A collection of #ADOS Tweets from @KingTahara that no one cares about

And why are you MIA when the legalistic discussions concerning reparations and the racial wealth gap are brought up?



These are my posts in this same thread from 2019

Dude......

I’ve said repeatedly Obama was not perfect...

I can point to several serious issues with his administration..... Mainly local spying ...

I can be neutral ... this website though is pro-republican..

The issues with Flints water somehow been linked to Obama since it became a news story becauase for some reason... people think it’s a federal concern. When it’s the state... but people always bring it up to say “hey look how the democrats didn’t do anything for Flint”

The website goes out of it way to not point out a single instance of the republicans contributing to the issue...

It doesn’t nightlight a neutral stance... even though the one of the reasons we are where we are is because the republicans have been in control for decades... yet somehow and for some reason... now is the time to talk about this... now is the time bring up this website... not even a month after the democrats took control of the house.

Are you telling me that theses two people, who have been supposedly talking about this movement for awhile... have waited all this time to finally reveal their master Wordpress website... why not reveal this last year... prior to the midterms..

Cause then it would have hung focus on the republicans who had complete control of the house, senate, and Supreme Court and the most they did for blacks is pay 20 million more to HBCU then Obama did. They did nothing else... yet somehow now is the time create a division amongst black people...



I’d had no issue if they left it at redistribution of wealth and reparations.... but you can not ignore the bare fact that the first thing on the Agenda is to change the census to separate ADOS to black immigrants and then to have affirmative action programs to only ADOS..

How the hell would that even work? Also it’s fucked up....
Fam again,..

How are you going to prove lineage?

Are you asking everyone that looks black “did you come from a ship?”

Then how do you even define ADOs... you have your interpretation, but how would the government interpret it. The logical way would be to say those whose family could be traced to slavery without any impunity... but then what if one side of the family never was free and the other never was a slave.

What if you family immigrated here right after slavery and then mixed...with out blacks..

So you are going to have to ask people to pull out family trees to the US government.... in order to seek reparations??

I don’t understand how there are members that don’t see the problems with this?

Why not just talk about redistribution of wealth or highlight the need for African American programs?

Why specifically go to the level of separation amongst blacks? Cause that’s kind of what they are saying...
Jesus I quit....

The reparations agreement was paying reparations for France to Jews based upon the shit that happened in 1946 .... it was approved by the state department because it involved foreign affairs... which is what they mainly handle. Holocaust survivors have been pushing for French Reparations since 2000.... because French was held responsible so you know what they did.. they began sueing people.... the only reason why they even got reparations payments starting 2015 is that they sued SnCF. So it’s not like the state department said “oh look we have to pay back the Jews for what they went through” .... the Jews had an organized and agreesive campaign for this...

We... as a people... we just talk about...

Personally I still think that we have a legit argument on the 40 acres and a mule promise but no one has aggressively pushed for it in the modern era.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...7bbd53d2b5d_story.html?utm_term=.7884338150d5

Also the republicans were in charge of the house when this happened and I think the senate when this happened.... but I can see why Obama is blamed.


And again... I point out...

In the last 40 years...... how many democratic presidents have we had and in those years... how many times was the Congress democratic.

But more importantly... How many democratic governors have we had in the last 40 years especially in the southern regions.. how many times have we have democratic controllled state houses and senates..

While I will continue to say that the Democratic Party has had problems..... it it hard to achieve progress when in the state and local level they are rarely in control...


As for reparations...

Has anyone even happened to ask how that would even work out? As much as I would like them... how would you repay this debt? Who would be included? Who would be excluded? Do we include all African Americans? But exclude African Americans with mixed backgrounds? Do we include native Americans? Do they get more because they were here first? To be on the real .... even if you exclude black immigrants...

You will have African Americans divided over the fact that they believe they should get paid more then then the next African Americans because that guy is mixed or half his family is from Nigeria ... or his grandmother is really from Canada so that doesn’t count.. he needs less.

If they do offer reparations... I just don’t see it coming in the form that most blacks people want it to be. Unless Kats start suing the shit out of local states that promoted and endorsed slavery... hit particular families who had slaves... basically create a new type of suit. The first cases would likely lose... but I think there might be a court of equity argument even with the statute of limitations issues.


Anyway.... I think I’m good in this thread. I’m Not going to get sucked in like I did in the flat earth thread.

I’ll be back in 2020....
My issue is that I've got no clue how you would Define.. an American Descendant of Slavery.

So is this the reason why we are even having this discussion...

Who is black in America? Ethnic tensions flare between black Americans and black immigrants.

As soon as it was announced that filming would start for a Harriet Tubman biopic with British Nigerian actress Cynthia Erivo as the lead, a social media fury erupted.

An online appeal went up demanding that an African American woman be cast as Tubman, who, after escaping slavery, made more than a dozen trips to lead others to freedom on the Underground Railroad.


In the Change.org petition, which garnered 1,123 signatures by Oct. 17, organizer Tyler Holmes wrote: "We will boycott the film Harriet until you hire an actual black American actress to play the part."


Part of the anger directed at Erivo was that social media users unearthed an old tweet where Erivo had mocked a "ghetto American accent." Critics said she denigrated African Americans on one hand, but sought to portray an iconic African American hero on the other.

This came after a tangle in August when Nigerian-born blogger and author Luvvie Ajayi wrote that Tevin Campbell was too obscure a choice to sing at Aretha Franklin's funeral. "Under what rock did they pull that name from?" Ajayi quipped. The Twitter response was livid.

Such arguments, dubbed by some "the diaspora war," reveal more than preferences over movie roles and pop culture. The rancor provides a peek into a debate about identity in America, raising questions about how a changing black population — increasingly diversewith immigrants and refugees from Africa, the Caribbean, Britain, and elsewhere — sees itself and is seen by the majority.

Who is black in America? Can there be unity based on skin color alone? Who gets to speak for African Americans?

Although there is more nuance to the arguments, the sides often go like this: Black immigrants are respected more than black Americans, all the while benefiting from reparations meant to right evils of America's past. That's led to some black Americans redefining themselves as "American Descendants of Slavery" to spotlight their claim on America's promises. Meanwhile, immigrants discover they're newly identified as "black" in a white nation — an unnecessary distinction in Nigeria, Ghana, or Jamaica — and say that when pulled over by cops, no one cares whether they have a charming accent.

These identity issues are showing up at universities, during marches, and at theaters, and raise questions of whether these diverging groups can, or want to, build coalitions for political change.

We talked to a number of experts — immigrants and Americans — to help explain the origins of the tension and how the issue is playing out.

One source of contention is who benefits from “diversity” efforts.
For decades, researchers have studied how universities are increasing the numbers of black students at majority-white colleges. But some of the current tensions between immigrants and African Americans can be traced to a theory that the nation's most selective universities have shifted away from racial-justice remedies — things like affirmative action that were put in place to right the wrongs of slavery and Jim Crow segregation — by using diversity as a goal instead.

A study published in the American Journal of Education in 2007 found that immigrants or children of immigrants, while making up 13 percent of the nation's black 18- and 19-year-olds — accounted for 41 percent of blacks admitted to Ivy League schools.


"If it's about getting black faces at Harvard, then you're doing fine," Mary C. Waters, the former chair of Harvard's sociology department, told the New York Times about a need for a philosophical discussion on affirmative action. "If it's about making up for 200 to 500 years of slavery in this country and its aftermath, then you're not doing well."

Compounding the tension is a fivefold increase in the black immigrant population in recent decades. There were 4.2 million black immigrants living in the United States in 2016, up from 816,000 in 1980, according to a Pew Research Center report. As more black immigrants experience success, they get what Fordham University professor Christina M. Greer calls "elevated minority status."

