1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pics)

Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Yall muthafuckas are making me late .. that is why i try to stay away from debates on here now..Im out..

Alexw..when I get back.. I am starting another thread about Barry Sanders vs. Emmit Smith..
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Yall muthafuckas are making me late .. that is why i try to stay away from debates on here now..Im out..

Alexw..when I get back.. I am starting another thread about Barry Sanders vs. Emmit Smith..


You on Brazil timing, relax American..............

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Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

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Oleic Acid Kills Breast Cancer Cells in Lab Study
Reprinted with permission from www.NutraIngredients-usa.com, January 10, 2005

Oleic acid, the chief fatty acid in olive oil, has been shown to dramatically cut the levels of a gene involved in the development of breast cancer.

The new lab research offers strong support for the protective effect of the Mediterranean diet –rich in olive oil and other plant foods containing the fatty acid - against cancer. The strongest evidence that monounsaturated fatty acids such as oleic acid may influence breast cancer risk comes from studies of southern European populations, which have considerably lower levels of the disease compared with northern counterparts.

But animal research on the effects of olive oil to date has thrown up inconsistent results, possibly because olive oil has been administered as a mixture of several fatty acids and other natural protections and not on its own.

In a new series of laboratory experiments on breast cancer cell lines, a US and Spanish team has found that oleic acid dramatically cuts the levels of an oncogene called Her-2/neu (also known as erb B-2). High levels of Her-2/neu occur in over a fifth of breast cancer patients and are associated with highly aggressive tumours that have a poor prognosis.

Writing in today’s issue of the Annals of Oncology, they say that oleic acid not only suppressed over-expression of the gene but other tests on the cell lines showed that it also boosted the effectiveness of trastuzumab (Herceptin), the monoclonal antibody treatment that targets the Her-2/neu gene and has helped to prolong the lives of many breast cancer patients.

Lead researcher Dr Javier Menendez, assistant professor at the Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine in Chicago and a research scientist with the Evanston Northwestern Healthcare Research Institute, said: "To our knowledge this is the first report that a dietary monounsaturated fatty acid previously suggested to be protective against breast cancer significantly down-regulates the expression of Her-2/neu, cutting it by up to 46 percent." "Her-2/neu is one of the most important oncogenes in breast cancer.”

The findings should not only help in understanding the molecular mechanisms by which individual dietary fatty acids regulate the behaviour of breast cancer cells but also suggest that dietary interventions based on oleic acid may delay or prevent Herceptin resistance in Her-2/neu-postive breast cancer patients, added Dr Menendez.

Dr Menendez and co-researchers Dr Ruth Lupu, director of the Evanston Northwestern Health Research Institute's Breast Cancer Translational Program and Dr Ramon Colomer, head of the Medical Oncology Division at Institut Catala d'Oncologia in Girona, Spain, are now looking to identify the ultimate molecular mechanism through which oleic acid supplementation inhibits the expression of Her-2/neu, as its blocking action appears to work in a different way from that of Herceptin.

They are also seeking funds for a study to see whether a high virgin olive oil diet will modulate the expression of the Her-2/neu oncogene in human breast tumours in animals and make the tumours less aggressive. In addition, they want to investigate whether oleic acid-rich diets have any effect on the anti-tumour activity of Herceptin.

Dr Menendez emphasised that it is important to be cautious about the implications of the study, as laboratory results did not always translate into clinical practice. However the findings did suggest that a higher level of oleic acid in breast tissue could provide an effective means of influencing the outcome of breast cancer in patients carrying high levels of the rogue gene.

"They may also help in designing future epidemiological studies and, eventually, dietary counselling to delay or prevent drug resistance developing in patients taking Herceptin," he said.
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Im not going to drag this out with what some other person has read and learned...take that to the high heavens.

Have you actually done the organic thing and cured yourself of type two diabetes?any bgoler.

Doc's,books,hear-say,good.Experienced,done it,beat it,even better than gold.
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

no you dont understand what rate of diabetes mean

just because one nation has a "higher rate" doesnt mean other countries are effected by this disease

i dont know where youre trying to go with this

hell even you dont know where youre trying to go with this

you are full of shit you know damn well what a higher rate means. it means out of X amount of people how many Y have diabetes. in the US alone, per my link:

New diagnoses of type 2 diabetes rose from 4.8 per 1,000 people from 1995 to 1997 to 9.1 per 1,000 people from 2005 to 2007. These new cases mirror the increase in obesity rates, and obesity is a leading cause of the blood sugar disease, officials said.

i'm outta here, can't argue with someone as dishonest as this.
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

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meat has more healthy nutrients than bad, plus veggies have anti carcinogens and antioxidents( thats why they should be consumed together).

now research it

now you show me where all of these people are sick because of meat consumption?

weve been eating meat since the beginning of time

and cancer has just become a major disease in the 100 years or so

come on bruh, do better

i

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This is not a reply that supports your claim. Try again. You gonna make me post a fail pick.

