***Official 2010 FIFA World Cup Thread***
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If you knew anything about goal keeping, you would not say this nonsense. Anytime a goalie has cover from side to the other side of the goal, it means the defense in front of him has failed. A goal keeper should never have to do that .
60% of the time, a goalie has to go out and meet the offense, by doing this, he narrows the angle to the goal, and someone as big as Shaq may not have the reflexes and quickness at close range to bat down sudden changes in the strikers motion at such close range. Shaq would likely be killed because he lacks the most important part of goal keeping, which is good reflexes. A shot by a strikers starts in an instant and travels at 80 miles an hour; you have excellent reflexes to be a goalie. This the quality Dino Zoff, George Best, Thomas Nkono, and the great goalies had .. not size or side to side motion...
If athletes like Chris Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Andre Johnson, Percy Harvin,etc.... grew up and train year round playing soccer, I don't see why the U.S. wouldn't be top 3 in the world.
How so true. Maybe one day you guys may come to London to watch a Tottenham V Arsenal. You want to see passion in supporters faces around when these two teams play. I live in London and one thing is for sure, you won't see me wearing my Spurs top outside the emirates.
Not so sure what you meant about Celtic supporters celebrating Barca scoring against Chelsea. Celtic are from scotland. Any other team in London would give cause to celebrate, but not Celtic.
Celtic is basically an Irish (Founded by Catholic immigrant priest) club located in Scotland that identifies with any independence movement (which is why you see Palestinian and Catalan flags being flown by their supporters). I know your a Tottenham supporter, but Chelsea and Rangers have an alliance (politics, religion). Hence, Celtic fans support Barcelona especially when they are playing Chelsea. Are you in London? They played you guys in last year's Wembley Cup. Celtic supporters spent all of their time in trafalgar square singing about fucking the queen and trying to fight chelsea supporters...
Celtic supporters in trafalgar square singing about shagging the queen...
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Jamaicans are faster than Americans, take the sport more seriously, and are not top 3. It is a sport in which you try to control a round slippery ball with your feet which have no means to hold it. That is the easy part, then you have a coordinated plan of attack, with the 9 other people on the field, to pry open the defense of the other team and score. Chris Johnson may run fast, would he carry the ball with him... Do you think Chris Johnson is faster that Ramirez or Robinho... The US would not be number 3.. stop dreaming. This sport is difficulty and there are many schemes to use and counter...
Jamaicans are faster than Americans, take the sport more seriously, and are not top 3. It is a sport in which you try to control a round slippery ball with your feet which have no means to hold it. That is the easy part, then you have a coordinated plan of attack, with the 9 other people on the field, to pry open the defense of the other team and score. Chris Johnson may run fast, would he carry the ball with him... Do you think Chris Johnson is faster that Ramirez or Robinho... The US would not be number 3.. stop dreaming. This sport is difficulty and there are many schemes to use and counter...
If the U.S. was mostly dedicated to Soccer you don't think the sheer amount of resources we would put into soccer outnumber anything the Jamaican would invest?
I'm going to say again, I think we have the best athletes in the world and If soccer was the main sport where all the best athletes in the U.S. grew up and train year round, I don't see why we wouldn't be in the top 3.
It does not matter what you say; the evidence does not bare that you have the best athletes in the world. Win and dominate at something worldly, then come back and talk. Furthermore, the athletics at which you did well in the past, the sprints, do not necessarily fill the bill as far as the requirements of football go. In football, endurance is the number 1 requirement.
The truth hurts...
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They do not understand..Celtic is basically an Irish (Founded by Catholic immigrant priest) club located in Scotland that identifies with any independence movement (which is why you see Palestinian and Catalan flags being flown by their supporters). I know your a Tottenham supporter, but Chelsea and Rangers have an alliance (politics, religion). Hence, Celtic fans support Barcelona especially when they are playing Chelsea. Are you in London? They played you guys in last year's Wembley Cup. Celtic supporters spent all of their time in trafalgar square singing about fucking the queen and trying to fight chelsea supporters...