"Foreign-born blacks are often perceived by whites and even black Americans as different and 'special' — as harder-working and more productive citizens than their black American counterparts," Greer wrote in her book Black Ethnics: Race, Immigration, and the Pursuit of the American Dream.

It's a phenomenon that academics started noticing decades ago — that immigrants generally are "strivers" who work hard to better their lives.

It's not quite an apples-to-apples comparison, though.

Onoso Imoagene, a University of Pennsylvania sociologist born in Nigeria, who studies African immigrants and how they adapt to discrimination in America, said that although more than half of Nigerians in America are college-educated, just 7 percent of Nigerians living abroad have at least a bachelor's degree. So those who end up in the United States are the most educated — "a hyper-selected group," she said.

Immigrants don’t carry the same racial trauma as Americans, experts say.
Even before immigrants come here, said Amy Yeboah, an assistant professor of African American studies at Howard University and the American-born daughter of Ghanian parents, they have an advantage American blacks often don't.

"If you are educated in Ghana, your level of education will be different from what you get in the Bronx," said Yeboah, who grew up in New York and earned her undergraduate and doctoral degrees from Temple University. "Students who apply from Ghana compared to those who are born here will do better, because they are prepared better."


Harvard professor Lani Guinier told the Washington Post that immigrants have an added benefit.

"In part, it has to do with coming from a country … where blacks were in the majority and did not experience the stigma that black children did in the United States," she said.

Immigrants are not oblivious to discrimination in their home countries, said Imoagene. It's just that those experiences haven't involved skin color.

"We have our own axes of stratification, when you think of ethnic lines [in Nigeria] — whether you are Yoruba or Igbo, or Christian or Muslim," she said. "Then you come here and find out you're [also] black, and have to learn the racial meanings attached to that status."

What’s resulted is a movement to declare who is entitled to what.
Some black Americans want to redefine themselves as an "American Descendant of Slavery," or ADOS, rather than African American.

Antonio Moore, a lawyer in California, and Yvette Carnell, a former journalist and congressional aide, appear to be leading the charge. The two make regular YouTube videos arguing that people whose ancestors were enslaved have a "justice claim" that black immigrants don't.

"We have been doing 'people of color' politics, but if you want to talk about what people who have been identified as African Americans need and what we are owed, then we have to change that definition." Carnell said.

On her videos, she has often criticized former President Barack Obama for saying this is a nation of immigrants. "We were not immigrants. We were property, we were chattel slaves. That's a difference."

Neither Americans nor immigrants are a monolith.
Michelle Saahene's voice was heard around the world when she spoke in April at the Center City Starbucks where a manager called the police on two black American men because they asked to use the bathroom without placing an order.

"They didn't do anything," Saahene, of Philadelphia, said in the viral video of the incident.

Raised in Central Pennsylvania, Saahene, now 32, said it was difficult for her to negotiate her racial identity as the daughter of immigrants growing up in Palmyra, a predominantly white town near Lebanon. Her teachers treated her well because she excelled in school. But at Pennsylvania State University and other places, she felt she got the cold shoulder from African American students.


Earlier this year, Rosita Johnson, a retired Philadelphia teacher, was honored by the South African government for her efforts starting in the '80s to support a school for children who fled to Tanzania after the Soweto protests of white rule.


At her Germantown home, the 86-year-old talked about the tensions between some Americans and Africans. A fractured black population, she said, only helps those in power.

"It's a divide-and-conquer tactic," said Johnson, "because African Americans are Africans. These are our cousins. If you're African American, you're related to somebody over there. Unfortunately, because of slavery and colonization, all people of African descent have suffered from racism. I call it a mental illness."


Since those times, she has traveled back to Ghana. At Elmina Castle, where captured Africans were held before being taken on ships destined for the Americas, she wept.

"I … imagined what it was like to experience the torture, the rape and murder, and I looked out on the ocean and imagined being on a boat, sailing away, and I got sick to my stomach. When I got back to America, it was impossible for me to look at all African Americans and not see them as my possible brothers and sisters, neighbors and family and friends in Africa.

"To me, this feud between Africans and African Americans, it's terrible and it needs to stop."

https://www.philly.com/philly/news/...-american-descendants-of-slaves-20181018.html


So we have a social media campaign against an African woman playing Harriet Tubman.. When Harriet's grandmother was African and her mother was likely half white... But :hmm: whatever..

Man sweet jesus... Social Media is fucking killing us.
I'm just trying to figure out..... How you define.... an American Descendant of Slavery. Like I watched the video........ and I get what she was trying to say about the movement.

The focus is on Blacks that were taken from Africa and put into Slavery.

But how the hell do you even define that........... It's not like they kept the best records back then. Also does it matter if your bloodline/lineage was mixed at some time. Take me for example... My maternal great grand mother on my mothers side was Native american. Her husband was a freed slave. My grandfather's father somehow has some Asian in his lineage. I don't even know what's on my father's side... I don't know dude, but I take it that has to be some European cause my last name is Romanic. So I'm a descendant of slavery, but I've got other shit in me. So should I receive the same amount of services as African Americans who can trace their lineage on both sides back to Slavery.

Personally I'd have ZERO problem with the country doing the right thing and Paying the debt specifically to those that were freed as Slaves.. Like say for example.... I don't get the reparations to me per se, but I would receive it as a family member of my Grandmother's Father. The Debt is owed to him.

That would be the easiest way to do this...

So of course it's the way that no one is talking about... We are sitting up here trying to claim reparations for the blood and sacrifice that our forefathers endured.......... but we wouldn't want to give anything to them directly.

Also.... What about the African Americans that lived through Segregation or is this just for those who can trace their lineage to slaves.


Ok now for real.. I'm out... I've got to work.


I dipped out of this thread cause it wasn't going anywhere.
 
The irony in you seizing upon a year-old talking point from Tariq Nasheed that Antonio Moore has addressed on a number of occasions.



I didn't know anything about dude..

I only decided to read up because of KT's shit in the Kamala thread..

So this is what I found and that he went by Jerry..

So I just want to look up his cases as a DA...

Cause he was definitely locking up Brothers..



I don't follow dudes twitter to see what he was talking about earlier this year...
 
These are my posts in this same thread from 2019

I dipped out of this thread cause it wasn't going anywhere.

No, you dipped out because all of the questions you asked HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, and you can easily research the answers yourself. You seem to have no problem researching something as it pertains to a person or party you feel the need to defend, but when it comes to ADOS, you like to play dumb and act as if the information isn’t out there.

Hell, this book would answer 90% of your questions:
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I didn't know anything about dude..

I only decided to read up because of KT's shit in the Kamala thread..

So this is what I found and that he went by Jerry..

So I just want to look up his cases as a DA...

Cause he was definitely locking up Brothers..



I don't follow dudes twitter to see what he was talking about earlier this year...

“I didn’t know anything about dude....”
“I don’t follow dudes twitter to see what he was talking about”


Proves my point. You talk around and about ADOS but seemingly can never go to the SOURCES of most of our information. You’d rather “man-google” Antonio Moore than actually see if he has previously talked about being a DA.

Why not research how many Black people Kamala Harris as a prosecutor and Joe Biden’s legislative policies have locked up?

I know you won’t answer that question! :smh:
 
“I didn’t know anything about dude....”
“I don’t follow dudes twitter to see what he was talking about”


Proves my point. You talk around and about ADOS but seemingly can never go to the SOURCES of most of our information. You’d rather “man-google” Antonio Moore than actually see if he has previously talked about being a DA.

Why not research how many Black people Kamala Harris as a prosecutor and Joe Biden’s legislative policies have locked up?

I know you won’t answer that question! :smh:

Fonz is a time waster, all he does is deflect and character attack. He can't defend any of these people straight up with facts. And hes bigoted towards Black Americans.
 
