Your only reply to this conversation was that Joy Reid was ugly and undesirable.
....but I'm the one that's simple minded.
Ok.
Joy Ann Reid smears black voters, labels #ADOS & #AMERICANDOS hashtags as bots
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Your only reply to this conversation was that Joy Reid was ugly and undesirable.
....but I'm the one that's simple minded.
Ok.
Folks on the left going for censorship big time. It's crazy. It's getting worse and worse. Unfortunately, the party has an army of black shills and they run social media. So look for folks going against the narrative to get banned.
What's crazy is that if someone on the right makes the observations you made and speaks on it, the shills will only be more empowered. They'll say you're using FOX news talking points. They are good for that.
I've taken to avoiding political sites outside of BGOL, but if this shit keeps going this way, I can see having to avoid political threads on here.
The shill mobs can have their political echo chamber.
I initially typed up a long reply
Your only reply to this conversation was that Joy Reid was ugly and undesirable.
....but I'm the one that's simple minded.
Ok.
Explaining how she only has her slot b/c she will play ball
How shes intentially throwing a wrench in a movement that is for Black people's betterment
I also had explained how you were too dumb to understand my point. Somehow her intelligence negated a point that's well known in Black intellecual circles. Women with an axe to grind, playing interference.
But then I realized how it would all be for not, as you have the IQ of a chicken tender.
You contribute nothing to Black society, or Black progress. You're just a roadblock.
It's all by design. Politicians on both sides all use the same play books. I learned this doing union politics. Everybody slings mud, everybody goes low, everybody throws dirt, everybody pays off people, everybody uses proxies, everybody uses shills and if push comes to shove everybody uses force. The constituents are all pawns.Folks on the left going for censorship big time. It's crazy. It's getting worse and worse. Unfortunately, the party has an army of black shills and they run social media. So look for folks going against the narrative to get banned.
What's crazy is that if someone on the right makes the observations you made and speaks on it, the shills will only be more empowered. They'll say you're using FOX news talking points. They are good for that.
I've taken to avoiding political sites outside of BGOL, but if this shit keeps going this way, I can see having to avoid political threads on here.
Joy Reid never said or commented on it.
So, you're still a black woman hater or you're
a crackkka or your just not too bright.
You're probably just all three but I'm done here.
More rambling from a simple mind
Do our people a favor and off yourself
..... Ye shall know them by their fruits....
..... 2cents
this ^^^ EXACTLY !! But Folks wanna act dumb, but its okay,...... we'll sit & watch this thing unravel...
i know truth when i see it & i know propaganda based on xenophobic bs when i see it
& this Yvette's shit is xenophobic
there's so many sides to the disinformation they pass around that lends me to believe the movement isnt really about Black empowerment (pan-afrikanism) !!
..im a Pan-Afrikanist and i work for ALL black people , anything that seeks to belittle anypart of the body aint what im with..
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exactly !!^ this ...im Just gonna leave this here.. but the signs r clear
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Alot of people who consider themselves ADOS dont fuck with or know who Yvette Carnell is. I dont watch her show and am not too familiar with Tone Talks. The distinction is beyond them. They dont own it And Ill say it again, telling black americans to ignore their ancestors or journey over "xenophobia" concerns is a slippery slope. Especially if we're not going to tell our bros from the Carribean and Africa to stop repping their culture and see themselves only as Black Americans now.
Very fair comment...no one should be telling Black Americans to ignore their ancestors or journey....I havent seen any evidence of anyone doing that but anything is possible...recognizing the differences between us is not a diss to any one group as we dont all have to be the same....we just gotta recognize that there is one general Black fight with different sub plots for each group depending on the specific situation....but it's still one general fight against White supremacy and economic oppression
Holy shit. I agree with you. I need an aspirin
Bruh!! but no one is telling black americans to ignore their ancestors or journey...
can u show me the examples of these claims of groups of folks telling black americans to ignore their ancestors or journey?
