where it came from. There has to be a redistribution of resources.

for example, South Africa is taking all farmland from whites and redistributing to the natives. They are even paying them market value for it (which is over the top considering it was stolen). That is just one example of what needs to happen here but will it? No because there is little unity and the “I got mine” crowd would never support it. The democrats or republicans would immediately claim it is racist yet you have sellouts in this thread that would agree.

So whats your plan??Keep on arguing like bitches?? Keep ALL the money in America?? What's the point of that? When you say the people you do understand that not all Africans sold slave nor all whites were slave holders.

The place that suffered the most damage from this entire process is Africa and the place that benefied the most was America. There are ways to calculate the liabilities and losses of all parties in involved.

I dont want to see a sorry for slavery check get jacked off, only to end up in the hands of the rich upper class who pimp ADOS the most. It would be nice to see Popeyes be the biggest company on the planet and a black man buying Chick Fil A so the Mac in Cheese would be decent but they only way is to put some of that money into Africa.

Build ADOS cities or put the money into Ghana and Liberia if the Nigerians dont want a piece of the action. These same negrows talking ying yang will be the same ones talking Pan African investment if a check gets cut.

Money makes niggas attitudes change quickly, so if s check gets cut, I expect yall Africans and your scamming ass cousins to come up with ways to spend that money.

Somebody needs to open a Nigeran King of Diamonds in Ajbuja/Lagos with the fattest asses in Pan Africa. I want to throw ECO dollars and Ben Franklins at bitches at the same damn time. African, Carribban, and ADOS asses tweking in unison. Pan African cuisine in the kitchen serving the best the world has to offer.

But some of you rather not have that beautiful scene. Ya'll just wanna argue bout not getting that little ass check taxed like its gonna realky make a big difference.
Thanks for that .05% of my White Guilt Money, nigga like that really gonna make a difference or help me get that Chil Fil A franchise, I got my eye on.

I rather buy a few Cold Stones and Krispy Kremes in the motherland cus I heard ysll Nigerians like that shit. Better getting it from me than some smelly curry Indian who prays to some hindu elephant/cow that he can get rich quick an leave your shitty country.

I rather stick around and build the place up, not rape and pillage then leave you high and dry. Im sure the Chinese only want your business and not your women too since they have a 30% shortage of them. Ask the kidnapped Hindus how it is to be a China Bride and dont think they have the same plans for Africa.

Africa needs this. ADOS could use it. This could kickstart a lot for black people worldwide. Arguing with broke niggas about money you dont have is pointless.
Russian bots or not, my discussion when it comes to compensation will be with the parties that violated ADOS the most and not the people making the most noise on the internet.

I know hiw yall niggas are anyway. Once the money starts flowing it will be brother this, sister that, Pan Africa forvevah!! We don't need you to co-sign anyway. Just set up the vehicle so we can stash any new wealth. Make Africa easy for ADOS to invest in.
 
This aint for the ADHD dummy crowd. Im like white folks. I know how to hide knowledge in a book/long post so the dumb niggas cant find it. We bout to get on the Arc and leave you behind anyway.

Once it gets past 500 characters yall crack babys lose interest. Stant wanting to pop an addys in shit. I dont want you to go JuiceWrld Retard and die with a mouth full of em' ODing reading my shit. Stay dumb nigga.....LOL!!
"I'm like white folks" is more of a statement about who you are than that rambling wall of horseshit you posted prior.
 
I agree 100 percent and this is much more realistic than everyone getting a big check.

I don't think we're at the realistic stage
We or they or anyone has to be obscene to even get the conversation started

Like to begin we have to go fucking insane in order to negotiate to practical

If they were about good and practical there wouldn't be racism in the first place
 
Brotha,

unlike most of the lemmings in this thread, I’m well aware of history. There were so-called black slave owners and there were white slaves during that time period. Chattel slavery was started because of a so-called black African named Anthony Johnson, who sued to make his indentured servant a work for perpetuity.

the union had to wage war against the south because the wealth was in the south and the Union was broke. The Civil War has absolutely nothing to do with liberation of freeing the slaves and everything to do with money. Lincoln (who was so-called black based on the 1 drop rule) wanted to deport the so-called black PoWs and had no love for the people. He was not killed because he opposed slavery, he was killed because he did not want to cooperate with the international bankers.

