The Nice Nigga Theory

this thread reminds me of those teen movies with the nerdy nice guy who for some reason thinks he is special and thinks he deserves the hottest girl in school. The guys with the good personalities and that can hold a conversation get all the pussy, but I guess if the chic chooses to fuck someone else the elitist nice guys automatically think the girl will regret her decision because they were the better choice.
 
If more men learned to delay gratification and realized that they have the power of relationship, I think that would stop the amount of cats going to the end of the earth for some pussy.

Women = Power of pussy

Men = Power of relationship

Even the sluttiest ho wants to be wifed up by some nigga....Its a shame so many cats dont see the picture
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Now this is some powerful insight because both sides chase different things. This is definitely the bigger picture. That wifey ring is like "The Ring Of Power" that these chicks dream about their whole lives and the dude is pretty much "The Lord Of The Ring".

Yup,

I like to talk shit with the rest of the fellas in these threads. But as a man when you REALIZE that you hold the POWER...you won't be able to stand dealing with common simple minded women.

I guess I'm a NICE GUY, definetly not a THUG or wanna be mack/playa. I'm just not a "soft" guy. There is a difference. I'm educated, good job,in good physical shape, no kids, good credit, own a home. I did not do these things for the sole purpose of attracting women. I did it for me. Yet consequently, women are looking for what I have to offer. I dont' even really go out of my way to holla at chicks per se. I ONLY deal with women that can appreciate a brother like myself........and don't worry about the other chickenheads.

At the end of the day. Men have the power.

A women chooses what man she will allow to fuck her.

A man chooses which woman is worthy enough to be his wife.
who has more real power? think about.
 
this thread reminds me of those teen movies with the nerdy nice guy who for some reason thinks he is special and thinks he deserves the hottest girl in school. The guys with the good personalities and that can hold a conversation get all the pussy, but I guess if the chic chooses to fuck someone else the elitist nice guys automatically think the girl will regret her decision because they were the better choice.

Another good point... Ive told a few homegirls that you arent a good anything until someone else places that label on you... The same shit applies to us too.
 
I'm a busy guy ... I don't have time to 'lead' another adult ... desire is worried about issues that you find in lower class situations ... which is why when brothers get money they are less attractive to black women and other women become more compatible ...

Look, if you are making even DECENT PAPER you and your lady don't worry about getting mugged, getting disrespected when you go out, or bad service at a restaurant ... that would be like worrying about getting hit by lighting ....

People with paper worry about:

Keeping their house ... protecting their net worth ... and making sure the future is secure ... an upper class more sophisticated woman wants a man that she feels is going to make THAT happen no matter what ... he will protect their lifestyle at almost any cost ... PYTs on the other hand are looking for someone to protect their physical bodies, and thugs are good for that

No disrespect to desire but I hope she can see the difference

Good shit here.
 
this thread reminds me of those teen movies with the nerdy nice guy who for some reason thinks he is special and thinks he deserves the hottest girl in school. The guys with the good personalities and that can hold a conversation get all the pussy, but I guess if the chic chooses to fuck someone else the elitist nice guys automatically think the girl will regret her decision because they were the better choice.

Can't speak for anyone else in this thread but my experiences that I spoke of come from my childhood in the neighborhood I grew up in. If you wasn't a drug dealer/thug in downtown Newport News,VA in the late 80's early 90's the bad chicks weren't checking for you. Had nothing to do with conversation. I didn't grow up in the suburbs.
 
Can't speak for anyone else in this thread but my experiences that I spoke of come from my childhood in the neighborhood I grew up in. If you wasn't a drug dealer/thug in downtown Newport News,VA in the late 80's early 90's the bad chicks weren't checking for you. Had nothing to do with conversation. I didn't grow up in the suburbs.

was no different growing up in Philly during the crack era. You're 16 years old, doing the right thing, but all the girls your age are fucking with 21 year old hustlers driving Acura Legends copping Reebok Classics. Shit sucked indeed. And a lot of them got pregnant by those dudes who of course, subsequently went to prison. Fast fwd 15 years, they're baby father is still in the feds doin a kingpin bid, and they're bitching like they can't find a good man. :lol:

With that said, I still don't take that out on every sista. Some dudes on this board paint all black women with the same brush, then get pissed when sistas do the same thing with regards to black men.
 
