WHY DOES #ADOS ALWAYS CITE RIGHTWING SOURCES FOR THEIR ARGUMENTS...?.(receipts galore!)

[mangobob79]

Hell no. I'm waiting for racist white people to award me tangibles or else

U win the internets for the day

 

[NightMare Paint]

There is no “diaspora”. Only denial. Which you apparently are still in.

The fuck does that even mean?

 

[mangobob79]

The fuck does that even mean?

why even bother with people who dont have passports or travel outside their state or hood or the country or have any relations with the diaspora beyond what they are fed on the internet by their overlords..?
watch,... they will respond with another intellectually dishonest trope about some random fictional misunderstood disagreement with someone and they will attempt to cast that as the singular reason to discard everything anyone has ever done or fought for , becos whatever was done wasnt perfected then it must not be happening or true

 

[Joe Money]

why even bother with people who dont have passports or travel outside their state or hood or the country or have any relations with the diaspora beyond what they are fed on the internet by their overlords..?
watch,... they will respond with another intellectually dishonest trope about some random fictional misunderstood disagreement with someone and they will attempt to cast that as the singular reason to discard everything anyone has ever done or fought for , becos whatever was done wasnt perfected then it must not be happening or true

Then why are professors writing books about this “random fictional misunderstood disagreement”?




“Yo, Africans denying niggas up in yellow cabs
Musty like funk, waving they arms, to Arabs”

 

[gene cisco]

Thought I was a Dembot...isn’t that what you have been calling me for the last 6 years? As with most of your posts you don’t know shit.

Why would you be emotional over Trump? You are fucking republican.

Oh yea, your a Democrat holding Democrats accountable by filling all of government with white republicans. Filling the courts with white lifetime judges. Turning the SC conservative for the next 30+ years. All part of the long term strategy to keep white males in power.

White males have held all the power for 50 years let’s give them another 50 years. Great strategy Gene Cisco(D). Shit is a joke.

You delusional Bush bitch. I never voted republican a day in my life. Can you say the same? Ol' supporting the housing crisis ass. Ol' war criminal supporting ass. Speaking of wars, how'd world war 3 work out for you? Week later and it's "Iran who?" Trump still ain't match your beloved Bush. You needed shit to jump off so bad so you could feel better. You're sick.

Fuck are you rambling about white republicans for when cities ran by black democrats are finessing black residents? When democrats -- black and white -- build the prison industrial complex.

Is the black caucus white males? The mayor of Cleveland? All the city council members in majority black cities nationwide? Why so much fail?

 

[Camille]

Camille, why don’t YOU step to the mic and discuss/debate these issues with me? You’ve already shown that you have more courage than most of the “men” on this board, especially these anti-ADOS clowns.

We will let our discussion be the be-all and end-all on this issue. At least between me and you.

Ha! You aren't going to gas me up. I'm a horrible debater. Aside from the ones who were cloaking a desire to blow up the system in a discussion about "tangibles", we don't really disagree on the issues, we disagree on how to solve them. You want to repeal and replace dems, I don't currently see a viable replacement. I want to hold the line for what progress we have made, you're willing to let someone come in and erase all that so we have to do double the work all over again.

IMO, y'all need to stop participating in the process as outsiders and take on the cloak of power we have as Americans. Another propaganda phrase WS uses is "real Americans". They can't really say we aren't American anymore, so they use the cute little phrases still meant to other us and paint us as unpatriotic. They are controlling the narrative.

Y'all think withdrawing from the process gets you what you want and I disagree. Things don't stay the same if we drop out of the process, we just lose our voice at the table. If you think our needs aren't being met when we are present, how does this work when we aren't influencing the process at all? I'm open to hearing about a better alternative, but no one is offering an alternative. I believe in pushing the candidates we have, or running our own. You don't. Dems aren't perfect, but currently the GOP is not an option and third party candidates only split the vote.

I've commented on most of this before.

Thank you!!!

It seems like a lot of folks don't know how things work. Voting, lobbying and contributions are the forms of political currency that politicians understand. Just like in regular life, you can't obtain anything or get a return unless you spend or invest said currency.