“I didn’t know anything about dude....”
“I don’t follow dudes twitter to see what he was talking about”


Proves my point. You talk around and about ADOS but seemingly can never go to the SOURCES of most of our information. You’d rather “man-google” Antonio Moore than actually see if he has previously talked about being a DA.

Why not research how many Black people Kamala Harris as a prosecutor and Joe Biden’s legislative policies have locked up?

I know you won’t answer that question! :smh:

??? man-google?? ---

I don't think I've talked about Ados in like a year.

I just wanted read more about it.... and I point out that he was a DA. I didn't know that... So that means he locked up people.

And

You know what...

I've got time..

Sure I'll look up Kamala's record as a DA. I know what it is.. but sure I'll look it up again.. Hell I'll look up Joe Biden's legislative polices...

I know you are talking about the Crime bill

Hell I'll look up all the other people who signed off on this bill ..... including those from the Black Caucus ....

Maybe point out the people who at that time... Also supported the Bill..

Hell let's look at the Houses version of the Crime Bill..

Cause..

Duh ... Both Chambers would need to draft similar bills.

Let's See who in the House.. Signed off on this.. "JOE BIDEN Crime Bill" .....



I don't get in my feelings in shit.

I can look at both sides and see wrong and I'll talk about that shit... If Dems fucked up.. I'll point it out. If Repubs fuck up I'll point it out.

I do this shit on the job everyday... This helps to keep the old mind fresh.

Hell if I'm wrong in something.. I'll be the first to eat that Crow and admit it.... It's a learning lesson.
 
Kamala Harris’ prosecutor past threatens 2020 White House bid


January 30, 2019


When Sen. Kamala Harris seized the mantle of criminal justice reform in launching her 2020 Democratic presidential run, it bowled over Phelicia Jones, a prominent civil rights advocate in San Francisco.

When it comes to criminal justice, the freshman senator was more a part of the problem than the solution, Ms. Jones said, first during Ms. Harris’ stint as San Francisco’s district attorney, then during her 2011-2017 term as California attorney general.

“San Francisco has always incarcerated more black men than anywhere else [in the state] and it didn’t really change under her leadership. Now she wants to do criminal justice reform?” she said. “She never did say anything about the police brutality of African Americans and just the outright harassment and racial profiling of black and brown people here in San Francisco. Now those are huge issues.”

Ms. Harris’ tough-on-crime record, which is rife with cases in which she aggressively defended misconduct by her teams of prosecutors to get convictions, could be one of the biggest hurdles in her quest to lead a Democrat Party that has moved far to the left on racial and criminal justice issues.

The 54-year-old daughter of a Tamil Indian mother and Jamaican father, Ms. Harris has never made race or ethnicity a focus in her political campaigns, but being a black woman has already boosted her presidential bid.

She is an early favorite in a field that so far includes former San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, Sen. Kristen Gillibrand of New York, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, though scores more are eyeing the race and no one has been seriously tested yet.

Ms. Harris staked her claim to a justice reform agenda in formally announcing her candidacy Sunday in front of City Hall in her hometown of Oakland, California.

“Let’s speak the truth that too many unarmed black men and women are killed in America. Too many black and brown Americans are locked up. From mass incarceration to cash bail to policing, our criminal justice system needs drastic repair. Let’s speak that truth,” she declared.

Longtime advocates for justice reform see another truth: Ms. Harris repeatedly opposed or kept mum on some of the most pressing liberal priorities for race and policing.

As San Fransisco district attorney, a post she held from 2004 to 2011, Ms. Harris championed a state law for prosecuting parents of habitually truant children, including stiff fines and possible jail time for the parents, who often are poor and minorities.

As California attorney general, she appealed a federal judge’s ruling in 2014 that the death penalty was unconstitutional, fought legislation in 2015 that would require her office to investigate officer-involved shootings, and opposed statewide use of body cameras for police officers.

Democratic Party leaders have looked the other way. When she ran for the Senate in 2016, she was endorsed by former President Barack Obama, Mrs. Warren and just about every other prominent Democrat.

Just over two years later, her bid for the White House is earning cheers from liberal groups.

“Black women have long been the backbone of the Democratic Party, and having a progressive trailblazer like Sen. Harris in this race will play a crucial role in ensuring our voices are heard loud and clear in this primary,” said Yvette Simpson, chief executive officer of Democracy for America.

Pressed about Ms. Harris’ prosecutorial record, DFA spokesman Neil Sroka said the primary process would sort it out.

“The question for Democratic primary voters shouldn’t be whether or not a candidate is perfect, but whether they’ve recognized their flaws, taken responsibility for their missteps, and seized the opportunity the primary presents to demonstrate their earnest commitment to running and governing closer to our progressive ideals,” he said.

Democrat strategist Brand Bannon said that even if Ms. Harris’ law-and-order past is a problem with some progressives, it would be a plus in the general election matchup against what he called “an ethics-plagued” President Trump.

“Besides, she has a progressive voting record in the Senate. She supports health care for all and the Green New Deal. She has many advantages in the nomination fight,” he said. “She is a top-tier Democratic candidate.”

Ms. Jones said she wants Ms. Harris to explain what’s on her criminal justice agenda. She invited the candidate to address the black and low-income residents in San Francisco’s Bayview community, where she lives.

She added that Ms. Harris didn’t visit the neighborhood during her 2016 Senate campaign.

“I’m an activist for black and brown communities and I just feel that when constituents call upon politicians, politicians should have the decency and the courtesy to go to constituents and stop ignoring us, especially in the black community where most politicians want our vote but they do not want to come into our community,” Ms. Jones said.

Lara Bazelon, a law professor and director of University of San Francisco’s Racial Justice Clinic, said in a recent New York Times op-ed that most troubling in Ms. Harris’ record is her repeated efforts to uphold wrongful convictions won through official misconduct.

Ms. Harris has been involved in a long list of cases tainted by evidence tampering, false testimony and the suppression of crucial information by prosecutors:

⦁ In 2010, she was found to have intentionally withheld information about wrongdoing by a police drug lab technician accused of sabotaging tests and stealing drugs. A judge scolded her for indifference to systemic violation of defendants’ constitutional rights.

⦁ She successfully fought an attempt to overturn the conviction of George Gage for sexually abusing his stepdaughter, despite revelations that the prosecutor unlawfully held back potentially exculpatory evidence, such as medical reports that showed the stepdaughter repeatedly lied to police and was described by her mother as “a pathological liar.”

⦁ She fought to keep Daniel Larsen in prison on a 28-year-to-life sentence for possession of a concealed weapon even though his defense lawyer was incompetent and there was compelling evidence of his innocence.

⦁ Ms. Harris defended Johnny Baca’s conviction for murder despite judges determining that the prosecutor presented false testimony at trial. She relented only after a video of the oral argument garnered embarrassing national attention.

⦁ She moved to stop death row inmate Kevin Copper, whose trial was marred by racism and misconduct, from getting a DNA test to prove his innocence. She did not reverse course until a newspaper drew national attention to the case.

At a CNN town hall event Monday, Ms. Harris batted away a question about her hard-charging prosecutions, saying she fought on behalf of victims and put rapists, child molesters and murders behind bars.

Mrs. Harris claimed to be a lifelong opponent of the death penalty.

“I have also worked my entire career to reform the criminal justice system, understanding, to your point, that it is deeply flawed and in need of repair,” she said.

Her accomplishments on that front, she said, included implementing implicit bias and procedural justice training for police officers; creating an “Open Justice” data system to make public deaths in custody statistics and arrest rates by race; and creating one of the first re-entry programs to provide inmates with jobs, training and counseling.

