A collection of #ADOS Tweets from @KingTahara that no one cares about

[fonzerrillii]

it is telling that the dudes that are well read and clearly educated can see past that bullshit website while many others can not.

That's how Trump got elected...

I'm talking about direct things for the black community. Of course, those things have helped black people. For some reason, ADOS thinks those things aren't shit unless it's exclusive to them.

I knew that that was what you were talking about.. I was piggybacking your point.. Cause that is something that I always hear from some of the Anti-Obama black people....

What did Obama specifically do for Black People..

My Response is always.... What else could he have done in the first two years of his term? Because the rest of his presidency was either totally or partially controlled by a Congress that was full on Tea Party.

It's like people don't know how government works.

 

[veritech]

It's like people don't know how government works.

they don't. thus my comment about civics classes.

 

[Famous1]

And you are full of shit. Go back and read your comments. You making assumptions about my empathy towards people based on bullshit you cooked up in your head. But carry on...my argument has been on multiple threads the same.

1. Black is Black. No need to fight other black people (ADOS) when we are all treated the same in America.
2. Reparations are OWED. I do not object to them nor feel like they aren't worth fighting for.
3. What I DO have an issue with is fighting other black folks (Africans and Caribbeans) living in America OVER reparations. They haven't been awarded so why fight your fellow black folks in the diaspora over it?
4. Withholding your votes will not make them bend (but it's absolutely your right to do so, don't vote if that what you believe). It will only ensure people that REALLY hate black folks get in power and push you back further from your goals.

I'll leave it like that. You can continue to make dumb assumptions about my mindset if you'd like.

Whateva my guy... I see you..
And you've made way more assumptions than I have... Its a trait..

 

[Drayonis]

It's like people don't know how government works.

They really don't though. People don't even understand the difference between Federal and State. They think the president can just make sweeping changes on the state level...I've had that argument too many times.

 

[Drayonis]

I said that before. The main focus of the ADOS movement is to galvanise black folks to not vote. And certain actors will use that to spread the agenda.

Notice whenever we discuss voting or politics in any other thread the same "actors" show up?

That's how Trump got elected...




I knew that that was what you were talking about.. I was piggybacking your point.. Cause that is something that I always here from some of the Anti-Obama black people....

What did Obama specifically do for Black People..

My Response is always.... What else could he have done in the first two years of his term? Because the rest of his presidency was either totally or partially controlled by a Congress that was full on Tea Party.

It's like people don't know how government works.

 

[fonzerrillii]

They really don't though. People don't even understand the difference between Federal and State. They think the president can just make sweeping changes on the state level...I've had that argument too many times.

Dude... it continues to drive me insane....

People think that a President can come into office and just wreck shop.. Changing everything.. and they just cant. They are limited in what they do. It's why we have a check and a Balance system...

For example... Look what Trump had to sink to in order to get 5.2 billion for a wall. If Obama did the same thing to fund his affordable health care act... People would have been livid.


True power is in the Local and State level...

You take over the Local and State government.. You force the hand of the federal level. You prevent voter redistricting. You make sure that the Schools are properly funded. You make sure that in-state tuition is held in check.

 

[Drayonis]

Dude... it continues to drive me insane....

People think that a President can come into office and just wreck shop.. Changing everything.. and they just cant. They are limited in what they do. It's why we have a check and a Balance system...

For example... Look what Trump had to sink to in order to get 5.2 billion for a wall. If Obama did the same thing to fund his affordable health care act... People would have been livid.


True power is in the Local and State level...

You take over the Local and State government.. You force the hand of the federal level. You prevent voter redistricting. You make sure that the Schools are properly funded. You make sure that in-state tuition is held in check.

Bingo.

 

[Mr. Met]

@14:00

BAIO made good points here. We really don’t understand the rules of reparations.

 

[slewdem100]

I can get see myself getting behind the concepts within the Agenda.... if the agenda mentioned a clear path or strategy on how it seeks to achieve it.


As it is now... It seems like a tool to create dissension and confusion through a muddled message.

Just go through and look at the comments within this thread alone.. You don't even have to go to twitter to see exactly what it's accomplishing..