Celtic supporters in trafalgar square singing about shagging the queen...
The U.S. has the best athletes in the world. Can any one country boast athletes like Lebron James, Chris Johnson, Dwayne Wade, Kobe Bryant,etc.. the list goes on and on. My point here is if our best athletes grew up playing soccer year round and training like they do in their collective sports, I don't see why we wouldn't be top three. No other country has the collection of athletes like the U.S. does!!!!
It's like the rat that never learned his lesson. Shock on brethren.
http://www.zimbio.com/Olympic+Medal+Count/notes/3/All+Time+Olympic+Medal+Count
All-Time Olympic Medal Count
1. United States
Gold 897
Silver 693
Bronze 606
Total 2196
2. Soviet Union/Unified Team
Gold 440
Silver 357
Bronze 325
Total 1122
3. Great Britain
Gold 190
Silver 245
Bronze 242
Total 677
4. Germany
Gold 180
Silver 212
Bronze 226
Total 618
5. France
Gold 184
Silver 192
Bronze 224
Total 600
Once again, you're stupidity and bias has earned another foot in your mouth. There's more worldly countries out there on the list, but i'll leave it at 5. We have the best athletes.
Once again, i've PROVED my point, and you've done nothing but.... but... well nothing.
I await the, "the olympics is not a worldly sport" or whatever asinine rebuttal you're gonna conjure up...
Your move.
dont argue with this guy bout anything. he obviously has no clue on this subject matter. dude can tell us about africa but he knows nothing of america. we keep proving him wrong he keeps skating around the issue. he's so dumb he ends up proving your own point for you, as he has done for me already
George Best a goalie????? You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Furthermore on this comment, a back four of defenders cannot stop another team from shooting for a full 90 minutes. A defense failed??? The goalkeeper is the last line of defense.
Understand what ???
Celtic came down to play in the wembley cup.It was a pre season tournament. Their game against Chelsea was at a later date.
Lionel Messi - Argentina
Cristiano Ronaldo - Portugal
Didier Drogba - Ivory Coast
Wayne Rooney - England
Fernando Torres - Spain
Kaka - Brazil
Samuel Eto'o - Cameroon
Cristiano Ronaldo - Portugal
Didier Drogba - Ivory Coast
Wayne Rooney - England
Fernando Torres - Spain
Kaka - Brazil
Samuel Eto'o - Cameroon
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Iverson and Sanders can be as shifty as they want, but they are not trying to carry along a slippery round object with slippery leather shoes...The skill is not in how you move, but in how you make the ball move...You can go where ever you want, but if you do not have the ball, no one cares... Pele used to say 95% of his game was fitness, but that made a difference because he had superlative ball handling skills...He had the moves to take the ball where ever he went with him. Barry Sanders tucks the ball in his arm, and the rest is about movement; football is not like that, Sanders would need excellent dribbling skills like JJ Okocha or Ranaldinho and those are extremely extremely hard to develop. I will add that the Americans do not have a single person with anywhere near that skill because of the structured way they teach them football. To acquire those moves, you have to practise them everyday,; great dribblers like Kalusha Bwalya or Mayanga Mutwale were known to play with the ball all day long... and then, you have have quick wits about you...Finally, as rare as you might think the quickness of Iverson and Sanders is, it is not unique to America...
dont argue with this guy bout anything. he obviously has no clue on this subject matter. dude can tell us about africa but he knows nothing of america. we keep proving him wrong he keeps skating around the issue. he's so dumb he ends up proving your own point for you, as he has done for me already
In what sports, show jumping, platform diving and the multiplicity of those judgement sports where you do something and they give you a number? The Olympics start and end with the track and field events. You can add football, volleyball and basketball to the consideration... for our consideration. The American medal count is inflated by their dominance of swimming sport where they have a million ridiculous contests. If we Africans were as greedy, we could boost our medal count by demanding races at 600m, 700m, 900m, 1000 m, relays, 1000m, 1100m etc, inflate the number of available medals by mandating hurdles and relays at these distances. We would sweep all these competitions and Kenya, Ethiopia and Morocco would go home with 20 more gold medals each... if you included women's competetion, we would double the medal count, so gtfoh with that bullshit medal count. Some of these medals are in shooting rifles...There are a million sports out there which we cannot contest because we do not have the money, such as those bicycling and rowing contests....