I'm a busy guy ... I don't have time to 'lead' another adult ... desire is worried about issues that you find in lower class situations ... which is why when brothers get money they are less attractive to black women and other women become more compatible ...

Look, if you are making even DECENT PAPER you and your lady don't worry about getting mugged, getting disrespected when you go out, or bad service at a restaurant ... that would be like worrying about getting hit by lighting ....

People with paper worry about:

Keeping their house ... protecting their net worth ... and making sure the future is secure ... an upper class more sophisticated woman wants a man that she feels is going to make THAT happen no matter what ... he will protect their lifestyle at almost any cost ... PYTs on the other hand are looking for someone to protect their physical bodies, and thugs are good for that

No disrespect to desire but I hope she can see the difference

Yup,

Been saying that for the longest. ALL WOMEN regardless of race are programmed to be attracted to the same qualities.

The difference is that black women still put more emphasis on PHYSICAL PROTECTION rather than PROVIDER for the family.

Black women too often choose to have the baby from the PROTECTOR rather than the PROVIDER. :(
 
That's an interesting point. The fact that you said that women would think that the man was weak is one of the reasons why the black family structure is becoming almost non-existent. If I was a woman, i'd think that a nigga that couldn't keep a steady source of income, couldn't stay out of jail, and couldn't control his dick was weak.

Guess thats why we aren't women because I believe we get tired of the games faster than a female will...I already got one criteria for my female...Must have a Job...Can't have no chick that has to much time on her hands
 
women are disctractions until you are where you want to be in life.

Simple answer: women date according to their self worth. Bitches who ain't shit couple with men who treat like shit.

if u think being an asshole is gonna get u women u are sadly mistaken:smh:

even if u think u found a woman who likes it....why would u want to invite that negative energy in your relationship or life for that matter


i love nice guys...but i dont want a push over

if i sense that if we get mugged u will run away or be unable to protect me im turned off

if i sense that if someone disrespects me while we are out it will be up to me to handle the situation im turned off

if i sense that if we get poor service at a resturant i will have to be the one to ensure we get what we paid for i will be turned off

i am assertive...i get what i want and get shit done...however i do not want to be the dominate one...i do not have a penis

its not about being "nice" its about being able to provide security...women just don't say it and express it correctly...and it doesnt help that many women do not have positive examples of what a man should be

Never else to add but co=sign.

One last thing: You'll lose money chasing women but you'll never lose women chasing money.
 
this thread reminds me of those teen movies with the nerdy nice guy who for some reason thinks he is special and thinks he deserves the hottest girl in school. The guys with the good personalities and that can hold a conversation get all the pussy, but I guess if the chic chooses to fuck someone else the elitist nice guys automatically think the girl will regret her decision because they were the better choice.

Most times thats what really happens !! :lol::lol:


When the gigs up at the end of the day...the nice dudes hold all the cards. Its just a matter of how bad women screwed before they finally get one to accept her + those screw-ups.

Just scroll through facebook and look at all the women that "want" a nice guy now....but those guys have moved on and gotten married. I think it gets worse in the 30s -40s.
 
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was no different growing up in philly during the crack era. You're 16 years old, doing the right thing, but all the girls your age are fucking with 21 year old hustlers driving acura legends copping reebok classics. Shit sucked indeed. And a lot of them got pregnant by those dudes who of course, subsequently went to prison. Fast fwd 15 years, they're baby father is still in the feds doin a kingpin bid, and they're bitching like they can't find a good man. :lol:

With that said, i still don't take that out on every sista. Some dudes on this board paint all black women with the same brush, then get pissed when sistas do the same thing with regards to black men.

c/s
 
I agree with the whole excitement thing but that whole feel protected shit is funny as hell. In 2010 the negro who can afford a good zip code keep you and the kids protected, not the 7' brotha in the hood.