To plant seeds now..

So people can see what the freshly democractic house does in office... If things don't change.... then the campaign will ramp up the aggression closer to next years election to tell people "THE DEMOCRATS DON"T DESERVE YOUR VOTE" .... They didn't do anything for black people while in power.

I will bet 5 dollars that next year... this is exactly what will happen.

So we will then either not vote, vote for an independent or vote for some white republican..... While at the same time... Ask this White republican to give us our due.

When the true plan should be.... Black people need more Black people in office.. Doesn't matter if Republican or Democrat.

Notice what the website... Never mentions....

I am hoping that the agenda leads to something...but I can definitely see the don't vote thing if people aren't extremely careful with this

 

[Joe Money]

Finally took time to read the website....


This is straight up ... a don’t vote in 2020 movement and I can see why people think it is a troll site.

There are numerous tells in this site..

The first is that it is specifically designed to lead people to believe that the Democratic Party is the enemy of black people with the use of affirmative action and lack of support in black colleges...

While at the same time.. completely ignores the fact that support for affirmative action programs can be traced to presidents on both sides since the reconstruction era... in fact The definition that we use today is based on Nixon principles.

It shows that Reagon and other republican plresidents gave more money to black colleges... but also ignoring the fact that they specifically did this as a way to gain black republicans. It wasn’t because they wanted to save these colleges.. they wanted more highly intelligent black republicans ... while at the same time completely ignored welfare and education programs for those African Americans in poorer less urban areas.


Less also look to the fact that even the term ADOS by its pure definition completely excludes... native Americans and Spanish Americans that were also made slaves the same time we were..


I think I would be more behind this thing if it at least tried to appear that it was pointing out the issues with both sides...


As it’s written.. it’s clearly saying either Democrats (in office make these demands now) or we will not vote for you...

Why wasn’t this site created..... When trump was in office and the republicans had complete control...
Wouldn’t it have been more effective?

Why do this right now... after the Democrats take control of the house.. and before an extremely important 2020 vote.

I mean black people cant be this dumb can we?

You're an intelligent guy, but you're spewing PURE PROPAGANDA in the post above!! Or you really didn't read the site. There is nothing in the ADOS101 agenda that says "don't vote" or even implies it. They specifically state that "#ADOS #AmericanDOS sets out to shift the dialogue around the identity of what it is to be African American in an effort to move the discussion from melanin, and properly center the discussion around lineage".

I wish some of you motherfuckers would stop trying to shift the narrative to being about "not voting" or "xenophobia" or "Russian bots" and other dumb shit!

HERE'S WHAT THE MOVEMENT IS ABOUT!!! Slavery and its legacy! If you can't relate or it's not your heritage then simply fall back and STFU about it!!

 

[Joe Money]

KEEPING THIS SHIT FOCUSED!

 

[Mr. Met]

Word is that this man is the REAL progenitor of the DOS movement.

 

[gene cisco]

Dude... it continues to drive me insane....

People think that a President can come into office and just wreck shop.. Changing everything.. and they just cant. They are limited in what they do. It's why we have a check and a Balance system...

For example... Look what Trump had to sink to in order to get 5.2 billion for a wall. If Obama did the same thing to fund his affordable health care act... People would have been livid.


True power is in the Local and State level...

You take over the Local and State government.. You force the hand of the federal level. You prevent voter redistricting. You make sure that the Schools are properly funded. You make sure that in-state tuition is held in check.

Exactly. So why was there all the 'sky is falling' politics with Trump? When it's the other side, the president is basically a king. He's bigger than life. He's hitler. He has the power to ruin the fucking world. When it's our turn for shit, there's a system and the president is just a piece. The position is basically downplayed.

Also, black voters been getting played on the local level for decades. Cleveland been run by democrats for 30 years. Police brutality been rampant and the black community has been played at every fucking turn. Other cities are much the same. The bottom line is black voters been getting played at ALL LEVELS. Police unions have more local power over the politicians in black cities than black people. And those are BLACK democrats selling their constituents down the river.

But hey, voters been allowing this fuckery to continue for decades. Maybe ADOS should focus on the local level first and start taking cities where black people live. Cities nationwide need a cleansing.