A check is not going to cut it because it will just end up right back where it came from. There has to be a redistribution of resources.

for example, South Africa is taking all farmland from whites and redistributing to the natives. They are even paying them market value for it (which is over the top considering it was stolen). That is just one example of what needs to happen here but will it? No because there is little unity and the “I got mine” crowd would never support it. The democrats or republicans would immediately claim it is racist yet you have sellouts in this thread that would agree.

Im well aware the civil war wasnt faught for the single purpose of freeing the slaves. My point is not to penalize people and their decendants who lives may have been lost in th Civil War. States righs and the wealth and of the South were legit causes but they doesnt stop the fact which te soilders died in the process of freeing us.

Not one single army from Africa has ever spilled a single drop of blood for us or ever gave s damn. African rarely give shit to any of our causes or stugggles. Yet, ADOS have donanted millions to starlving Africans and had rallies to make white companies and schools divest from apartied South Africa.

There is no denying that slavery could be alive and well had the South won. Whether the people were white or black you cant paint a broad brush when it comes to slavery. The apartied that followed slavery has to be accounted for too. So that doesn't totally put all whites off the hook.

What I find funny is the resistance from the African and Caribbean crowd. Like ADOS is really going to gain much by taxing you for anything. Too put it plain and simple you are too broke to sue and should not be part of the conversation. So I guess you must be worried about blacklash from whites upset about paying for the past.

I guess us asking for shit in the United States makes you Johnny Come Latelys look bad. Like you dont want to get dirty looks at work from your white cowkers, like they give a rats ass about you anyway. They only like you cus you are a cheap worker and talk less (attitude) than a ADOS when the job is fucking you over.

I guess some of you are afraid the gig is up in the US. The US is deporting more people while slowing down immigration. You have to kiss white ass to stay here. And if you ever plan on bringing family to the US you have to be a good woker drone in the process. ADOS kicking up noise brings attention to the dark immigrants which could endanger some staying here.

You have no other reason to be so against reperations. This inst going to financially bring harm to you, so again, whats the point of your protest? Most against reperations dont have any good reasons on why ADOS shouldn't recieve it except the argument that white people will never do it and its a waste of time to ask.

Then you tell us not to use are biggest barganing chip in negotiations because whites qont cooperate. Is this how yall run Africa, LOL, cus I see why it has problems and blacks control little. No backbone to stick up to whites and little skill at the negotiation table.

Lastly, the ADOS tribe is the richest on earth. Africa may have richer rich people but the average Africa is dirt poor and the poorest ADOS in the US makes enough to live well in Africa. We dont need YOUR money or wealth. We just need the debt owed by whites cleared up. This has nothing to do with you until its time to spend the money or reap the benefits.

And with potentially billions coming to Africa in the form in investmens, I cant see why you are so stupid to debate this. But from my experience Africans can be highly sensitive, which leads to stupid fights that last for centuries.

So basically shut the fuck up until we get the bag bitches. If we can get these fragile whites folks to kick in, then so be it.
 
We don’t have time for this bullshit in 2020 we went through something similar to this in 2016 and look what we got in the White House. whoever is a part of that movement fuck you.

Sincerely

easy b
Thank you. I cannot say this truth but I am glad you did.
 
It's all so complicated. ADOS is concerned with getting specific tangibles for the black vote. Who could disagree with that? At the same time, no doubt that the black community does see trickle down benefits off SOME democrat policies. The stuff you listed like health care, climate change, consumer protection, etc is meant to protect white America first. Black Americans happen to benefit.

I think ADOS should frame the argument differently. The official should be under constant pressure to act. From the start. We all know how fast shit can get done and how rhetoric works. If tangibles aren't provided, the elected official is not getting reelected or a push to oust them at first chance. Instead of voting and just letting these crooks chill, constant pressure should be applied. As a community, we have never really applied pressure in my lifetime.