The senator deserves credit for her accomplishments, including correcting the backlog in rape test kits in California, said Ms. Bazelon.

“But if Kamala Harris wants people who care about dismantling mass incarceration and correcting miscarriages of justice to vote for her, she needs to radically break with her past,” she wrote in the op-ed. “A good first step would be to apologize to the wrongfully convicted people she has fought to keep in prison and to do what she can to make sure they get justice. She should start with George Gage.”

 
Oakland-born Democrat Kamala Devi Harris was elected Attorney General in the November 2010 statewide election.

Harris’ mother, Dr. Shayamala Gopalan of Chennai (the former Madras), India, came to UC Berkeley in California as a graduate student in endocrinology; today she is a breast cancer specialist. Her father, Donald Harris, is a professor emeritus of economics at Stanford University. Her parents met while taking part in the civil rights movement. She has one sister, Maya, also an attorney and vice president of the Ford Foundation’s Democracy, Rights, and Justice Program.

Harris attended public schools in California, and graduated with a BA in 1986 from Howard University in Washington DC, the oldest black university in the U.S. (Harris’ father is Jamaican). She earned her law degree at the University of California, Hastings College of the Law in 1989. In 1990 she went to work for the Alameda County District Attorney’s Office.

While her specialty was prosecuting child sexual assault cases, she also built cases against those accused of murder and robbery. Harris prosecuted hundreds of serious and violent felons.

Harris joined the San Francisco District Attorney’s Office in 1998 as the managing attorney of the Career Criminal Unit, where she prosecuted three-strikes cases and serial felons, and later became chief of the Community and Neighborhood Division. She then served as head of the City Attorney’s Division on Families and Children for the city of San Francisco.

In 2003, Harris was elected the first female district attorney in San Francisco and was re-elected in 2007. As in her present office as the state’s attorney general, she was not only the first woman but also the first African American woman and South Asian American woman in California to hold both those positions.

As San Francisco’s DA, Harris increased conviction rates for serious and violent offenders, created new prosecution divisions, and formed a gun specialist team. Her office more than doubled its conviction rate for gun felonies and won prison sentences for 50% more violent offenders. Harris also set up free legal clinics and outreach programs in immigrant neighborhoods.

Harris was vice president of the National District Attorney’s Association and sat on the board of directors of the California District Attorneys Association. She also wrote Smart on Crime: A Career Prosecutor’s Plan to Make Us Safer in 2009.

Harris is a vocal opponent of the death penalty, although she has pledged to pursue it in cases where legally appropriate. She is a strong advocate of environmental law enforcement and created the Environmental Justice Unit when she was San Francisco district attorney. She called for a crackdown on predatory lending when she campaigned for attorney general.

Harris was a key player in the $26 billion mortgage settlement reached between attorneys general from a number of states and banks in February 2012, a deal she walked away from months earlier when she thought it wasn’t tough enough and California wasn’t getting its fair share. The state’s share of what could eventually be a $45 billion pot grew in the final deal from its initial $4 billion to $18 billion and the banks were no longer immunized against future legal liability.

 
A Lack of Conviction

As D.A. Kamala Harris campaigns to be attorney general, her success rate in felony trials has dropped below that of any big-city prosecutor in...

Peter Jamison • 05/05/2010 4:00 am

On a mild Southern California afternoon last month, San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris stood on the steps of Los Angeles City Hall and quietly beamed while the mayor of California's largest city announced his endorsement of her candidacy for attorney general. Speaking at a lectern adorned with a blue campaign poster, Antonio Villaraigosa praised what he said were Harris' many qualifications to be the state's top law-enforcement official.

First on the list: a substantial upswing in San Francisco's felony conviction rate since she took office in 2004. “Kamala has spent her entire professional life in the trenches as a courtroom prosecutor,” he said. “And she has raised conviction rates in her community to the highest in 15 years.”

It was one in a string of high-profile endorsements of the Harris campaign. A week later, U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced her support. Despite a storm of negative publicity over problems at the narcotics division of San Francisco's crime lab — where technician Deborah Madden has been accused of skimming cocaine samples, forcing prosecutors to drop hundreds of drug cases — polls indicate that Harris currently enjoys double-digit leads over her most competitive Democratic opponents in the June primary.

Villaraigosa's prominent mention of Harris' prosecutorial vigor was no accident. As a San Francisco politician seeking to enhance her statewide appeal, Harris has made her 71 percent success rate in obtaining felony convictions — a marked increase over the 52 percent rate that her predecessor, famously left-wing Terence Hallinan, logged during his final year in office — a key selling point.

But there's a problem with Harris' central campaign claim. Records obtained by SF Weekly reveal that the performance of prosecutors in the San Francisco District Attorney's office is less impressive than suggested by her much-trumpeted conviction statistics.


The records show that while Harris' overall conviction rate has reached new highs over the past several years, that success is based almost entirely on plea deals negotiated before defendants accused of serious crimes proceed to trial. (Such pleas form the bulk of any D.A.'s convictions.) By contrast, felony convictions for cases that actually go to trial and reach a jury verdict — a comparatively small group that nevertheless includes some of a district attorney's most violent and emotionally charged cases — have declined significantly over the past two years.

In 2009, San Francisco prosecutors won a lower percentage of their felony jury trials than their counterparts at district attorneys' offices covering the 10 largest cities in California, according to data on case outcomes compiled by officials at the San Francisco Superior Court as well as by other county courts and prosecutors. (Officials in Sacramento, the state's seventh-largest city, did not provide data.) Harris' at-trial felony conviction rate that year was 76 percent, down 12 points from the previous year.

In the first quarter of 2010, things got worse. During that time, Harris' office secured guilty verdicts in just 53 percent of its felony trials — a remarkable figure, revealing that defendants accused of serious crimes who took their case to trial had an even one-in-two shot at winning an acquittal. By contrast, the most recent recorded statewide average was 83 percent, according to statistics from the California Judicial Council.

The general decline in felony trial convictions has included more failures in murder cases specifically, according to records released by the D.A.'s office in response to a request from SF Weekly. From January 2009 through the end of last month, according to the records, Harris has obtained murder or voluntary manslaughter convictions for just 11 out of 20 homicide defendants at trial, with the rest acquitted or convicted on lesser charges.


Jim Hammer, former head of the homicide division in the San Francisco D.A.'s office and a member of the city's Police Commission, said the criminal justice system eventually starts to break down if defendants and their attorneys don't perceive tough odds before a jury, and thus have no incentive to agree to plea deals that spare time, conserve resources, and secure convictions in cases that otherwise might be hard to prove in court. In this sense, he said, trial performance is a vital measure of any D.A.'s office.

“Part of the effectiveness of a D.A. in a case is a real fear on behalf of the defense bar that the defense will lose,” said Hammer, who worked under Hallinan and is rumored to be planning a run for district attorney in 2011. “If the D.A. is batting .500, it really destroys the effectiveness of the D.A., and it suggests some very deep problem in the office.”

Harris declined repeated requests for an interview through her spokesman, Brian Buckelew. Asked about the recent spate of unsuccessful cases, Buckelew said the past year and a half is an insufficient amount of time to look at when asserting trends in the office's performance, and that trials represent a small slice — only 2 to 3 percent — of the thousands of felony cases handled annually. The failed trial prosecutions, he said, were “cases we believed in, and still believe in, but sometimes they don't work out the way we had hoped. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't have been brought to trial in the first place.”

Ironically, some observers in the criminal justice system say the lower trial conviction rates stem from politically motivated charging policies Harris has adopted to boost her tough-on-crime bona fides since she announced her run for attorney general at the end of 2008. Critics say these policies, even though they serve the effect of posting higher overall convictions and more severe sentences, also push many weak cases to trial.