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

Exactly. So why was there all the 'sky is falling' politics with Trump? When it's the other side, the president is basically a king. He's bigger than life. He's hitler. He has the power to ruin the fucking world. When it's our turn for shit, there's a system and the president is just a piece. The position is basically downplayed.

Also, black voters been getting played on the local level for decades. Cleveland been run by democrats for 30 years. Police brutality been rampant and the black community has been played at every fucking turn. Other cities are much the same. The bottom line is black voters been getting played at ALL LEVELS. Police unions have more local power over the politicians in black cities than black people. And those are BLACK democrats selling their constituents down the river.

But hey, voters been allowing this fuckery to continue for decades. Maybe ADOS should focus on the local level first and start taking cities where black people live. Cities nationwide need a cleansing.

That's actually the route I started with. Start beating down those city council meeting doors!

 

[mangobob79]

I think I would be more behind this thing if it at least tried to appear that it was pointing out the issues with both sides...


As it’s written.. it’s clearly saying either Democrats (in office make these demands now) or we will not vote for you...

Why wasn’t this site created..... When trump was in office and the republicans had complete control...
Wouldn’t it have been more effective?

Why do this right now... after the Democrats take control of the house.. and before an extremely important 2020 vote.

I mean black people cant be this dumb can we?

direct things for the black community. Of course, those things have helped black people. For some reason, ADOS thinks those things aren't shit unless it's exclusive to them

Some of the references are troublesome and I have already said on here I think some of the folks behind it are xenophobes....what do you think about the actual agenda though?...I think there is something there to build on

And you are full of shit. Go back and read your comments. You making assumptions about my empathy towards people based on bullshit you cooked up in your head. But carry on...my argument has been on multiple threads the same.

1. Black is Black. No need to fight other black people (ADOS) when we are all treated the same in America.
2. Reparations are OWED. I do not object to them nor feel like they aren't worth fighting for.
3. What I DO have an issue with is fighting other black folks (Africans and Caribbeans) living in America OVER reparations. They haven't been awarded so why fight your fellow black folks in the diaspora over it?
4. Withholding your votes will not make them bend (but it's absolutely your right to do so, don't vote if that what you believe). It will only ensure people that REALLY hate black folks get in power and push you back further from your goals.

I'll leave it like that. You can continue to make dumb assumptions about my mindset if you'd like.

it all comes out in the wash !

 

[fonzerrillii]

You're an intelligent guy, but you're spewing PURE PROPAGANDA in the post above!! Or you really didn't read the site. There is nothing in the ADOS101 agenda that says "don't vote" or even implies it. They specifically state that "#ADOS #AmericanDOS sets out to shift the dialogue around the identity of what it is to be African American in an effort to move the discussion from melanin, and properly center the discussion around lineage".

I wish some of you motherfuckers would stop trying to shift the narrative to being about "not voting" or "xenophobia" or "Russian bots" and other dumb shit!

HERE'S WHAT THE MOVEMENT IS ABOUT!!! Slavery and its legacy! If you can't relate or it's not your heritage then simply fall back and STFU about it!!

Naw Fam.. I read the site several times.

This is a Don't vote site... Of course it's not going to come out and say it... that's to obvious.

If you tell a grown man..... "Don't eat this cookie".... That grown man is going to say... "I'm a grown man. How dare you tell me what to do." and he will eat the cookie.

But if you say the right phrases to make him think that not eating the cookie was his idea..... then he will likely not eat it.

(Not the best comparison... but I know some will catch the point)...

While I like the concept....

The problem is in the intentions...... Specific words were used to incite a specific response.

Everything negative was geared towards the Democratic party to lead one to say that the African American population is nothing but the lapdogs of the democratic party...

While at the same time..... Everything positive was said towards the Republican party... And I mean everything...

Could they have left all of that out to convey the same message.. YEAP...

Should they have highlighted blame on Both parties....... YEAP.....

...... Should they identify how they actually intend to accomplish anything with this movement ... YEAP..







This movement is specifically designed to create dissension among Black people...... Just look at the comments in here. Look at the comments on the website..