These folks don't want to vote or have anyone else vote, don't want to lobby anyone but democrats, half-assed at that, and don't want to contribute to candidates or form a superpac to put pressure on folks, yet expect magically get their agenda passed.

All the other groups they talk about getting "tangibles" have lobbyists that keep their issue in the face of elected officials, give money to people who support their agenda, and are very well organized to deliver or withhold votes to sway elections. They will vote for you or against you, but they rarely sit it out.

It wouldn't be so bad, but the tea party gave us the blue print. They sort of started out organically, but they weren't true grassroots, they were astroturfed. They had dark money being funneled to them via Americans for Prosperity and other groups buying them nice tour busses and allowing them to travel and keep discontent going.

When they realized the GOP was just using them to harness their energy to keep opposition to Obama in the headlines, and wasn't really trying to overturn roe vs wade, they showed the eff out. They had been legitimized by the GOP, who winked at their racism, saying they didn't agree with it but oh free speech. They started primarying establishment GOP with true believers, won the seats, and Congress had to kiss their asses for several years and there are still a few left causing problems to this day.

What they DIDN'T do, is sit out. If their candidate lost they still voted GOP because stopping Obama and the democrat agenda was still more important when it came down to a Republican and a dem.

Not showing up does nothing but reinforce the belief that black folks don't participate, aren't engaged, and can't be relied upon.

We have self described non voters suddenly going around here proclaiming they are going to not vote and encouraging others not to vote. It's like folks who proclaim they are boycotting Starbucks, or the most recent offender to black folks, when we don't patronize them in the first place. Your absence can't be noted if you've never shown up in the first place. You can't affect someone's bottom line or effect an outcome by non participation when you weren't participating to begin with.

I'm not against protest or third party voting, it can be very effective if used properly. I didn't advocate for it in 2016 because it was clear to me that Trump was a serious danger, and I don't advocate 3rd party voting now for the same reason. We don't just need our Presidential candidate to win, we need clear majorities in both houses for more than one year, or even one term, to roll back Trumps fuckery and move forward on a progressive agenda.

These are not normal times and it is far too important to get rid of Trump along with Stephen Miller, who is a clear threat to black folks and other PoC. However, I would have a lot more respect for ADOS if they were organizing folks to show up and write in the same name, something like "Reparations Candidate". Names that garner at least 1% of the vote are usually listed on tv by name. Seeing that you are showing up but spending your money elsewhere, gets attention and causes you to be courted to see how they can gain your business. Even picking a GOP or Dem candidate to support and then pulling support because they didn't do XYZ and causing them to lose next cycle will get attention and your vote courted.

All this "we aren't going to do anything but demand what we want" is nonsense. Other groups demand also but they exercise their power to make or break a candidate. Ados, or at least the ones acting as a mouth piece for the movement, aren't serious. All they are doing is sowing discontent and dividing black folks. They have no plan to actually achieve their goal. I've seen no effective strategy at all. Or at least they haven't been able to articulate one. All they seem to want to do is be seen running the Oppression Olympics, telling everyone how shitty black folks have been and still are being treated in comparison to everyone else. Even if we win that race, we still lose.

You aren't important enough to lie to. Your thoughts don't affect my reality. The next 50 years will be more of a decline if the GOP stays in charge. Own it, it's what you've been championing. Black folks are finally off the dem plantation and supporting Trump or not voting, dems will lose power and you can beat your chest and take credit for all of it. With the resurgence of the normalization of open white supremacists in high positions of power and flashing white power signs, it will probably be 50 years before dems get any power back.

Funny how some of y'all are smart enough to recognize what happens when a power vacuum is created in Syria so Turkey and Russia can step in when the US disengages, but can't see what would happen on a smaller scale should black folks do the same. Absence allows others to come in and take over, make the rules and set the agenda and by the time the mistake is realized bodies are piled up everywhere.

Right now the only thing that will save the country, once black folks disengage and give up power, are the kids who care about environmental issues and gun laws.