In the end, we are talking about the world cup, and if Greg Louganis, or Mary Lou Retton, or those shrill voiced, gay looking brothers win Olympic medals in gymnastics, what has that got to do with being able to chest the ball, trap is with your knee, flick it between the legs of an oncoming defender, and deliver a bullet shot to top corner of a goal that is 25 yard away?
If Americans win the steeple chase, or outsprint the Jamaicans, come back and tell he how you have the best athletes...Do not start counting medals in show jumping and dressage as evidence that you are well suited for football.
The U.S. has the best athletes in the world. Can any one country boast athletes like Lebron James, Chris Johnson, Dwayne Wade, Kobe Bryant,etc.. the list goes on and on. My point here is if our best athletes grew up playing soccer year round and training like they do in their collective sports, I don't see why we wouldn't be top three. No other country has the collection of athletes like the U.S. does!!!!
These people are shining in a sport where only they play. If you have the best athletes in the world, prove it by posting a sport everyone else plays. Win the 1500m run, win a marathon, and win the Olympic sprints, show up in the football world cup or Olympics finals at any age level... do not pick an expensive sport, which requires equipment other people cannot afford, and playing surfaces that are too expensive for other countries to provide, as proof of your superiority... that is just bullshit. Furthermore, the US basketball team was beaten in the World Championship in the US, 2003, and then beaten by Greece, Puerto Rico and Italy before being chucked out of the 2004 Olympics... so please take that bullshit somewhere else..
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The World Cup brings a boom to the UK economy and probably others too.
Do you have a big HD TV? Will you get a replica shirt?
http://www.zshare.net/video/768337672f66ca0a/
Do you have a big HD TV? Will you get a replica shirt?
http://www.zshare.net/video/768337672f66ca0a/
the longer the teams stay in wc the more money they will make. but if they fuck around get send home fast a lot of people/businesses will be in debt
you already admitted that if our best athletes took part in it we would excel at it. this is out of your own mouth idiot.
how can this be if the europeans are supposedly better at us at basketball idiot?
there was a euro football league BUT NONE OF THE PLAYERS were good enough to come back here to the nfl. sorry
more than 1000 more medals than any other country in the world. DOMINANCE
you already admitted it out of your own mouth. you cannot dispute what you yourself has already said. now leave the topic alone please. you're an idiot trying to come across as intelligent. you know nothing of what you speak
isnt that something your ignorant ass would say? you already admitted it out of your own mouth fool
Are you that fucking dense. Of course they just couldnt start playing football at 15 years old and expect to be good players. We are talking about if these obviously exceptionally gifted athletes grew up only playing soccer instead of several other sports.
No one is saying it is that they could just switch sports and play football and be stars. Not one person in this thread is that naive. We all know that Messi, for instance, is not a great football player because of his speed or strength. We understand football. What we are saying is that imagine someone with those type of athletic abilities growing up only playing football and given the opportunity to develop and hone football skills from a very young age.
Robinho has great footwork. But he doesnt have the speed or quickness of a Barry Sanders. Robinho is not even as FAST as Eto....he may be quick..but not very fast.
If our greatest athletes were playing football all day as kids, instead of basketball and football, we would be competitive with anyone in the world.. as we are in damn near every other sports... the Olympics are proof of that.
Yes, there are sports where some nations are dominant... used to be the U.S. in track and field..now it is Jamaica.... Kenyans tend to dominate long-distance running, etc... but for the most part, the U.S. is always competitive... from basketball, wrestling, skiiing, skating, baseball, gymnastics, etc. etc.
