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The Nice Nigga Theory

streetdreamer said:
In 1 word... Honesty. A nice guy just simply cannot be honest with a woman.
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Yes he can. I'm a gentleman and pride myself on it but I will speak up if I don't like something, straight up. Cats are getting simps and nice guys mixed up which is why guys think they have to be thugs to get Women. Simps are not in demand because they are obsessive and refuse to do anything that could possibly cause any type of friction with a Woman (because that means no pussy). A nice guy on the other hand is NOT afraid to speak up and voice himself even if it means talking himself out the pussy because his respect comes first. An asshole doesn't really care at all and only has himself on his mind at all times, he is the reverse simp.
 
Deuterion said:
Yes he can. I'm a gentleman and pride myself on it but I will speak up if I don't like something, straight up. Cats are getting simps and nice guys mixed up which is why guys think they have to be thugs to get Women. Simps are not in demand because they are obsessive and refuse to do anything that could possibly cause any type of friction with a Woman (because that means no pussy). A nice guy on the other hand is NOT afraid to speak up and voice himself even if it means talking himself out the pussy because his respect comes first. An asshole doesn't really care at all and only has himself on his mind at all times, he is the reverse simp.
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Yep, you have to find that perfect balance. Sadly, most women have kids by the time that a lot of cats reach that level of understanding.
 
Deuterion said:
Yes he can. I'm a gentleman and pride myself on it but I will speak up if I don't like something, straight up. Cats are getting simps and nice guys mixed up which is why guys think they have to be thugs to get Women. Simps are not in demand because they are obsessive and refuse to do anything that could possibly cause any type of friction with a Woman (because that means no pussy). A nice guy on the other hand is NOT afraid to speak up and voice himself even if it means talking himself out the pussy because his respect comes first. An asshole doesn't really care at all and only has himself on his mind at all times, he is the reverse simp.
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The common thread with pimps, players, thugs and bad boys is that they are not wusses. They are seen as alpha male leaders. They tend to distort that leadership role by being overly aggressive or not caring what the woman thinks. They may beat her, degrade her or dominate her in some way but they will not be stepped on or chase behind the chick begging for some play.

Women like to be led by a strong male figure. If a nice guy can take the lead as a strong alpha male and demand respect or bounce then the chick can get behind that. He is no wuss because he has rules and standards and the chick has to play by his rules. He does not play by her rules but will treat her with respect if she deserves it.

He can do this without thuggin.
 
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biggboye5000 said:
Women like to be led by a strong male figure. If a nice guy can take the lead as a strong alpha male and demand respect or bounce then the chick can get behind that. He is no wuss because he has rules and standards and the chick has to play by his rules. He does not play by her rules but will treat her with respect if she deserves it.

He can do this without thuggin.
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:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:
 
chemist said:
Here is a good explanation.


Women, you can look at it like sports.

Women in their 30's still think they have the value of a number one draft pickwho is in their prime. When they were in their prime and got drafted they were selfish and held out because they were like I don't want to play on that team(average good guy)even though their skill set would have matched perfectly with this team(good guy). Instead they decided to force a trade and sign on draft day to play for the glamorous team(bad guy/playa)in which their skill set was a terrible match. They end up on a team with bad chemistry and complain why they are not winning(married). They end up getting traded to another team with the same results. Now when you look back at their 13 year career. She was a parade All American number one draft pick who never won anything(married) been traded to 8 different teams(Passed around by niggas) and injuries that hold her back(kids)While the second draft pick took the opportunity to play with the first team(good guy) and won multiple titles(married with a great husband/family) Now they are in their 30's and still trying to reupthat number one draft pickmoney. Teams(niggas) laugh at her silly ass offers..and offer her the vet minimum(Jump Off)
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:yes::yes:
 
another thing to keep in mind, is that a lot of chicks, especially early 20s, will deal with dudes that claim to be 'nice', but either act like pricks, or dudes that pretend to be 'nice'...but they got hurt by chicks in the past, so they're carrying that bitter shit with them...

so now these chicks see dudes that claim they're nice...but they're bitter ass fuckers that do the same shit that the thug niggas do...so they just might mess with the thug niggas, cuz it's a known quantity..


because truth be told, there are dudes that claim they are 'nice guys' but they are not, for whatever reason (simps, bitter, etc.) and what dudes need to do, is be yourself, work on yourself, and get your paper up. chicks respect/dig money and the power, so that's what i'm working out to counteract my niceness (because i am inherently 'nice', i can't turn that shit off..i've tried)..