There are ways for everyone to come together without all the name calling. It's just there is a lot of frustration and a major disagreement on how to get shit done. As individuals, we're all doing fine. As a community, not so much. It's clear something has to change, but how to get that change is causing a huge rift.
I mean again i don't think I could be any clearer that I know we had and have the highest turnout, that blame for poor turnout lies with basically everyone else, and that we deserve and should seek more for our vote. I will state once more unequivocally we are both on the same page there, so that's not even a part of a convo we need to have moving forward. Same same same.
again I agree. I do recognize also though, that our situation is not directly analogous to any other group. The efforts to fuck our progress up are orders of magnitude greater than the next most oppressed people.

It's because of that that we require a different caliber of strategy. And, until I see a sound plan otherwise, I believe the most efficient path to getting what we deserve is MORE participation, not less. Man the fact that they work as hard as they do in the shadows to erode our ability to participate should be all anyone needs to be like oh shit ok I need to do the opposite of that.

I am not with this goal w no plan shit. It's tantamount to signal jamming. Which they do enough without us jumping in the fucking booth w them helping fuck up our own shit. To just be out here like we deserve more and leave it open ended with an implied "I understand why the don't vote crowd is like that" is irresponsible, especially when our collective understanding of civics and law is so thin and people are looking for cues and leadership internally from voices we can trust.

It should be "We deserve more for our vote, and this is how we get that." Not we deserve more and we should just withdraw from the process until they give it to us. That shit is not going to work. And again, ALL I NEED TO KNOW THAT IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS TO KEEP US FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS.

Folding our arms thinking taking our Nintendo home is gon make them come running after us is the dumbest possible strategy. Hell it's not one.

10000000% agree

See below. I've been making a similar argument for literally years. The work isn't done once we cast votes, we have to hold folks accountable. Other groups flex their political power. These folks want to give up power by not voting. They also don't want to donate funds, but that's a different subject.



http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/delegate-count-tracker

Hillary has the nomination all but locked up at this point. However, I think it's important that she gets nailed down for a 100 day plan for black issues like she was willing to state for immigration issues and Bernie was willing to state for banks. Making her a one term President if she doesn't follow through. It has to start early though and we have to get qualified candidates ready to primary early. By the end of her first year at the latest. Sitting out midterms etc, isn't the answer. That is when all the racists vote in people that make congress a freaking hell hole.
I don't think that's the case. Trump is just engaging in non stop fuckery.

I've said from the beginning, Hillary is a perfect opportunity for black people to exert their political power, IF we hold her accountable. If she gets into office and does what she says she will do, it's a win. If she doesn't show any movement by the end of the first year and the black community comes up with a candidate to primary her with, and causes her to lose or fight hard for reelection, its a win. It will send a message not to take our support for granted. These candidates don't have to be our friends to work our agenda. If they won't do the right thing because it is right, then they can be forced to do the right thing, because it is in their interest and benefits them to do so. (Keeping their job.)

Until she actually gets elected tho, other than brainstorming and vetting possible primary candidates, there isn't anything really to be done from that standpoint.
And unfortunately those are the only two choices we have at the moment. As I've said elsewhere before, the time to prepare a candidate to primary Hillary is NOW. Or at least with in the first 18 months of her term, if the police reforms and work she has promised to do on behalf of POC do not come to fruition. If she keeps her word, its a win. If she doesn't and gets primaried and loses, or even comes close to it, it sets the precedent and teaches others they need to keep their word to earn our vote, puts fear in those candidates and it's also a win. These candidates don't have to be our friend or have their "heart right" to work our agenda. The motivation to keep their job is sufficient.