You have a movement .... that intentionally wants to separate on the Census those who are Americans Descendants of Slavery from Black Immigrants..

http://ados101.com/black-agenda

Has anyone even asked... How the fuck are you doing to do that? Are you going to ask everyone that looks black....... "Did your family come in on a Slave Ship?"


Did anyone think... Oh snap.. There were blacks that came over here that were never slaves? They were free their entire life. Do their family fit under this?

"Slavery was legal and practiced in each of the European colonies at various times. Not all Africans who came to America were slaves; a few came even in the 17th century as free men, sailors working on ships. In the early colonial years, some Africans came as indentured servants who were freed after a set period of years, as did many of the immigrants from the British Isles. Such servants became free when they completed their term of indenture; they were also eligible for headrights for land in the new colony in the Chesapeake Bay region, where indentured servants were more common." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Negro

What about the 300K White people that were shipped from Britain in chains and treated as Slaves prior to the Colonies using African slaves? Do they fit?

I'm in no way trying to trivialize the plight of our people...... or true grass roots movements... But I also hate to see us drawn into stupid causes....


But right now....... This isn't passing the smell test for me.

 

[mangobob79]

KEEPING THIS SHIT FOCUSED!

if Yvette & ToneTalk had kept the movement to these talking points which isnt new a new or novel idea to just that it would have been fine with alot of folks n would've gotten alot of traction but u cant act like this isnt a "reparations" movement by another name, becos of Yvette constant anti-afrikan immigrant rants & xenophobic , u cant separate the message from the messenger , infact there has been an organization called NCOBRA which has been in the trenches doing exactly the same thing and they aint anti-pan afrikan, becos they understand that u need to build collaborative effort with other black folks & groups who understand our cause
one of my earleir main issues was , where is their equal vitriol for republicans & other immigrant groups from sweden/ireland & europe & everyone else?

anyone can take martin luther's speeches & ideas & turn it to dirt if u know what u're doing

 

[fonzerrillii]

I am hoping that the agenda leads to something...but I can definitely see the don't vote thing if people aren't extremely careful with this

exactly....

It's the logical next step...

 

[fonzerrillii]

Exactly. So why was there all the 'sky is falling' politics with Trump? When it's the other side, the president is basically a king. He's bigger than life. He's hitler. He has the power to ruin the fucking world. When it's our turn for shit, there's a system and the president is just a piece. The position is basically downplayed.

Also, black voters been getting played on the local level for decades. Cleveland been run by democrats for 30 years. Police brutality been rampant and the black community has been played at every fucking turn. Other cities are much the same. The bottom line is black voters been getting played at ALL LEVELS. Police unions have more local power over the politicians in black cities than black people. And those are BLACK democrats selling their constituents down the river.

But hey, voters been allowing this fuckery to continue for decades. Maybe ADOS should focus on the local level first and start taking cities where black people live. Cities nationwide need a cleansing.

Exactly... this is what I wanted to say in my earlier post when talking about the Problems with the Democratic party..

Memphis & Shelby county is one of the most corrupt governments that I've ever seen and it was ran by Democratic Black people for decades...

It takes progressive minded Blacks on the local level... To kick these mutherfuckers out and bring in new ideas. It's going to take progressive minded Blacks in the state level... Who are willing to put people in place who are willing to fight corruption and make real change..

Until that shit happens.. then all this talk is wasteful. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know where you have to attack if you want to gain real power......... Our problem is that we constantly forget that shit and just focus on the guy in the White house... When that dude can't even draft a law.

 

[mangobob79]

Has anyone even asked... How the fuck are you doing to do that? Are you going to ask everyone that looks black....... "Did your family come in on a Slave Ship?"


Did anyone think... Oh snap.. There were blacks that came over here that were never slaves? They were free their entire life. Do their family fit under this?

and if ur family lineage came in say 1720s as opposed to 1800 do u get more?
what paternal & maternal lineage goes back only to 1850 ? does the 1720 lineage get more even if they have mixed with whites?
and what if u mother's family came in 1900 but ur father's lineage came in 1695 ,
how do u level that with someone whose father is white but mother whose paternal lineage came in 1900, ? so many variables

 

[tajshan]

so glad the sleepers are starting to awaken.