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bootlegga said:
another thing to keep in mind, is that a lot of chicks, especially early 20s, will deal with dudes that claim to be 'nice', but either act like pricks, or dudes that pretend to be 'nice'...but they got hurt by chicks in the past, so they're carrying that bitter shit with them...

so now these chicks see dudes that claim they're nice...but they're bitter ass fuckers that do the same shit that the thug niggas do...so they just might mess with the thug niggas, cuz it's a known quantity..


because truth be told, there are dudes that claim they are 'nice guys' but they are not, for whatever reason (simps, bitter, etc.) and what dudes need to do, is be yourself, work on yourself, and get your paper up. chicks respect/dig money and the power, so that's what i'm working out to counteract my niceness (because i am inherently 'nice', i can't turn that shit off..i've tried)..

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*Cosign* I approve this post.
 
Another thing, those aren't women. WOMEN. Those a girls. Females. If you're 30 years old still running after some "thug". Well. I consider you still growing. Maturing.
 
Flawless said:
funny how u have all this insight on women yet u still not fucking. Like I said maybe the problem is u not the women
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dont know if u joking or being serious

but truth is the women are the problem if u think about it so treating a woman like she should be treated is boring....................I dont think me being ugly was a issue either because i had enough game to pull them if i was ugly i dont think i would have made it that far.

I know where i was fucking up at...my stupid ass was trying to treat all the ladies like they was my queens but you cant do that you gotta find a shorty who going appreciate you being the nice guy. So i thought that all girls just like thug niggaz but truth be told i was playing the game all wrong
 
From my experience, only "Some" women like to be treated like shit. If you dealing with any chick(not just black), that refuses to date a guy, because he is too nice, thats not someone you wanna be with in the first place. Usually, these are the women with low self-esteem and low expectations, so they get off on getting treated like shit. If you treat them like a queen, they will punish you for it. You can be nice, but stick to your guns, meaning dont agree with her if it means compromising your initial beliefs. Also, when you have sex, you cant be wack, you gotta fuck her no holds barred. Thats another difference between simps and assholes.

Boo_Slim said:
As you get older, you realized that if a woman does not want you to hold doors for her or be nice, then she's an asshole.

I can be rude and mean with the best of em but that shit is not my default.
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^^This..If a woman doesnt want a dude to do those nice things for her, then she truly is the fucked up one in the situation

UltimateLurker said:

i remember reading an interview with pepa denton(salt-n-pepa) she said something along the line of how she wishes she would have dated will smith years ago(he actually had a crush on her and asked her out). she dissed him of course("he was corny"/not "thug" enough for her :rolleyes: ) who's corny now
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She even went as far to say that was the biggest mistake of her life. She was too busy getting her ass beat by Treach, and dissed Will Smith.

biggboye5000 said:
I don't think it's restricted to a black or white hood/thug thing. Other cultures still promote marriage and 2 parent households although divorce rates are high in most cultures.

Simps come in every race. It's gender based and culturally based. The Woody Allen type dudes are in all races as are the James Bond type dudes that pull chicks. White college broads do the same thing. They want the bad boy rockers when they are younger. When they are ready to settle down they may settle for the Bill Gates types (and not about his money necessarily).
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True, its not just a modern day thing, where a black woman wants a "Thug". Even white chicks back in the day was on that James Dean shit. Most young people (not just females) rebel in some way. As long as she doesnt acquire any emotional baggage or kids from her experiences of dealing with the bad boys, then she isnt damaged goods. Also, if she is over 25 and still chasing thug niggas, thats your cue to back off and head for the hills

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I consider myself a good catch, if a person has issues with dealing with me, I'm going to presume they aren't my type and clearly don't want the finer things in life. I can't hold someone being ignorant as my own personal burden, I'm not Jesus.
 
chemist said:
Here is a good explanation.


Women, you can look at it like sports.

