1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pics)

[Spectrum]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Diabetes

The authors described a diet study conducted by James D. Anderson, M.D., of 50 patients - 25 with Type I diabetes and 25 with Type II diabetes, who were taking medication in the form of insulin injections to control their blood glucose concentrations. The authors reported that after these patients switched from the American-style diet recommended by the American Diabetes Association to a high-fiber, low-fat, plant-based diet, the patients with Type I diabetes were able to reduce their medication by an average of 40% within 3 weeks of changing their diet and 24 of the 25 patients with Type II diabetes were able to stop taking their medication within weeks of changing their diet.[22]

nd one Im taking very serious and if you cant directly answer a simple question,look over it and let someone else answer,like Bigirl anyone else who can answer.

If are serious about it. Read the books I have referenced. Watch the documentary I have posted. Do you want me to have my grandmother call you. You are making assumptions without the proper reference points. Then you reply with that bullshit response because I dont personally have diabetes. join a message board with raw food dietest who have succesfully resolved their diebetes and chop it up with them if you dont want to take my word for it.

Save the facetiousness with me.

 

[34real]

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The response was not bullshit. The response properly encapsulated the obvious myopic nature of your fallacious response.

That is like saying a physician or scientist who has never had cancer can not contribute anything to the debate.

It not only intellectual shallow. It is STUPID.
My grandmother has eleviated here diabetes by moving to a raw diet.[/QUOTE]
See what it takes to for one person to answer one simple question....grandma,I would ask more questions but Ill pass panties are in a bunch.

You question or say something that goes against what their saying,they feel like theyve been threaten,man-hood on the line(online at that).

Im done....I have nothing else to say,debate on people.My mouth is close(not really but Im done typing in this thread).Dont eat bad foods,do your OWN research and find out what works for you or just do this....you will be forced to get healthy drinking/slurping from a tube.

 

[water]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/vchemlib/mim/bristol/oleic_acid/oleic_text.htm


Sources of Unsaturated Fatty Acids

Unsaturated fatty acids are a good energy reserve, and are found in abundance in many meats. Pork, lamb and chicken fats all contain a higher proportion of unsaturated fats than beef and so feel softer to the touch.

Your article is playing games...............

Unsaturated fatty acids are found in abundance in many meats.

Ok.

Now what it doesn't say is that SATURATED FATS ARE ALSO FOUND IN ABUNDANCE IN MEAT...............




partially sponsored by the cattle association

 

[Amajorfucup]

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Hard to see whos the bigger knucklehead in here. alexw for being too small to admit he has a lot to learn or kaya eewwll and Les for continuing to entertain his bullshit.

 

[jwilliam85]

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Hard to see whos the bigger knucklehead in here. alexw for being too small to admit he has a lot to learn or kaya eewwll and Les for continuing to entertain his bullshit.

"People from afar can't tell who is who."

 

[Spectrum]

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See what it takes to for one person to answer one simple question....grandma,I would ask more questions but Ill pass panties are in a bunch.

You question or say something that goes against what their saying,they feel like theyve been threaten,man-hood on the line(online at that).

You have the wrong person. I get no personal satisfaction when someone agrees with me. I dont get disappointed when someone disagrees. Logic is not emotional.

The reality of the matter is that not only was it a loaded question, it was the wrong question.

Because it has no bearing on whether the DATA is true or false in terms of a raw food diet and its affect on a diabetes patient.

Even that fact that my family has people with diebetes is not relevant. It may you FEEL better that I have a personal connection to the affliction, but the reality of the matter is that logically, it has no bearing on the merit of the arguments that I have put forth.. or the data that I have sent you to. (the doc or the CHINA STUDY)

I am not important to the argument. The data is. You dont need to argue with the person who is the source of the data. You need to actually take a first look at the data in the first place.

You need to either read the book I references OR watch the documentary.

You could have already watched a substantial portion of the documentary at this point and determined if it was one done based on sound logic.

For the benefit of your own health, you should that that first. I wish you good luck with that and also much health.

The irony is that your response was the one based on emotion..not mine.

 

[Spectrum]

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Hard to see whos the bigger knucklehead in here. alexw for being too small to admit he has a lot to learn or kaya eewwll and Les for continuing to entertain his bullshit.

Man. I have learned over the years on BGOL to stay away from debates. I usually just take in the good info and leave it at that.. I got sucked in this time though

 

[jwilliam85]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

You have the wrong person. I get no personal satisfaction when someone agrees with me. I dont get disappointed when someone disagrees. Logic is not emotional.

The reality of the matter is that not only was it a loaded question, it was the wrong question.

Because it has no bearing on whether the DATA is true or false in terms of a raw food diet and its affect on a diabetes patient.

Even that fact that my family has people with diebetes is not relevant. It may you FEEL better that I have a personal connection to the affliction, but the reality of the matter is that logically, it has no bearing on the merit of the arguments that I have put forth.. or the data that I have sent you to. (the doc or the CHINA STUDY)

I am not important to the argument. The data is. You dont need to argue with the person who is the source of the data. You need to actually take a first look at the data in the first place.