 

[veritech]

I'm so glad other people see this fuckery in progress.

 

[fonzerrillii]

and if ur family lineage came in say 1720s as opposed to 1800 do u get more?
what paternal & maternal lineage goes back only to 1850 ? does the 1720 lineage get more even if they have mixed with whites?
and what if u mother's family came in 1900 but ur father's lineage came in 1695 ,
how do u level that with someone whose father is white but mother whose paternal lineage came in 1900, ? so many variables

Exactly...

And that ladies and gentlemen is the problem with trying to use lineage.....

If this really came to pass... you would probably only have maybe 1000 black people that would actually qualify as actual American decendants of slaves.

 

[Joe Money]

Naw Fam.. I read the site several times.

This is a Don't vote site... Of course it's not going to come out and say it... that's to obvious.

If you tell a grown man..... "Don't eat this cookie".... That grown man is going to say... "I'm a grown man. How dare you tell me what to do." and he will eat the cookie.

But if you say the right phrases to make him think that not eating the cookie was his idea..... then he will likely not eat it.

(Not the best comparison... but I know some will catch the point)...

While I like the concept....

The problem is in the intentions...... Specific words were used to incite a specific response.

Everything negative was geared towards the Democratic party to lead one to say that the African American population is nothing but the lapdogs of the democratic party...

While at the same time..... Everything positive was said towards the Republican party... And I mean everything...

Once again, you're selectively reading and deliberately propagandizing.

Do the following statements sound pro right-wing, pro-Republican to you?

• The Supreme Court decided wrongly when it gutted the Voting Rights Act. As the Atlanta Journal Constitution article “It’s Time to Solve the Mystery of the 100,000 Mystery Votes” indicates, the protections outlined in the Voting Rights Act are essential to protecting the rights of ADOS in America. Reinstituting the protections of The Voting Rights Act is a key part of our agenda.

• We seek a multi-billion dollar infrastructure plan targeted to ADOS communities, including, but not limited to, the Black Belt, Flint, Michigan. A Reuters examinationpublished in 2016 found 3,000 cities with poisoning rates higher than Flint.

• As a specific group with a specific justice claim, the #ADOS movement demands a specific agenda with policy prescriptions that address the losses stemming from the institution of slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, convict leasing, mass incarceration and immigration.

• • Residents of majority ADOS areas that have been poisoned under the federal, local and state government’s watch, such as not only Flint, Michigan, but Denmark, South Carolina, and others, must be financially compensated for the benign neglect of the Environmental Protection Agency and the government in general. The Justice Department must also institute protections which exact heavy fines and federal criminal prosecution for future offenders.
  You know damn well that there is nothing pro-Republican about environmental initiatives and redistribution of wealth. Absolutely nothing. What you don't like is that there are passages that are critical of Obama and show that that were Republican presidents who were more pro-active in certain areas, like SBAs and HBCUs, than Obama was.

movement is specifically designed to create dissension among Black people...... Just look at the comments in here. Look at the comments on the website..

You have a movement .... that intentionally wants to separate on the Census those who are Americans Descendants of Slavery from Black Immigrants..

http://ados101.com/black-agenda

Has anyone even asked... How the fuck are you doing to do that? Are you going to ask everyone that looks black....... "Did your family come in on a Slave Ship?"

Did anyone think... Oh snap.. There were blacks that came over here that were never slaves? They were free their entire life. Do their family fit under this?

"Slavery was legal and practiced in each of the European colonies at various times. Not all Africans who came to America were slaves; a few came even in the 17th century as free men, sailors working on ships. In the early colonial years, some Africans came as indentured servants who were freed after a set period of years, as did many of the immigrants from the British Isles. Such servants became free when they completed their term of indenture; they were also eligible for headrights for land in the new colony in the Chesapeake Bay region, where indentured servants were more common." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Negro

What about the 300K White people that were shipped from Britain in chains and treated as Slaves prior to the Colonies using African slaves? Do they fit?

I'm in no way trying to trivialize the plight of our people...... or true grass roots movements... But I also hate to see us drawn into stupid causes....