The result is a justice system that looks healthy by certain statistical measures, but fails to mete out justice for the city's worst crimes on a surprisingly regular basis.
“I think there is an appearance that they are being tough on crime,” said Rebecca Young, managing attorney of the felony unit at the San Francisco Public Defender's office. “It's probably an illusion, but when all you care about is appearance, maybe you don't care that it's an illusion.”

When it comes to criminal law, San Francisco has always been a defense attorney's town. Described as a “prosecutor's hell” by Hallinan, the city has liberal social instincts and a high education level that make for a jury pool observers say leans distinctly in favor of the criminally accused.

When you combine those jurors with a historically talented and aggressive defense bar, prosecutors have their work cut out for them. Lore in the D.A.'s office at 850 Bryant has it that years ago one new prosecutor, who had been recruited from out of state, jokingly dubbed its homicide division the “manslaughter division,” a nod to the frequency with which murder cases resulted in convictions on lesser charges.


Because of the control they exercise over which cases to pursue, prosecutors typically enjoy overwhelming trial success margins. The Alameda County D.A.'s office, for example, which handles criminal cases in Oakland, had a 92 percent felony trial success rate in 2009, according to office spokeswoman Teresa Drenick.

“I practiced in other courts, and tried cases in other courts throughout the state,” said former Chief Deputy Public Defender Peter Keane, now a professor at Golden Gate University School of Law. “I tried cases in Alameda County, in Sacramento County, in Los Angeles County, and in places like Orange County. I can tell you that San Francisco is a defense attorney's dream, in terms of juries, where other places are nightmares.”

Yet some veteran courtroom practitioners dispute the characterization of San Francisco juries as lenient, at least when it comes to violent crime.

“You bring murder cases, they've got no problem with those,” said former San Francisco prosecutor Jim Lassart. “You bring sexual-assault cases, they've got no problem with those. You bring good home-burglary cases, they've got no problem with those. I live in the city. I have wacky neighbors, like we all do, but they're not that wacky. They're lenient in their attitudes, but not on everything. Not on serious violent crimes.”


Statistics suggest that those are some of the very cases San Francisco prosecutors have started to lose. In 2006, 2007, and 2008, Harris obtained convictions on murder or voluntary manslaughter charges for 86 percent of defendants in homicide trials, according to records from the D.A.'s office. (Convictions in murder trials on involuntary manslaughter, a charge typically reserved for unintentional killings such as those resulting from drunk-driving accidents, are normally considered failures by prosecutors.) In 2009 and the first part of 2010, by contrast, only 55 percent of those defendants were convicted.

Prominent felony trials lost by prosecutors at the D.A.'s office during 2009 and 2010 include:

• Alleged Visitacion Valley gangsters Joc Wilson, Floyd Jackson, and Emon Brown were acquitted following a double-murder trial that lasted five months. Despite the prosecution's use of DNA evidence implicating one of the defendants and four eyewitnesses from a neighborhood notorious for its reluctance to cooperate with police, the jury returned not-guilty verdicts on all charges after just a day of deliberations.

• DeEbony Smith, a Western Addition resident with 16 prior police-reported instances of violent behavior, was accused of first-degree murder after she killed her ex-boyfriend by stabbing him during an argument in his car. She was acquitted after Teresa Caffese, her lawyer and the chief attorney in the public defender's office, presented evidence that Smith had previously been abused by her victim.

• Leroy Brown, a 65-year-old resident of the Tenderloin, stabbed a man to death for allegedly selling him $10 worth of fake crack. Although the exchange leading up to the killing was caught on video cameras, Brown's lawyer argued that he acted in self-defense, and the jury acquitted Brown of murder. Instead, he received an involuntary manslaughter conviction.

• Nicholas Batchelor, a 28-year-old night grocery clerk, stabbed off-duty San Francisco Police Sgt. John Burke with a spring-assisted knife following a road-rage altercation that took place while Batchelor was driving through the Haight. Batchelor was acquitted of assault with a deadly weapon; while he acknowledged stabbing the cop, stashing the knife in the trunk of his car, and leaving the scene of the crime, he claimed that the action was done in self-defense after Burke struck him in the face and tackled him.


Even criminal-defense lawyers admit some surprise at how their fortunes have turned in the courtroom. “It seems unusual to be winning so many serious cases,” said Deputy Public Defender Steve Olmo, who represented Wilson.

While the at-trial performance of the San Francisco D.A.'s office through successive administrations is difficult to track, there is evidence that Harris has been even less successful than her predecessors.

Reliable record-keeping at the San Francisco Superior Court began only several years ago, after Harris had already assumed office. But telling statistics can be found in California Department of Justice records. While the department does not specifically track prosecutors' performance at trial, it does record annual courtroom acquittals.

During the three years leading up to 2008 — the most recent year tracked by the department — Harris had a total of 83 felony trial acquittals. Hallinan had 51 during his final three years in office, and former D.A. Arlo Smith just 12. (All three filed comparable numbers of felony charges over that time, so the differences aren't due to caseload volume. Buckelew questioned the veracity of the D.O.J. data, noting that numbers of acquittals under Hallinan and Smith seemed “way too low.”)

In other words, even allowing for the skeptical bent of San Francisco jurors, statistics suggest that when it comes to trial performance, something has changed for the worse at the D.A.'s office. What's going on?

Earlier this year, Deputy Public Defender Carmen Aguirre said, she had an exchange with a counterpart in the D.A.'s office that illustrates a possible answer to that question. Aguirre was representing a defendant, Raynard Cooper, charged with assault with a deadly weapon. The victim had disappeared and was unavailable for cross-examination at trial, and she and an assistant district attorney were fighting over whether his testimony during a preliminary hearing should be admitted as evidence.

In a sidebar at the bench that took place during a courtroom hearing, Aguirre said, the prosecutor made an admission to her and the judge. “I'm not going to fight to allow this transcript into evidence,” the assistant D.A. said. “I actually believe that this man may be innocent, but my hands are tied by my office.” The prosecutor dismissed the case only after the judge granted the defense's motion to exclude the victim's statements, making a conviction virtually impossible.

It was a strange episode, and not just because prosecutors are morally obligated to dismiss cases in which they don't believe the defendant to be guilty. Aguirre said the exchange also shed light on broader changes she and other lawyers have noticed at the D.A.'s office. “That's the problem,” she said. “The office is encouraging this. This guy, if he did what he felt was right, he would have been putting his job on the line.”

While Aguirre did not share the names of the defendant or prosecutor with SF Weekly, saying she did not want to get the assistant district attorney into trouble, the defendant's name was provided by the D.A.'s office. According to court records, the prosecutor who handled Cooper's case was Tony Hernandez.

Asked about the incident, Buckelew disputed the details of Hernandez' exchange with Aguirre, saying the prosecutor “had frank conversations about the weakness of the case” with her but never asserted the defendant might be innocent. (Hernandez could not be reached by press time to discuss details of the case.) Prosecutors should unequivocally drop cases they don't believe in, Buckelew said.

Nevertheless, some current and former criminal attorneys interviewed by SF Weekly said Harris has adopted more inflexible charging procedures to look tough on crime for the attorney general's race, countering doubts that might arise among state voters because of her refusal to seek the death penalty in murder cases.

“There's this whole perception that San Francisco is soft on crime,” Olmo said. “They want strikes. They want prison. I think it's a lot of politics.” Even if a bad case goes to trial, he noted, “They can blame it on the jury. They can say, 'Well, we tried.'”

These observations aren't confined to prosecutors' adversaries on the defense bar. A veteran San Francisco prosecutor, who left during Harris' current term after more than two decades as an assistant D.A. and requested anonymity to discuss the office's workings candidly, described an atmosphere in which assistant D.A.'s were pressured by managers to boost conviction and sentencing statistics, rather than fulfill their ethical duty to seek justice.

