Anyone who is a part of the ADOS movement I am putting you on ignore

LOL!! The OP is passive aggressive attention whoring.

Don't worry, I got a solution to all this "tribal" bickering. LOL!! This shit is funny as fuck. 500 years later and oceans apart and yall still on the same shit. The crying on both sides is why, I rarely get into these discussions. But Im willing to be civil if people are willing not to troll and be mature.

If any "reparations" are ever given to the ADOS tribe, I feel that there should be major stipulations that make any recipients of any funds invest at least 50% back in African countries that their ancestors were taken from.

Any "Africans" or 'Carribeans" contribution/penalty, to funding any such endeavor would be minimal. ADOS ins't seeking legal for losses incurred for being taken from Africa. I.E. we want money for our old mudhut villages and way of life back in Africa 500 years ago.

ADOS are seeking damages for the pain and suffering incurred during our indentured servitude in the United States. ADOS are just the same as any person who has been kidnapped and sex trafficed and is seeking to sue the people who enslaved that person for the torture incurred during their capture.

We can debate on the semantics on why people were captured in Africa 500 years ago. The slave traders and their decendants have the opportunity and option to make peace with what happened. I.E. Ghanas open policy to citizenship and land giveaways.

What is undeniable and well-documented is what took place in America after slaves arrived. I'm not gonna sit here and cry for you and piece by piece give you our sob story. What I will say is Africa as a whole suffered from what took place and a major part of any "settlement" should be included to help the areas that suffered the most population losses.

If any "Africans" are too prideful or too stupid to understand that this potentially could be a major economic boost to West Africa are just plain ignorant or stubborn. Projects like Eko Atlantic would finish in the matter of five years instead of lagging for decades like it currently is.

ADOS investors would cut much friendlier investment deals and would be more likely to recycle the money and invest any profits back in Africa than any Asian, Indian, or White person. Let us BUY land in Africa and we are more likely to farm and build on it than destroy and ectract it for resources like oil and minerals like the Chinese are currently doing.

This isnt about ADOS vs Pan Africa. This isnt ADOS vs Everybody. As I stated before, no one is after anything that you have. You are to broke to compensate us anyway. The average black person in the United States is worth way more than the average person from any Pan African nation.

Suing any African nation is like suing a homeless man when I could be suing a rich person or insurance company for liability. You aren't worth the time and energy and shouldnt be in the conversation when seeking compensation. The 50 richest families in Nigeria have 80% of the wealth. Yet they probably are worth half collectively as the Rothschild's who are worth 300 billon.

Dont get me stated about the Corporate, University, and Government wealth. ADOS reparations could be trillions. The only country who can afford to pay us is the place that fucked us over. Any other country on this earth would go bankrupt before any ADOS saw a measly 1-10k check.

I'm glad Africans and Caribbeans have pride and are willing to work hard for what they want in life. You guys shouldn't let ADOS, Whites, Asians, or Indians shit on you. But the hate anything ADOS thing has got to stop. Trust me, you NEED if you want Africa to prosper in the next 20 years.

ADOS have the most trained/talented black people on the planet when it comes to science, medicine, government, military, entertainment and education. I know Nigerians like to say they are everywhere on the planet but they haven't had acess to the same resources as ADOS in the US. Newsflash, we been running a lot of shit for while folks for centuries in the USA and are more in entriched in access to the resources of the most powerful nation the planet has ever seen.

No place has ever had as much influence as the US nor will any nation ever will. The USA is the first and only unquestioned GLOBAL power in history. ADOS dispite the BS has played a big part in running the show and has gained a lot of knowledge and wealth doing it.

This inst to shit on Africa but HBCUs are better than most West African schools. Who better than Neil deGrasse Tyson who is the world most known/best scientists to rebuild your schools. You think any foreign powers respect your militaries? How you gonna protect all that newfound wealth. Do you trust the Chinese to protect you or would you be better off with a Colin Powell running your Army/Navy's and not trying to stage a coup every 5 years.

