CAMRON says he prefers to use the term Black American over African American because "Africans don't even f**k with us."

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Didn't read thread but...

If yall rocking with that dumb shit in the title I'm tired of y'all BGOL niggas/brethren lol... just book a ticket to South Africa (Capetown or JoBurg) Tanzania, Zanzibar. Ghana (Kumasi or Accra), Namibia, or maybe Congo DR, or take your black ass to Nairobi, Kenya among many others... those are only the places I can speak to personally.

Stop listening to these internet personalities and niggas that never went for themselves. I actually love Cam & Mase show, shit is hilarious lmao! But realistically, a lot of y'all don't know the kind of love you'll get in the motherland. Real talk. I ain't even finna go back and forth with y'all about it tbh. I don't give af if you believe me or not. Just go see for yourselves.

Y’all gotta stop falling for the click bait. What cam said was he been to Africa they fuck with us. But they don’t consider us real Africans. This thread title is click bait. And so are the comments in here. Because they know cam didn’t say they don’t f with us.

 

[DC_Dude]

 

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[geechiedan]

Y’all gotta stop falling for the click bait. What cam said was he been to Africa they fuck with us. But they don’t consider us real Africans. This thread title is click bait. And so are the comments in here. Because they know cam didn’t say they don’t f with us.

The issue I take with that is people using that as a reason to deny or refuse to acknowledge their heritage and lineage.

 

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[footloose]

The issue I take with that is people using that as a reason to deny or refuse to acknowledge their heritage and lineage.

It’s only genetic. We. Have nothing culturally from there. Especially the tribalism.

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Didn't read thread but...

If yall rocking with that dumb shit in the title I'm tired of y'all BGOL niggas/brethren lol... just book a ticket to South Africa (Capetown or JoBurg) Tanzania, Zanzibar. Ghana (Kumasi or Accra), Namibia, or maybe Congo DR, or take your black ass to Nairobi, Kenya among many others... those are only the places I can speak to personally.

Stop listening to these internet personalities and niggas that never went for themselves. I actually love Cam & Mase show, shit is hilarious lmao! But realistically, a lot of y'all don't know the kind of love you'll get in the motherland. Real talk. I ain't even finna go back and forth with y'all about it tbh. I don't give af if you believe me or not. Just go see for yourselves.

It ain't bout that. I've dated Habesha, Kenyan, Nigerian and have been treated well. We're specifically talking about the immigrants that come here talk shit bout FBA though the civil rights movement allowed here. Unappreciated tethering home country fleers

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

bcos they desperately need to believe the lie so they can try to convince themselves to believe it

You Belizean right...this you? Why do yall join his Twitter spaces though you hate us...clowns

 

[geechiedan]

It’s only genetic. We. Have nothing culturally from there. Especially the tribalism.

Thats ALL 2nd and especially 3rd gen children of immigrants. Fat tony narducci whose great grandma came over on the boat thru Ellis island is as Italian as you are right now...he doesn't speak Italian, never been to Italy..native Italians see him as an American and say that was disdain...and he has no interest in learning any of it.

According to everything y'all are saying genetically he's Italian but culturally hes not and therefore calling himself an Italian American is wrong.

 

[Megatron X]

It’s always been Black Americans calling for unity with all black people around the world. Now, that shit is coming to an end! It’s always been one sided. Now, black Americans are delineating from everybody. Imagine how these non FBA groups will do without Black Americans. They’ll get eaten alive by white supremacy.

 

[footloose]

Thats ALL 2nd and especially 3rd gen children of immigrants. Fat tony narducci whose great grandma came over on the boat thru Ellis island is as Italian as you are right now...he doesn't speak Italian, never been to Italy..native Italians see him as an American and say that was disdain...and he has no interest in learning any of it.

According to everything y'all are saying genetically he's Italian but culturally hes not and therefore calling himself an Italian American is wrong.

Same as Puerto Ricans. They call them nyuricans. But they do have family ties there still.
We don’t. My roots are in the south. For generations and land passed down thru generations.

 

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[geechiedan]

do you agree with this??

 

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do you agree with this??

If I were a believing man I would absolute with out an inch of doubt.

You do know that’s what Rastafarianism is about right.

 

[geechiedan]

If I were a believing man I would absolute with out an inch of doubt.

