Joy Ann Reid smears black voters, labels #ADOS & #AMERICANDOS hashtags as bots

[mangobob79]

Except Trump just lifted major sanctions last month

folks re gonna keep playin dumb and keepin that narrative about "liberalism mindset" etc etc ,while conservatives laugh behind our backs and we will end up giving more away to repuglikklans in a move to cut off our our collective nose in effort to spite our face..


yet people cant see why the question of BOTS isnt warranted

 

[Soul On Ice]

so lets ignore the fact that they tried to claim she said shit she didnt say becos some folks wanna find a reason to discredit her? but ur Tariqs & Yvettes can say all types of BS and their BOTS can boost them up?

Did you not see that Breakfast club interview?

 

[mangobob79]

Also, hop on twitter. Bernie cats are still at war and STILL to this day think the nomination was stolen from him thanks to those emails. Bernie or bust is still real on these streets.

I mean I get it, you hate Hilary and she was a shitty candidate, but in a super close election, if the Russian propaganda got 1% of dem voters in MI, WI, and PA, that’s all they needed to do.

folks still blame Hillary so why not but let them tell it BOTS arent real.. and u will se how blackfolk will be roped in again with the #Tangibles202 talk (i dont have a problem with #tangibles2020 i just wanna ask what the meme creator has done to combat the thing they see as problem

 

[Soul On Ice]

Who created that term?

I'm waiting for his response on this lol

 

[mangobob79]

Did you not see that Breakfast club interview?

did u watch the full thing ?,
do u know her stance on black issues ,?
have u ever seen or heard her belittle blackfolks ,?
have u ever know n her not to get in to the lion's den to fight for black folks ?

 

[KingTaharqa]

yet people cant see why the question of BOTS isnt warranted

The "it has to be bots cuz black americans are too stupid to make distinctions" implication isnt gonna help the Democratic party or people against ADOS. If people were accusing me of being condescending and looking down on them, doubling down might not be the best path.

The "blacks are too stupid to think for themselves it has to be outside forces" stuff started with Republicans, now liberals are using it.

I promise you if the Democrats continue to run with the "russian bots" argument they will continue to lose black support. Choice is theirs.

 

[Soul On Ice]

did u watch the full thing ?,
do u know her stance on black issues ,?
have u ever seen or heard her belittle blackfolks ,?
have u ever know n her not to get in to the lion's den to fight for black folks ?

Yes I did.
I know about her.

But I should ignore what she said about "we're all immigrants "

 

[mangobob79]

Who created that term?

I'm waiting for his response on this lol

i will answer u , ive been following this thing for a sec(hence my participation in this thread), theres just alot to digest and remember somedays but be patient i will deliver, i jut dont remember the brother's name right now, he was published in a paper in the 80s i believe that pretty much outlined the whole #ADOS thing and he called it something like #DescendantOfAmericanSlavery or something much similar
Just know ,the ideology & mindset behind the movement isnt new and TONETALK or YVETTE didnt create the movement, theirs is literally a hijack! and an offshoot of the reparations movement condensed into another #justiceClaim movement, nothing more .. i promise i will find his paper

 

[mangobob79]

The "it has to be bots cuz black americans are too stupid to make distinctions" implication isnt gonna help the Democratic party or people against ADOS. If people were accusing me of being condescending and looking down on them, doubling down might not be the best path.

The "blacks are too stupid to think for themselves it has to be outside forces" stuff started with Republicans, now liberals are using it.

I promise you if the Democrats continue to run with the "russian bots" argument they will continue to lose black support. Choice is theirs.

i heard it differently ,its basically saying to watch for trolls that might be amongst those pushing a divisionary narrative by using this movements platform
... now, republicans can continue to use that "democratic planation" line even some black folks use it and we dont see a problem with how condescending and insulting that is?
, its like theyre saying black folks cant think for themselves and dont know whats best for us and theyre trying to shame black folks by using the "plantation" line to get us to vote republicans as if we dont know what republicans have never delivered jack shit and constantly do stuff to sabotage our lives

 

[mangobob79]

Yes I did.
I know about her.

But I should ignore what she said about "we're all immigrants "

i saw the interview too and what i translated was someone taking on a broader issue of "blacks folks in general" due to the fact that "immigration bills dont affect only brown folks it also affects black folks , black folks who r immigrant and not native blacks , hence US (other black folks)
i dont see how folk scan easily throw her away becos they miscomprehended her words! and took it outta context

 

[AllUniverse17]

This is why she ain't got a man!

What is this referring to?