But right now....... This isn't passing the smell test for me.

Once again, the focus isn't on just "black people." As I noted above, much of this is about history and lineage. It makes sense to separate ADOS from black immigrants. Hell, the immigrants already separate themselves by national origin or some other factor until it's convenient for them not to do so. Let's encode that in law. If you're parents or grandparents were Jamaican or Ghanaian or some other shit, let's make it official.

And you quoted from that "free Negro" wiki but you conveniently ignored key passages, such as:

• "In 1663 Virginia (followed by others) adopted the principle in slave law of partus sequitur ventrem: that children were born into the status of their mother, rather than taking the status of their father, as was then customary for English subjects under English common law. This meant that children of slave mothers were also slaves, regardless of their fathers and ethnicity."

• While free, blacks often had to struggle with reduced civil rights, such as restrictions on voting, as well as racism, segregation, or physical violence.

In other words, if you were black, you were a slave, and if you were a slave, you were black! This is about history and lineage. Miss me with the 300K white slaves, because it was not codified by law. If their descendants want to lay claim, then that's their business. Not ours.

You do have a point about the logistics of all this, but the first struggle is the acknowledge the veracity of this movement in the first place, which you're even trying to attack.

if Yvette & ToneTalk had kept the movement to these talking points which isnt new a new or novel idea to just that it would have been fine with alot of folks n would've gotten alot of traction but u cant act like this isnt a "reparations" movement by another name, becos of Yvette constant anti-afrikan immigrant rants & xenophobic , u cant separate the message from the messenger , infact there has been an organization called NCOBRA which has been in the trenches doing exactly the same thing and they aint anti-pan afrikan, becos they understand that u need to build collaborative effort with other black folks & groups who understand our cause
one of my earleir main issues was , where is their equal vitriol for republicans & other immigrant groups from sweden/ireland & europe & everyone else?

anyone can take martin luther's speeches & ideas & turn it to dirt if u know what u're doing

Yes, the ADOS movement is unique in that it draws a clear line of separation between those who trace their ancestry to American slavery vis-a-vis those who are black immigrants. If it were up to me, I'd make 1965 the line of demarcation. If you or your family immigrated to the United States after the passage of the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, then you need to step your punk-ass to the side, STFU, and let us get our due.

 

[Joe Money]

Exactly...

And that ladies and gentlemen is the problem with trying to use lineage.....

If this really came to pass... you would probably only have maybe 1000 black people that would actually qualify as actual American decendants of slaves.

Bullshit nigga! The "official" end of importation of African slaves to the U.S. was 1808. The overwhelmingly majority of Black American ancestry predates that date. You're probably talking 10% or less black people in America for whom lineage would be an issue.

 

[Joe Money]

Lies 101 : Yvette breaks down the lies and myths from ADOS critics.

Here are their biggests responses:

• ADOS are bots.
• Where is your agenda?
• Being "black" and claiming America makes you a sellout.
• You hate us because you were rejected by Wakanda (by @freeyourmindkid)
• ADOS wants to be white because Yvette said you need to access" whitenesss." (normalization)
• Other people made up the ADOS movement first
• ADOS need to be one with Africa
• ADOS must follow the black radical tradition
• ADOS should always be thinking about Africa
• ADOS must settle in Mother Africa

"Misinformation Campaign Against ADOS and Website Launch"

 

[mangobob79]

Lies 101 : Yvette breaks down the lies and myths from ADOS critics.

Here are their biggests responses:

• ADOS are bots.
• Where is your agenda?
• Being "black" and claiming America makes you a sellout.
• You hate us because you were rejected by Wakanda (by @freeyourmindkid)
• ADOS wants to be white because Yvette said you need to access" whitenesss." (normalization)
• Other people made up the ADOS movement first
• ADOS need to be one with Africa
• ADOS must follow the black radical tradition
• ADOS should always be thinking about Africa
• ADOS must settle in Mother Africa

"Misinformation Campaign Against ADOS and Website Launch"

is this what she made up in her mind?
ship is sinking ! goodluck

 

[playahaitian]

I said that before. The main focus of the ADOS movement is to galvanise black folks to not vote. And certain actors will use that to spread the agenda.