Would you rather have and American influenced democracy or the clusterfuck thats currently African leadership? Africans given the choice, chose places like Atlanta, NY, Houston, Detroit, and London because of strong black communities and the leadership that built them over anything currently in Africa. Why not bring that type of leadership back ro Africa instead of the same Kings/families having all the wealth and influence dispite never showing the talent to build a city let alone a nation.

As far ass pop culture and influence, Tyler Perrys power move will overshadow anything Nollywood could do in the next 25 years. Any ADOS will tell you we get love damn near everywhere we go worldwide except the place we are born. Yet, Africans are looked down opon damn near everywhere they go.

Im not saying that right. But the perceptions of Africans vs ADOS is vastly different worldwide. As soon as people hear my American accent anywear people tend to drop the African/Nigeran scammer prejudice that they have for Africans. Africans have a bad reputation worldwide and are treated as such unless they are rich. ADOS could play a big part in building social bridges for our Africans counterparts. Meaning we have to stick up for Africans when ADOS see they are being treated badly by anyone, even other Africans.

American gang bangers and drug dealers dont make it out the US often were as Nigerians are worldwide drug traffickers and scam artist are web and domestically based in a lot of places. My point is that Africans need more Black Panthers and Coming to Americas to change the perceptions of Africans.

The movie Crazy Rich Asians made a lot of white folks jealous and got them to start thinking about all those dollar store shopping sprees funds aint just going to stanky sweat shop kids in China. Movies are big propaganda tools and CRA was a stunnting highlight real of Asians passively aggressively flexing their wealth.

Trust me, Asians had a blast shitting on white folks and had no second thoughts on "you tilly kneegas" feelings. Frutiy Tylers studio will play a big part in building the image of black people around the globe for the next 25-50 years. Im sure Tyler has no plans on making Africans look bad but please respect the fact that ADOS like Perry are still making major breakthroughs like this and it wont be an overnight process to solve any of our problems.

The plan needs to be to work together to secure the bag and how to invest to make a better Pan Africa. Im deeply against givng ADOS a one time payoff unless its in gold bars. I dont want forgiveness bought off only to be reinvested in racist/prejudiced white businesses. Hell, Im for Union soldiers/abolitionist decendants getting a check/relief to. This could also be the blueprint for places like the UK, Spain, and Portugal to pay up too. Tell that ol' bitch the UK Queen she cant pay in pussy but maybe her swirled daughter in law can.

But the majority of that investment needs to go to Black American neighborhoods and African settlements. I'm not willing to kill or die for any type of "reparations' but it were to be in serious discussion because enough ADOS felt it was worth seeking and white folks want to clear their conscience and move on then so be it. Lets be smart and stop all the trbial shit that got us here in the first place and build a better world for ourselves whether or whether or not anyone helps us out.
 
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Right? Don't pay attention to those tactics they are using to trick you with. Listen to my plan to trick you. :rolleyes:
There is no plan to get tricked with unless you are a low-level thinker led by emotions, which is the whole point of that video and why posters like @voyuer and @Big Tex are intellectually impotent.

that is the reason why propaganda works and the agent provocateurs are so successful.

“#ADOS are bots” crowd has already been exposed as foot soldiers and pawns so what’s the next order you all are going to take?

Let me guess “vote for the democratic nominee no matter what”.

It is so predictable, you don’t need machine learning algorithms to call it.
 
LOL!! The OP is passive aggressive attention whoring.

Don't worry, I got a solution to all this "tribal" bickering. LOL!! This shit is funny as fuck. 500 years later and oceans apart and yall still on the same shit. The crying on both sides is why, I rarely get into these discussions. But Im willing to be civil if people are willing not to troll and be mature.

If any "reparations" are ever given to the ADOS tribe, I feel that there should be major stipulations that make any recipients of any funds invest at least 50% back in African countries that their ancestors were taken from.

Any "Africans" or 'Carribeans" contribution/penalty, to funding any such endeavor would be minimal. ADOS ins't seeking legal for losses incurred for being taken from Africa. I.E. we want money for our old mudhut villages and way of life back in Africa 500 years ago.