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

What is this referring to?

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and the hard evidence...these folks like Roland...Joy Reid...and Rye are pawns in the game.

 

[hardawayz16]

The "it has to be bots cuz black americans are too stupid to make distinctions" implication isnt gonna help the Democratic party or people against ADOS. If people were accusing me of being condescending and looking down on them, doubling down might not be the best path.

The "blacks are too stupid to think for themselves it has to be outside forces" stuff started with Republicans, now liberals are using it.

I promise you if the Democrats continue to run with the "russian bots" argument they will continue to lose black support. Choice is theirs.

THIS. Totally this. The whole 'we know what's best for you" routine isn't working for younger voters.

And we're too social media/internet savvy to accept the russian bots and trolls smoke screens.

It's going to turn to a war between black political media and the people they say they are speaking for.

 

[AllUniverse17]

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and the hard evidence...these folks like Roland...Joy Reid...and Rye are pawns in the game.

Thanks for the drop.

Im gonna defend Rye. Her message was just articulated poorly.

When she says Black people are immigrants too, she didnt mean ADOS, she was talking about people like me.

In states like Florida and New York for example, theres ALOT of black immigrants who are affected by DACA.

Social media peeps who are pushing the anti immigration narrative dont want to talk about that.

Lets not forget our people in all of this.

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

Thanks for the drop.

Im gonna defend Rye. Her message was just articulated poorly.

When she says Black people are immigrants too, she didnt mean ADOS, she was talking about people like me.

In states like Florida and New York for example, theres ALOT of black immigrants who are affected by DACA.

Social media peeps who are pushing the anti immigration narrative dont want to talk about that.

Lets not forget our people in all of this.

 

[AllUniverse17]

I reject alot of those silly notions.

Dr Claude Anderson said the native blacks have no allies. Really?

We are back to the xenophobia that we been talking about in this thread.

However, i dont want to get the wrong idea here, can you tell me who are those black leaders who talk more about hispanics then blacks?

 

[mangobob79]

Thanks for the drop.

Im gonna defend Rye. Her message was just articulated poorly.

When she says Black people are immigrants too, she didnt mean ADOS, she was talking about people like me.

In states like Florida and New York for example, theres ALOT of black immigrants who are affected by DACA.

Social media peeps who are pushing the anti immigration narrative dont want to talk about that.

Lets not forget our people in all of this.

folks can read a 1000page book and deduce the information enuff to pass a test but cant deduce a simple premise poorly articulated especially being that we all see & know the work Rye has put in

 

[mangobob79]

I reject alot of those silly notions.

Dr Claude Anderson said the native blacks have no allies. Really?

We are back to the xenophobia that we been talking about in this thread.

However, i dont want to get the wrong idea here, can you tell me who are those black leaders who talk more about hispanics then blacks?

Dr Claude doesnt do xenophobia , theres a difference BTW advocating for ur group to making up bs narrative thats nothin short of xenophobia dressed up in "group advocacy"
people wanna twist Dr Claude's words to advance their BS narrative , thats why Yvette& her breakinbrown folks r agents &problematic

 

[mangobob79]

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and the hard evidence...these folks like Roland...Joy Reid...and Rye are pawns in the game.

Yvettes is bein dishonest about Angela , she needs to push her BS xenophobic narrative thru lies & distortions

 

[Soul On Ice]

 

[Mr. Met]

There is an all out war against the Boule.

It’s becoming pretty obvious as to why Angela Rye can’t keep a man. What a bitch.

 

[Joe Money]

i saw the interview too and what i translated was someone taking on a broader issue of "blacks folks in general" due to the fact that "immigration bills dont affect only brown folks it also affects black folks , black folks who r immigrant and not native blacks , hence US (other black folks)
i dont see how folk scan easily throw her away becos they miscomprehended her words! and took it outta context

But the question is "why should we care?" Can you articulate how immigration benefits Black Americans at all?

 

[AllUniverse17]

But the question is "why should we care?" Can you articulate how immigration benefits Black Americans at all?

Blacks immigrating into the US has helped grow the black community here.

The bigger the community, the more power it has. Economically, politically, socially...