Let me help your out here.

Your claim is that you can overconsume on meat without a problem.

Now you should be able to do the following

Make your statement as to why you can consume as much meat as you like without health risks.

Discuss why the consumption of meat (of various types) does not contribute to harmful diseases and other ailments and thus the overconsumption of meat would not as well.

Provide evidence that illustrates that societies or individuals that have been studied over long periods of time have considerable better health than others. To give you help on this a type of study that would be used by someone making this type of argument (not yours but this type of argument) would be something like THE CHINA STUDY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study

Then to really make an argument. State the basic attributes of human health and compare of the overall attributes of the SAD diet, vegan, raw,etc. and the people that fit into those groups.

There are thousands of studies done on this so finding your evidence should be easy.
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Im not going to drag this out with what some other person has read and learned...take that to the high heavens.

Have you actually done the organic thing and cured yourself of type two diabetes?any bgoler.

Doc's,books,hear-say,good.Experienced,done it,beat it,even better than gold.

not diabetes but its cousin hypoglycemia
also parasites, hepatitis(non viral) and ovarian cysts(precursor of cancer)
all cured with food and food alone ;)

ps: food is also the best preventative medicine does not just have to be curative :)
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

This is not a reply that supports your claim. Try again. You gonna make me post a fail pick.

Let me help your out here.

Your claim is that you can overconsume on meat without a problem.

Now you should be able to do the following

Make your statement as to why you can consume as much meat as you like without health risks.

Discuss why the consumption of meat (of various types) does not contribute to harmful diseases and other ailments and thus the overconsumption of meat would not as well.

Provide evidence that illustrates that societies or individuals that have been studied over long periods of time have considerable better health than others. To give you help on this a type of study that would be used by someone making this type of argument (not yours but this type of argument) would be something like THE CHINA STUDY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study

Then to really make an argument. State the basic attributes of human health and compare of the overall attributes of the SAD diet, vegan, raw,etc. and the people that fit into those groups.

There are thousands of studies done on this so finding your evidence should be easy.

Dam didnt i just post two links bruh

and didnt you say in a few sentences or some shit like that
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Im not going to drag this out with what some other person has read and learned...take that to the high heavens.

Have you actually done the organic thing and cured yourself of type two diabetes?any bgoler.

Doc's,books,hear-say,good.Experienced,done it,beat it,even better than gold.

Have you ever debated anything about Iraq on this board or with someone personally. Have you ever stepped foot in Iraq. I have and Im not in the military. So does that mean that you are not qualified to even utter the word Iraq from your mouth.

Have you every been to outer space personally. So does that mean you cant utter anything about astronomy,etc.

I could go on and on.

That response is about as weak as it gets in terms of intellectual debate.
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

not diabetes but its cousin hypoglycemia
also parasites, hepatitis(non viral) and ovarian cysts(precursor of cancer)
all cured with food and food alone ;)

ps: food is also the best preventative medicine does not just have to be curative :)


:yes::yes::yes:
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Dam didnt i just post two links bruh

and didnt you say in a few sentences or some shit like that


Wasn't that link about olive oil

:confused::confused::confused:
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Dam didnt i just post two links bruh

You posted them while I was responded.

I am going to read them too when I get back. That is actually all I was asking for bruh.

If the arguments makes sense, then it makes sense. I could read something you posted to support your argument and actually agree. My principle issue is that you were making statements like YOU CAN CONSUME AS MUCH MEAT AS YOU CAN WITH NO HEALTH RISKS... RAW FOOD DIET IS RIDICULOUS, etc.. without actually attempting to provide any evidence or support for the claim.
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Homie like I said fall back and check your sources


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Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Homie like I said fall back and check your sources

whats the definition of partially?

you nigggas will try anything i see :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

C/S It helps your mental state too :yes:

When I was reading this on raw food sites (before actually trying the diet) I was like BULLSHIT... GTFOH... about his it effects mood, mental sharpness, etc... and then like 2 weeks in I was like well. Ill be damned..:yes::lol:
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

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Diabetes

The authors described a diet study conducted by James D. Anderson, M.D., of 50 patients - 25 with Type I diabetes and 25 with Type II diabetes, who were taking medication in the form of insulin injections to control their blood glucose concentrations. The authors reported that after these patients switched from the American-style diet recommended by the American Diabetes Association to a high-fiber, low-fat, plant-based diet, the patients with Type I diabetes were able to reduce their medication by an average of 40% within 3 weeks of changing their diet and 24 of the 25 patients with Type II diabetes were able to stop taking their medication within weeks of changing their diet.[22]
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

Have you ever debated anything about Iraq on this board or with someone personally. Have you ever stepped foot in Iraq. I have and Im not in the military. So does that mean that you are not qualified to even utter the word Iraq from your mouth.

Have you every been to outer space personally. So does that mean you cant utter anything about astronomy,etc.

I could go on and on.