ADOS are seeking damages for the pain and suffering incurred during our indentured servitude in the United States. ADOS are just the same as any person who has been kidnapped and sex trafficed and is seeking to sue the people who enslaved that person for the torture incurred during their capture.

We can debate on the semantics on why people were captured in Africa 500 years ago. The slave traders and their decendants have the opportunity and option to make peace with what happened. I.E. Ghanas open policy to citizenship and land giveaways.

What is undeniable and well-documented is what took place in America after slaves arrived. I'm not gonna sit here and cry for you and piece by piece give you our sob story. What I will say is Africa as a whole suffered from what took place and a major part of any "settlement" should be included to help the areas that suffered the most population losses.

If any "Africans" are too prideful or too stupid to understand that this potentially could be a major economic boost to West Africa are just plain ignorant or stubborn. Projects like Eko Atlantic would finish in the matter of five years instead of lagging for decades like it currently is.

ADOS investors would cut much friendlier investment deals and would be more likely to recycle the money and invest any profits back in Africa than any Asian, Indian, or White person. Let us BUY land in Africa and we are more likely to farm and build on it than destroy and ectract it for resources like oil and minerals like the Chinese are currently doing.

This isnt about ADOS vs Pan Africa. This isnt ADOS vs Everybody. As I stated before, no one is after anything that you have. You are to broke to compensate us anyway. The average black person in the United States is worth way more than the average person from any Pan African nation.

Suing any African nation is like suing a homeless man when I could be suing a rich person or insurance company for liability. You aren't worth the time and energy and shouldnt be in the conversation when seeking compensation. The 50 richest families in Nigeria have 80% of the wealth. Yet they probably are worth half collectively as the Rothschild's who are worth 300 billon.

Dont get me stated about the Corporate, University, and Government wealth. ADOS reparations could be trillions. The only country who can afford to pay us is the place that fucked us over. Any other country on this earth would go bankrupt before any ADOS saw a measly 1-10k check.

I'm glad Africans and Caribbeans have pride and are willing to work hard for what they want in life. You guys shouldn't let ADOS, Whites, Asians, or Indians shit on you. But the hate anything ADOS thing has got to stop. Trust me, you NEED if you want Africa to prosper in the next 20 years.

ADOS have the most trained/talented black people on the planet when it comes to science, medicine, government, military, entertainment and education. I know Nigerians like to say they are everywhere on the planet but they haven't had acess to the same resources as ADOS in the US.

This inst to shit on Africa but HBCUs are better than most West African schools. Who better than Neil deGrasse Tyson who is the world most known/best scientists to rebuild your schools. You think any foreign powers respect your militaries? How you gonna protect all that newfound wealth. Do you trust the Chinese to protect you or would you be better off with a Colin Powell running your Army/Navy's and not trying to stage a coup every 5 years.

As far ass pop culture and influence, Tyler Perrys power move will overshadow anything Nollywood could do in the next 25 years. Any ADOS will tell you we get love damn near everywhere we go worldwide except the place we are born. Yet, Africans are looked down opon damn near everywhere they go.

Im not saying that right. But the perceptions of Africans vs ADOS is vastly different worldwide. As soon as people hear my American accent anywear people tend to drop the African/Nigeran scammer prejudice that they have for Africans.

American gang bangers and drug dealers dont make it out the US often were as Nigerians are worldwide drug traffickers and scam artist are web and domestically based in a lot of places. My point is that Africans need more Black Panthers and Coming to Americas to change the perceptions of Africans.

The movie Crazy Rich Asians made a lot of white folks jealous and got them to start thinking about all those dollar store shopping sprees funds aint just going to stanky sweat shop kids in China. Movies are big propaganda tools and CRA was a stunnting highlight real of Asians passively aggressively flexing their wealth.

Trust me, Asians had a blast shitting on white folks and had no second thoughts on "you tilly kneegas" feelings. Frutiy Tylers studio will play a big part in building the image of black people around the globe for the next 25-50 years. Im sure Tyler has no plans on making Africans look bad but please respect the fact that ADOS like Perry are still making major breakthroughs like this and it wont be an overnight process to solve any of our problems.