Notice whenever we discuss voting or politics in any other thread the same "actors" show up?

Exactly... this is what I wanted to say in my earlier post when talking about the Problems with the Democratic party..

Memphis & Shelby county is one of the most corrupt governments that I've ever seen and it was ran by Democratic Black people for decades...

It takes progressive minded Blacks on the local level... To kick these mutherfuckers out and bring in new ideas. It's going to take progressive minded Blacks in the state level... Who are willing to put people in place who are willing to fight corruption and make real change..

Until that shit happens.. then all this talk is wasteful. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know where you have to attack if you want to gain real power......... Our problem is that we constantly forget that shit and just focus on the guy in the White house... When that dude can't even draft a law.

Funny thing is?

I actually hear some black folk ENVY Trump supporters.

They actually believe the way Trump has attempted to create policy is how Obama SHOULD have acted.

 

[fonzerrillii]

Once again, you're selectively reading and deliberately propagandizing.

Do the following statements sound pro right-wing, pro-Republican to you?

• The Supreme Court decided wrongly when it gutted the Voting Rights Act. As the Atlanta Journal Constitution article “It’s Time to Solve the Mystery of the 100,000 Mystery Votes” indicates, the protections outlined in the Voting Rights Act are essential to protecting the rights of ADOS in America. Reinstituting the protections of The Voting Rights Act is a key part of our agenda.

• We seek a multi-billion dollar infrastructure plan targeted to ADOS communities, including, but not limited to, the Black Belt, Flint, Michigan. A Reuters examinationpublished in 2016 found 3,000 cities with poisoning rates higher than Flint.

• As a specific group with a specific justice claim, the #ADOS movement demands a specific agenda with policy prescriptions that address the losses stemming from the institution of slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, convict leasing, mass incarceration and immigration.

• • Residents of majority ADOS areas that have been poisoned under the federal, local and state government’s watch, such as not only Flint, Michigan, but Denmark, South Carolina, and others, must be financially compensated for the benign neglect of the Environmental Protection Agency and the government in general. The Justice Department must also institute protections which exact heavy fines and federal criminal prosecution for future offenders.
  You know damn well that there is nothing pro-Republican about environmental initiatives and redistribution of wealth. Absolutely nothing. What you don't like is that there are passages that are critical of Obama and show that that were Republican presidents who were more pro-active in certain areas, like SBAs and HBCUs, than Obama was.

Dude......

I’ve said repeatedly Obama was not perfect...

I can point to several serious issues with his administration..... Mainly local spying ...

I can be neutral ... this website though is pro-republican..

The issues with Flints water somehow been linked to Obama since it became a news story becauase for some reason... people think it’s a federal concern. When it’s the state... but people always bring it up to say “hey look how the democrats didn’t do anything for Flint”

The website goes out of it way to not point out a single instance of the republicans contributing to the issue...

It doesn’t nightlight a neutral stance... even though the one of the reasons we are where we are is because the republicans have been in control for decades... yet somehow and for some reason... now is the time to talk about this... now is the time bring up this website... not even a month after the democrats took control of the house.

Are you telling me that theses two people, who have been supposedly talking about this movement for awhile... have waited all this time to finally reveal their master Wordpress website... why not reveal this last year... prior to the midterms..

Cause then it would have hung focus on the republicans who had complete control of the house, senate, and Supreme Court and the most they did for blacks is pay 20 million more to HBCU then Obama did. They did nothing else... yet somehow now is the time create a division amongst black people...



I’d had no issue if they left it at redistribution of wealth and reparations.... but you can not ignore the bare fact that the first thing on the Agenda is to change the census to separate ADOS to black immigrants and then to have affirmative action programs to only ADOS..

How the hell would that even work? Also it’s fucked up....

 

[Big Tex]

Exactly. So why was there all the 'sky is falling' politics with Trump? When it's the other side, the president is basically a king. He's bigger than life. He's hitler. He has the power to ruin the fucking world. When it's our turn for shit, there's a system and the president is just a piece. The position is basically downplayed.