Women in their 30's still think they have the value of a number one draft pickwho is in their prime. When they were in their prime and got drafted they were selfish and held out because they were like I don't want to play on that team(average good guy)even though their skill set would have matched perfectly with this team(good guy). Instead they decided to force a trade and sign on draft day to play for the glamorous team(bad guy/playa)in which their skill set was a terrible match. They end up on a team with bad chemistry and complain why they are not winning(married). They end up getting traded to another team with the same results. Now when you look back at their 13 year career. She was a parade All American number one draft pick who never won anything(married) been traded to 8 different teams(Passed around by niggas) and injuries that hold her back(kids)While the second draft pick took the opportunity to play with the first team(good guy) and won multiple titles(married with a great husband/family) Now they are in their 30's and still trying to reupthat number one draft pickmoney. Teams(niggas) laugh at her silly ass offers..and offer her the vet minimum(Jump Off)
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Saved.:yes::yes:
 
Good info in here. BGOL men are good for honestly saying what they think ... even when they are trying to clown you get a kernel of truth hidden in there.

These days I now feel much better about being the "good guy" :yes: Didn't care much for how it got me treated when I was younger tho. Tried the "bad guy" role ... but it didn't come off as genuine.
 
info said:
no colin powell :furious::colin:

a dude should never change himself to get with some broad, if he identifies himself as a "nice guy" b/c that is how he expresses himself and who he chooses to be, then keep doing you and deal with women who like that...alot of women will agree with this,many will only b/c it does not implicate them in their choices and resulting consequences...


its not that men who change from being "nice guys" need to impress women, the men need to impress themselves and know who they really are and like some of those women who like you....changing yourself for yourself is your first priority, benefits are not guaranteed....some women are ruthless in that they use some men as safety nets after they get done fucking around and thats where the simp brainwashing comes in.....if she really cared she would school her son for real.....like many black mothers have their sons...

the female of any species is turned on by aggression, they also can be scared of aggression. The difference with some human females is that they can get with dudes hoping they can change him or whatever b/c the mans aggression turns her on .....she cant say the same for the dude who is aggressively in those books or goals in life....now some women just want to fuck around and thats cool, as long as they choose to deal with the consequences head on instead of blaming all black men or trying to incite some capt save a hoe ass nigga with her "their is no good black men" bullshit....then playing victim...


bottomline is this, I learned a long time ago not to be mad at women for their choices in men, but to hold them to the consequences....men get this treatment by default, ie "be a man" and the like....if you listen to the dialogue and bullshit that these women say and do not say, its all about her dealing with her choices and looking to blame a man,or get saved by one, aint got shit to do with the men, if it did she would ask them and would hope that they dont hold back......

but they dont ask, instead they buy books from dudes who tell em what they want to hear and ignore the dude without an agenda, ie regular niggas....smh.....


the more I respect myself and see myself for what I am, the more transparent alot of women become....aint shit to figure out but yourself....
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interesting

ganjababy said:
women love excitement and adventure they don't wanna fuck no boring squares
they want a man who they feel can protect them and their kids
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i know a bunch of pussy ass dudes who will run away from a fight yet they will fuck chicks left to right. now theres nothing about that which scream protector or provider if your running away from fights like a bitch and no where to be found.

and its the same dudes who look hard as hell or act cocky are sometimes the pussiest ninjas.

so your argument is flawed... because im a nice guy but it dont mean im not about my business and throwing down WHEN I HAVE TO. because majority of the dudes i scrapped with was always bigger than me.

smokes and mirrors.....smokes and mirrors.:smh:

bootlegga said:
another thing to keep in mind, is that a lot of chicks, especially early 20s, will deal with dudes that claim to be 'nice', but either act like pricks, or dudes that pretend to be 'nice'...but they got hurt by chicks in the past, so they're carrying that bitter shit with them...

so now these chicks see dudes that claim they're nice...but they're bitter ass fuckers that do the same shit that the thug niggas do...so they just might mess with the thug niggas, cuz it's a known quantity..


because truth be told, there are dudes that claim they are 'nice guys' but they are not, for whatever reason (simps, bitter, etc.) and what dudes need to do, is be yourself, work on yourself, and get your paper up. chicks respect/dig money and the power, so that's what i'm working out to counteract my niceness (because i am inherently 'nice', i can't turn that shit off..i've tried)..

