SNOWFALL FX discussion thread

Man hell nah. We not gonna act like the Wire didn’t start rushing a whole bunch of shit in season 5 that didn’t make sense. We also not gonna act like most people(not me) didn’t even fuck with season 2 like that.

I loved the character development but a lot of those dudes didn’t need it and took up unnecessary space. Snowfall is covering the same layers of the game. The streets.... how it actually gets in and what it controls and it covers the layers of where it comes from.

Agreed..brah
 
Mel is going to recoup from this, Frank killing Andre won’t be her demise I think it’s her awakening.

That would be a happy ending if that was to happen but she is going to have some tribulations to deal with her addiction before she even gets to that point.
 
He was compromised though. He could not balance his new racist cop buddy friends and the people he grew up with. Andre and Mel would have been better off if they moved a while ago. He dead and Mel will be a walking dead shell version of her self. She has no protection and no one to look out for her. She is basically a wounded antelope on the savanna and the lions, leopards, hyenas, and hunting dogs are salivating:smh:. Mel's story will most likely end very tragically. Would not be shocked if they even give her character the package on top of her being a crack head. The reason I'm bringing up the house in virginia angle is because in the mid 80s people were catching that as well and drug users were just as likely to contract it by being recklessly careless.

Damn, didn't think about the HIV angle.
I forgot that shit was also coming up during this time.
 
That would be a happy ending if that was to happen but she is going to have some tribulations to deal with her addiction before she even gets to that point.

That's good point and I agree. If they do give Mel a happy ending, I could see it being something a "flash forward" of her overcoming years even decades of addiction.

Although at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they give her a brutal death TBH
 
That's good point and I agree. If they do give Mel a happy ending, I could see it being something a "flash forward" of her overcoming years even decades of addiction.

Although at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if they give her a brutal death TBH

Yeah maybe a fast forward to maybe the late 90s to the mid 2000s where she is some sort of drug prevention advocate giving her testimony. However I agree on your last statement and the crack addicted and hiv angle would be very dark but it will bring to light the reality of how destructive both the drug war and hiv was on the black community and on the black female in particular. I am hoping she don't end up like Wanda because I predict a tragic demise for Wanda because she is so far gone she will easily become a liability that can be used against Franklin.
 
He was compromised though. He could not balance his new racist cop buddy friends and the people he grew up with. Andre and Mel would have been better off if they moved a while ago. He dead and Mel will be a walking dead shell version of her self. She has no protection and no one to look out for her. She is basically a wounded antelope on the savanna and the lions, leopards, hyenas, and hunting dogs are salivating:smh:. Mel's story will most likely end very tragically. Would not be shocked if they even give her character the package on top of her being a crack head. The reason I'm bringing up the house in virginia angle is because in the mid 80s people were catching that as well and drug users were just as likely to contract it by being recklessly careless.

In the early 80s where did working class Blacks move to if they left South Central?
 
I honestly would prefer to see Mel prostituting, contracting diseases, becoming homeless and ultimately OD'ing. Crack wasn't a pretty picture and I want them to stay close to the real life impact. Honestly speaking, the majority of the stories ended that way vs rehab and positive lectures.

I wish that wasn't the case, but since it was, the story should reflect just how ugly that epidemic became IMO. I've heard stories of mothers pimping out their children over the weekend to the dope man, so this is still not as bad as it could be.
 
I honestly would prefer to see Mel prostituting, contracting diseases, becoming homeless and ultimately OD'ing. Crack wasn't a pretty picture and I want them to stay close to the real life impact. Honestly speaking, the majority of the stories ended that way vs rehab and positive lectures.

I wish that wasn't the case, but since it was, the story should reflect just how ugly that epidemic became IMO. I've heard stories of mothers pimping out their children over the weekend to the dope man, so this is still not as bad as it could be.
Jeeeez. That went dark. I don’t know about the od part. Most the crackheads I know is still live and kicking.
But I agree with the prostituting without the diseases
 
I'm thinking no gunpowder residue on his hand... they're gonna figure it out fast that he didn't fire it himself.

Question: When they find Andre (the cop) will they believe that he committed Suicide (possibly because of being suspended and Mel's crack addiction) or will they think he was Murdered (Mel thinks that Franklin killed her father)?

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In the early 80s where did working class Blacks move to if they left South Central?

You have to ask the LA fam. All I am saying is that South Central ain't the only community in greater Los Angeles. Sometimes if a cop has no connection to the community they work in it is best to live elsewhere.
 
What predictions do you all have for the characters?

Teddy ends up working in that basment the rest of his life that he promised to his baby mama.

Mel like fam said ends up sucking/fucking for rock but years down the road becomes a drug council for at risk youth.

Leon get killed, fired or both dealing with Franklin.

Manboy still selling weed to this day.

Gerrome got out the game and started a new tech businesses with his fine ass wife. They have 6 kids.

Avi is presumed dead.

Franklin just now getting out of jail, but his mom secretly hid him a fortune once his got out. She died while he was in prison. His father told him where he could get his money.
 
Yeah maybe a fast forward to maybe the late 90s to the mid 2000s where she is some sort of drug prevention advocate giving her testimony. However I agree on your last statement and the crack addicted and hiv angle would be very dark but it will bring to light the reality of how destructive both the drug war and hiv was on the black community and on the black female in particular. I am hoping she don't end up like Wanda because I predict a tragic demise for Wanda because she is so far gone she will easily become a liability that can be used against Franklin.
Demise.....
Bitch already dead bruh.....
 
The I.E. (Inland Empire) - Riverside, San Bernardino, Moreno Valley, Perris, Rialto, Fontana etc. It's an area that begins about 45 miles east of L.A.