thats not the narrative the folks in the ADOS movement r pushing ,
ill ask u to do a simple search & research it or atleast visit yvettes & ToneTalks pages (also becos ive listened to watched tons of her videos only becos i wished to form an educated opinion on her BREAKINGBROWN group so i can be informed about her)
(also becos lately, they've been the 2 figures alot of folks who r uninformed about the the origin of ADOS movement which actually started years ago & Yvette co-opted it with her BREAKING BROWN movement & wants to take credit for the ideas formulated by other folks who arent as know as them,
Yvette & Tonetalk hijacked a legitimate ideology & using is as basis for what comes across as xenophobic rebranding and just go to her YT page & read the comments there to see all the xenophobic shit she pushes alongside allowing so much filth & vitriol to be aimed at foreign blacks,
the diaspora as always supported african americans ADOS and always showed them love! so i dont get where this sentiment is coming from
( makes u wonder when folks where sayin Russian bots infiltrated african american circles during the election cycle and that what led me to believe the part where JOY Reid's show talked about possible BOTs also infiltrating the ADOS conversation space, if anythin it should be viewed a sJOY shows sending a warnin for folks to watch out for divisive talks and xenophobic accounts whose main objective is to cause division & hatred..but folks re not peeping game, we sometimes too stuck in our grounds to see the long game and only realize after the the destruction ... bloods-crips /east-west coast/ hutus-tutsi/ethiopian-eritrean/ it goes on & on
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thats all im sayin, becos once again im asking folks to show me proof of any groups of blacks telling Black Americans to ignore their ancestors or journey, this is a narrative Yvette & Tonetalks ADOS movement want to push so as to legitimize their bs, its like trump tryin to legitimate his wall by tweeting about muslim prayer rugs at the border and FOX news 24hr coverage anytime a foreigner from south america or black immigrant commits a crime its on FOX news nonstop for days while foreign cacs kill & rob unnoticed, all for a narrative to sell his border wall EMERGENCY
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IN EFFECT SHE HAS BEEN TELLIN THEM TO STOP REPPING THEIR ROOTS & CULTURE
becos thats actually one of the BS sticking points Yvettes breakingbrown has been on about,
one second shes mad becos shes saying in essence
if foreignBlacks wanna be here in USA they should be here & be a part of the community n not hold on to their roots ( as in not REPPING ur roots separately ,and they should in effect ASSIMILATE & NOT HOLD ON TO THEIR ROOTS BECOS SOMEHOW THAT MEANS THEY WANT TO BE SEPARATIST & LOOK DOWN UPON NATIVE BLACKS IN A WAY ,BECOS IF URE HERE IN AMERICA THEN UR VIEW SHOULD BE TO ASSIMILATE TO BEING AMERICAN COMPLETELY AND NOT HOLD ON TO UR PARENT'S COUNTRIES OR ROOTS )
and in other arguments shes claiming she wants ForeignBlacks to REP THEIR ROOTS & NOT TAKE PART IN NATIVE BLACK AMERICAN LIFE BECOS THAT WOULD BE "ERASURE" in effect hence they should always rep their FOREGN-NESS!
so on one hand she wants them to REP only their foreign roots so folks dont mistake them for being native blacks as that would be "ERASURE" (so in effect she want them to be counted only as foreign black = SEPARATE)
and in other hand she wants them to not REP their foreign roots becos she sees that has been SEPARATIST and not wantin to ASSIMILATE & identify with nativeBlack culture and life
SO WHICH IS IT ?..
im not sure if im making my self clear but i hope u can understand my angle ..
Fam, I havent seen anyone do that.
Your issues seem to be with Yvette. Thats a seperate issue. Again Yvette and people who are ADOS arent mutually exclusive. I dont follow her. And my point about dismissing ancestors comes from some folks online berating black americans from distinguishing themselves from immigrants. And playing dumb about how that could be distinguished.
bruh, all i said was checkYvette out & tonetalks and see how theye been pushed as the defacto leaders of this CURRENT ADOS movement , and yes Yvette & ADOS aint mutually exclusive but the ones makin the most noise are her folks at BREAKINGBROWN and how theyve been coopting & claiming credit for a movemnt and ideology they didnt create but hijacked and the danger i see is they gonna dirty up the ideology with their xenophobia and destroy a legitimate movement.
Nothing wrong with Black Americans making a distinction from other Black groups in the diaspora.
Nothing wrong with Black Americans recognizing how other groups have benefited from our work here in the U.S.
Nothing wrong with Black Americans recognizing how the machine has used other groups to try and replace us because they fear reprisal from Black Americans and know those immigrants will not seek claim because they do not share the same background as Black Americans.
We may still all find solidarity from being Black despite our different geographical histories.
Respect to the black immigrants who come here and succeed through hard work.
However, that doesn't mean you aren't or can't be a cog in the wheel of the machine that oppresses Black Americans.