You need to either read the book I references OR watch the documentary.

You could have already watched a substantial portion of the documentary at this point and determined if it was one done based on sound logic.

For the benefit of your own health, you should that that first. I wish you good luck with that and also much health.

The irony is that your response was the one based on emotion..not mine.

I could have swore two or three years ago you stated your were going to stop debating on the board. These dudes must have got under your skin cause you back to debating like a crackhead fresh out of rehab.

 

[Helico-pterFunk]

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Great thread and varying points of view, everyone. I'm enjoying the feedback and read. Props to all.

GOOD FUCKING THREAD

5 star thread!!!

 

[Spectrum]

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I could have swore two or three years ago you stated your were going to stop debating on the board. These dudes must have got under your skin cause you back to debating like a crackhead fresh out of rehab.

yeah. the last week I got sucked in.. but I am checking back into rehad on Monday

 

[phillyphilly]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

If you truly want to be healthy and lose weight

Eat nothing but meat and veggies....period

and you can eat it as much as you like

Do not eat breads, grains, FRUITS, corn, or potatoes aka carbs

and avoid anything, i mean anything with sugar

Then watch your your body transform

*if you really have to eat carbs, do that shit once or twice a week as you like*

Really?

 

[Drayonis]

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the fruit had more sugar then a lot of the things up there....

Yea but it's clean burning natural sugars, not processed sugar. Easier to burn through than candy or soft drinks.

 

[Joe Money]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

What about aspartame vs. sucralose (Splenda)?

 

[R3AL1]

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Really?

yep. Google "paleolithic diet".

 

[R3AL1]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

What is Aspartame made up of?

Aspartame is made up of 40% Aspartic Acid, 50% of Phenylalanine and 10% of Methanol/Wood Alcohol. All the three components of Aspartame are hazardous to human health.

Aspartic acid is an amino acid. Once it enters our body it acts as a neurotransmitter in the brain. It affects the transmission from neuron to neuron. If taken in large quantities Aspartic acid may result over excitement of neural cells and that can end up killing them. It causes problems like fatigue, nausea, abdominal pains, anxiety attacks, depression, sleep problems, vision problems, asthma/chest tightness, and headaches/migraines.

Phenylalanine is also an amino acid which is also found in the brain. Taking Aspartame with Carbohydrates leads to high levels of Phenylalanine. High levels of Phenylalanine can decrease seratonin levels. This can lead to emotional disorders like depression.

Methanol or Wood Poison is a deadly poison. Methanol is oxidized down into Formic Acid or Formaldehyde in the body. Formaldehyde is also known as a Carcinogen. It causes retinal damage in people. Methanol Poisoning leads to wide range of health problems from gastrointestinal disturbances, headaches, ear buzzing, dizziness, nausea, weakness, vertigo, chills, behavioral disturbances, memory lapses, numbness and shooting pains in the extremities, and neuritis to problems like blurring of vision, progressive contraction of visual fields misty vision, and blindness.

Aspartame is deadly for diabetics. It causes

* Causes convulsions.
* precipitation of clinical diabetes.
* poorer diabetic control in diabetics on insulin or oral drugs
* aggravation of diabetic complications such as retinopathy, cataracts, neuropathy and gastro paresis.

Why has FDA and ADA approved Aspartame?

 

[Les W]

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Hard to see whos the bigger knucklehead in here. alexw for being too small to admit he has a lot to learn or kaya eewwll and Les for continuing to entertain his bullshit.

"People from afar can't tell who is who."

Who says I am not also a fool?

 

[Complex]

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I know people who don't like the taste of water, and drink nothing but soda

 

[Les W]

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I know people who don't like the taste of water, and drink nothing but soda

That is actually sad but I had to

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Diabetes

The authors described a diet study conducted by James D. Anderson, M.D., of 50 patients - 25 with Type I diabetes and 25 with Type II diabetes, who were taking medication in the form of insulin injections to control their blood glucose concentrations. The authors reported that after these patients switched from the American-style diet recommended by the American Diabetes Association to a high-fiber, low-fat, plant-based diet, the patients with Type I diabetes were able to reduce their medication by an average of 40% within 3 weeks of changing their diet and 24 of the 25 patients with Type II diabetes were able to stop taking their medication within weeks of changing their diet.[22]

Wow I gotta pick this up. Anyone have the pdf or audio version?

Also, are there any other ebooks or websites about eating healthy that I can shoot to friends and fam. I'm looking for some basic info that would be easy for anyone (18 to 80) to understand and digest?

 

[CoTtOnMoUf]

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so, alexw never showed "proof" that his argument was valid?

 

[Spectrum]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Wow I gotta pick this up. Anyone have the pdf or audio version?

Also, are there any other ebooks or websites about eating healthy that I can shoot to friends and fam. I'm looking for some basic info that would be easy for anyone (18 to 80) to understand and digest?