You do know that’s what Rastafarianism is about right.

okay...youd beleive it based on what??

 

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okay...youd beleive it based on what??

I would know it. Based on the scripture.
That’s if I was a believer

 

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Tell em again how black we are. So black we look purple. Say it again.

Did you pay her well?

She a laywer. Gets Black Americans out of Jail for a living. If she was American she would be a FPA. or Blue, or what do we call light skin niggas again? Yellow, Red? Or is this pattern of using a color to describe your color only stupid sometimes?

 

[mangobob79]

It ain't bout that. I've dated Habesha, Kenyan, Nigerian and have been treated well. We're specifically talking about the immigrants that come here talk shit bout FBA though the civil rights movement allowed here. Unappreciated tethering home country fleers

Y'all mock Africans on the continent ! y'all literally mock Africans on the continent using white supremacist "talking points" yay even call them "tethers" ! pls stop nobody believes u !
we know u never dated anyone from Africa bcos all the fba ados talking points u seem to want to push would be a joke to u,
its like White ppl who always try to hide their bs with that "have a best friend who's black" speech ! pls stop !
no one needs ur "brotherhood" or understanding , just delineate already ! idk what taking y'all so long !
and all these "fleeing" talk , if they are fleeing then what is America& its imperialistic businesses interest doing in their countries & on their continent? the American interests that create that modern lifestyle of amenities & conveniences that u use to mock Africans with.

 

[mangobob79]

You Belizean right...this you? Why do yall join his Twitter spaces though you hate us...clowns

when u join a hate cult & want to justify ur hatred & xenophobic anti-black anti-afrikan anti-immigrant rherotic bs u try to project that "others hate u" so u can justify ur bs , sorry y'all not that smart to pull it off especially after years of digital fingerprints & paper trails taking orders from a failed pimp & a light bright lesbian boardmember of a white nationalist front of PFIR for the John Tanton white nationalist aims

 

[geechiedan]

I would know it. Based on the scripture.
That’s if I was a believer

but thats the thing....being a hebrew or jew is more a matter of ancestry, culture and values than of religious observance.

According to halakha, to determine a person's Jewish status (Hebrew: yuhasin) one needs to consider the status of both parents. If both parents are Jewish, their child will also be considered Jewish, and the child takes the status of the father (e.g., as a kohen).

If one of the parents is not Jewish, the rule is that the child takes the status of the mother . The ruling is derived from various sources including Deuteronomy 7:1–5, Leviticus 24:10, Ezra 10:2–3.[20] Accordingly, if the mother is Jewish, so is her child, and if she is not Jewish, neither is her child considered Jewish.

In Orthodox Judaism the child of a non-Jewish mother can be considered Jewish only by a process of conversion to Judaism.

That video you posted has everything to do with a connection thru ancestry, culture and values and nothing much to do with belief. Hebrew Israelites, 5 Percenters and all of that is generally referring to Black Americans as ANCESTRALLY and ETHNICALLY connected to the religion rather than belief.

In fact the main claim is Black Americans are those things even if they dont know it. Those who claim those groups CAME TO AN AWARENESS of it. That theyve been those things all along....not a conversion.

Thats why I keep saying that if you determine that a person is NOT african because according to you:

It’s only genetic. We. Have nothing culturally from there.

Same as Puerto Ricans. They call them nyuricans. But they do have family ties there still.
We don’t. My roots are in the south.

then following the logic of your argument a person can't claim hebrew or jew for the same reasons as well. If Black Americans are NOT African then we aren't those other things either and those people are fooling themselves.

My contention is just as Jews determine that if you have a parent that's a Jew then you are too even if your don't practice it.... the same for your African ancestry...we are NOT that far removed from it than we cant say we have no connection whatsoever. Even your Nuyorican example illustrates my point. As an identity Nuyorican is essentially for Puerto Ricans what African American is for Black Americans....an amalgam and recognition that even tho we are assimilated Americans.. our roots are from someplace else.

 

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but thats the thing....being a hebrew or jew is more a matter of ancestry, culture and values than of religious observance.

According to halakha, to determine a person's Jewish status (Hebrew: yuhasin) one needs to consider the status of both parents. If both parents are Jewish, their child will also be considered Jewish, and the child takes the status of the father (e.g., as a kohen).