 

[mangobob79]

But the question is "why should we care?" Can you articulate how immigration benefits Black Americans at all?

we care becos we are HUMAN and we care becos people of all races & walks of life will emigrate from one place to another due to economic possibilities, that does not exclude Native black americans ,we also care becos alot of these folks are actually native to this continent! and
we can atleast have some compassion for them, I CHOOSE TO im not forcing u to be!
immigration will never end as long as there are economic opportunities for the immigrants! shall we tell black americans not to seek economic opportunities in foreign lands when the opportunities appear ? and if a civil war broke out her in america and our black family can escape to mexico or canada shall we tell them not to?

and we care becos we need each other to grow ,u will be amiss if u think native black america can go it alone ,then just be upfront and state that u dont want no other black folks to come into america,
the jews dont mind holding up jews from europe to come here or in israel, before paul ryan leaves the government he applied for 25,000 allowances for visa for Irish folks while championing MAGA and zero immigration policy from black diaspora or brown folks from south america..

just be upfront and say
YOU DONT WANT OTHER BLACK FOLKS AROUND, BECOS U SEE "SOME" OF THEM MAKIN PROGRESS(even if u dont know the sacrifices they go thru) AND U FEEL THOSE SUCCESSES SHOULD BE URS ALONE!!
THEN U SHOULDNT HAVE A PROBLEM IF ONE DAY THE BLACK DIASPORA ASKS BLACK AMERICAN EXPATRIATES & BLACK AMERICAN INVESTORS & VENTURE CAPITALISTS TO LEAVE & ALSO VACATE THOSE DIASPORA LANDS

 

[Joe Money]

Blacks immigrating into the US has helped grow the black community here.

The bigger the community, the more power it has. Economically, politically, socially...

But the communities are separate. The Black American/DoS community is separate from the Nigerian, Jamaican, Ethiopian, etc. The average net worth of Black American households in L.A. is $4,000. For Nigerians, it is $100,00. These are the types of points that Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell are driving homes. We're not members of the same community.

we care becos we are HUMAN and we care becos people of all races & walks of life will emigrate from one place to another due to economic possibilities, that does not exclude Native black americans ,we also care becos alot of these folks are actually native to this continent! and
we can atleast have some compassion for them, I CHOOSE TO im not forcing u to be!
immigration will never end as long as there are economic opportunities for the immigrants! shall we tell black americans not to seek economic opportunities in foreign lands when the opportunities appear ? and if a civil war broke out her in america and our black family can escape to mexico or canada shall we tell them not to?

and we care becos we need each other to grow ,u will be amiss if u think native black america can go it alone ,then just be upfront and state that u dont want no other black folks to come into america,
the jews dont mind holding up jews from europe to come here or in israel, before paul ryan leaves the government he applied for 25,000 allowances for visa for Irish folks while championing MAGA and zero immigration policy from black diaspora or brown folks from south america..

just be upfront and say
YOU DONT WANT OTHER BLACK FOLKS AROUND, BECOS U SEE "SOME" OF THEM MAKIN PROGRESS(even if u dont know the sacrifices they go thru) AND U FEEL THOSE SUCCESSES SHOULD BE URS ALONE!!
THEN U SHOULDNT HAVE A PROBLEM IF ONE DAY THE BLACK DIASPORA ASKS BLACK AMERICAN EXPATRIATES & BLACK AMERICAN INVESTORS TO LEAVE & ALSO VACATE THOSE DIASPORA LANDS

You still haven't answered the question. What tangible or empirical evidence can you show that demonstrates how immigration in general, and African or West Indian immigration specifically, benefits Black Americans?

 

[AllUniverse17]

But the communities are separate. The Black American/DoS community is separate from the Nigerian, Jamaican, Ethiopian, etc. The average net worth of Black American households in L.A. is $4,000. For Nigerians, it is $100,00. These are the types of points that Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell are driving homes. We're not members of the same community.

You just named one city, one group and are using a metric that doesnt show a different community.

It could just be that all the Nigerians who moved to LA did so BECAUSE they were already financially stable. It doesnt mean much nation wide.

Jamaicans and Haitians are the two countries the most black immigrants in the US. They overwhelmingly settled in ADOS communities in the North East and the South East. Blended in with them (same neighborhoods, same schools, same churches...). Now you cant tell the kids apart. They came in looking for opportunities, not already rich. There is a distinction and always will be but now it is all a part of the same community.