That is true, but i think you're thinking along terms as a male in a mental way. Not in a primal way.
 
another thing to keep in mind, is that a lot of chicks, especially early 20s, will deal with dudes that claim to be 'nice', but either act like pricks, or dudes that pretend to be 'nice'...but they got hurt by chicks in the past, so they're carrying that bitter shit with them...

So now these chicks see dudes that claim they're nice...but they're bitter ass fuckers that do the same shit that the thug niggas do...so they just might mess with the thug niggas, cuz it's a known quantity..


Because truth be told, there are dudes that claim they are 'nice guys' but they are not, for whatever reason (simps, bitter, etc.) and what dudes need to do, is be yourself, work on yourself, and get your paper up. Chicks respect/dig money and the power, so that's what i'm working out to counteract my niceness (because i am inherently 'nice', i can't turn that shit off..i've tried)..

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c/s.
 
First off don t dumb yourself down for these stupid females......the truth is that the attributes it takes to be successful in the world are in direct opposition to what the MAJORITY of these females are looking for.......the reason......

Because the MAJORITY of women do not know what a real man is.....they think being an asshole is manly and being "nice" or calm mannered is not......

This is 2011......a man who has been successful can t go around fighting and being rude....he will lose everything that he worked for.......so he must be professional and even walk away from shit.....

Dude as a professional I can t get into fist fights with the local losers at the store or gym...I ll get a record and lose all that I have worked for.....

but does that make me weak? Hell no because I own a .45 and a concealed carry permit that if I can t walk away from a bunch of cats who are willing to test me....then at the end of the day me living is more important then even my career or success.....but i digress.....the sad reality is that the MAJORITY of these broads are still primitive in their thinking because society doesn t require anything from these females except to look pretty and fake it til they make it.......

So they never develop the intellect to see that an asshole and a "thug" will never make it in this world (esp a black man acting like this) so she will never accomplish success with this man.......HENCE WHY THE MAJORITY OF SISTAS and other race women ARE

living very f#cked up lives....some of them in their 50s crying cause they don t have anyone.....lol...
 
First off don t dumb yourself down for these stupid females......the truth is that the attributes it takes to be successful in the world are in direct opposition to what the MAJORITY of these females are looking for.......the reason......

Because the MAJORITY of women do not know what a real man is.....they think being an asshole is manly and being "nice" or calm mannered is not......

This is 2011......a man who has been successful can t go around fighting and being rude....he will lose everything that he worked for.......so he must be professional and even walk away from shit.....

Dude as a professional I can t get into fist fights with the local losers at the store or gym...I ll get a record and lose all that I have worked for.....

but does that make me weak? Hell no because I own a .45 and a concealed carry permit that if I can t walk away from a bunch of cats who are willing to test me....then at the end of the day me living is more important then even my career or success.....but i digress.....the sad reality is that the MAJORITY of these broads are still primitive in their thinking because society doesn t require anything from these females except to look pretty and fake it til they make it.......

So they never develop the intellect to see that an asshole and a "thug" will never make it in this world (esp a black man acting like this) so she will never accomplish success with this man.......HENCE WHY THE MAJORITY OF SISTAS and other race women ARE

living very f#cked up lives....some of them in their 50s crying cause they don t have anyone.....lol.
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co-sign.
 
Let them tell it men are intimidated by a woman with a job and a place to live. Always found this puzzling.

If every man a woman dated was intimidated by her, that means she needs to step her game up. There's a 100% chance she's dealing with bum niggas with lower expectations than her, so they can't possibly fathom what she wants out of life. I guarantee, if the same chick dealt with a man with the same accomplishments as her, or more, he wouldnt be intimidated by her. Alot of these women know this, so this is one of the reasons they aim low when choosing a mate, instead of looking for someone on their level.


A women chooses what man she will allow to fuck her.

A man chooses which woman is worthy enough to be his wife.
who has more real power? think about.

:yes::yes::yes:...Bingo. Reminds me of this debate I had with this broad. She tried to challenge me by saying "What if I dont want a relationship, and I just wanna fuck?..Who got the power then?" I told her she's still in the wrong, because the difference between a man and a woman is, a man can fuck 100 women with no emotional attachments. If a woman fucked 100 men, she would be emotionally attached to at least 1.
 