“Prosecutorial discretion was a joke,” the former assistant D.A. told SF Weekly. “A lot of [assistant] D.A.'s became afraid of actually exercising any type of discretion. As a result, they push it forward all the way.”

To make things worse, the former prosecutor said, many of the managers granted new control by Harris over individual case decisions were inexperienced trial lawyers promoted for their loyalty to her administration and political goals: “It was turning more political. People were being moved around so fast, too fast. This is your end result, the conviction rate dropping. Brain drain — that's what happened at the D.A.'s office.”

There is some irony to criticisms suggesting that Harris' efforts to get tough on crime have led to a poor trial conviction rate. One of the hardest knocks on her during her early years in office was that she was unwilling to take homicide cases to trial or seek tough sentences, instead letting defendants off with pretrial pleas or refusing to file charges at all based on arrests made by the police.

Chris Kelly, a Facebook executive and attorney who is running against Harris in the Democratic primary, continues to argue that her alleged reluctance to pursue some cases — particularly when combined with a low at-trial conviction rate — is evidence of her ineffectiveness.

“This is yet another disappointing example of San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris' revolving door for criminals,” Kelly said in an e-mail response to information shared with his office by SF Weekly. “Not only is her office not charging crimes, now they're even failing to get convictions on those limited cases they choose to bring to trial.”

Claims about Harris' reluctance to file charges are dubious. Department of Justice statistics reveal that in 2008, she charged more than 67 percent of felony cases brought to her by police officers, the highest rate of prosecutions based on arrests in the past 18 years. When it comes to serious violent crimes, it's clear that prosecutors are now taking many cases forward. They're just not always winning.

It comes as no surprise, of course, that defense attorneys lament Harris' more aggressive stance on crime, particularly since it appears to have paid dividends in the form of a higher overall conviction rate — despite decreasing numbers of trial convictions — and tougher sentences. In 2008, according to state statistics, close to 15 percent of convictions resulted in prison sentences, compared to just 8 percent during Hallinan's last year in office.

Buckelew, a front-line assistant district attorney himself, said Harris has made no secret of her tougher stance on some offenses, notably robberies and home burglaries, for which prosecutors are now demanding prison time rather than acceding to the old defense refrain of “probation and a program” for rehabilitation.

“There's been a paradigm shift with respect to certain classes of cases,” he said. “Robberies in other counties are prison cases. It's a violent felony. At some point, when the crime's at a certain magnitude, the punishment should be at a certain level.”

Buckelew did acknowledge that managers' decisions on how to handle cases can sometimes be too rigid, but denied that they were motivated by “tough-on-crime” politics. “I think, on occasion, the individual characteristics of the cases may not be given enough weight,” he said. “But it also furthers an important goal — to bring the punishment in line with what it should be.”

Buckelew said the 53 percent conviction rate for the first quarter of 2010 was a poor indicator of the office's performance. “That's just too short of a snapshot to say it's a trend,” he said. “A lot of tough cases were [tried] in the beginning of the year.”

He pointed to trials such as those of Smith and Brown. On closer inspection, some justifiable reasons for these losses become apparent. In the case of Smith, a judge ruled that most of the police reports on her past violent behavior couldn't be admitted into evidence, while her victim's history of domestic violence was presented more fully at the trial.

Brown, an Air Force veteran, was lucky in his choice of victim, a man two decades younger than him who witnesses testified had attacked multiple Tenderloin residents in the previous year. In the double-murder acquittal of the alleged Visitacion Valley gang members, the eyewitnesses were unable to firmly identify all the defendants at trial; defense attorneys argued that a defendant's DNA, found on the bicycle used by one of the murderers, could have been deposited there before the crime occurred.

Buckelew also noted that prosecutors have secured first-degree murder convictions in several difficult and high-profile cases in the past two years, including those of former reality television show contestant Jamal Trulove — whose conviction earlier this year relied on a single eyewitness — and Julio Melendez, convicted last year in a 13-year-old shooting that followed an argument at the El Toro nightclub.

The push for tougher sentences and more convictions hasn't always been consistent. At times, the D.A.'s office has evidenced a bizarre dichotomy between hard-line approaches to some cases and shows of len-iency in others.

Last summer, for example, came the case of Earl Davis, who robbed a Starbucks near the Panhandle weeks after serving a sentence for battery in the San Francisco County Jail. Davis was caught on video, and the police officers who arrested him wanted a stiff prison sentence.

Instead, he was let off with a second-degree robbery plea and sent back to the county jail for nine months. In an unusual move, the cops who arrested him took their complaints to reporters at KGO-TV, who ran a news spot ominously titled, “Is San Francisco too soft on crime?” (FONZ NOTE -- Earl Davis was black) :ssshhh:

Such easily secured plea deals — scored as “convictions” for the purposes of office record-keeping and official state crime reporting — might help explain how overall felony convictions remain high, even while the trial conviction rate drops.

Whether the charging decisions are too hard or too soft, a general absence of wise decision-making on when to hold and when to fold a case is a plausible explanation for a trial conviction rate that has dropped as low as San Francisco's, according to Robert Weisberg, codirector of the Criminal Justice Center at Stanford Law School.

“It's more likely to be a problem in the overall structure of case selection and allocation of lawyers than quality of blow-by-blow trial strategy,” he said. “When you get down to something like 50 percent, there's something funny going on.”

No amount of explanation or analysis will bring much comfort to those who don't see justice done when a prosecution fails. Byron Smith, known as “Beaner” to friends and relatives, is still remembered fondly in the run-down corner of Visitacion Valley he called home. On Sept. 2, 2007, Smith was gunned down in a garage on Velasco Avenue by two men on bicycles.

“He started having kids really young. He ended up with five. He was a visible father. He was there,” said one of Smith's family members, who requested anonymity because the three men accused of murdering him were acquitted.

The case against Smith's suspected killers — Wilson and Brown — was tough from the start, but prosecutors had a few unusual advantages. Wilson's DNA had been found on one of the bicycles, and bystanders who witnessed various stages of the murder agreed to testify.

Police alleged that Smith had been an active gang leader, his slaying the latest strike in a turf war between the Sunnydale projects' Down Below Gang and Towerside gang. Along with a third man, Floyd Jackson, Wilson and Brown were also charged in the shooting death of Brandon Perkins the previous month. It was widely believed in Visitacion Valley that the three young men who were arrested had been responsible for the murders, according to a longtime neighborhood resident who also requested anonymity. “Even their parents probably don't think they're innocent,” the resident said.

In February, all three were acquitted of murder charges and walked out of the Hall of Justice free men. “I'm thinking that the jurors either were threatened or something had to have happened,” Smith's relative said. “From my understanding, [the prosecutors] had the guns, they had [the accused], they had witnesses. So what more do you need?”

The family member was particularly frustrated that the witnesses' testimony didn't produce a guilty verdict. “I feel sorry for Byron's wife and kids. But more than that, you know who I feel sorry for? That lady who put her life on the line to come forward and said she saw it. You finally get someone to say something, and you don't even secure a conviction?”

This is why trials, and their outcomes, are central to the proper functioning of the criminal justice system. Prosecutors nationwide take felony trials seriously because they are law enforcement's ultimate proving ground. Failure before a jury disappoints those who seek justice — victims, witnesses, cops — and encourages those who defy it.

In the words of Public Defender Jeff Adachi, a trial is “the ultimate test.” Harris has no shortage of political aplomb, and can justifiably point to an arsenal of public safety statistics, from stiffer prison sentences to higher numbers of charges filed, that indicate fronts on which her office is doing well. But this is one test she isn't passing.



I think this article is a very important break down of Harris's record as a District Attorney. It looks at both sides of the coin ...