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im in the same boat. im just a nice guy at heart its not something i try to be. had females tell me this too much:smh:
 
and another thing just beause your nice dont mean you deserve everything, i tell myself this all the times. it just gets to me when ur dealing with a female and she say she appreciates a nice man but in reality she dont by dealing with dudes who treat her like shit. major contradiction:smh:
 
freshnclean said:
From my experience, only "Some" women like to be treated like shit. If you dealing with any chick(not just black), that refuses to date a guy, because he is too nice, thats not someone you wanna be with in the first place. Usually, these are the women with low self-esteem and low expectations, so they get off on getting treated like shit. If you treat them like a queen, they will punish you for it. You can be nice, but stick to your guns, meaning dont agree with her if it means compromising your initial beliefs. Also, when you have sex, you cant be wack, you gotta fuck her no holds barred. Thats another difference between simps and assholes.
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Excellent Post....
 
chemist said:
Here is a good explanation.


Women, you can look at it like sports.

Women in their 30's still think they have the value of a number one draft pickwho is in their prime. When they were in their prime and got drafted they were selfish and held out because they were like I don't want to play on that team(average good guy)even though their skill set would have matched perfectly with this team(good guy). Instead they decided to force a trade and sign on draft day to play for the glamorous team(bad guy/playa)in which their skill set was a terrible match. They end up on a team with bad chemistry and complain why they are not winning(married). They end up getting traded to another team with the same results. Now when you look back at their 13 year career. She was a parade All American number one draft pick who never won anything(married) been traded to 8 different teams(Passed around by niggas) and injuries that hold her back(kids)While the second draft pick took the opportunity to play with the first team(good guy) and won multiple titles(married with a great husband/family) Now they are in their 30's and still trying to reupthat number one draft pickmoney. Teams(niggas) laugh at her silly ass offers..and offer her the vet minimum(Jump Off)
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That about sums it up.
 
info said:
it aint about what the women want or what the women say they want, its about why a dude should even feel like he has to change his habits in order to be acknowledged by some women in the first place...who convinced him he was not good enough to holla at some chick?? how can he rectify it???

women go through this shit when they are near 30 and want a husband, but no men want them.....
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as my grandfather would say EVERY HO HAVE THEM STICK AH BUSH
 
chemist said:
Here is a good explanation.


Women, you can look at it like sports.

Women in their 30's still think they have the value of a number one draft pickwho is in their prime. When they were in their prime and got drafted they were selfish and held out because they were like I don't want to play on that team(average good guy)even though their skill set would have matched perfectly with this team(good guy). Instead they decided to force a trade and sign on draft day to play for the glamorous team(bad guy/playa)in which their skill set was a terrible match. They end up on a team with bad chemistry and complain why they are not winning(married). They end up getting traded to another team with the same results. Now when you look back at their 13 year career. She was a parade All American number one draft pick who never won anything(married) been traded to 8 different teams(Passed around by niggas) and injuries that hold her back(kids)While the second draft pick took the opportunity to play with the first team(good guy) and won multiple titles(married with a great husband/family) Now they are in their 30's and still trying to reupthat number one draft pickmoney. Teams(niggas) laugh at her silly ass offers..and offer her the vet minimum(Jump Off)
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this shit is pretty good how you made the comparisons
 
Niggas are weak too for pussy on a large scale......

Since the beginning of time in America and its exploited in many ways.

By women and the system.

No race of men is willing to go as far for some pussy as niggas will. :smh:

Its a numbers thing.

It's a combination of instant gratification and self validation for many.

If one could just get easy pussy one might not even strive for shit else.

A weak nigga will feel like a loser if he aint getting pussy which stems
into all types of the bitch like, faggot behavior you see in members
such as __________ , _________ , & that bitch ass nigga _________.

Too many niggas weak for lust out here on a large scale has major effect.
 
Rick Ronson said:
Niggas are weak too for pussy on a large scale......

Since the beginning of time in America and its exploited in many ways.

By women and the system.

No race of men is willing to go as far for some pussy as niggas will. :smh:

Its a numbers thing.

It's a combination of instant gratification and self validation for many.

If one could just get easy pussy one might not even strive for shit else.

A weak nigga will feel like a loser if he aint getting pussy which stems
into all types of the bitch like, faggot behavior you see in members
such as __________ , _________ , & that bitch ass nigga _________.