Racist white folks don't want us participating in the political system anyway, so it's a win-win. You get what you want, they get what they want. Congratulations. You've helped accomplish something.

Edit: while y'all wanting to sit out, this just happened:

American Latinos United launches super PAC in effort to defeat Donald Trump in 2020

The group is led by former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

abcnews.go.com

Things don't stay static. The power vacuum would be quickly filled.

 

[NightMare Paint]

why even bother with people who dont have passports or travel outside their state or hood or the country or have any relations with the diaspora beyond what they are fed on the internet by their overlords..?
watch,... they will respond with another intellectually dishonest trope about some random fictional misunderstood disagreement with someone and they will attempt to cast that as the singular reason to discard everything anyone has ever done or fought for , becos whatever was done wasnt perfected then it must not be happening or true

I hate when I actually try to find common ground with these dudes and they resort to that vague, fakedeep nonspeech. They are making this "movement" up as they go.

 

[mangobob79]

Then why are professors writing books about this “random fictional misunderstood disagreement”?




“Yo, Africans denying niggas up in yellow cabs
Musty like funk, waving they arms, to Arabs”

yes professors also wrote about the great bell curve , professors write about the hoax of climate change , the truth of black criminality, shall we go on ? and yeah videos like these and giannis shoes will deliver reparations

hundreds of freedom struggle , economic , political moves being made all over the cities, states, countries & worldwide with black folks working together for the common goal , many of which u wouldnt know becos u obviously arent engaged in anything pro-afrikan diaspora about pan-afrikanism but ur online anti-pan afrikan narrative and if i disagree with ur narrative then i must discard my own lived reality & experience to accept ur manufactured narrative from u & #ados that somehow ur video or 2 with online rightwing articles are the proof that there isnt familial solidarity and if i disagree then i must be anti-ados !

ok gotcha

 

[mangobob79]

I hate when I actually try to find common ground with these dudes and they resort to that vague, fakedeep nonspeech. They are making this "movement" up as they go.

of course cos, its not genuine , its not about finding the best viable solutions, its all about #ADOS & keeping yvete or tonetits or tyreek in position .kinda repubs and trumpublicans, its not about america its about keepin trump in play , its not about the people they claim to be fighting for.. no different than than rightwing who claim they love america and americans then turn around to make moves agains their own interests

 

[mangobob79]

IM GLAD FOLKS ARE WAKING UP TO THE GRIFT !

 

[sammyjax]

Man.

YouTube has really fucked a bunch of already not so bright ass niggas smooth the hell up.

Shit is wild.

 

[Walter Panov]

Man.

YouTube has really fucked a bunch of already not so bright ass niggas smooth the hell up.

Shit is wild.

YouTube did the exact same shit to the flat-earthers. The exact same shit.

 

[Joe Money]

It was never their intention to create a platform for progressive thoughts or actions. T
heir intent was to gaslight us to protracted divisions.
I dont play with PanAfrikanist ideals, we might not be perfect but my PanAfrikanist brethren have one thing in coming WE LOVE THE DIASPORA but they attacked PanAfrikanist as well, !! What was the purpose of that? ... okay u don't believe in our ideals, cool, big deal , leave us to our sincere delusions! But they chose to drag us into their murky filth for reasons I'll never truly understand other than to cast themselves as the sole source of all intellectual and cultural power on reparations n reparative justice

They attacked Dr Welsing

They attacked Dr Claude Anderson (after plagiarizing his work , even tho there are aspects of his theories I don't agree with, its clear his life & work is based upon his love for his people)

They attacked Marcus Garvey legacy

They routinely attacked Civil rights leaders dead or alive (,for not being perfect I guess)

They attacked Jared Ball (who they stole alot their ideas from x he was initially in the movements high positions till he noticed they started to take a sinister turn and he left afterwards)

They attacked PanAfrikanists and in turn , told their sheep to discard and throw away anything to do with afrika and ur love of it while clinging on to ur love of European Americans n merican Gov't

They routinely attack any person or org about DO FOR SELFISM ( insanity right?)
they attack any black person with money espousing a goal getter attitude ( the jay Morrison video is online if u wanna watch our Tonetits tone of voice was pissed becos jay dared to proffer some actual solutions )
Decadent veil ( black folks dont have money unless its money to buy her dingy tshirts and superchat her n organize conferences)
They want u cast aspersions n look suspiciously on any successful african American who might have a recent foreign black ancestor or spouse!! (More insanity !) They basically want u to walk around being suspicious of any black person in America until they can prove to be #ADOS on both sides of the family for atleast 100 years !! But not so for white people.