The plan needs to be to work together to secure the bag and how to invest to make a better Pan Africa. Im deeply against givng ADOS a one time payoff unless its in gold bars. I dont want forgiveness bought off only to be reinvested in racist/prejudiced white businesses. Hell, Im for Union soldiers/abolitionist decendants getting a check/relief to. This could also be the blueprint for places like the UK, Spain, and Portugal to pay up too. Tell that ol' bitch the UK Queen she cant pay in pussy but maybe her swirled daughter in law can.

But the majority of that investment needs to go to Black American neighborhoods and African settlements. I'm not willing to kill or die for any type of "reparations' but it were to be in serious discussion because enough ADOS felt it was worth seeking and white folks want to clear their conscience and move on then so be it. Lets be smart and stop all the trbial shit that got us here in the first place and build a better world for ourselves whether or whether or not anyone helps us out.
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:lol: now you want the descendants of the Union soldiers to get reparations too?

This thread is getting funnier by the post.
 
question:

what did the democrats do to close the racial wealth gap when the housing market crashed?

did they bailout their constituents that suffered most or the corporations that mismanaged the money to cause it?

Don't get me wrong, America owes black people big. Hell the queen owes black folks, the Dutch, I could go on.

This don't vote shit just ain't the wave.
 
Clinton was not a shitty candidate the water got muddy up from people like the ados movement ie Russian bots


Bullshit

White ppl didn't vote for Clinton they voted for trump

Every time ppl point to other shit they let white people off the hook


Black ppl saw those same bots and ads and didn't vote for trump


All the bots did was give them a voice to what they were already going to do
 

This aint for the ADHD dummy crowd. Im like white folks. I know how to hide knowledge in a book/long post so the dumb niggas cant find it. We bout to get on the Arc and leave you behind anyway.

Once it gets past 500 characters yall crack babys lose interest. Stant wanting to pop an addys in shit. I dont want you to go JuiceWrld Retard and die with a mouth full of em' ODing reading my shit. Stay dumb nigga.....LOL!!
 
That's not what he saying man

We turned out well and efforts are being made to reduce that, and at the worst possible time in history for us to do so.

He just saying we gotta do what we did or even better just as a matter of course.


We will. We always do. We don't fall for that shit and the polling proves it.

White votes are the problem

We are the only group that votes on the right side of history overwhelmingly.
 
The problem is we all don't live the same. Some of us aren't struggling to survive. Shit most of my friends and neighbors pull six figures. Own homes and property. Yeah black folks got it bad, but unless your plan eliminates racism (the actual cause of this) then what? Simply "cutting a check" doesn't fix that.

But it sure could fucking help lmao

How about empathy for people not in your neighborhood???????????????


Jesus
 
Right. You can give a trillion dollars and the problem will still exist. The problem isn't money IMO. Sure its a problem but you address the problem of racism and that will have a much more positive effect on us than just "cutting a check". Shit people been "cutting checks" for some time now. Where the fuck is that going?

Nobody has ever cut us a check
And the ppl they cut checks to are better off
But with us it wouldn't help lol

I don't care about the so called leadership of ados

I'm not riding with anything other than we deserve our due period.

The problem is money directly
The only way to get rid of racism is to get rid of white people

So no checks and no getting rid of white people so the argument is to keep things how they are then?
 
Don't get me wrong, America owes black people big. Hell the queen owes black folks, the Dutch, I could go on.

This don't vote shit just ain't the wave.

I agree with voting
We have no choice
But also have no voice

White ppl screw up this country and we have to save it

We need to get to a point where it's tangible

Beyond correcting mayhem
 
But it sure could fucking help lmao

How about empathy for people not in your neighborhood???????????????


Jesus

You completely missed my point. It wasnt about one group being better than another. The point is that it's hard sell saying we all live the same and want the same things. Being black isn't monolithic. Money doesn't rescue us from racism. We all still suffer under that and NO amount of money can fix that.
 
We don’t have time for this bullshit in 2020 we went through something similar to this in 2016 and look what we got in the White House. whoever is a part of that movement fuck you.

Sincerely

easy b

Wow.

When i first saw this thread i did not think it would have this much traction.