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If every man a woman dated was intimidated by her, that means she needs to step her game up. There's a 100% chance she's dealing with bum niggas with lower expectations than her, so they can't possibly fathom what she wants out of life. I guarantee, if the same chick dealt with a man with the same accomplishments as her, or more, he wouldnt be intimidated by her. Alot of these women know this, so this is one of the reasons they aim low when choosing a mate, instead of looking for someone on their level.



Out the mouths of a few...they like low tide niggaz because they can run the relationship and control them.
 
The problem with nice guys is there life focus is usually overly motivated by the chick there pursuing. Woman will dog a man who makes them top priority especially off looks. That means he can to easily be manipulated. Thats a serious weakness of character. What other niggaz do to make up for this is act thuggish or as a asshole, when all you had to do was stay focused on bigger goals and never make a broad top priority, especially off some ole look shit.

Ill pull a chick being myself and keep the ho if I please, cause that bitch will never modify top priority shit.
 
underneath the "nice guy" facade of alot of dudes is a certain hatred for women, that comes across as "if I act this way, I can get what I want from this woman." Women smell that shit buddy, these dudes also tend to turn into super playas when they get burned after trying that variety of nice guy shit.

The other form of "nice guy" is the guy who is taught from birth "how to treat a woman" by women in his life,ie to kiss her ass. These dudes dont change, they just end up getting scooped up by women early in their lives or later in their lives.
 
First off don t dumb yourself down for these stupid females......the truth is that the attributes it takes to be successful in the world are in direct opposition to what the MAJORITY of these females are looking for.......the reason......

Because the MAJORITY of women do not know what a real man is.....they think being an asshole is manly and being "nice" or calm mannered is not......

This is 2011......a man who has been successful can t go around fighting and being rude....he will lose everything that he worked for.......so he must be professional and even walk away from shit.....

Dude as a professional I can t get into fist fights with the local losers at the store or gym...I ll get a record and lose all that I have worked for.....

but does that make me weak? Hell no because I own a .45 and a concealed carry permit that if I can t walk away from a bunch of cats who are willing to test me....then at the end of the day me living is more important then even my career or success.....but i digress.....the sad reality is that the MAJORITY of these broads are still primitive in their thinking because society doesn t require anything from these females except to look pretty and fake it til they make it.......

So they never develop the intellect to see that an asshole and a "thug" will never make it in this world (esp a black man acting like this) so she will never accomplish success with this man.......HENCE WHY THE MAJORITY OF SISTAS and other race women ARE

living very f#cked up lives....some of them in their 50s crying cause they don t have anyone.....lol...

This is the most sensible post in this thread. A brother who is about something RUNS the other direction when he encounters a sister that thinks in this limited way.
 
First off don t dumb yourself down for these stupid females......the truth is that the attributes it takes to be successful in the world are in direct opposition to what the MAJORITY of these females are looking for.......the reason......

Because the MAJORITY of women do not know what a real man is.....they think being an asshole is manly and being "nice" or calm mannered is not......

This is 2011......a man who has been successful can t go around fighting and being rude....he will lose everything that he worked for.......so he must be professional and even walk away from shit.....

Dude as a professional I can t get into fist fights with the local losers at the store or gym...I ll get a record and lose all that I have worked for.....

but does that make me weak? Hell no because I own a .45 and a concealed carry permit that if I can t walk away from a bunch of cats who are willing to test me....then at the end of the day me living is more important then even my career or success.....but i digress.....the sad reality is that the MAJORITY of these broads are still primitive in their thinking because society doesn t require anything from these females except to look pretty and fake it til they make it.......

So they never develop the intellect to see that an asshole and a "thug" will never make it in this world (esp a black man acting like this) so she will never accomplish success with this man.......HENCE WHY THE MAJORITY OF SISTAS and other race women ARE

living very f#cked up lives....some of them in their 50s crying cause they don t have anyone.....lol...


U hit on some powerful points. U r coming from a perspective of putting the pressure on the chick to make wise and proper intelligent dating choices. I am coming strictly from the male perspective of what the man will accept and what he refuses to accept from a female.