They attack school kids, foreign black athletes who give kids shoes.

They attacked countless elders n ancestors all just so they can prop up their frog queen as the sole thought leader on reparations n reparative justice (a novel idea nobody before them had ever thought about or worked on , hence their attempt to demonize any prior effort of the elders who brought HR40 forward to a hearing!)

They attacked Briana Newsome & YvetteNicoleBrown for saying they rightfuly doesnt identify as #ADOS and that people who want be #ADOS can be, but she doesnt want that label and nobody has a right to force them to be a part of a label she didnt agree to be in becos she was never consulted about it.

They never attack white people with same ferocious zeal or Republicans or Republican leaders , their current orange doofus who can actually CutTheCheck is spared!!

 

[KingTaharqa]

An ADOS political candidate. Thats funny the Dem shills said they dont exist.

Seeing these long time porn board vets embarass themselves and show how out of touch they are with Black America is sad.

 

[Joe Money]

We needed some online articles (some of which are drawn from rightwing websites ) to tell us black folks are doing bad ? What a novel idea ! Throw in some anti afrikan diaspora seasoning, gaslight some more. No one has the thoughts or answers but #ADOS ! nobody has ever thought about reparations before .....
U BORE ME !! THE JIG IS UP !!
U HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER ANGLE..

Then tell us YOUR solution and what you have been doing or an organization that is doing something to remedy these issues?

Tell me what real-world benefits will be accrued for Black America by blindly voting Dem this year?

 

[Joe Money]

yes professors also wrote about the great bell curve , professors write about the hoax of climate change , the truth of black criminality, shall we go on ? and yeah videos like these and giannis shoes will deliver reparations

So you’re saying this sister is a liar (or “lier” as you like to spell it)? And you’re comparing her work to the “Bell Curve” and other racist works?

 

[Joe Money]

Ha! You aren't going to gas me up. I'm a horrible debater. Aside from the ones who were cloaking a desire to blow up the system in a discussion about "tangibles", we don't really disagree on the issues, we disagree on how to solve them. You want to repeal and replace dems, I don't currently see a viable replacement. I want to hold the line for what progress we have made, you're willing to let someone come in and erase all that so we have to do double the work all over again.

IMO, y'all need to stop participating in the process as outsiders and take on the cloak of power we have as Americans. Another propaganda phrase WS uses is "real Americans". They can't really say we aren't American anymore, so they use the cute little phrases still meant to other us and paint us as unpatriotic. They are controlling the narrative.

Y'all think withdrawing from the process gets you what you want and I disagree. Things don't stay the same if we drop out of the process, we just lose our voice at the table. If you think our needs aren't being met when we are present, how does this work when we aren't influencing the process at all? I'm open to hearing about a better alternative, but no one is offering an alternative. I believe in pushing the candidates we have, or running our own. You don't. Dems aren't perfect, but currently the GOP is not an option and third party candidates only split the vote.

I've commented on most of this before.




Edit: while y'all wanting to sit out, this just happened:

American Latinos United launches super PAC in effort to defeat Donald Trump in 2020

The group is led by former Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

abcnews.go.com

Things don't stay static. The power vacuum would be quickly filled.

What you’re saying here simply isn’t true. Which is why we should have a DISCUSSION (not debate) on these issues.

 

[mangobob79]

Man.

YouTube has really fucked a bunch of already not so bright ass niggas smooth the hell up.

Shit is wild.

YouTube did the exact same shit to the flat-earthers. The exact same shit.