Right now people are advocating not voting, as though a Trump presidency would not make us any worse off. He is proposing a nationwide stop and frisk, and if he can pick the SCOTUS to deny any challenges to it, he could actually eventually get away with it. White people who know the undertone to these types of laws, yet also fear government overreach, will still encourage them because the target POC, even though at anytime they can be used to target them as well. So they would screw themselves into the police state they fear. Not voting is not strategic. Voting for a third party who can't win is not strategic. Trump is far too dangerous and far too many are too blind to see it. I don't see why the fact he has alt-right racists running his campaign and setting his agenda is lost on so many people. They are trying to get their agenda of white supremacy and a resurgence of Jim Crow realized through Trump.
They are supposed to post her keynote in full when it becomes available. It's possible she went more in-depth. But I've basically said the same thing. I can understand if people don't see Hillary is progress, but the important thing is that we don't lose any progress. We would lose progress under Trump. His campaign is being run but alt-right racists, and you don't want them to be able to set the race narrative for the next 4-8 years. Things are bad enough as it is, but at least people at the very least give lip service to racial equality, and strive for the appearance of it. Trump and his supporters want to be openly racist, and we don't need to have it normalized that that type of behavior is ok. He validates their racism and hate. It's not a strategy to just not vote or to vote 3rd party, when the 3rd party candidate is not viable.

Aside from the racial tension at home, just how the world sees us at large would be affected. I don't know if they world leaders would be too scared to say anything to him for fear he'd go off, or if they would intentionally troll him in the hopes that he goes off.

To quote myself:

I've said from the beginning, Hillary is a perfect opportunity for black people to exert their political power, IF we hold her accountable. If she gets into office and does what she says she will do, it's a win. If she doesn't show any movement by the end of the first year and the black community comes up with a candidate to primary her with, and causes her to lose or fight hard for reelection, its a win. It will send a message not to take our support for granted. These candidates don't have to be our friends to work our agenda. Their heart doesn't have to be in the right place. They don't have to like us or we them. If they won't do the right thing because it is right, then they can be forced to do the right thing, because it is in their interest and benefits them to do so. (Keeping their job.)
Hillary's numbers didn't dip until the GOP started a sustained propaganda attack on her. One of them admitted that was the goal during one of the press conferences.

Regardless of whether or not she was well liked, the responsible thing to do was keep DT out of office and find someone to primary her next time. You don't concede power to a group determined to target every group of your coalition. We knew they were coming for gay folks, immigrants, women's rights, black folks, health care, native American water rights and entitlements. But many in each one of those groups focused on the help they perceived dems giving to all the others. I still don't believe it.
I don't really want to rehash this again. I've said the same thing I've said for the past four years. Vet the nominee, get their promises, commitments or whatever. Monitor for progress, keep the pressure on, and if they don't keep their commitments and show no evidence on trying to bring them to pass, then primary them and pull support. Set an example so the next candidate doesn't make the same mistake. We stop at the first step and then complain.

In the current political atmosphere, we don't have the luxury of sitting out like we did before. With the gutting of the voting rights act, when the GOP gets in power, they craft and execute ways to diminish our vote, gerrymander areas, and will pay no penalty for it. By the time people decide to get back in the game, then they have to have 3-4x the dem vote to equal the political power of 1x the GOP vote. GA had over 50,000 majority black registrations on hold. If your mom named you De'Shaun and someone entered it as De Shaun or DeShaun on some pubic record at some time, you were ass out, and the GOP SoS had carte blanche to do what he wanted. All the legal actions came too late. HOWEVER, had we voted dem and kept power in states instead of losing governorship's, then our vote wouldn't be diluted or suppressed. Medicaid would be expanded. We wouldn't have a lawsuit trying to end protections for preexisting conditions and the ACA. We wouldn't have the GOP doing like they did in Ohio exempting white areas from work requirements to get food stamps, while black area's even with higher unemployment rates, still had to be subject to them. Who is in power determines how much we get fucked over. If nothing else, letting them win is letting the racist rhetoric of Trump win and influence others when they see there are no consequences for it. Why do you want to help white supremacy spread? You think DeSantis is going to pull back on his racist rhetoric when it basically worked? Why shouldn't other white folks be emboldened to do exactly what he did?
 
Sooooo are we back to being from Africa instead of native Americans enslaved on our own land?

3% of the Africans made it to the United States. That doesn’t mean there weren’t any but the majority of us were here before 1492, 1619, or whatever other date you want to use.

do you know there were thousands of “free” so-called blacks in the south during that time?

do you know that there were so-called black slave owners?

do you know that there were white slaves owned by so-called blacks?

you may need a history lesson or 50 but i have no problem helping you out.
 
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