I have already made my feelings on this topic quite clear.

But now i see something more sinister

Look how we ALL just are CLAMORING for something ANYTHING to unite over.

Tribalism is always called bad when its BLACK FOLK UNITING

This thing has caused serious divisions where non existed and given white racists a easy pass lane.

We continue to allow the wrong individuals to be our voices.

If all these people in this thread alone said ok all we gonna do is NOT vote for trump and demand at least a solid PLAN for reparations for American descendants of enslaved people

With the promise of voting AGAINST Democrats during the mid terms if we do not see something viable in action.

Hopefully voting independently with a NEW party or candidate.

Just dreaming.
 
:lol: now you want the descendants of the Union soldiers to get reparations too?

This thread is getting funnier by the post.
I read it and he basically said to allocate 50% of reparations back to the same Africans that sold people into the slave trade.

:smh:

So whats your plan??Keep on arguing like bitches?? Keep ALL the money in America?? What's the point of that? When you say the people you do understand that not all Africans sold slave nor all whites were slave holders.

The place that suffered the most damage from this entire process is Africa and the place that benefied the most was America. There are ways to calculate the liabilities and losses of all parties in involved.

I dont want to see a sorry for slavery check get jacked off, only to end up in the hands of the rich upper class who pimp ADOS the most. It would be nice to see Popeyes be the biggest company on the planet and a black man buying Chick Fil A so the Mac in Cheese would be decent but they only way is to put some of that money into Africa.

Build ADOS cities or put the money into Ghana and Liberia if the Nigerians dont want a piece of the action. These same negrows talking ying yang will be the same ones talking Pan African investment if a check gets cut.

Money makes niggas attitudes change quickly, so if s check gets cut, I expect yall Africans and your scamming ass cousins to come up with ways to spend that money.

Somebody needs to open a Nigeran King of Diamonds in Ajbuja/Lagos with the fattest asses in Pan Africa. I want to throw ECO dollars and Ben Franklins at bitches at the same damn time. African, Carribban, and ADOS asses tweking in unison. Pan African cuisine in the kitchen serving the best the world has to offer.

But some of you rather not have that beautiful scene. Ya'll just wanna argue bout not getting that little ass check taxed like its gonna realky make a big difference.
Thanks for that .05% of my White Guilt Money, nigga like that really gonna make a difference or help me get that Chil Fil A franchise, I got my eye on.

I rather buy a few Cold Stones and Krispy Kremes in the motherland cus I heard ysll Nigerians like that shit. Better getting it from me than some smelly curry Indian who prays to some hindu elephant/cow that he can get rich quick an leave your shitty country.

I rather stick around and build the place up, not rape and pillage then leave you high and dry. Im sure the Chinese only want your business and not your women too since they have a 30% shortage of them. Ask the kidnapped Hindus how it is to be a China Bride and dont think they have the same plans for Africa.

Africa needs this. ADOS could use it. This could kickstart a lot for black people worldwide. Arguing with broke niggas about money you dont have is pointless.
Russian bots or not, my discussion when it comes to compensation will be with the parties that violated ADOS the most and not the people making the most noise on the internet.

I know hiw yall niggas are anyway. Once the money starts flowing it will be brother this, sister that, Pan Africa forvevah!! We don't need you to co-sign anyway. Just set up the vehicle so we can stash any new wealth. Make Africa easy for ADOS to invest in.
 
We will. We always do. We don't fall for that shit and the polling proves it.

White votes are the problem

We are the only group that votes on the right side of history overwhelmingly.
I don't disagree with that at all. "We always do" is under siege internally is all I'm saying. And I should have put internally in quotes, as I really think a lot of the conflict is being engineered, just like w white folks.

White racism was 2000% the problem last election. There are other problems that rab parallel to that though, voter suppression, disinformation, etc. I still think hella people stayed home because no one believed the nigga would win.
 
I agree with voting
We have no choice
But also have no voice

White ppl screw up this country and we have to save it

We need to get to a point where it's tangible

Beyond correcting mayhem
Agree 100% again

My stance the entire time has been go with the best strategy, one that moves the chains for us. I only oppose shit that doesn't represent that.