I wonder how many people will actually read this


or will they just say..

I'm capping for Kamala .. Not when it comes to her conviction record as a DA... but I've also been in the trenches as a Public Defender working against DAs and I would fucking love to have a 1 and 2 conviction rate against them.
 
Fonz,

Do you think this movement cares about facts or truth? They need a common "enemy."
Treat them like the rest of BGOL does and just let them 'like' and circle-jerk each other.
:hithead:

I drive the most traffic to this board, members literally log in early in the morning looking to respond to me. Its time we start talking about me having a share of the board bruh. I'm the star of this bitch.
 
I drive the most traffic to this board, members literally log in early in the morning looking to respond to me. Its time we start talking about me having a share of the board bruh. I'm the star of this bitch.
now that deserves a...
:lol: :roflmao: :lol: :roflmao: :lol: :roflmao: :lol: :roflmao: :lol: :roflmao: :lol: :roflmao:
funniest thing you ever typed in your miserable life.
love the title of the thread btw.
 
??? man-google?? ---

I don't think I've talked about Ados in like a year.

I just wanted read more about it.... and I point out that he was a DA. I didn't know that... So that means he locked up people.

And

You know what...

I've got time..

Sure I'll look up Kamala's record as a DA. I know what it is.. but sure I'll look it up again.. Hell I'll look up Joe Biden's legislative polices...

I know you are talking about the Crime bill

Hell I'll look up all the other people who signed off on this bill ..... including those from the Black Caucus ....

Maybe point out the people who at that time... Also supported the Bill..

Hell let's look at the Houses version of the Crime Bill..

Cause..

Duh ... Both Chambers would need to draft similar bills.

Let's See who in the House.. Signed off on this.. "JOE BIDEN Crime Bill" .....



I don't get in my feelings in shit.

I can look at both sides and see wrong and I'll talk about that shit... If Dems fucked up.. I'll point it out. If Repubs fuck up I'll point it out.

I do this shit on the job everyday... This helps to keep the old mind fresh.

Hell if I'm wrong in something.. I'll be the first to eat that Crow and admit it.... It's a learning lesson.

Props on the Kamala info. At least you are examining it. As for Biden, he has held public office for damn near 50 years. His legislative history long precedes the 1994 Crime Bill, although that bill is a significant part of it.
 
Fonz,

Do you think this movement cares about facts or truth? They need a common "enemy."
Treat them like the rest of BGOL does and just let them 'like' and circle-jerk each other.
:hithead:

We post nothing but facts and truth. Why don’t you post the true story of the exploited Black man you have as your avatar?
 
??? man-google?? ---

I don't think I've talked about Ados in like a year.

I just wanted read more about it.... and I point out that he was a DA. I didn't know that... So that means he locked up people.

And

You know what...

I've got time..

Sure I'll look up Kamala's record as a DA. I know what it is.. but sure I'll look it up again.. Hell I'll look up Joe Biden's legislative polices...

I know you are talking about the Crime bill

Hell I'll look up all the other people who signed off on this bill ..... including those from the Black Caucus ....

Maybe point out the people who at that time... Also supported the Bill..

Hell let's look at the Houses version of the Crime Bill..

Cause..

Duh ... Both Chambers would need to draft similar bills.

Let's See who in the House.. Signed off on this.. "JOE BIDEN Crime Bill" .....



I don't get in my feelings in shit.

I can look at both sides and see wrong and I'll talk about that shit... If Dems fucked up.. I'll point it out. If Repubs fuck up I'll point it out.

I do this shit on the job everyday... This helps to keep the old mind fresh.

Hell if I'm wrong in something.. I'll be the first to eat that Crow and admit it.... It's a learning lesson.

Also, while you’re researching, get started with understanding some ADOS info as well:

 
??? man-google?? ---

I don't think I've talked about Ados in like a year.

I just wanted read more about it.... and I point out that he was a DA. I didn't know that... So that means he locked up people.

And

You know what...

I've got time..

Sure I'll look up Kamala's record as a DA. I know what it is.. but sure I'll look it up again.. Hell I'll look up Joe Biden's legislative polices...

I know you are talking about the Crime bill

Hell I'll look up all the other people who signed off on this bill ..... including those from the Black Caucus ....

Maybe point out the people who at that time... Also supported the Bill..

Hell let's look at the Houses version of the Crime Bill..

Cause..

Duh ... Both Chambers would need to draft similar bills.

Let's See who in the House.. Signed off on this.. "JOE BIDEN Crime Bill" .....



I don't get in my feelings in shit.

I can look at both sides and see wrong and I'll talk about that shit... If Dems fucked up.. I'll point it out. If Repubs fuck up I'll point it out.

I do this shit on the job everyday... This helps to keep the old mind fresh.

Hell if I'm wrong in something.. I'll be the first to eat that Crow and admit it.... It's a learning lesson.
actually Kamala's record is truthfully more progressive than the peanut gallery try to claim! perfect ? no! but not as horrid as ppl try to claim to make her look bad and i hope they use the same yardstick for every black congressman & clergy who pushed for and assisted that crime bill! or is it only Joe singlehandedly doing it & kamala while she was AG?
 
Also, while you’re researching, get started with understanding some ADOS info as well:


Sure...
 

First off..

Didn't Samuel Cook dream of bettering the relationship between African Americans and Jews....


Personally Brother is a Champion of mine... and I don't care about this..

But I know how some of ya'll are about promoting racial relationships...
 
What We Get Wrong About Closing the Racial Wealth Gap

The racial wealth gap in America is both striking and durable. It is neither inexplicable that the gap exists, given the history of the country, nor surprising that it persists, given the nature of wealth. As the authors note in this report:

“[W]ealth begets more wealth. Higher levels of wealth enable greater access to more favorable terms for credit. Wealth provides individuals and families with financial agency and choice; it provides economic security to take risks and shields against the risk of economic loss. Basically, wealth is cumulative. It provides people with the necessary capital to secure finance and purchase an appreciating asset, which in turn, will generate more and more wealth (Hamilton, 2017). Literally, it takes wealth to make wealth, while blacks largely have been excluded from intergenerational access to capital and finance.”

It is perhaps because these inequities in wealth are so large that many feel compelled to try to explain why they exist. And so they offer myriad explanations for the wealth gap, each of which this report painstakingly debunks.

Key Findings
  • The median black household holds just ten percent of the wealth of median white household, and while blacks constitute thirteen percent of America’s population, they hold less than three percent of its wealth. (fonz agrees)
  • None of the myths commonly offered to explain away the racial wealth gap–a need for greater educational attainment, homeownership, or entrepreneurship; a lack of proper savings behavior, financial literacy, or commitment to “buying and banking black”; or a renewed focus towards soft skills, personal responsibility, improved family structures, or emulating successful minorities–come close to accounting for the vastness of the gap. (completely agree)
  • Often these myths aren’t just wrong, but the exact opposite is true. For example, on the topic of savings behavior: “A study conducted by the Institute on Assets and Social Policy using the 2013 Survey of Consumer Finances found that, at comparable levels of income, whites spend 1.3 times more than blacks.” Or, when it comes to prioritizing education, black families tend to be more supportive of children’s education (through direct financial support) than white families in similar households and socioeconomic positions.

Completely agree with all of this...

This is exactly why I strongly oppose Republican Reagonomics

Reaganomics




The same policies that Trump pushed .... which had the same effect as effect

Supply Side and Trickle down economics Can't work in todays market....

This why is gap will continue to rise...


So what's anyone going to do about it other than... Vote for people that will fix this... every election ... until we have enough people that can actually change shit

The end.
 