That response is about as weak as it gets in terms of intellectual debate.

See I expected for you to say some shit like this,because most people who haven't experienced or done it themselves usually do.
You didn't even have to responce with this bullshit(side stepping),you could have simple said"No I haven't CURED myself of type 2 diabetes by doing this or know anyone who has" and I would of said "Oh Ok,any other bgolers,who have?".

It wasn't a debate it was a question...and one Im taking very serious and if you cant directly answer a simple question,look over it and let someone else answer,like Bigirl anyone else who can answer.
 
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Wasn't that link about olive oil

:confused::confused::confused:
http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/vchemlib/mim/bristol/oleic_acid/oleic_text.htm
Oleic Acid

Oleic Acid (also called cis-9-octadecenoic acid) is an example of a fatty acid found in animal and vegetable oils. It is a mono-unsaturated fatty acid, due to the presence of a single double bond. The physical properties of fatty acids like oleic acid are determined by the number, geometry, and position of the double bonds in the chain, along with the degree of unsaturation (i.e. number of double bonds). In naturally occurring fatty acids, such as those found in vegetable oils, the double bonds are all in the cis configuration (shown in red in the figure), making the molecules bent or curved. This also makes the molecules much less flexible than those of fully saturated fatty acids (e.g. stearic acid). Their bent shape also hinders crystallisation, and explains why these acids are oils at room temperature. (Saturated acids have straight chains and can pack easily into a crystal lattice, and so are solid at room temperature, e.g. butter).

Sources of Unsaturated Fatty Acids

Unsaturated fatty acids are a good energy reserve, and are found in abundance in many meats. Pork, lamb and chicken fats all contain a higher proportion of unsaturated fats than beef and so feel softer to the touch. Plant seeds, too, are a good source of these fats, where they act as a compact efficient food reserve. They can be found in plants as diverse as corn, cottonseed, soybean, rapeseed, safflower and sunflowers. Oleic acid itself is the main fatty acid in the olive oil pressed from the ripe fruit of the olive (olea europaea). It was also featured in the recent Hollywood film 'Lorenzo's Oil'. In a rare genetic illness called adrenoleukodystophy (ALD), young boys suffer from an excess of harmful long chain (C24-C26) fatty acids which causes the myelin around nerves cells to deteriorate, leading to brain damage. They progressively lose more of their faculties, speech, movement, etc., until they eventually die. It was discovered that ingestion of large quantities of pure oleic acid triglyceride (mixed with around 25% of the related C22 acid, erucic acid) prevented the build up of the harmful longer chained acids, relieved all the symptoms associated with the disease, and allowed the sufferers to lead a normal life. This works by essentially keeping the enzyme responsible for biosynthesis of the acids busy metabolising these harmless acids, and so they have no resources left to produce the harmful ones.

Meat - a good source of unsaturated fatty acids

Oleic acid is also present in the cocoa butter of chocolate as one component of a triglyceride. The other two components are often either stearic acid, or the closely related palmitic acid. This means that the triglyceride has a much more uniform structure than is normally found in most fats and oils - and this uniformity results in a sharper than normal melting point. This allows chocolate to remain stiff almost up to its melting point (34°C). When it does melt, the melting occurs suddenly and endothermically. If this occurs in the mouth it gives a feeling of coolness - perhaps one of the reasons for the lasting popularity of chocolate (along with its sweetness due to the added sugar).
 
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hey, scat! :angry:

handle your bidness.............


:lol:

Im out here man....seriously.. I was supposed to be out the door and I havent even gotten ready at all yet... damn you cats with these stimulating debates :lol::lol::lol:
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

See I expected for you to say some shit like this,because most people who haven't experienced or done it themselves usually do.
You didn't even have to responce with this bullshit(side stepping),you could have simple said"No I haven't CURED myself of type 2 diabetes by doing this or know anyone who has" and I would of said "Oh Ok,any other bgolers,who have?".

It wasn't a debate it was a question...and one Im taking very serious and if you cant directly answer a simple question,look over it and let someone else answer,like Bigirl anyone else who can answer.

The response was not bullshit. The response properly encapsulated the obvious myopic nature of your fallacious response.

That is like saying a physician or scientist who has never had cancer can not contribute anything to the debate.

It not only intellectual shallow. It is STUPID.
My grandmother has eleviated here diabetes by moving to a raw diet.

You didnt expect my response. Your reply was a trap that only works on people with no sense of logical constructs. It is very specific logical fallacy that is laughable to anyone with a philosophical background. FUCK OUTTA HERE with the clown music.
 
Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

WTF? Are you agreeing or not lol


I'm saying he fucked up......

Now he wants to debate the meaning of "partial"


Well it's from 1% to 99.99%


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Re: 1 of the main reasons why we suffer from diabetes and other health conditions (pi

whats the definition of partially?

you nigggas will try anything i see :lol::lol::lol::lol:



Partial = from 99.99% to 0.0001 %



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