I agree that we don't get enough, how could one not? But I also think that it's clear that what little we HAVE gotten has come through legislation, and our persistent participation in the process. The second I hear a better strategy, I'm on board. The split fucking second.

But man it's like niggas think we can opt out of the way entire rest of the world has worked for most of history. That's not how shit works. Participating in the political process, I mean.
 
Nobody has ever cut us a check
And the ppl they cut checks to are better off
But with us it wouldn't help lol

I don't care about the so called leadership of ados

I'm not riding with anything other than we deserve our due period.

The problem is money directly
The only way to get rid of racism is to get rid of white people

So no checks and no getting rid of white people so the argument is to keep things how they are then?
Yeah its been checks handed out and they have been handed out to the misguided. They literally fund hoods. As shitty as the living condiditons are they put money into that bullshit. They give money to our trash ass public schools based on how many they can get to show up in attendance. Man I can go on to the bullshit. The money is there. I don't want to hear shit about there not being money. Its there and its being handed out to the wrong places/people.
 
Don't get me wrong, America owes black people big. Hell the queen owes black folks, the Dutch, I could go on.

This don't vote shit just ain't the wave.
I agree. But what I'm saying is that they just cut us a check and that's it. Whatever they cut it for that means that was the price for generations of abuse our people have suffered. Ain't no price on that. So shit if a check is being caught that shit should last until the end of time. We should't accept no one big check. Fuck that shit I ain't with it.
 
You completely missed my point. It wasnt about one group being better than another. The point is that it's hard sell saying we all live the same and want the same things. Being black isn't monolithic. Money doesn't rescue us from racism. We all still suffer under that and NO amount of money can fix that.


Nah
Cause just because it won't make much difference to you or definitely can to others.

No amount of money can fix it but they can start

Nothing can fix racism other than the eradication of racist people.

And we know who they are whom are also not a monolith but enough of them practice it to keep things easy

You didn't even see the parallel and please know we're just chatting towards a great solution for all of us here
 
I don't disagree with that at all. "We always do" is under siege internally is all I'm saying. And I should have put internally in quotes, as I really think a lot of the conflict is being engineered, just like w white folks.

White racism was 2000% the problem last election. There are other problems that rab parallel to that though, voter suppression, disinformation, etc. I still think hella people stayed home because no one believed the nigga would win.


But the people who stayed home weren't us.
Also the places he won in weren't places where black people are a powerful voice
Every election always comes down to battle states where they're undecided on racism
Ohio
Florida
lol
And guess who swings the elections every time?
All the things with gerrymandering and all that is 100000% real and only targeted at us because of how we vote.

my stance is we need something for these votes other than an "I told you so"
or
"You're welcome for not sending us all into hell----- so it'll just be us in the hell we're used to"
 
Agree 100% again

My stance the entire time has been go with the best strategy, one that moves the chains for us. I only oppose shit that doesn't represent that.

I agree that we don't get enough, how could one not? But I also think that it's clear that what little we HAVE gotten has come through legislation, and our persistent participation in the process. The second I hear a better strategy, I'm on board. The split fucking second.

But man it's like niggas think we can opt out of the way entire rest of the world has worked for most of history. That's not how shit works. Participating in the political process, I mean.


I understand your positions and I understand the frustration of not getting shit for your participation.
We are anti-participation trophy in everything but voting
and in voting we get participation trophies while others get tangibles.
The loudest dudes don't represent everything in any movement and I'm not even pro ados tenants as a whole
But i def feel like we need something and I feel like the time is now for me as an adult to try and do something about it.
I don't want to be old and be like well it's on yall like I was out here doing something and I wasn't like so many of the people that are old now are doing who we watched just chill and shit in the 90's lol
 
Yeah its been checks handed out and they have been handed out to the misguided. They literally fund hoods. As shitty as the living condiditons are they put money into that bullshit. They give money to our trash ass public schools based on how many they can get to show up in attendance. Man I can go on to the bullshit. The money is there. I don't want to hear shit about there not being money. Its there and its being handed out to the wrong places/people.