If one of the parents is not Jewish, the rule is that the child takes the status of the mother . The ruling is derived from various sources including Deuteronomy 7:1–5, Leviticus 24:10, Ezra 10:2–3.[20] Accordingly, if the mother is Jewish, so is her child, and if she is not Jewish, neither is her child considered Jewish.

In Orthodox Judaism the child of a non-Jewish mother can be considered Jewish only by a process of conversion to Judaism.

That video you posted has everything to do with a connection thru ancestry, culture and values and nothing much to do with belief. Hebrew Israelites, 5 Percenters and all of that is generally referring to Black Americans as ANCESTRALLY and ETHNICALLY connected to the religion rather than belief.

In fact the main claim is Black Americans are those things even if they dont know it. Those who claim those groups CAME TO AN AWARENESS of it. That theyve been those things all along....not a conversion.

Thats why I keep saying that if you determine that a person is NOT african because according to you:





then following the logic of your argument a person can't claim hebrew or jew for the same reasons as well. If Black Americans are NOT African then we aren't those other things either and those people are fooling themselves.

My contention is just as Jews determine that if you have a parent that's a Jew then you are too even if your don't practice it.... the same for your African ancestry...we are NOT that far removed from it than we cant say we have no connection whatsoever. Even your Nuyorican example illustrates my point. As an identity Nuyorican is essentially for Puerto Ricans what African American is for Black Americans....an amalgam and recognition that even tho we are assimilated Americans.. our roots are from someplace else.

Your wrong. It’s more of lineage. Bloodline. Nobody said anything about Judaism. Or Jew”ish” That’s a religion.

 

[geechiedan]

Your wrong. It’s more of lineage. Bloodline. Nobody said anything about Judaism. Or Jew”ish” That’s a religion.

I thought you werent a believing man?

and they stuff I posted is what various google searches say...any disagreements take it up with them...

BUT if you want to believe that lineage and bloodlines are real for that then its GOTTA be real for african american

 

[footloose]

I thought you werent a believing man?

and they stuff I posted is what various google searches say...any disagreements take it up with them...

BUT if you want to believe that lineage and bloodlines are real for that then its GOTTA be real for african american

No where did I say I am a believer.
I think you’re getting it confused. When I say believe I’m saying a believer in god. That concept comes from the Bible. And in the Bible according to it, an Israelite would be determined by bloodline. So if god is real which no one can prove nor disprove those people would be us.
But me I’m not a believer nor disbeliever cause no one can prove nor disprove that theory.
So the thing is if it’s true then we are those people if it’s not true then no one is them.

Which leads back to your actual question before you went off on a tangent.

 

[footloose]

I thought you werent a believing man?

and they stuff I posted is what various google searches say...any disagreements take it up with them...

BUT if you want to believe that lineage and bloodlines are real for that then its GOTTA be real for african american

What does google have to do with what the Bible says? General rule. If it ain’t in it, it ain’t of it.

When debating the Bible you cannot go outside the book. So says the book.

 

[geechiedan]

No where did I say I am a believer.
I think you’re getting it confused. When I say believe I’m saying a believer in god. That concept comes from the Bible. And in the Bible according to it, an Israelite would be determined by bloodline. So if god is real which no one can prove nor disprove those people would be us.
But me I’m not a believer nor disbeliever cause no one can prove nor disprove that theory.
So the thing is if it’s true then we are those people if it’s not true then no one is them.

Which leads back to your actual question before you went off on a tangent.

What does google have to do with what the Bible says? General rule. If it ain’t in it, it ain’t of it.

When debating the Bible you cannot go outside the book. So says the book.

I was joking about that..but the whole bloodline concept is exclusionary practice right... People can use that for anything and they do....for land, kingdoms, money etc..

but the bottom line is who black americans are at our core still traces back to west africa in a real way

 

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Africans taught to mess with everybody but black Americans.

 

[geechiedan]

Africans taught to mess with everybody but black Americans.

this is why I said

considering that Africans talk shit about each other what difference does it make really?? If there was real unity on that continent it wouldn't look like does today. Damn near every single country on that continent thats partnered with countries in the west or east are JUNIOR partners in their own deal...on their own land...for their own natural resources and minerals and you're concerned they don't think highly of African Americans??

Thats why its important to NOT factor in their OPINION of us in terms of how we identify with our african heritage and use it.