Too many niggas weak for lust out here on a large scale has major effect.
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If more men learned to delay gratification and realized that they have the power of relationship, I think that would stop the amount of cats going to the end of the earth for some pussy.

Women = Power of pussy

Men = Power of relationship

Even the sluttiest ho wants to be wifed up by some nigga....Its a shame so many cats dont see the picture:smh:
 
Rick Ronson said:
Niggas are weak too for pussy on a large scale......Agreed

Since the beginning of time on in America and its exploited in many ways.

By women and the system.....It's a system created by men dear. So who's to blame for that?

who chases ass and will compromise self for the pussy on a major scale?

No race of men is willing to go as far for some pussy as niggas will. :smh:I so strongly disagree with this it's not even funny. White guys and asians will just blow your dang mind for the things they'll do.

Its a numbers thing.....niggas stay chasing hoes.

It's a combination of instant gratification and self validation for many.

If one could just get easy pussy one might not even strive for shit else.Very big proponent for the legalization of prostituion. Not saying it'll just fix this issue over night? But the availability would decrease alot of this nonsense guys go through today.

A weak nigga will feel like a loser if he aint getting pussy which stems
into all types of the bitch like, faggot behavior you see in members
such as __________ , _________ , & that bitch ass nigga _________.

Too many niggas have pussy as their primary focus out here.
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And end the thread with that. The best way to avoid all this nonsense about who's doing who and why is this woman with this other guy and not me. Is to not want it in the first place. Refix your focus as a MAN should. And concentrate on the INNER. You'd find out you're capable of moving mountains.
 
freshnclean said:
From my experience, only "Some" women like to be treated like shit. If you dealing with any chick(not just black), that refuses to date a guy, because he is too nice, thats not someone you wanna be with in the first place.
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Say it again. I am married now so I don't have to deal with that nonsense, but if a women refused to be with me in favor of a thug then I would consider her a fool and move on. No need to be bitter, no need for analysis. Hell, if you continue to go after women who choses only to go with thugs then maybe you are going after the wrong women. The type of women I dated while I was in college weren't hearing that thug shit.

Also, like someone said earlier, don't change yourself to cater to what you you think some women want.
 
freshnclean said:
If more men learned to delay gratification and realized that they have the power of relationship, I think that would stop the amount of cats going to the end of the earth for some pussy.

Women = Power of pussy

Men = Power of relationship

Even the sluttiest ho wants to be wifed up by some nigga....Its a shame so many cats dont see the picture:smh:
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Now this is some powerful insight because both sides chase different things. This is definitely the bigger picture. That wifey ring is like "The Ring Of Power" that these chicks dream about their whole lives and the dude is pretty much "The Lord Of The Ring".
 
tuckdog said:
I was raised solely by my mother, who I adored, and she taught me all about being respectful, loving, and caring towards other women.

At the same time, I began listening to my mother and her friends when they in the crib sippin E&J, and I would always hear them talking about how a nigga was too nice for them, and they wouldn't be calling them back.
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I could never understand shyt like that were women would teach there sons hey be nice treat women w/respect and care for them. Only to expect the exact opposite in their personal love lives. There was a recent post were the cat made a perfect point. The "To nice" reason. "That guy is too nice", but you don't go back to a restaurant because the service was "too good" or a car mechanic that didn't charge you for a simple task and you no longer take your car their. The shyt is a total mind fuck for a teenager
 
chemist said:
Here is a good explanation.


Women, you can look at it like sports.

Women in their 30's still think they have the value of a number one draft pickwho is in their prime. When they were in their prime and got drafted they were selfish and held out because they were like I don't want to play on that team(average good guy)even though their skill set would have matched perfectly with this team(good guy). Instead they decided to force a trade and sign on draft day to play for the glamorous team(bad guy/playa)in which their skill set was a terrible match. They end up on a team with bad chemistry and complain why they are not winning(married). They end up getting traded to another team with the same results. Now when you look back at their 13 year career. She was a parade All American number one draft pick who never won anything(married) been traded to 8 different teams(Passed around by niggas) and injuries that hold her back(kids)While the second draft pick took the opportunity to play with the first team(good guy) and won multiple titles(married with a great husband/family) Now they are in their 30's and still trying to reupthat number one draft pickmoney. Teams(niggas) laugh at her silly ass offers..and offer her the vet minimum(Jump Off)
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:lol:
 

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