What We Get Wrong About Closing the Racial Wealth Gap

The racial wealth gap in America is both striking and durable. It is neither inexplicable that the gap exists, given the history of the country, nor surprising that it persists, given the nature of wealth. As the authors note in this report:

“[W]ealth begets more wealth. Higher levels of wealth enable greater access to more favorable terms for credit. Wealth provides individuals and families with financial agency and choice; it provides economic security to take risks and shields against the risk of economic loss. Basically, wealth is cumulative. It provides people with the necessary capital to secure finance and purchase an appreciating asset, which in turn, will generate more and more wealth (Hamilton, 2017). Literally, it takes wealth to make wealth, while blacks largely have been excluded from intergenerational access to capital and finance.”

It is perhaps because these inequities in wealth are so large that many feel compelled to try to explain why they exist. And so they offer myriad explanations for the wealth gap, each of which this report painstakingly debunks.

Key Findings
  • The median black household holds just ten percent of the wealth of median white household, and while blacks constitute thirteen percent of America’s population, they hold less than three percent of its wealth. (fonz agrees)
  • None of the myths commonly offered to explain away the racial wealth gap–a need for greater educational attainment, homeownership, or entrepreneurship; a lack of proper savings behavior, financial literacy, or commitment to “buying and banking black”; or a renewed focus towards soft skills, personal responsibility, improved family structures, or emulating successful minorities–come close to accounting for the vastness of the gap. (completely agree)
  • Often these myths aren’t just wrong, but the exact opposite is true. For example, on the topic of savings behavior: “A study conducted by the Institute on Assets and Social Policy using the 2013 Survey of Consumer Finances found that, at comparable levels of income, whites spend 1.3 times more than blacks.” Or, when it comes to prioritizing education, black families tend to be more supportive of children’s education (through direct financial support) than white families in similar households and socioeconomic positions.

Completely agree with all of this...

This is exactly why I strongly oppose Republican Reagonomics

Reaganomics




The same policies that Trump pushed .... which had the same effect as effect

Supply Side and Trickle down economics Can't work in todays market....

This why is gap will continue to rise...


So what's anyone going to do about it other than... Vote for people that will fix this... every election ... until we have enough people that can actually change shit

The end.

OK. Now we’re getting on the same page. You say “Vote for people that will fix this... every election”. Which is a large part of what we mean by a BLACK AGENDA. Now, has this been a mainstream priority (before ADOS) of the Democratic Party? Did we see a concerted effort to bring this to the forefront during the Obama Administration? Or did we (and do), see immigration and LGBT as their top priorities? Other than COVID, which is clearly important, this is what I see on Harris’ and Biden’s timelines:

 
They gotta find a Twitter or YouTube post first. I’m willing to admit when I’m wrong but I didn’t realize he was a prosecutor..
Sheeet........

I’ve got plenty of law school homies. Some are ADA at Fed, some ATL local, some Defense. I understand being a Prosecutor and the role one can play in being an instrument of fair and equitable justice. But somebody has got to at least talk about it.

Waiting for the Smart reponse....
 
They gotta find a Twitter or YouTube post first. I’m willing to admit when I’m wrong but I didn’t realize he was a prosecutor..
Sheeet........

I’ve got plenty of law school homies. Some are ADA at Fed, some ATL local, some Defense. I understand being a Prosecutor and the role one can play in being an instrument of fair and equitable justice. But somebody has got to at least talk about it.

He’s talking about something that we’ve been aware of and that Tone has talked about himself. It’s amazing how y’all want to talk about everything but the issues at hand:

 
OK. Now we’re getting on the same page. You say “Vote for people that will fix this... every election. Which is a large part of what we mean by a BLACK AGENDA. Now, has this been a mainstream priority (before ADOS) of the Democratic Party? Did we see a concerted effort to bring this to the forefront during the Obama Administration? Or did we (and do), see immigration and LGBT as their top priorities? Other than COVID, which is clearly important, this is what I see on Harris’ and Biden’s timelines:

This is my experience with politics ....

The longer you stay in the game... the less you give a shit... So yes you need new blood in there.

But New blood will get eaten alive because they will never get anything passed unless they are willing to signoff on bills that they do not agree on... because they don't have the pull to get their agenda on their own..


Like you can put 20 African Americans in office with a Clear agenda in the House...

But they only have two years to do shit..

They will have agendas but unless there are enough people to sign on their bill... None of their shit is going to pass..

So you need to elect large numbers of people that will support their agenda..

Some might be Socialist .... Some might be Gay ... Some might be Trans.. Some Asian ... Some White..

But All in the same party... You need numbers from all over the nation to gain a Super Majority.

Over time... Every two years... You strengthen the party... You elect more of the same party ... while continuing to add ... More Black Americans to office... You do this to raise confidence in the process

So that more of us.. will see they can run and win...

We will have some set backs.. .cause Republicans will find a down year... and try to gain numbers..

So we need enough numbers in office on both sides.... to be able to Survive hits to the majority

.... Say you want Reparations ...

You get a Simple Majority in the House and the Senate..

So you said Fuck it...

You blow the Wad and Sign off on Reparations ... the house approves .. It goes to the Senate.. they approve it..

The president approves it

And then it goes to Finance ...

Well guess what...

Buy the time you get that shit through Finance ....

It's been two years... Election Time

White Folk... Are going to be PISSED!!!!

Come out in Huge Numbers

We get lazy... We Won..

Who Cares....

Repubs...

Take the Majority

Repeal the Law.. ....

State AGs Sue the Law to the Supreme Court ... (the Conservative Supreme Court) ... Find this Discriminatory and that's it...
Reparations are dead

Cause this..


I agree ... I think the Supreme Court will find reparations unconstitutional ...

So to fix this... You would have to amend the constitution or have liberal justices ...

The End...
 
Since there is always one fucker that has to ruin shit.... I'm back in here

20 something pages and a third party had to come in and ruin my fun calling KingBitch ... KingBitch...

I still have the complete right to Call Him KingBitch and will continue to call him a lazy poster ...

This dude needed a 3rd party to be his salvation. :smh:
 

Retraction note to: Disinformation creep: ADOS and the strategic weaponization of breaking news​

The HKS Misinformation Review retracts the article “Disinformation creep: ADOS and the strategic weaponization of breaking news”(https://doi.org/10.37016/mr-2020-52), which was published in the journal on January 18, 2021.

BY​

HKS MISINFORMATION REVIEW EDITORIAL STAFF



After concerns were brought to our attention by the organization that is the object of the study, challenging the validity of the findings reported by Nkonde et al., the journal commissioned an internal review, conducted by a Harvard researcher not directly affiliated with the journal. The internal review found flaws in the methodology, as well as discrepancies between the data and the findings reported by the authors, resulting in unsubstantiated conclusions drawn from their analyses. We then commissioned an external independent review to verify the findings of the initial investigation.

The external review found that Nkonde et al.’s study failed to meet professional standards of validity and reliability. The review stated that “the conclusions drawn by the authors are supported primarily by their interpretation of a few selected tweets by ADOS leadership,” and that “the quantitative analysis is insufficiently connected to the conclusions” of the paper. The reviewer conducted a partial replication of the quantitative analysis and found that it did not support the authors’ findings that Boseman’s passing “barely registered” in the ADOS network or their conclusion that the network exhibits a “lack of concern” for COVID-19.

After the post-publication review process was completed, the authors were invited to respond to the issues identified by the two reviewers. In their response, the authors conceded several of the defects in the study identified by the internal and external reviewers. The retraction decision was not taken lightly but is one that we feel was necessary, as certain of the principal conclusions reported in this paper cannot be considered reliable or valid.

It is important to acknowledge that this outcome also represents a failure of the journal’s editorial process. We, thus, intend to scrutinize our own practices, procedures, and policies to prevent similar occurrences in the future.

 
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