Also, black voters been getting played on the local level for decades. Cleveland been run by democrats for 30 years. Police brutality been rampant and the black community has been played at every fucking turn. Other cities are much the same. The bottom line is black voters been getting played at ALL LEVELS. Police unions have more local power over the politicians in black cities than black people. And those are BLACK democrats selling their constituents down the river.

But hey, voters been allowing this fuckery to continue for decades. Maybe ADOS should focus on the local level first and start taking cities where black people live. Cities nationwide need a cleansing.

Every President has the power to ruin the world because his power is largely over foreign affairs and not domestic.

 

[fonzerrillii]

Bullshit nigga! The "official" end of importation of African slaves to the U.S. was 1808. The overwhelmingly majority of Black American ancestry predates that date. You're probably talking 10% or less black people in America for whom lineage would be an issue.

Fam again,..

How are you going to prove lineage?

Are you asking everyone that looks black “did you come from a ship?”

Then how do you even define ADOs... you have your interpretation, but how would the government interpret it. The logical way would be to say those whose family could be traced to slavery without any impunity... but then what if one side of the family never was free and the other never was a slave.

What if you family immigrated here right after slavery and then mixed...with out blacks..

So you are going to have to ask people to pull out family trees to the US government.... in order to seek reparations??

I don’t understand how there are members that don’t see the problems with this?

Why not just talk about redistribution of wealth or highlight the need for African American programs?

Why specifically go to the level of separation amongst blacks? Cause that’s kind of what they are saying...

 

[fonzerrillii]

I don’t know much about this Yvette woman but Is it true that she is an out lesbian? Cause if so that is a fascinating discussion


Also on the real.... this really does remind me of the flat earth discussion. All the same beats are here.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Democrats are alienating their most loyal base from the party. How are they gonna convince ADOS to suppport immigration now? How do you convince ADOS to get up for any of your candidates after attacking them directly? Please continue to discount peoples ancestors and lineage for the sake of politics. The Democratic Party peaked with ADOS in 2008. They will never ever get that kind of support ever again. The party is on the decline and must rely on the trans community and non ADOS dreamers to beat Trump. Good luck.

 

[Drayonis]

Funny thing is?

I actually hear some black folk ENVY Trump supporters.

They actually believe the way Trump has attempted to create policy is how Obama SHOULD have acted.

They are delusional bruh. They don't understand that because of him being in a unique situation and being black, that he'd of been impeached as soon as he acted like Trump. Trump gets away with his actions BECAUSE of one thing, white supremacy.

His actions are the ultimate expression of that reality. For Obama they'd of been NO two terms, let alone finishing one.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Democrats are alienating their most loyal base from the party. How are they gonna convince ADOS to suppport immigration now? How do you convince ADOS to get up for any of your candidates after attacking them directly? Please continue to discount peoples ancestors and lineage for the sake of politics. The Democratic Party peaked with ADOS in 2008. They will never ever get that kind of support ever again. The party is on the decline and must rely on the trans community and non ADOS dreamers to beat Trump. Good luck.

It's amazing,how some of us could question a movement that's specifically for us...Time and time again,the Democrats pander us to get our votes yet wont do shit for us....

Folks want to bring up,why ADOS isnt attacking the Republican Party yet know that that racist party wont do anything for black people.

We're the #1 voting block for the Democratic Party yet we don't get shit....Then folks want bring up shit like My Brother's Keeper and Obama Care to make their argument. Both are great for black people but wasn't specifically for us.

You had Obama give reparations for Jews and two executive orders for Hispanics and gays(later rescinded by Orange)but gave every excuse why black people wont get reparations....

I don't understand, why folks throw a fit when someone criticizes the Democratic Party. Are we not suppose to question politicians, who doesn't do their fucking job.How can we progress as a community when we just let one party pander to us for decades but we don't get shit of of it.

The Democrats are suppose to do stuff for us since we vote for them yet folks want to vote for them because the they're the lesser of two evils.

How about holding the Democratic Party accountable for once. I got a better idea, how dropping both parties and start one specifically for us since both parties ain't about shit but that wont happen. Folks rather let the Democrats take advantage of their vote than start a new party.