Search in the thread by NinjaSpit about alternative health and weightlifting

There were a couple of really good health ebooks posted in there

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=410556

 

[Koach]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

If you truly want to be healthy and lose weight

Eat nothing but meat and veggies....period

and you can eat it as much as you like

Do not eat breads, grains, FRUITS, corn, or potatoes aka carbs

and avoid anything, i mean anything with sugar

Then watch your your body transform

*if you really have to eat carbs, do that shit once or twice a week as you like*

I hear you, but my fam is West Indian; I needs my peas & rice.

 

[swiftandsilent]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

You probably already knew how much sugar was in alot of our common foods and snacks but this puts shit in perspective.

Each cube is 1 teaspoon of sugar.




Fruits my people. Eat them.

OM THANKS

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Search in the thread by NinjaSpit about alternative health and weightlifting

There were a couple of really good health ebooks posted in there

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=410556

Thanks man. I was talking to a friend of mine about this last night. You know... we all have different views on religion, christianity and the black church here in the states but I personally think it would be really powerful if the church decided to make health/ diet one of the issues that it pushed to black folks.

Its the perfect platform to push diet/ healthy living. Currently the church is 65% - 70% black women and children. Women are usually the ones doing grocery shopping and preparing meals and kids usually stick with habits they develop early.

The 7th day adventists is the only christian sect I know of that really pushes health and diet as a part of their overall teachings and there are studies showing them to be one of the healthiest and longest living religious groups worldwide.

I dont see why the black church as a whole can't follow along those lines and save some peoples lives.

...and pastor can still push his BMW 760iL.

 

[malaki]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

What about aspartame vs. sucralose (Splenda)?

both poison. pick up some stevia.

 

[malaki]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

I hear you, but my fam is West Indian; I needs my peas & rice.

man one thing i always think about it taking some of that real good type west indian food that mixes african and indian food and making a healthy version of it. those flavors >>>>>>

 

[Spectrum]

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Thanks man. I was talking to a friend of mine about this last night. You know... we all have different views on religion, christianity and the black church here in the states but I personally think it would be really powerful if the church decided to make health/ diet one of the issues that it pushed to black folks.

Its the perfect platform to push diet/ healthy living. Currently the church is 65% - 70% black women and children. Women are usually the ones doing grocery shopping and preparing meals and kids usually stick with habits they develop early.

The 7th day adventists is the only christian sect I know of that really pushes health and diet as a part of their overall teachings and there are studies showing them to be one of the healthiest and longest living religious groups worldwide.

I dont see why the black church as a whole can't follow along those lines and save some peoples lives.

...and pastor can still push his BMW 760iL.

I agree man...100 percent.

 

[REDLINE]

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Great info in this thread. I don't drink soda's but I had one yesterday. A friend bright1 20 ounce soda that was free with her food. That one 20 ounce bottle of soda had 80 Grams of sugar! 80 GRAMS!!!

Gotta stay away from bad foods.

 

[oolong tea]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

If you truly want to be healthy and lose weight

Eat nothing but meat and veggies....period

and you can eat it as much as you like

Do not eat breads, grains, FRUITS, corn, or potatoes aka carbs

and avoid anything, i mean anything with sugar

Then watch your your body transform

*if you really have to eat carbs, do that shit once or twice a week as you like*

no Fruits!! Are you serious??? I drink the gourmet coffee but I left sodas alone. When do drink mostly water in your diet, you'll be surprised how repulsive sodas taste. I had a "mildly flavored" soda the other day (an old favorite) and it seems like I bit into a lemon!

 

[Cock Head Jones]

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no Fruits!! Are you serious??? I drink the gourmet coffee but I left sodas alone. When do drink mostly water in your diet, you'll be surprised how repulsive sodas taste. I had a "mildly flavored" soda the other day (an old favorite) and it seems like I bit into a lemon!

True.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

man one thing i always think about it taking some of that real good type west indian food that mixes african and indian food and making a healthy version of it. those flavors >>>>>>

Not a bad idea as long as you can keep the spices/ flavors.

West Indian or West African food is already way healthier than the average american diet.

 

[MASTERBAKER]

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GOOD POST

LINK TO MY POST IN HEALTH AND FITNESS

http://www.bgol.us/board/showthread.php?t=433949

 

[Cock Head Jones]

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GOOD POST

LINK TO MY POST IN HEALTH AND FITNESS

Masterbaker you cool and all but why do I wanna see this ugly broad eating corn starch? Am I missing something?

By the way do you own liveleak? Work for liveleak? They were showing vids from the site on a bunch of the news stations last night. It was those weird looking clouds showing up in europe.

 

[malaki]

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Not a bad idea as long as you can keep the spices/ flavors.

West Indian or West African food is already way healthier than the average american diet.

just about every other world diet is healthier than the SAD.

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

If you truly want to be healthy and lose weight

Eat nothing but meat and veggies....period

and you can eat it as much as you like

Do not eat breads, grains, FRUITS, corn, or potatoes aka carbs

and avoid anything, i mean anything with sugar

Then watch your your body transform

*if you really have to eat carbs, do that shit once or twice a week as you like*

dude, the same people who wrote that recommend that you eat carbs everyday which is pure bullshit

they even endorse the food pyramid which is complete bullshit too

beef has also has oleic acid which is great for the heart

its also lowers your cholesterol