It depends on what a male or female is looking for. Sex? One night stand? Long term relationship? Casual sex? Marriage?

If a thug is in a club filled with dimes in short skirts, high heels, big tits and booties and being bombarded by scores of dudes and he pulls a chick or two and smashes her that night he claims victory and looks victorious. For that night he is a king.

If a bad dime piece chick throwin booty up in the club (or on the street or in the hood or at her job) is approached by 50 thirsty dudes and simps all night up in the club, who does she choose out of all those dudes to take her home and smash that night?

If a thug or player has 5 or 10 chicks he smashin which one if any of them does he choose to wife up?

If a beautiful chick that has her physical, mental, intellectual and financial game tight and 50 dudes stay approaching her who does she choose to date? What are her standards and criteria? If she is a single black female hoping to get wifed up how does she pull that off?

Bottom line the dude just needs to have his game tight and have standards. If the chick in the club or at work or at the gym can't see that then keep steppin. Don't turn into a thug and don't chase behind these hoes like just another beggin thirsty simp in the simp line.
 
was no different growing up in Philly during the crack era. You're 16 years old, doing the right thing, but all the girls your age are fucking with 21 year old hustlers driving Acura Legends copping Reebok Classics. Shit sucked indeed.

:yes: :yes: :yes: They would talk to you all day, but if you wasn't flashing that green the convo wouldn't get you anywhere. :lol: Young suburban cats can't feel that.
 
As you get older, you realized that if a woman does not want you to hold doors for her or be nice, then she's an asshole.

I can be rude and mean with the best of em but that shit is not my default.

yeah exactly.....i mean i can get extra normal wit a chick if i want. think it depends on the chick. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, we are all goin to meet girls in different situations (bars, clubs, grocery store, gym, etc). I think depending on the girl is how I am going to behave initally. Some chicks may think I'm nice and quiet.....BUT I ALWAYS MAKE SURE I NEVER LET A CHICK MISTAKE MY KINDNESS FOR WEAKNESS. My brother always said, just cause i'm a tiger in the cage don't mean I don't have teeth. lol.
 
underneath the "nice guy" facade of alot of dudes is a certain hatred for women, that comes across as "if I act this way, I can get what I want from this woman." Women smell that shit buddy, these dudes also tend to turn into super playas when they get burned after trying that variety of nice guy shit.

The other form of "nice guy" is the guy who is taught from birth "how to treat a woman" by women in his life,ie to kiss her ass. These dudes dont change, they just end up getting scooped up by women early in their lives or later in their lives.

so your implying that ninjas must be a asshole or a dick just to get women?

and i disagree with the second part. i think u can still be nice and get women on your own term.
 
how do you treat your wife? ARE you the nice guy or a complete ass to her as well ... the point is this every body has their time to mature most females will do so on their own time
 
so your implying that ninjas must be a asshole or a dick just to get women?

and i disagree with the second part. i think u can still be nice and get women on your own term.
no, what Im saying is that not all nice guys are being honest with themselves just like these women are not being honest with themselves...I said nice guys get scooped up by smart women and they do, but not all women are smart like that and not all nice guys are truly good dudes...just like these bussas who want men to think they are still of high value,some dudes do shit just to get validated..
 
:hmm:It's funny how nobody talking about the mental side in this thread. For every action there is a reaction. Instead of talking about how fuck up a lot of these women are, why don't we get to the root of the problem by asking ourselves, how did this way of thinking start for a lot of these women, why do a high percentage of women think that "nice men" are too weak or not manly enougn, What need to change in order for women to stop chasing low life men and how can us men change for the better, in order for women to do better for themselves? Because lets not act like these women are the only ones with the problem, men also need to do some soul searching....
 