Now other immigrant groups may not care about the history of Black Americans and choose to only focus on your group and that's fine that's your prerogative. And in turn Black Americans do not have to care about your history as well.
America has long since tried to cover up, dismiss, deny, overlook, overshadow and outright omit, Black American claims to this country and it will use anything, anyone, anybody, any group to continue to do so. Whether that group knows it or not or even cares is a different story.
Now while I don't think any of these things will stop Blacks in the diaspora from finding solidarity, because despite our differences in geographical history we do share many similarities. But those relationships can only deepen if we are willing to learn more about each other.
But while your in America addressing any ethnic groups who immigrate here will always begin with slavery as a starting point because your experience in this country are grounded on the history of racism in THIS country and that begins with Black Americans.
Nothing wrong with Black Americans recognizing how other groups have benefited from our work here in the U.S.
Nothing wrong with Black Americans recognizing how the machine has used other groups to try and replace us because they fear reprisal from Black Americans and know those immigrants will not seek claim because they do not share the same background as Black Americans.
We may still all find solidarity from being Black despite our different geographical histories.
Respect to the black immigrants who come here and succeed through hard work.
However, that doesn't mean you aren't or can't be a cog in the wheel of the machine that oppresses Black Americans.
Now other immigrant groups may not care about the history of Black Americans and choose to only focus on your group and that's fine that's your prerogative. And in turn Black Americans do not have to care about your history as well.
America has long since tried to cover up, dismiss, deny, overlook, overshadow and outright omit, Black American claims to this country and it will use anything, anyone, anybody, any group to continue to do so. Whether that group knows it or not or even cares is a different story.
Now while I don't think any of these things will stop Blacks in the diaspora from finding solidarity, because despite our differences in geographical history we do share many similarities. But those relationships can only deepen if we are willing to learn more about each other.
But while your in America addressing any ethnic groups who immigrate here will always begin with slavery as a starting point because your experience in this country are grounded on the history of racism in THIS country and that begins with Black Americans.
For everyone that was defending the OP,
he never set foot in here to defend
himself. ...what does that tell you?
Some of you need wake up from the
bullshit that is trying to divide us.
he never set foot in here to defend
himself. ...what does that tell you?
Some of you need wake up from the
bullshit that is trying to divide us.
Wtf? We agree again.
Stated plainly without the xenophobia.. how is that so hard
So ToneTalks is claiming #CREATOR status now? ....mkay
Any movement that separates black people from other black people is dumb. Ya'll don't see this is the same program they did everywhere in the world they colonized. When they start to lose power they pit the minorities against each other to maintain their rule for just a little while longer. All the genocide in Africa the issues in India throughout south America white people have been pitting people of color against each other in order to weaken our collective ability. I'm not playing that game. Any divisive movement is counterproductive. The idea that immigrants are some how powerful enough to assist in our oppression is nonsensical.
Problem is the Black Community can't punish shills, turn-coats, and coons whether they be on the right - or the leftFolks on the left going for censorship big time. It's crazy. It's getting worse and worse. Unfortunately, the party has an army of black shills and they run social media. So look for folks going against the narrative to get banned.
What's crazy is that if someone on the right makes the observations you made and speaks on it, the shills will only be more empowered. They'll say you're using FOX news talking points. They are good for that.
I've taken to avoiding political sites outside of BGOL, but if this shit keeps going this way, I can see having to avoid political threads on here.
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Who created that term?
She so beautiful.
However the only thing I want to hear from her is "did you pull out daddy?"
In which I'll say "I buried my seed in you, the same way my people were deep on a slave ship"
so lets ignore the fact that they tried to claim she said shit she didnt say becos some folks wanna find a reason to discredit her? but ur Tariqs & Yvettes can say all types of BS and their BOTS can boost them up?
im watching this thing slowly implode and black folks once again gonna be left with egg on their faces once it blows over & people begin to really see this movement for what it is...
the idea behind a reparative justice claim demand isnt wrong (its not a new idea either)
but what is the idea behind creating a false narrative as a prerequisite to getting ur demands met by demonizing and denigrating foreign black folks like they are some kinda enemy (tryin to steal food and take whats urs by virtue of their presence here )that has to be stopped
Some democrat apologists wish to concentrate onRussia. How many times big homie visit Wisconsin? Also, Hillary has been hated by WHITE PEOPLE since the fucking 90s. Only demographic in this country that consider the Clintons sacred is the black vote -- except 2008.