 

[footloose]

Damn this is deep
And I think someone in here tried to attribute black Americans inventions to proximity to white people. No wonder they’re like that

 

[geechiedan]

‘Now I Know Who I Am’: Giannis Antetokounmpo Makes An Epic First Trip Home To Nigeria In Moving Doc, ‘Ugo’​

While the world knows Antetokounmpo for his Greek nationality, popularly touted as the "Greek Freak," a nickname he's embraced, those closest to him call him "Ugo." It's the star's Nigerian name, as he's the son of parents Charles and Veronica Adetokunbo. They immigrated from Lagos to Athens, having to change their surname to Antetokounmpo in the process, and there, the star and three of his four brothers were born.

So this past summer, after missing out on the chance to visit Nigeria in 2020 due to the pandemic, Antetokounmpo and his mom, Vera, made the trek to his father's land. For his first trip to Lagos, the star was also accompanied by a film crew, including director Rick Famuyiwa, himself the son of Nigerian immigrants, to capture the experience for a new documentary done with WhatsApp, with whom Antetokounmpo has a partnership.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nb...9deb84933408ebf&ei=21&fullscreen=true#image=2
‘Now I Know Who I Am’: Giannis Antetokounmpo Makes An Epic First Trip Home To Nigeria In Moving Doc, ‘Ugo’© Provided by Essence
"It was really, really special, to be able to show the world that at the end of the day, while everybody knows me as Giannis Antetokounmpo, the 'Greek Freak,' etcetera, etcetera, understand that my parents came from Nigeria," he tells ESSENCE. "All of our story started in Nigeria."

Antetokounmpo spoke candidly with ESSENCE about Ugo, balancing his Greek and Nigerian identities, and what took him so long to make it back home.

ESSENCE: Why was it important for you to team up with WhatsApp do this documentary, especially as someone who's been in the public eye with such a focus on your nationality and being Greek?

Giannis Antetokounmpo: I think, first of all, it was a great experience to be able to go back home and being able to team up with WhatsApp to make that happen. To be able to go back home and experience that with my mom and with my friends and to be able to meet my family members for the first time ever was a great experience. I think it was something that the world will want to see.


I have to ask, have you ever, on your social media, seen the conversations that are had between your Nigerian fans, and then your Greek fans who are like, "He's Greek! No, he's Nigerian!" Have you run across those back and forths?

Yeah, I have. I try to stay away from social media, but nowadays, it's hard to do that. But yeah, you don't need to go to social media to see that. I interact with a lot of people when I play games and you see the Greek flag and sometimes you see the Nigerian flag.

I understand where I come from. I understand that I have the Greek education, the Greek culture in me. I was born in Greece and everything, but going back to Nigeria, it felt right. I don't know how to explain it. I was able to get caught up in the rhythm of the way that people operate there.I've seen the conversation. I try not to pay too much attention. But for all those people, you can be both.

MSN

 

[geechiedan]

 

[RUDY RAYYY MO]

Gates is a coon...try again

 

[geechiedan]

Gates is a coon...try again

?????

 

[Soul On Ice]

?????

Skip the truth Gates..

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

Gates is a coon...try again

Who is he married to?

 

[Non-StopJFK2TAB]

I think Cam was correct and I agree with him. As far as the "Africans dont fuck with us" part, I wont say its 100%, but it is true in most cases.

You wont be able to see it if you live in a small town with little to no African immigrants, but for those that live in areas where the Africans are en masse, such as myself, the divisions are very visible.

Ex: The Nigerians even have their own church in Newark, as well as the Haitians in other parts of NJ. if we were all one family, then where is the "Black Diaspora Church"?.....exactly my sentiment.

With that being said, the descendants of U.S. chattel slavery are a distinct group, no different than the Jamaicans of Jamaica or Afro-Brazilians of Brazil. It's not a crime for us to delineate and push for recognition of our own ethnic group. You dealing with a group of people that been in North America for 500 years, and some of them even have genetic ties to Native Americans. In addition, some of the slaves came from the Phillipines, Madagascar, East India, etc. None the less all of these ancestors amalgamated under the banner and identity of being "Black", so yes "Black American" is more fitting than "African American".

Everybody has their own church. Churches is one way we showcase our distance away from poor people. The louder the worship, the destitute the congregation. If the church is quiet, then you know you can get a couple stock tips and insider trading there.