And yes they are rare... I have watched sports all over the world and have rarely seen an athlete with the speed, quickness, strength, endurance, and agility of Barry Sanders. This dude is barely 5 foot 6 and could also dunk a basketball with ease. You are out of your gotdamn mind if you think that type of athlete is not rare.
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The basketball game in Europe is an obscure and unimportant sport on par with Rugby or Volleyball. Americans are reading too much into this shit and thinking basketball is exploding in the world when it is not. The problem with American sports is that they require too much technology. Basketball requires balls that have certain elastic properties and hard surfaces that are perfectly flat, backboard and rims at exactly 10 feet from the ground. You may take these things for granted in the rich USA, in most countries, they are impossibly expensive luxuries. Baseball requires bats, hard balls and special gloves...American football requires bodily armour and a good orthopedic hospital nearby... if not an emergency revival unit.. who in the world can afford that shit, except Canada?
Football on the other hand is easy. All you need is either old cloth or newspapers. Bunch these into a ball, take as string and bind this ball tightly and you have a usable ball. For the goal posts, you can have two shoes put a certain distance apart, and it is up to you to agree with a high ball went over the bar or passed through the imaginary goal posts.
Football on the other hand is easy. All you need is either old cloth or newspapers. Bunch these into a ball, take as string and bind this ball tightly and you have a usable ball. For the goal posts, you can have two shoes put a certain distance apart, and it is up to you to agree with a high ball went over the bar or passed through the imaginary goal posts.
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This shit has no relevance to anyone, as these people do not matter in football.
you already admitted that if our best athletes took part in it we would excel at it. this is out of your own mouth idiot.
how can this be if the europeans are supposedly better at us at basketball idiot?
there was a euro football league BUT NONE OF THE PLAYERS were good enough to come back here to the nfl. sorry
Basketball is played on a small court, and is not even played continuously. If they do not stop the game for a time out, they stop it for one of those phantom fouls that occur every 5 minutes. And then, when they become tired, they take them out of the game.
There football is even worse; the total time that the ball is actually in motion, may be as little as 12 minutes. The rest of the time is spent huddling or doing nothing that actually test the endurance of player. Furthermore, the players do not play the full game. The offense goes in only during the offensive sets, ditto the defense...
I real football, the bullshit of time outs does not exist. When the ball moves, you run.. If you get tired and have to be taken out, you are done for the game. All these people who run for one minute and then rest for another 5 on the bench would die if they were asked to run for 60 minutes, never mind 90 minutes...
more than 1000 more medals than any other country in the world. DOMINANCE
you already admitted it out of your own mouth. you cannot dispute what you yourself has already said. now leave the topic alone please. you're an idiot trying to come across as intelligent. you know nothing of what you speak
you already admitted it out of your own mouth fool
Dominance in what, Fencing? Dressage? The only skills that translate to football are running and endurance, neither of which American dominate. Do you wanna talk about those, or you want to count your dominance in synchronised swimming? If Americans think they can run a greater distance in 90 minutes than an African can, go ahead and state your case....
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I think it might matter to the U.S. fans. You know, the foreign fans who have bought the most World Cup tickets to South Africa.
you wanna keep skating around the issues and direct points just like an ignorant fool. i can call you this because of your posts so its not an assumption its a fact at this point.
you wanted dominance and not only did i show it but others showed actual facts of dominance. now in turn you want to discredit it as not counting cause you were proven wrong once again haha over 1000 more medals than the next country in the world in the WORLD olympics haha. i dont need to state a case. ive stated mine ive gotten backup from others ive come with facts and you've admitted in your posts that i was right. i quoted it the record is there. everytime you respond and not acknowledge the truth i am just going to quote the facts and your own words and there is nothing you can write or say i dont care if you write a million pages the fact will remain. you are wrong i am right.
Nzinga only knows his opinion. This is the ignorance he's full of bro.
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