This Russia shit has now turned into a blanket that SOME democrats wish to throw over a pile of incompetence that exists with the party. Hillary ran a shit campaign and was second in history only to Trump in being disliked AND black people have every fucking right to call out democrats.
Sadly, we will see democrat shills countering with this
Some have OBJECTIVELY addressed Russian interference.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-it-made-a-difference/?utm_term=.ef7f1d131d08
But there are reasons to be skeptical of the claim that Russia swung the election for Trump. First, Russian information warriors produced far less fake news and polarizing rhetoric than did domestic and other international sources. Russia simply added to the already deafening cacophony of inflammatory rhetoric and misinformation.
Second, the hacked emails had little obvious impact. The first batch of Democratic National Committee emails was released in July 2016, amid the two party conventions — after which Clinton’s lead increased. Similarly, after WikiLeaks released John Podesta’s emails in October, Clinton’s support increased, apparently in response to such other campaign events as the release of the “Access Hollywood” tape. Trust in Clinton remained more or less the same throughout October — not what we’d expect to see if the emails had made a difference.
Of course, Russia may still have influenced the outcome. As FiveThirtyEight’s Harry Enten notes, “the drip, drip, drip” of these email releases “makes it all but impossible to measure their effect precisely.” And Trump won by such a thin margin that even a small Russian impact could have tipped the election.
But there is far stronger evidence that other factors were more critical. For instance, public opinion shifted suddenly after Oct. 28, when FBI Director James B. Comey announced that he was reopening an investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state. And the closeness of the election mostly resulted from polarization between Democrats and Republicans that long predates Russian President Vladimir Putin or the rise of Trump.
It’s true that Russia has been increasingly trying to meddle in Western elections. But it hasn’t gotten much for its efforts — and these efforts have often backfired. For instance, the U.S. uproar about Russian interference has almost certainly made it less likely that the United States will lift its sanctions. Thus, on balance, Putin’s expansion of Russian interference may not be in Russia’s interests.
Except Trump just lifted major sanctions last month
Some democrat apologists wish to concentrate on
This Russia shit has now turned into a blanket that SOME democrats wish to throw over a pile of incompetence that exists with the party. Hillary ran a shit campaign and was second in history only to Trump in being disliked AND black people have every fucking right to call out democrats.
Sadly, we will see democrat shills countering with this
Some have OBJECTIVELY addressed Russian interference.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-it-made-a-difference/?utm_term=.ef7f1d131d08
But there are reasons to be skeptical of the claim that Russia swung the election for Trump. First, Russian information warriors produced far less fake news and polarizing rhetoric than did domestic and other international sources. Russia simply added to the already deafening cacophony of inflammatory rhetoric and misinformation.
Second, the hacked emails had little obvious impact. The first batch of Democratic National Committee emails was released in July 2016, amid the two party conventions — after which Clinton’s lead increased. Similarly, after WikiLeaks released John Podesta’s emails in October, Clinton’s support increased, apparently in response to such other campaign events as the release of the “Access Hollywood” tape. Trust in Clinton remained more or less the same throughout October — not what we’d expect to see if the emails had made a difference.
Of course, Russia may still have influenced the outcome. As FiveThirtyEight’s Harry Enten notes, “the drip, drip, drip” of these email releases “makes it all but impossible to measure their effect precisely.” And Trump won by such a thin margin that even a small Russian impact could have tipped the election.
But there is far stronger evidence that other factors were more critical. For instance, public opinion shifted suddenly after Oct. 28, when FBI Director James B. Comey announced that he was reopening an investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state. And the closeness of the election mostly resulted from polarization between Democrats and Republicans that long predates Russian President Vladimir Putin or the rise of Trump.
It’s true that Russia has been increasingly trying to meddle in Western elections. But it hasn’t gotten much for its efforts — and these efforts have often backfired. For instance, the U.S. uproar about Russian interference has almost certainly made it less likely that the United States will lift its sanctions. Thus, on balance, Putin’s expansion of Russian interference may not be in Russia’s interests.
Also, hop on twitter. Bernie cats are still at war and STILL to this day think the nomination was stolen from him thanks to those emails. Bernie or bust is still real on these streets.
I mean I get it, you hate Hilary and she was a shitty candidate, but in a super close election, if the Russian propaganda got 1% of dem voters in MI, WI, and PA, that’s all they needed to do.
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