FLAT EARTHERS!! I forgot about dem neegz and TURTLE ISLAND people too, (theres also a reason #ADOS appeals to alot of TURTLE ISLANDERS !! U can guess why !)

 

[Joe Money]

FLAT EARTHERS!! I forgot about dem neegz and TURTLE ISLAND people too, (theres also a reason #ADOS appeals to alot of TURTLE ISLANDERS !! U can guess why !)

Not true at all. Those types rarely voice support for ADOS because they think black people In America are indigenous Moors or the real Native Americans or some other similar shit. Don’t believe me? Then ask @Mrfreddygoodbud , @mailboxpimp , or @roots69 . All three are on that bullshit on one level or another.

 

[sharkbait28]

Nativism seems to be going global. Simple answers to very complex issues is the order of the day. On balance it feels like dumb regressive bullshit that is very easily coopted by corporate interests and fascist minded power seekers. I don't think most folks (even the sincere brothers) who fall into this sort of nativist mindset understand how easily their legitimate grievances are coopted, monetized and ultimately absorbed into fascist policy making...but honestly I'm done arguing with y'all BGOL niggas in 2020.

Peace and prosperity to all y'all arguing ass brothers

Except the coons, y'all ain't never getting any love lol.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Not true at all. Those types rarely voice support for ADOS because they think black people In America are indigenous Moors or the real Native Americans or some other similar shit. Don’t believe me? Then ask @Mrfreddygoodbud , @mailboxpimp , or @roots69 . All three are on that bullshit on what level or another.

lol, so you are getting exposed for being the most dishonest debater ever...

dont get upset because nobody is falling for your word vomit..

you do anything to come out on top of a debate, none of those weak sauce tactics worked with me..

and apparently not working for you too well here.

your dishonest debatin ass is being exposed.

 

[Camille]

Not true at all. Those types rarely voice support for ADOS because they think black people In America are indigenous Moors or the real Native Americans or some other similar shit. Don’t believe me? Then ask @Mrfreddygoodbud , @mailboxpimp , or @roots69 . All three are on that bullshit on what level or another.

Snowball is one of the main ADOS supporters and he is convinced the majority of black folks were native born in the Americas and very few arrived by slave ship. Actually, IMO, he wants the system to collapse, but he thinks getting black folks not to vote is how that happens and he is using ADOS to that end.

Now, I haven't gotten an answer as to why black natives were enslaved and those "$5" Indians known as native Americans weren't. Or how they ended up on reservations and we didn't. Or why there are no stories passed down to support this. Or any archaeological evidence to support it. He's not simply saying there were black folks who came here before Europeans, that has been documented. He said this is our native land.

 

[Joe Money]

Snowball is one of the main ADOS supporters and he is convinced the majority of black folks were native born in the Americas and very few arrived by slave ship. Actually, IMO, he wants the system to collapse, but he thinks getting black folks not to vote is how that happens and he is using ADOS to that end.

Now, I haven't gotten an answer as to why black natives were enslaved and those "$5" Indians known as native Americans weren't. Or how they ended up on reservations and we didn't. Or why there are no stories passed down to support this. Or any archaeological evidence to support it. He's not simply saying there were black folks who came here before Europeans, that has been documented. He said this is our native land.

Who is snowball?

 

[Camille]

Who is snowball?

Xfactor

 

[Joe Money]

lol, so you are getting exposed for being the most dishonest debater ever...

dont get upset because nobody is falling for your word vomit..

you do anything to come out on top of a debate, none of those weak sauce tactics worked with me..

and apparently not working for you too well here.

your dishonest debatin ass is being exposed.

Correct me if I am wrong, but don’t you believe that black people are native to the Americas and don’t you also believe that black Americans specifically descended from North African Moors who were expelled from Europe during the Spanish Inquisition and few, if any, of us are descended from people taken as slaves from West and Central Africa? And you also believe that the ones taken from West and Central Africa as slaves were brought here as “buffalo soldiers” to fight the native indigenous blacks?

Just asking for clarity’s sake.