That's not checks handed out.
What you described is bare minimum responsibilities to a functioning government.
That's not checks being handed out on TOP OF the bare minimum to call yourself a functioning government.

For instance.

Flint still has dirty motherfucking water it's been YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So where is the money from the fucking government that is sworn to protect it's people and provide quality of life to its residents under its care?
How can anyone win any election in the state of Michigan in Flint or and especially stateside without running on the platform of we will fix Flint's water because we don't want that to happen to any of you?


Why would anyone in Flint vote for anything at fucking all?
To keep not being able to drink the fucking water while the people they elect don't give a fuck that the kids are being poisoned, have been poisoned and will continue to be with NO FANFARE FROM ANY GOVERNMENT ENTITY??????????


Why the fuck isn't the U.N. IN FLINT?
 
I agree. But what I'm saying is that they just cut us a check and that's it. Whatever they cut it for that means that was the price for generations of abuse our people have suffered. Ain't no price on that. So shit if a check is being caught that shit should last until the end of time. We should't accept no one big check. Fuck that shit I ain't with it.

I personally don't even want a check I laid out what I wanted and people still said NAH to that lol


We don't need cash directly.

We just need access.

Don't give me 20k which is what the maximum would probably be per person.

Education on all levels should be FREE - then watch how many people that don't identify as black will suddenly become african american

Health care should be FREE- then watch how many people identify and african american

Business Loans should no longer be loans but GRANTS- same theme as above.

Insurance for life and house and car should be FREE, full coverage.

We should be exempt from paying state and government taxes- not 1 cent period.

that's just a start.
 
I don't think that the dem party is without faults but since I care about health care, climate change, consumer protections, food safety, a social safety net, etc, what is the alternative? I'm not rich, I'm going to need social security.

The GOP believes WE should pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, but corporate welfare is just fine. Mike Huckabee wrote a diet book years ago, there was a section in the back about what the GOP believes. All of it made sense. All of it is something I could get behind, but what they say they believe is not how they govern. When is the last time a Republican mentioned the deficit? Dems get in power and will have to fix this mess. The propaganda machine has repeated over and over again that the GOP is the party of of fiscal responsibility and national security and people have accepted these lies as fact. Hillary was the devil because of her server but Trump is conducting government business via cell phone and whatsapp and not a peep.

Like wise the propaganda that black folks are lazy, stupid, criminals, etc has been accepted as fact. Everyone has a "black friend" who is the exception to the rule, but somehow these stereotypes are first thing that come to mind and no one ever thinks the rule might be wrong. These folks keep sprouting RW talking points about black folks being reliant on welfare, how many folks around here are on public assistance? If I ever need it I'd like it to be an option, but that doesn't affect my daily life. Of the people who do get public assistance, many work but aren't making a living wage. Wal-Mart should be paying all their workers at least 15 per hour.

It's easy to say people should have advanced beyond a Wal-Mart job, but that's not reality. We want to talk about kids not getting guidance and running wild, but how many parents are working multiple jobs?

There isn't just one master problem or solution. Even in the black community we have different areas with different concerns.

Dems may not be the total solution, but I think they are the best option. The GOP is on the opposite side of most values I have and issues I care about.
It's all so complicated. ADOS is concerned with getting specific tangibles for the black vote. Who could disagree with that? At the same time, no doubt that the black community does see trickle down benefits off SOME democrat policies. The stuff you listed like health care, climate change, consumer protection, etc is meant to protect white America first. Black Americans happen to benefit.

I think ADOS should frame the argument differently. The official should be under constant pressure to act. From the start. We all know how fast shit can get done and how rhetoric works. If tangibles aren't provided, the elected official is not getting reelected or a push to oust them at first chance. Instead of voting and just letting these crooks chill, constant pressure should be applied. As a community, we have never really applied pressure in my lifetime.

There are ways for everyone to come together without all the name calling. It's just there is a lot of frustration and a major disagreement on how to get shit done. As individuals, we're all doing fine. As a community, not so much. It's clear something has to change, but how to get that change is causing a huge rift.
 
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