 

[mangobob79]

The average net worth of Black American households in L.A. is $4,000. For Nigerians, it is $100,00.

ive heard that number bandied around on Tonetalks & Yvette, id like to know where they get that number from and how they break it down to that,
also how the average NIGERIAN AMERICAN community is able to acquire that much ( $100k) while Native Black American family averages $4k .
thanks

 

[mangobob79]

You still haven't answered the question. What tangible or empirical evidence can you show that demonstrates how immigration in general, and African or West Indian immigration specifically, benefits Black Americans?

sorry, not ignoring ur question. im tryna juggle a few points at once, ok
BENEFITS?
im not sure but
they live in the Native black american communities , they spend their income there, they contribute to the overall community just like everyone elses immigrant community contributes to theirs, they rent & buy houses , they support local businesses , send their kids to school, they work and pay taxes ,

i mean im not sure ,are they supposed to specifically "CONTRIBUTE " something specially & BENEFICIAL & SPECIFICALLY to Native Black americans ,?
and im not averse to that , i just like to know what u might want them to CONTRIBUTE as "immigrants" black diaspora or should it only be NIGERIANS since they seem to be the most INCOME.

ok also my take is this ,,,if u say immigration doesnt benefit native black americans ,
(i can see in instances where it might be a strain somewhat but that is universal, not exclusive to native black americans )
so my ULTIMATE QUESTION IS : what exactly would they have to do to specifically BENEFIT native black americans ?

 

[gene cisco]

Blacks immigrating into the US has helped grow the black community here.

The bigger the community, the more power it has. Economically, politically, socially...

Ain't that some shit? When I say the unchecked Hispanic immigration has led to them passing us by economically, politically, and socially, it's xenophobia(swear that word only surfaced on BGOL after 2016 and Trump). It's fox news talking points. It's "They only taking jobs Americans don't want"! Folks just gloss over the economic, political, and social parts. Now they brought up when it comes to a demographic whose immigration pales in comparison to Hispanics. Ain't that a bitch.

But the communities are separate. The Black American/DoS community is separate from the Nigerian, Jamaican, Ethiopian, etc. The average net worth of Black American households in L.A. is $4,000. For Nigerians, it is $100,00. These are the types of points that Antonio Moore and Yvette Carnell are driving homes. We're not members of the same community.



You still haven't answered the question. What tangible or empirical evidence can you show that demonstrates how immigration in general, and African or West Indian immigration specifically, benefits Black Americans?

Even if it does help, other groups such as Hispanics and Asians have much, much better benefits. Asians and Hispanics fucking dominate immigration. Folks ain't going to show how America's immigration policy benefits black Americans because it can't be done.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Black Americans are some of the most passive inclusive low self esteem having human beings on Earth. We let anybody in. The notion that we will turn to Xenophobes and start dragging West Indians and Africans into the middle of the streets is laughable. If someone is speaking on certain issues that affect black americans but aint ADOS, we want to know that.

 

[SpiritualPorn]

I’ve noticed that a lot of ugly women are going out of their way to throw a wrench in Black progress
I honestly they believe that they have contempt for Black society because they were never desirable
Fuck that bitch

Truth be told, I agree with this.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Exactly would they have to do to specifically BENEFIT native black americans ?

Plug us into business opportunities in the islands and Kemet. Share some of those resources in yall homeland. Make it reciprocal.

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

Plug us into business opportunities in the islands and Kemet. Share some of those resources in yall homeland. Make it reciprocal.

Agreed...and I'll go a step further

 

[mangobob79]

Agreed...and I'll go a step further

did u even listen to Yvettes talkin in this video ? she completely shits on Pan-afrikanism ,she tries to belittle the efforts of pan-afrikanism which has benefited ALL BLACK PEOPLE for decades,
If thats ur starting point without even nuance or balance then its obvious what her & her ilk's agenda is .. but carry on

PA-AFRIKANIM & the carribeans gave us Garvey which gave us Malcom X , stokely carmichael
gave us Shirley Chisholm, gave us kwame nkrumah, gave us mandela, gave us independence drive thru out the motherland, i can go on for 10 pages n its till building bridges and still creating opportunities for many BLACK people today,
just say u dont know n would like to research it instead of listening to the misery merchant & xenophobic lesbian of cac coochie

 

[mangobob79]

Plug us into business opportunities in the islands and Kemet. Share some of those resources in yall homeland. Make it reciprocal.

is there a law or movement that u know that has banned native black americans from being plugged into any diasporic homeland in the continent or the islands?
is there an immigration policies or airplanes companies that stop native black americans from travelling to and exploring economic opportunities in foreign black diaspora lands?


i mean , i believe reciprocity and uhuru and pan-afrikan economic power push should benefit ALL black people to collectively raise our stock but if we arent takin advantage of the opportunities n doors pan-afrikanist mindset & outlook has opened , who do we blame for that? can we make a greater effort to make more folks aware , ? yes ! but to act like these things dont exist is being dishonest and it seems what im hearing is "we want a special designation that will benefit only us"