:hmm:It's funny how nobody talking about the mental side in this thread. For every action there is a reaction. Instead of talking about how fuck up a lot of these women are, why don't we get to the root of the problem by asking ourselves, how did this way of thinking start for a lot of these women, why do a high percentage of women think that "nice men" are too weak or not manly enougn, What need to change in order for women to stop chasing low life men and how can us men change for the better, in order for women to do better for themselves? Because lets not act like these women are the only ones with the problem, men also need to do some soul searching....

all this "nice guy vs thug" shit is how women quantify men. Alot of women quantify men based on who they would fuck vs who they would be seen socially and/or emotionally compatible with. Thats assuming she is not emotionally damaged,but for real we cant change these women out here, we can only change ourselves....the better question is why in the fuck are boys led to believe, or choose to believe that the women are controllers of how valuable they are as men....women choose but men accept, if a man aint accepting then the women bitch and moan on abc news..

I know some "nice guys" who are fucking bigoted jerks and some "thugs" who are softer than toilet paper. Aint shit to figure out about these women. Shit, focusing on the women is what they want b/c if we learn that we can change ourselves then their unfair and unrealistic criticisms fall by the wayside.
 
all this "nice guy vs thug" shit is how women quantify men. Alot of women quantify men based on who they would fuck vs who they would be seen socially and/or emotionally compatible with. Thats assuming she is not emotionally damaged,but for real we cant change these women out here, we can only change ourselves....the better question is why in the fuck are boys led to believe, or choose to believe that the women are controllers of how valuable they are as men....women choose but men accept, if a man aint accepting then the women bitch and moan on abc news..

I know some "nice guys" who are fucking bigoted jerks and some "thugs" who are softer than toilet paper. Aint shit to figure out about these women. Shit, focusing on the women is what they want b/c if we learn that we can change ourselves then their unfair and unrealistic criticisms fall by the wayside.

Brotha, these women are not getting pregnant by themselves.....but





I understand what you're saying and agree somewhat, but my questions still wasn't answer. How did this way of thinking start and how can we as men stop it from repeating in a cycle? Because if you don't have any solutions, doesn't that makes you a complainer?
 
Brotha, these women are not getting pregnant by themselves.....but





I understand what you're saying and agree somewhat, but my questions still wasn't answer. How did this way of thinking start and how can we as men stop it from repeating in a cycle? Because if you don't have any solutions, doesn't that makes you a complainer?

no colin


The solution with respect to how we as men think, we simply need to take stock of where we have been, where we want to go,etc,etc. Re study all of our cherished beliefs about the world (and ourselves) and get rid of shit that does not apply. We can make our contribution to stopping it by taking care of our own children (if we have any) and offering contrary perspectives to the bullshit that we see out here whenever we get the opportunity.

We can stop trying to identify with both the "good guy" and the "bad boy" template b/c at the end of the day those are ideas (no matter how true or false) espoused by others, and what type of man lives his life or judges his overall worth based solely on what others think? Not a dude I would tell my female fam to fuck with....we also know that not all "upstanding" dudes are cool and not all dudes on the street are trashy people...these women say one thing and do another, so alot aint a reliable source for information,those who are see the sun setting early and get in where they fit in.....that is,make themselves into a woman a man they want would like as a wife...

You already know we cant overtly change the women, they have made it a point to basically ignore us and what we think while assuming they have all the answers with respect to relationships, while going in circles getting the same results. Its all hubris and narcissism, on both sides.

The problem is not that these women choose "thugs", but that they complain about the consequences when they coochie dries up or gets as wide as a whales mouth and they want a husband but dont want to be a wife...

Its real simple,we need to stop looking for all encompassing "solutions" to the bullshit out here(ie waiting on a liberator) and "be a solution" based on our own strengths,weaknesses and ideas. That takes personal accountability,reflection,etc.

To me this aint about what the women like or say they like, but rather recovering, on an individual basis, our sense of self that is obviously lacking and it shows when we have to question our worth if some woman does not vibe with us...

the rejection reveals that...

shit many women have their own agenda so rejection is a blessing...a man can be "too nice" for one girl from a middle class background and "just right" for another chick from any and every other background, makes no difference...

the only constant is us men...the downfall of alot of "player types" and "nice guys" is how they judge their value based on how much sex they get....clever women know how to flip these niggas for profit...Ive seen it too many times...either extreme is a wrong template to follow b/c it is limiting,hence all the "woe is me" shit niggas be on or the bravado "Im the man" shit other niggas be on..
 
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