I was curious because it seems like everyone Black lived or lives in South Central. From the outside you never hear of other areas that Blacks lived in. I know we out there but just was curious.
 
Teddy ends up working in that basment the rest of his life that he promised to his baby mama.

Mel like fam said ends up sucking/fucking for rock but years down the road becomes a drug council for at risk youth.

Leon get killed, fired or both dealing with Franklin.

Manboy still selling weed to this day.

Gerrome got out the game and started a new tech businesses with his fine ass wife. They have 6 kids.

Avi is presumed dead.

Franklin just now getting out of jail, but his mom secretly hid him a fortune once his got out. She died while he was in prison. His father told him where he could get his money.
What about Reed and Gus..? The latter probably may go out like Tony Montana at the end of Scarface..

Reed might merk his girl for fucking everything up then get off scot free
 
What about Reed and Gus..? The latter probably may go out like Tony Montana at the end of Scarface..

Reed might merk his girl for fucking everything up then get off scot free

Teddy is Reed.

And Gus gets killed by border patrol on accident. By the partner of the same person he let go years ago.
 
Every couple of years:

Somebody:
(insert hot show title here) is better than The Wire...

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Difference is this a legit competitor. Shows like Power never were. This show has Oscar level writing from a man who has legit classics under his belt and the acting is solid. You dudes act the Wire was untouchable.
 
Snowfall is more on the lines of Power. Although it's better than Power, there is no show without Franklin just like there is no show without Ghost.

Eventually this will be a challenge for the writers because you have to write unrealistic scenarios so that nothing happens to Franklin. That's why Power got so unbelievable.

The Wire was not dependent on just one character. Anybody could get it at anytime just like in reality. That's partly what separates it from the rest.

Power for unbelievable because of terrible writing and acting. The Wire is centered around an area not a character. Everything “classic” from characters to events came from that hood. Not one of the characters from the other aspects are classic besides Clay Davis saying sheeeeeeeeeit. Most Wire fans can’t name 5 of the main characters from season 2 on the docks. Nearly all the main hood characters lived the whole show until they started killing people off in the last season that’s not a coincidence they needed them.

Snowfall seemed to fine with Franklin being in jail and when they were focusing on Lucia and her family.
 
Power for unbelievable because of terrible writing and acting. The Wire is centered around an area not a character. Everything “classic” from characters to events came from that hood. Not one of the characters from the other aspects are classic besides Clay Davis saying sheeeeeeeeeit. Most Wire fans can’t name 5 of the main characters from season 2 on the docks. Nearly all the main hood characters lived the whole show until they started killing people off in the last season that’s not a coincidence they needed them.

Snowfall seemed to fine with Franklin being in jail and when they were focusing on Lucia and her family.
The Wire doesn't have a main character was my point, which makes the writing less constricted.

I really like Snowfall so I'm not trying to argue that the writing is not good, but yall gotta relax trying to say it's better than The Wire.
 
The Wire doesn't have a main character was my point, which makes the writing less constricted.

I really like Snowfall so I'm not trying to argue that the writing is not good, but yall gotta relax trying to say it's better than The Wire.
Not about better but it’s damn sure looking like good competition.
 
Gang Culture
As for the gang culture aspect... may not be something they touch on directly but the element is clearly there in the show. You can pretty much see who are gang member-esk by how they are depicted. Man-boy, Leon, etc... Something that may go unnoticed but since the 80's when it comes to the depiction of Gang's in movies film makers walk a fine line where a lot of times don't directly attribute shit to bloods and crips. They will just allude to it with flags and colors but don't directly say it. Including Boyz in the Hood and Menace.... I get the line you want to tell a story without direct attribution if it is not a real life story you are re-telling. Some people may look at like talking around it but why should it matter if we all know. Yes it does matter and I do appreciate it. It's similar to blocking out gang signs in music videos when they throwing up sets in hand gestures. It seems little but it does matter. How far you go in displaying stuff does make difference but you also don't want to loose the story telling in the art. So it's the fine line they walk up to when they can.

Comparisons to the Wire:
Any show about the hood and drugs automatically gets this Wire comparison thrown out. Yall really need to stop. As soon as Power came out the gate that is what people did. These shows have different premises. The Wire was an examination of several different aspects from touching on the Hood , the drug game, the import of drugs, politics, teenage aspect of the hood and the news industry(focus on disappearing news papers). It actually examines these things and displays stories through that from head to toe.

Power is story about kingpin types and drug game. It's entertainment and serves its purpose. i like it and realize it is what it is... rather entertaining...

Snowfall is depicting a story of what occurred in the past loosely based on someone's life.

These shows are different. But i get writing is writing so comparing one writing to the other can be done but they do have different limits in terms of what they are trying to do so that does affect things.
 
So, I seriously binged almost three seasons in 2 days. It’s an interesting take on a series of crimes that fuhked up black communities until today. Community organizers mark problems by saying they’re pre or post crack, particularly violence among dealers. My favorite character was Claudia. Sorry to see her go.
 
At first I was surprised by all the deaths of those that could have ended it with Franklin and his gang. And even surprised by Fraklin being untouched with the cops and feds. Then I realized how this is a reenactment of actual events. The crack epidemic is going to happen. This is why every time a cop or fed or kingpin gets in the way, they are dealt with.

This is fate. Whether It is Andre, the double agent undercover fed woman Soledad, Reed's girl, the nightclub crazy Cartel boss Rigo, or anybody else. Nobody is stopping this epidemic from happening. Hell even the babydaddy of the woman that was suppose to live in Gustavo's stash house got taken out.
 
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