 

[Joe Money]

Xfactor

Oh okay. Yeah he is on that on one level or another.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Correct me if I am wrong, but don’t you believe that black people are native to the Americas and don’t you also believe that black Americans specifically descended from North African Moors who were expelled from Europe during the Spanish Inquisition and few, if any, of us are descended from people taken as slaves from West and Central Africa? And you also believe that the ones taken from West and Central Africa as slaves were brought here as “buffalo soldiers” to fight the native indigenous blacks?

Just asking for clarity’s sake.

bruh you aint ready for the truth, deal with this ass whippin you gettin right here..

you jumpin from ass whippin to ass whippin Im starting to think you like the pain..

lol

stay focused

 

[Joe Money]

bruh you aint ready for the truth, deal with this ass whippin you gettin right here..

you jumpin from ass whippin to ass whippin Im starting to think you like the pain..

lol

stay focused

So what I wrote above is not what you believe?

 

[mailboxpimp]

Not true at all. Those types rarely voice support for ADOS because they think black people In America are indigenous Moors or the real Native Americans or some other similar shit. Don’t believe me? Then ask @Mrfreddygoodbud , @mailboxpimp , or @roots69 . All three are on that bullshit on one level or another.

black has no standing @ law!
the correct name for the united states IS turtle island!
even tho Mrfreddygoodbud & I dnt always mesh.... he is correct & so is roots69!
fuck the rest of you smart dumb niggaahz!

 

[mailboxpimp]

bruh you aint ready for the truth, deal with this ass whippin you gettin right here..

you jumpin from ass whippin to ass whippin Im starting to think you like the pain..

lol

stay focused

not today!
not this year....
these niggaahz say shit to get us to educate them. they NEVER have ANY facts to support the shit they "know"... they ONLY know what they've been told & see others doing!

 

[HeathCliff]

Snowball is one of the main ADOS supporters and he is convinced the majority of black folks were native born in the Americas and very few arrived by slave ship. Actually, IMO, he wants the system to collapse, but he thinks getting black folks not to vote is how that happens and he is using ADOS to that end.

Is that why that weirdo keeps saying "so-called" this and "so-called" that all the damn time?

 

[Joe Money]

black has no standing @ law!
the correct name for the united states IS turtle island!
even tho Mrfreddygoodbud & I dnt always mesh.... he is correct & so is roots69!
fuck the rest of you smart dumb niggaahz!

@mangobob79 : See? For your confirmation - they reject ADOS on a deeper conceptual level.

 

[Watcher]

An ADOS political candidate. Thats funny the Dem shills said they dont exist.

Seeing these long time porn board vets embarass themselves and show how out of touch they are with Black America is sad.

What makeup of government does this ADOS candidate need to make reparations reality?

 

[Camille]

Is that why that weirdo keeps saying "so-called" this and "so-called" that all the damn time?

Yes. After I found out his non voting plan was designed to make the system collapse, I started calling him Snowball, KT Pinky and Forcesteeler the Brain. Snowball is just like Brain, he wants to take over the world, but is more malicious. Pinky is actually the smart one, which doesn't apply to KT, but since another member who saw his pic said he was one shade darker than Robin Thicke, I figured it would still work.

From the arguments they put forth, the BGOL Pinky crew is going to have about as much luck with their plans as Pinky and the Brain did with theirs.

Snowball

Snowball is a genetically altered hamster and the former friend of the Brain who was also the subject of gene splicing. He is voiced by Roddy McDowall. Snowball's tail is stubby and the same faded orange as his fur. He has jowls, pink eyes, and a large head similar to Brain's. His stomach...

pinkyandthebrain.fandom.com

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

So what I wrote above is not what you believe?

what you wrote above has nothing to do with this thread and just shows how you avoid issues when you get cornered.

the reason why as a people we dont own anything is because

"blacks" and "negros" never owned anything but Moors did and the trick was to turn us Moorish Americans into blacks and negros..so the euro christian invaders could justify thier genocide and theft.

but I repeat this, not for you hard headed agents, I repeat that for those seeking the truth.

You cant even admit your wrong.. how childish is that??